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"If we say we prefer black guys, thats OK But we if we say we will only play with white guys, thats considered to be racist. The truth is we only find western european guys physically attractive. Its called PREFERENCE nothing sinister just preference, but why are we made to feel its wrong. The only time I will bend my kneee is when the Queen taps me on the shoulder with a sword and adds Sir to my name. Now lets listen to the trolls! G&A " Puts crash helmet on... | |||
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"If we say we prefer black guys, thats OK But we if we say we will only play with white guys, thats considered to be racist. The truth is we only find western european guys physically attractive. Its called PREFERENCE nothing sinister just preference, but why are we made to feel its wrong. The only time I will bend my kneee is when the Queen taps me on the shoulder with a sword and adds Sir to my name. Now lets listen to the trolls! G&A " There’s literally thousands of threads on here of people getting SLATED for only playing with black guys | |||
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"If we say we prefer black guys, thats OK But we if we say we will only play with white guys, thats considered to be racist. The truth is we only find western european guys physically attractive. Its called PREFERENCE nothing sinister just preference, but why are we made to feel its wrong. The only time I will bend my kneee is when the Queen taps me on the shoulder with a sword and adds Sir to my name. Now lets listen to the trolls! G&A " Lots of people have some very strange ideas on what is and what isn't racist. Just agree to disagree, don't worry about it and do what you want to do. Starting threads about it is unlikely to change anything, and will likely stir up people's emotions, perhaps that's what you want? | |||
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"Agreed. Preference shouldn't be confused with racism. I don't like having sex with Asian guys, but I love Asia, the culture, and the people. I don't like skinny or bald white guys either. Preference. Xx" Baldist! | |||
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"I don't like skinny or bald white guys either. Preference. Xx" I was already too old, and now these two too... | |||
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"It's called a preference!! That's the whole point of being on this site and having a profile, so you can say what you like. It's not racism at all. What's next, anyone blocking single guys being called sexist? Anyone not wanting to be fisted at a train station to be reported to British Rail??" "Anyone not wanting to be fisted at a train station to be reported to British Rail??" random but made me chuckle.  | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. " I love comments like this. A friend of mine has an English text book from the 1950's that categorises all the races and their emotional characteristics! This was taught to British children. History it is written by the dominant culture and anyone who is 50 and over will remember history being taught as the ascendancy and primacy of the white man which reflected the Victorian view of the world. Non-British cultures and cultures that were not white European and male were seen as inferior. However academic disciplines such as women's studies have reinterpreted history and we see this emerging, as an example in history programmes. Again as an example is the spate of programmes on the medieval queens of England who are now seen in a more humane light rather than stereotypical unwomanly b@tchs who went power mad. The contribution of women at all levels in society in history is being re-examined without male prejudice and re-evaluted in a positive light. In the same way the contribution of other cultures that are ignored is being re-evaluated and their positive contribution to British Society shown. | |||
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"It's called a preference!! That's the whole point of being on this site and having a profile, so you can say what you like. It's not racism at all. What's next, anyone blocking single guys being called sexist? Anyone not wanting to be fisted at a train station to be reported to British Rail??" Jeez, I hate to randomly find someone fisting someone at a train station!!   | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. I love comments like this. A friend of mine has an English text book from the 1950's that categorises all the races and their emotional characteristics! This was taught to British children. History it is written by the dominant culture and anyone who is 50 and over will remember history being taught as the ascendancy and primacy of the white man which reflected the Victorian view of the world. Non-British cultures and cultures that were not white European and male were seen as inferior. However academic disciplines such as women's studies have reinterpreted history and we see this emerging, as an example in history programmes. Again as an example is the spate of programmes on the medieval queens of England who are now seen in a more humane light rather than stereotypical unwomanly b@tchs who went power mad. The contribution of women at all levels in society in history is being re-examined without male prejudice and re-evaluted in a positive light. In the same way the contribution of other cultures that are ignored is being re-evaluated and their positive contribution to British Society shown. " I just thought it would be nice for all cultures to be treated as equal. Fortunately things have moved on since the 1950s. | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. I love comments like this. A friend of