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"Love love love it! Canes are my current favourite but we enjoy everything from spanking to belts to punches " Punches | |||
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"Love love love it! Canes are my current favourite but we enjoy everything from spanking to belts to punches Punches " yes punches well placed and weighted punches to the buttocks can be very arousing as part of impact play .just obtained a nice draggon tail and some other hitty kit cant wait ho get out to a club to try them out | |||
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"It's something I'd like to explore some more but I'm worried this thread is about to be closed because Fab didn't like it when I asked the same before " *packs hitty things* | |||
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"Any real fans of it on here. " Fuck yeah! | |||
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"It's something I'd like to explore some more but I'm worried this thread is about to be closed because Fab didn't like it when I asked the same before *packs hitty things* " I was more thinking of being the hit-er than the hit-ee | |||
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"Thuddy impact over stingy, and I love a bit of UV." UV? Ultra Violence? | |||
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"Thuddy impact over stingy, and I love a bit of UV. UV? Ultra Violence? " Ultra violet | |||
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"Thuddy impact over stingy, and I love a bit of UV. UV? Ultra Violence? Ultra violet " Think they were right the first time, UV is ultra violence | |||
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"Thuddy impact over stingy, and I love a bit of UV. UV? Ultra Violence? Ultra violet Think they were right the first time, UV is ultra violence " Oh ok sorry x | |||
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"Any real fans of it on here. " Yes | |||
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"I loved a weight flogger. Wasn’t keen on canes. " Jenny does not like the canes either. | |||
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"Any real fans of it on here. Yes " You should have said...you kept that quiet | |||
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"Any real fans of it on here. Yes You should have said...you kept that quiet " Liar, liar pants on fire | |||
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"Love it, my favourite is bare hand " Even when it is done hard enough to bruises the hand | |||
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"Huge fan here, both ways. " Exploring giving and receiving is a great and intense way of understanding and enjoying the dynamic even more deeply. | |||
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"How many like to have marks left? Do you see them as lovely reminders of a great time ....do they feel intimate to you?" I do love to see bruises I've either left or been given. I do find biting gives better results on me though and even those aren't visible for very long at all. I did once bruise a woman's arse so badly that I had to carry her back to her husband, it had gone black as soon as it was all done and it bruised my hand as well | |||
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"Huge fan here, both ways. Exploring giving and receiving is a great and intense way of understanding and enjoying the dynamic even more deeply." Agreed and seeing someone else enjoy as much as you do when you understand the feelings and sensations is a huge turn on. | |||
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"Huge fan here, both ways. Exploring giving and receiving is a great and intense way of understanding and enjoying the dynamic even more deeply. Agreed and seeing someone else enjoy as much as you do when you understand the feelings and sensations is a huge turn on. " That’s so true. Lady and I are both naturally dominant but have loved handing over control to each other. Truly amazing! | |||
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"How many like to have marks left? Do you see them as lovely reminders of a great time ....do they feel intimate to you?" Love the marks and the sting that serve as reminders beyond the actual session. | |||
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"How many like to have marks left? Do you see them as lovely reminders of a great time ....do they feel intimate to you? Love the marks and the sting that serve as reminders beyond the actual session. " Being able to press and poke them for days afterwards brings little moments of pure bliss at the memory of how it was done | |||
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"How many like to have marks left? Do you see them as lovely reminders of a great time ....do they feel intimate to you?" No I never had any marks left on me | |||
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"How many like to have marks left? Do you see them as lovely reminders of a great time ....do they feel intimate to you?" Yes to all of the above. I love some bruises and welts, lovely reminders and if there's some soreness for a few days that's a nice reminder too. I like leaving marks as well. | |||
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"It's something I'd like to explore some more but I'm worried this thread is about to be closed because Fab didn't like it when I asked the same before *packs hitty things* I was more thinking of being the hit-er than the hit-ee " | |||
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"It's something I'd like to explore some more but I'm worried this thread is about to be closed because Fab didn't like it when I asked the same before " As a veteran of disappearing bdsm Fab threads, the threads tend to get pulled when the conversation on impact strays into criminal activity. Remembering that the law in this country does not permit the infliction of more than trivial harm through SM. Some mods who are not experienced in kink get twitchy on anything that may constitute physical harm (whether consensual or not). SM threads are in the laps of the Mods. | |||