mine has an English text book from the 1950's that categorises all the races and their emotional characteristics! This was taught to British children. History it is written by the dominant culture and anyone who is 50 and over will remember history being taught as the ascendancy and primacy of the white man which reflected the Victorian view of the world. Non-British cultures and cultures that were not white European and male were seen as inferior. However academic disciplines such as women's studies have reinterpreted history and we see this emerging, as an example in history programmes. Again as an example is the spate of programmes on the medieval queens of England who are now seen in a more humane light rather than stereotypical unwomanly b@tchs who went power mad. The contribution of women at all levels in society in history is being re-examined without male prejudice and re-evaluted in a positive light. In the same way the contribution of other cultures that are ignored is being re-evaluated and their positive contribution to British Society shown. " You mean rewriting history? History is only one persons interpretation of events. Historians who write the history have their own prejudices and opinions and filters they write their history through. History teachers apply their own filters and prejudices, recipients apply their filters and prejudices ... Now apply new "facts" that we uncover, perhaps new context, or a new set of values which apply more filters... History is an interpretation at a point in time view of a past point in time. | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. I love comments like this. A friend of mine has an English text book from the 1950's that categorises all the races and their emotional characteristics! This was taught to British children. History it is written by the dominant culture and anyone who is 50 and over will remember history being taught as the ascendancy and primacy of the white man which reflected the Victorian view of the world. Non-British cultures and cultures that were not white European and male were seen as inferior. However academic disciplines such as women's studies have reinterpreted history and we see this emerging, as an example in history programmes. Again as an example is the spate of programmes on the medieval queens of England who are now seen in a more humane light rather than stereotypical unwomanly b@tchs who went power mad. The contribution of women at all levels in society in history is being re-examined without male prejudice and re-evaluted in a positive light. In the same way the contribution of other cultures that are ignored is being re-evaluated and their positive contribution to British Society shown. You mean rewriting history? History is only one persons interpretation of events. Historians who write the history have their own prejudices and opinions and filters they write their history through. History teachers apply their own filters and prejudices, recipients apply their filters and prejudices ... Now apply new "facts" that we uncover, perhaps new context, or a new set of values which apply more filters... History is an interpretation at a point in time view of a past point in time. " Since the 1960's history is regularly reinterpreted. It is not even a question of new facts but the removal of pre-existing biases in the historian interpreting first hand materials in regard to known events, or circumstances. | |||
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"If you want to fuck black chaps then fuck them if you want to fuck white chaps fuck them you don’t have to explain you’re reasons to a bunch of people on here "Absolutely correct, It's still racist, but you're under no obligation to explain it. Far worse to pretend "preference" is somehow a valid reason in itself, with no underlying motivation for that preference. | |||
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"If you want to fuck black chaps then fuck them if you want to fuck white chaps fuck them you don’t have to explain you’re reasons to a bunch of people on here
Absolutely correct, It's still racist, but you're under no obligation to explain it. Far worse to pretend "preference" is somehow a valid reason in itself, with no underlying motivation for that preference."exactly but it’s a fine line between the two but as I’ve said why do we have to explain ourselves to people who we will probably never ever have any contact with but that’s just my opinion | |||
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"If you want to fuck black chaps then fuck them if you want to fuck white chaps fuck them you don’t have to explain you’re reasons to a bunch of people on here
Absolutely correct, It's still racist, but you're under no obligation to explain it. Far worse to pretend "preference" is somehow a valid reason in itself, with no underlying motivation for that preference."Right. So I'm racist by your standards then for having preferences? I wasn't aware that I have to fuck people I'm not physically attracted to just to appear non racist. That's ridiculous! I'm here for my needs not those of others all the time. If I block single men or single women does that also make me sexist? If I don't want to meet bisexual people does that make me homophobic? I could continue with many more ics and isms but can't really be bothered to. | |||
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"If you want to fuck black chaps then fuck them if you want to fuck white chaps fuck them you don’t have to explain you’re reasons to a bunch of people on here
Absolutely correct, It's still racist, but you're under no obligation to explain it. Far worse to pretend "preference" is somehow a valid reason in itself, with no underlying motivation for that preference.