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"It's something I'd like to explore some more but I'm worried this thread is about to be closed because Fab didn't like it when I asked the same before As a veteran of disappearing bdsm Fab threads, the threads tend to get pulled when the conversation on impact strays into criminal activity. Remembering that the law in this country does not permit the infliction of more than trivial harm through SM. Some mods who are not experienced in kink get twitchy on anything that may constitute physical harm (whether consensual or not). SM threads are in the laps of the Mods." Which is somewhat understandable as not everyone 'gets' BDSM. And I suppose mods don't always have time to consult each other when one isn't sure what to do, to or isn't sure if a post crossed the line. In theory if we limit talk of "harm" to bruises and marks which are gone within a few days we ought to be fine. The most strict gvt rules have been lifted regarding what they considered dangerous. And we're all better off if we're able to openly discuss the pleasures and Indeed risks of things like impact play. | |||
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"It's something I'd like to explore some more but I'm worried this thread is about to be closed because Fab didn't like it when I asked the same before As a veteran of disappearing bdsm Fab threads, the threads tend to get pulled when the conversation on impact strays into criminal activity. Remembering that the law in this country does not permit the infliction of more than trivial harm through SM. Some mods who are not experienced in kink get twitchy on anything that may constitute physical harm (whether consensual or not). SM threads are in the laps of the Mods. Which is somewhat understandable as not everyone 'gets' BDSM. And I suppose mods don't always have time to consult each other when one isn't sure what to do, to or isn't sure if a post crossed the line. In theory if we limit talk of "harm" to bruises and marks which are gone within a few days we ought to be fine. The most strict gvt rules have been lifted regarding what they considered dangerous. And we're all better off if we're able to openly discuss the pleasures and Indeed risks of things like impact play." | |||
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"In theory if we limit talk of "harm" to bruises and marks which are gone within a few days we ought to be fine. The most strict gvt rules have been lifted regarding what they considered dangerous" As far as I am aware, and I am no legal scholar, the changes you mention are limited to the publication/possession of pornography and are not actually linked to the relaxing of the law around BDSM activities themselves. The Audiovisual Media Services Regulations 2014 introduced a list of banned activities. In 2019 that list was removed and replaced with a series of tests. When it comes to the law you still need to look at the Spanner case and its resulting legal challenges culminating in the Lords case R v Brown which has yet to be overturned. The prevailing opinion is that “SM activity is an illegal assault if it results in marks or injuries which are more than transient and trifling”. But I would love to see an overturn of the law or a legal challenge in court. | |||
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"In theory if we limit talk of "harm" to bruises and marks which are gone within a few days we ought to be fine. The most strict gvt rules have been lifted regarding what they considered dangerous As far as I am aware, and I am no legal scholar, the changes you mention are limited to the publication/possession of pornography and are not actually linked to the relaxing of the law around BDSM activities themselves. The Audiovisual Media Services Regulations 2014 introduced a list of banned activities. In 2019 that list was removed and replaced with a series of tests. When it comes to the law you still need to look at the Spanner case and its resulting legal challenges culminating in the Lords case R v Brown which has yet to be overturned. The prevailing opinion is that “SM activity is an illegal assault if it results in marks or injuries which are more than transient and trifling”. But I would love to see an overturn of the law or a legal challenge in court." I would agree with you apart from one qualification and one concern. The qualification is that there is a line of crown court cases where judges that do not understand BDSM have accepted BDSM as an excuse to severe harm usually where there is an existing relationship. So although the Spanner case is still the prevailing law being a House of Lords case (although a 3/2) decision there is confusion. I have a concern in regard to overturning Spanner and have this debate with friends. These friends similar to me are of the view that being into SM is a personal characteristic. However they feel it should be a protected characteristic such as LGBTQ. The line of cases where BDSM was allowed as an excuse in my lay view were decided wrongly. The defendants were clearly clever psychopaths who should have been jailed or fuckwits that did SM when under the influence and deserve to be jailed for the safety of others. Although Spanner does not stop these horrific events occurring it does remove an excuse that the judiciary gets wrong. This is because consent alone to doing BDSM should not be an excuse. There should also be a requirement to demonstrate safe practices were used and the defendant knew the difference from harm that is life changing and harm that is not. As a dominatrix is reputed to have said" Hurt you, yes; harm you, no" | |||