Right. So I'm racist by your standards then for having preferences? I wasn't aware that I have to fuck people I'm not physically attracted to just to appear non racist. That's ridiculous! I'm here for my needs not those of others all the time. If I block single men or single women does that also make me sexist? If I don't want to meet bisexual people does that make me homophobic? I could continue with many more ics and isms but can't really be bothered to. "serious question are you really bothered what people on here think you are ? As long as you know you’re not and at the end of the day how can you take anything serious from some people who are sat with their bits on show it always makes me laugh when people get all high and mighty whilst they have spunk all over them or sat with a sky remote next to their cock (cue the well you haven’t any pics comments) | |||
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"If we say we prefer black guys, thats OK But we if we say we will only play with white guys, thats considered to be racist. The truth is we only find western european guys physically attractive. Its called PREFERENCE nothing sinister just preference, but why are we made to feel its wrong. The only time I will bend my kneee is when the Queen taps me on the shoulder with a sword and adds Sir to my name. Now lets listen to the trolls! G&A " Add the good Lord to that, Oh and the mrs when she asks nicely and I fully agree with you. I choose who I wish to interact with, colour, creed or gender doesn't come into it. If they say I am a racist thats their Problem not mine, and no I dont want to know your racist views. Have fun all.   | |||
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"Easiest way to avoid any claims of racism is to not put it on your profile and when an unsuitable person, to you, messages you can say no thank you. " Exactly what we do | |||
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"At least try it before you say you don’t like it " 
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I'm not going to try it, if I'm not attracted to someone.
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"If we say we prefer black guys, thats OK But we if we say we will only play with white guys, thats considered to be racist. The truth is we only find western european guys physically attractive. Its called PREFERENCE nothing sinister just preference, but why are we made to feel its wrong. The only time I will bend my kneee is when the Queen taps me on the shoulder with a sword and adds Sir to my name. Now lets listen to the trolls! G&A " I'm confused why you're conflating a racial sexual preference with bending the knee? | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. " Main stream history in the western world is predominantly white history hence the need for a black history month | |||
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"There’s nothing about your preference that’s implicitly racist. However, the fact you decided to throw in something entirely unconnected about not bending the knee speaks of the type of people who don’t think Lawrence Fox is an obvious moron, have stopped watching Britain’s Got Talent because they allow Diversity to do a dance and won’t shop in Sainsbury’s anymore because they have an open stance of not wanting racists as customers. People will draw their own conclusions, naturally." | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. Presumably then you believe that non white parts of the world should be running White history month at the same time ? Main stream history in the western world is predominantly white history hence the need for a black history month " | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. Main stream history in the western world is predominantly white history hence the need for a black history month " Presumably then you believe that non white parts of the world should be running White history month at the same time ? | |||
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"The swinging world has gone mad...... People are actually more concerned about labeling each other rather than meeting for great sex...... Fab has now become Facebook " | |||
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"If you want to fuck black chaps then fuck them if you want to fuck white chaps fuck them you don’t have to explain you’re reasons to a bunch of people on here
Absolutely correct, It's still racist, but you're under no obligation to explain it. Far worse to pretend "preference" is somehow a valid reason in itself, with no underlying motivation for that preference.
Right. So I'm racist by your standards then for having preferences? I wasn't aware that I have to fuck people I'm not physically attracted to just to appear non racist. That's ridiculous! I'm here for my needs not those of others all the time. If I block single men or single women does that also make me sexist? If I don't want to meet bisexual people does that make me homophobic? I could continue with many more ics and isms but can't really be bothered to. "ah cute. So as ever, the point is an overt, elective public statement saying all people of a certain colour can go away is racist. Who you find attractive, and navigating to that endpoint in an intelligent, adult way is, in itself, not. Different things, if you can't see the difference, it's on you. | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. Main stream history in the western world is predominantly white history hence the need for a black history month " So what about Asian history month? | |||
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"The swinging world has gone mad...... People are actually more concerned about labeling each other rather than meeting for great sex...... Fab has now become Facebook Your not wrong there and with everything that's going on, even more like facebook. Hardly anyone chatting and no one meeting, definitely like facebook " | |||
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" Presumably then you believe that non white parts of the world should be running White history month at the same time ? " Do you think highlighting black history is a bad thing? | |||
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" Presumably then you believe that non white parts of the world should be running White history month at the same time ? Do you think highlighting black history is a bad thing? " That's not answering the question...
But you knew that, you avoided answering it.... I wonder why.. Hmmmm | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. Main stream history in the western world is predominantly white history hence the need for a black history month Presumably then you believe that non white parts of the world should be running White history month at the same time ? " No | |||
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"If you want to fuck black chaps then fuck them if you want to fuck white chaps fuck them you don’t have to explain you’re reasons to a bunch of people on here
Absolutely correct, It's still racist, but you're under no obligation to explain it. Far worse to pretend "preference" is somehow a valid reason in itself, with no underlying motivation for that preference.
Right. So I'm racist by your standards then for having preferences? I wasn't aware that I have to fuck people I'm not physically attracted to just to appear non racist. That's ridiculous! I'm here for my needs not those of others all the time. If I block single men or single women does that also make me sexist? If I don't want to meet bisexual people does that make me homophobic? I could continue with many more ics and isms but can't really be bothered to. "Don’t waste your time. A sexual preference is completely different to anything else and cannot be treated the same as say a job or having friends. It’s not racism to have a sexual preference equally as it’s not homophobic to not want to sleep with women. If one has a sexual preference but treats every race the same in all other walks of life then they’re obviously not racist. | |||
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"If you want to fuck black chaps then fuck them if you want to fuck white chaps fuck them you don’t have to explain you’re reasons to a bunch of people on here
Absolutely correct, It's still racist, but you're under no obligation to explain it. Far worse to pretend "preference" is somehow a valid reason in itself, with no underlying motivation for that preference.
Right. So I'm racist by your standards then for having preferences? I wasn't aware that I have to fuck people I'm not physically attracted to just to appear non racist. That's ridiculous! I'm here for my needs not those of others all the time. If I block single men or single women does that also make me sexist? If I don't want to meet bisexual people does that make me homophobic? I could continue with many more ics and isms but can't really be bothered to.
ah cute.
So as ever, the point is an overt, elective public statement saying all people of a certain colour can go away is racist. Who you find attractive, and navigating to that endpoint in an intelligent, adult way is, in itself, not.
Different things, if you can't see the difference, it's on you."Your initial reply here perhaps should have differentiated. It just implies having a preference is racist. Where as your now saying you were referring to blanket statements not peoples preferences. It wasn't clear in this part: Absolutely correct, It's still racist, but you're under no obligation to explain it. Far worse to pretend "preference" is somehow a valid reason in itself, with no underlying motivation for that preference. Not clear at all - that's on you | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. Main stream history in the western world is predominantly white history hence the need for a black history month So what about Asian history month? " Have you protested for it? Will you be making a petition for one? Or are you just going to virtue signal? It’s only in October when it’s Black History Month do people care about “White History” or “Asian History” you never cared in September or August, so why now? | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. Main stream history in the western world is predominantly white history hence the need for a black history month Presumably then you believe that non white parts of the world should be running White history month at the same time ? " Yes if those parts of the world have attempted to erase certain parts of white history, have washed over the history to make it seem nicer than it was and only teach a certain part of the history in school. What country has done that with white history? Could you list them? Thanks. | |||
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" Presumably then you believe that non white parts of the world should be running White history month at the same time ? Do you think highlighting black history is a bad thing? " Yes I do. The world has history and that history involved people of all colours, race, sex and religion. Highlighting Black is no less racist or biased than highlighting any of the others, we are all equal. It would be nice now if you answered my question Mark | |||
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"Always drama about this type of posts...if u don't like blacks say no i don't want have sex with blacks, asians, yellows, pinks whatever...if u like then u enjoy your preference and fantasy... " Ah bless. Racism and broken English, they fit so well together! | |||
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" Presumably then you believe that non white parts of the world should be running White history month at the same time ? Do you think highlighting black history is a bad thing? Yes I do. The world has history and that history involved people of all colours, race, sex and religion. Highlighting Black is no less racist or biased than highlighting any of the others, we are all equal. It would be nice now if you answered my question Mark" I’ve answered it, you’re welcome to respond. It’s not racist to have a month that highlights history that’s not been taught, it’s not racist to have a St George’s Day of a St Patrick’s Day either. It’s not islamophobic to celebrate Christmas or Thanksgiving. | |||