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"I would agree with you apart from one qualification and one concern. The qualification is that there is a line of crown court cases where judges that do not understand BDSM have accepted BDSM as an excuse to severe harm usually where there is an existing relationship. So although the Spanner case is still the prevailing law being a House of Lords case (although a 3/2) decision there is confusion. I have a concern in regard to overturning Spanner and have this debate with friends. These friends similar to me are of the view that being into SM is a personal characteristic. However they feel it should be a protected characteristic such as LGBTQ. The line of cases where BDSM was allowed as an excuse in my lay view were decided wrongly. The defendants were clearly clever psychopaths who should have been jailed or fuckwits that did SM when under the influence and deserve to be jailed for the safety of others. Although Spanner does not stop these horrific events occurring it does remove an excuse that the judiciary gets wrong. This is because consent alone to doing BDSM should not be an excuse. There should also be a requirement to demonstrate safe practices were used and the defendant knew the difference from harm that is life changing and harm that is not." I agree that some horrific miscarriages of justice have taken place. “We cant consent to this” has some frightening statistics on the conviction rates associated with murders where sex games gone wrong is used in the defence. Hopefully the Domestic Abuse bill 2019-2021 will help with this, although it also poses a risk to BDSM practitioners that fall out with each other. Behaviour is “abusive” if it consists of any of the following— (a) physical or sexual abuse; (b) violent or threatening behaviour; (c) controlling or coercive behaviour; (d) economic abuse (see subsection (4)); (e) psychological, emotional or other abuse; It will take a while before we start to see some common sense approaches to the law and BDSM. As for being able to demonstrate that safe practises were used, that would be impossible to police. In much the same way it is impossible for an external agency to prevent those infected with viruses infecting others, all you can do is investigate after the fact and prove intent to harm. This is where PRICK comes into it for me. You need to take personal responsibility for your own health and wellbeing. | |||
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"I would agree with you apart from one qualification and one concern. The qualification is that there is a line of crown court cases where judges that do not understand BDSM have accepted BDSM as an excuse to severe harm usually where there is an existing relationship. So although the Spanner case is still the prevailing law being a House of Lords case (although a 3/2) decision there is confusion. I have a concern in regard to overturning Spanner and have this debate with friends. These friends similar to me are of the view that being into SM is a personal characteristic. However they feel it should be a protected characteristic such as LGBTQ. The line of cases where BDSM was allowed as an excuse in my lay view were decided wrongly. The defendants were clearly clever psychopaths who should have been jailed or fuckwits that did SM when under the influence and deserve to be jailed for the safety of others. Although Spanner does not stop these horrific events occurring it does remove an excuse that the judiciary gets wrong. This is because consent alone to doing BDSM should not be an excuse. There should also be a requirement to demonstrate safe practices were used and the defendant knew the difference from harm that is life changing and harm that is not. I agree that some horrific miscarriages of justice have taken place. “We cant consent to this” has some frightening statistics on the conviction rates associated with murders where sex games gone wrong is used in the defence. Hopefully the Domestic Abuse bill 2019-2021 will help with this, although it also poses a risk to BDSM practitioners that fall out with each other. Behaviour is “abusive” if it consists of any of the following— (a) physical or sexual abuse; (b) violent or threatening behaviour; (c) controlling or coercive behaviour; (d) economic abuse (see subsection (4)); (e) psychological, emotional or other abuse; It will take a while before we start to see some common sense approaches to the law and BDSM. As for being able to demonstrate that safe practises were used, that would be impossible to police. In much the same way it is impossible for an external agency to prevent those infected with viruses infecting others, all you can do is investigate after the fact and prove intent to harm. This is where PRICK comes into it for me. You need to take personal responsibility for your own health and wellbeing. " I think we are 100% on the same page. I have been advocating PRICK on Fab for the last 5 years in distinction to RACK, and SSCK. I would make two clarifications. The first clarification is my reference to safe practices was in regard to criminal cases where the BDSM excuse is raised in regard to death or grievous bodily harm (which can be inferred from your comments). When John Broadheath killed Natalie Connolly he received only 3 years as he claimed it was a bdsm session. If you have read the case there was nothing safe about what he did. The second clarification is that the Domestic Abuse Bill raises a number of issues for relationships. But I think it is no greater (in terms of impact than currently exists, there are however issues around power exchange). In regard to D/S people on Fab keep saying that subs need to trust the dom before they enter into a relationship. However few mention that the dom has to be able to trust the sub. The sub needs to be honest about what they are seeking and their experience. If the sub asks for hard impact the sub understands that is what the sub really wants. The sub understands with the best will in the world things go wrong e.g I do rope there are lots of ways that things can go wrong. The dom has to know that if they are honest and open and supportive about any issue the sub will work matters in a adult manner. | |||
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