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"Always drama about this type of posts...if u don't like blacks say no i don't want have sex with blacks, asians, yellows, pinks whatever...if u like then u enjoy your preference and fantasy... Ah bless. Racism and broken English, they fit so well together!" What was racist in that post? | |||
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"Always drama about this type of posts...if u don't like blacks say no i don't want have sex with blacks, asians, yellows, pinks whatever...if u like then u enjoy your preference and fantasy... Ah bless. Racism and broken English, they fit so well together!" I hope your wife will feel big black in her ass, make her crying while u watching tied up | |||
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"I dont even know why people even have to state their preference regarding race. Just delete messages that are from profiles that are quite obvious not to your taste. Avoids any undertone of racism that sometimes shines through in profiles." Because it can potentially minimise the amount of messages one gets? Just like stating your body preference can. | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. I love comments like this. A friend of mine has an English text book from the 1950's that categorises all the races and their emotional characteristics! This was taught to British children. History it is written by the dominant culture and anyone who is 50 and over will remember history being taught as the ascendancy and primacy of the white man which reflected the Victorian view of the world. Non-British cultures and cultures that were not white European and male were seen as inferior. However academic disciplines such as women's studies have reinterpreted history and we see this emerging, as an example in history programmes. Again as an example is the spate of programmes on the medieval queens of England who are now seen in a more humane light rather than stereotypical unwomanly b@tchs who went power mad. The contribution of women at all levels in society in history is being re-examined without male prejudice and re-evaluted in a positive light. In the same way the contribution of other cultures that are ignored is being re-evaluated and their positive contribution to British Society shown. " Well in Britain’s little bubble in the 1950s I dare say that’s true. Meanwhile in China, Russia, Brazil, Ghana etc etc they were also all teaching their own great and glorious histories. | |||
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"I dont even know why people even have to state their preference regarding race. Just delete messages that are from profiles that are quite obvious not to your taste. Avoids any undertone of racism that sometimes shines through in profiles. Because it can potentially minimise the amount of messages one gets? Just like stating your body preference can. " I'm pretty sure it doesn't though. The profiles that make a big difference regarding any kind of preference....arent exactly the most attractive so I doubt their message tally is so big they have to try and minimise them | |||
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"I dont even know why people even have to state their preference regarding race. Just delete messages that are from profiles that are quite obvious not to your taste. Avoids any undertone of racism that sometimes shines through in profiles." Because they can't filter their messages like I can for not wanting to meet people older than me... | |||
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"I dont even know why people even have to state their preference regarding race. Just delete messages that are from profiles that are quite obvious not to your taste. Avoids any undertone of racism that sometimes shines through in profiles. Because it can potentially minimise the amount of messages one gets? Just like stating your body preference can. I'm pretty sure it doesn't though. The profiles that make a big difference regarding any kind of preference....arent exactly the most attractive so I doubt their message tally is so big they have to try and minimise them " I’m pretty sure it does. Plenty profiles have preferences mentioned from race, to age to body size, many attractive many not. It’s subjective. As someone with a race preference politely stated on my profile my message tally is still big, and it certainly works to minimise the amount of messages from those I’m not attracted to, although not completely I definitely saw a difference compared to when I didn’t mention it. So it works. | |||
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" Presumably then you believe that non white parts of the world should be running White history month at the same time ? Do you think highlighting black history is a bad thing? Yes I do. The world has history and that history involved people of all colours, race, sex and religion. Highlighting Black is no less racist or biased than highlighting any of the others, we are all equal. It would be nice now if you answered my question Mark I’ve answered it, you’re welcome to respond. It’s not racist to have a month that highlights history that’s not been taught, it’s not racist to have a St George’s Day of a St Patrick’s Day either. It’s not islamophobic to celebrate Christmas or Thanksgiving. I agree with most of this But "highlights a history that has not been taught" You do relise how much of history has not been taught? Most well read historians will have covered less than 1%of it in a lifetimes work We simply cannot teach all of history, so singling out any particular element of it excludes many others. Theres just too much to learn. Good post though "Obviously we cannot teach all history, but we can give outlets for people to further their knowledge. That was never done in school, I don’t know about anyone else but I only learnt about slavery in regards to my history in school, I didn’t learn about Black Tudors or Mary Seacole or John Black or many other very influential figures who deserve to be mentioned. I think there should be a balance. We learn about Tudors in school but didn’t learn about the black ones, we learnt about Florence Nightingale but not Mary Seacole who came before Florence. | |||
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"I dont even know why people even have to state their preference regarding race. Just delete messages that are from profiles that are quite obvious not to your taste. Avoids any undertone of racism that sometimes shines through in profiles. Because they can't filter their messages like I can for not wanting to meet people older than me... " I'm sure people have to delete alot more messages from people just being annoying and desperate than the amount of messages they would have to delete for someone being the wrong colour. Adding a race preference is not going to minimise the amount of messages someone get compared to an age preference. That's all I'm saying. | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. Main stream history in the western world is predominantly white history hence the need for a black history month So what about Asian history month? Have you protested for it? Will you be making a petition for one? Or are you just going to virtue signal? It’s only in October when it’s Black History Month do people care about “White History” or “Asian History” you never cared in September or August, so why now? For the same reason people care about a black history month this month - did they not care last month? Why should the caring not extend year round? I care about Black History every single day, I research it and read about it regularly, have plenty of books on it and I’m sure many others who support do similar. It still doesn’t answer why some people wait til BHM to mention White History or Asian History. Why do you only mention that in October? What’s the reason? " I don't mention it tbh at any time. I don't mention anyone's history exclusively, my interest varies And your reply didn't answer my question either about why people only care now - and the reason for that is that we can only speak for ourselves,neither of us know what those other people are thinking and why. | |||
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"I dont even know why people even have to state their preference regarding race. Just delete messages that are from profiles that are quite obvious not to your taste. Avoids any undertone of racism that sometimes shines through in profiles. Because they can't filter their messages like I can for not wanting to meet people older than me... I'm sure people have to delete alot more messages from people just being annoying and desperate than the amount of messages they would have to delete for someone being the wrong colour. Adding a race preference is not going to minimise the amount of messages someone get compared to an age preference. That's all I'm saying. " But as I just said, I noticed the difference in the amount of messages when I put the racial preference on my profile. There was a very obvious difference, it didn’t stop every single person, but it definitely cut down, so again, it works. If people don’t like what others state on their profile within the rules they should just block and move on. | |||
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"As people have stated on this thread, it's a preference. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not racist at all. Having said that, there's a lot on TV about a month of black history programmes, so would it also be appropriate to have a month's worth of white history, Asian history programmes etc.? Just a bit of food for thought there. Main stream history in the western world is predominantly white history hence the need for a black history month So what about Asian history month? Have you protested for it? Will you be making a petition for one? Or are you just going to virtue signal? It’s only in October when it’s Black History Month do people care about “White History” or “Asian History” you never cared in September or August, so why now? For the same reason people care about a black history month this month - did they not care last month? Why should the caring not extend year round? I care about Black History every single day, I research it and read about it regularly, have plenty of books on it and I’m sure many others who support do similar. It still doesn’t answer why some people wait til BHM to mention White History or Asian History. Why do you only mention that in October? What’s the reason? I don't mention it tbh at any time. I don't mention anyone's history exclusively, my interest varies And your reply didn't answer my question either about why people only care now - and the reason for that is that we can only speak for ourselves,neither of us know what those other people are thinking and why. " Well it did answer your question as I spoke for myself, I can also speak for family and friends who I’ve exchanged books with over Black History, not just in October...
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" Presumably then you believe that non white parts of the world should be running White history month at the same time ? Do you think highlighting black history is a bad thing? Yes I do. The world has history and that history involved people of all colours, race, sex and religion. Highlighting Black is no less racist or biased than highlighting any of the others, we are all equal. It would be nice now if you answered my question Mark I’ve answered it, you’re welcome to respond. It’s not racist to have a month that highlights history that’s not been taught, it’s not racist to have a St George’s Day of a St Patrick’s Day either. It’s not islamophobic to celebrate Christmas or Thanksgiving. I agree with most of this But "highlights a history that has not been taught" You do relise how much of history has not been taught? Most well read historians will have covered less than 1%of it in a lifetimes work We simply cannot teach all of history, so singling out any particular element of it excludes many others. Theres just too much to learn. Good post though
Obviously we cannot teach all history, but we can give outlets for people to further their knowledge.
That was never done in school, I don’t know about anyone else but I only learnt about slavery in regards to my history in school, I didn’t learn about Black Tudors or Mary Seacole or John Black or many other very influential figures who deserve to be mentioned.
I think there should be a balance. We learn about Tudors in school but didn’t learn about the black ones, we learnt about Florence Nightingale but not Mary Seacole who came before Florence. "We learnt about cowboys,and the American West in secondary school. I would have preferred British history tbh. I was born in Africa, and we learned about African history there. I expect in India they teach Indian history, and in China Chinese history, it doesnt seem unreasonable But personally i have found many other areas more interesting, the Romans, Genghis, the Tzars,Hannibal, are all things I personally enjoyed learning about and they all vary in origin. | |||
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"But as I just said, I noticed the difference in the amount of messages when I put the racial preference on my profile. There was a very obvious difference, it didn’t stop every single person, but it definitely cut down, so again, it works. If people don’t like what others state on their profile within the rules they should just block and move on." I don't see how "it works" is the fundamental justification for it. You are making a blanket statement that you don't want to know anything about a ethnicity, no matter who they are as an individual. It "works" for you, but to many of those people, they are just reading again and again that they are not worth talking to, just dismissed out of hand, in yet another facet of their life. But it's all OK, because it makes your life easier..? Nope, not buying it, and never will. | |||
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"If you want to fuck black chaps then fuck them if you want to fuck white chaps fuck them you don’t have to explain you’re reasons to a bunch of people on here
Absolutely correct, It's still racist, but you're under no obligation to explain it. Far worse to pretend "preference" is somehow a valid reason in itself, with no underlying motivation for that preference.
Right. So I'm racist by your standards then for having preferences? I wasn't aware that I have to fuck people I'm not physically attracted to just to appear non racist. That's ridiculous! I'm here for my needs not those of others all the time. If I block single men or single women does that also make me sexist? If I don't want to meet bisexual people does that make me homophobic? I could continue with many more ics and isms but can't really be bothered to.
Don’t waste your time.
A sexual preference is completely different to anything else and cannot be treated the same as say a job or having friends.
It’s not racism to have a sexual preference equally as it’s not homophobic to not want to sleep with women.
If one has a sexual preference but treats every race the same in all other walks of life then they’re obviously not racist. "Personally speaking, I'm not any kind of -ist or -ism. If I find someone attractive then colour or sexuality has nothing to do with it. Having said that when I've rejected people politely on the grounds of age or distance, for example, they've pulled the racist card on me. That is entirely their fault for ignoring my preferences and expecting me to make exceptions just for them. These preferences are exactly the same for all races and cultures. I make no exceptions. | |||
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"If we say we prefer black guys, thats OK But we if we say we will only play with white guys, thats considered to be racist. The truth is we only find western european guys physically attractive. Its called PREFERENCE nothing sinister just preference, but why are we made to feel its wrong. The only time I will bend my kneee is when the Queen taps me on the shoulder with a sword and adds Sir to my name. Now lets listen to the trolls! G&A " I agree with yo 100%. To me white lives matter just as much as Black, yellow, tanned or any other race / colour that you can think of!! | |||
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"But as I just said, I noticed the difference in the amount of messages when I put the racial preference on my profile. There was a very obvious difference, it didn’t stop every single person, but it definitely cut down, so again, it works. If people don’t like what others state on their profile within the rules they should just block and move on. I don't see how "it works" is the fundamental justification for it. You are making a blanket statement that you don't want to know anything about a ethnicity, no matter who they are as an individual. It "works" for you, but to many of those people, they are just reading again and again that they are not worth talking to, just dismissed out of hand, in yet another facet of their life. But it's all OK, because it makes your life easier..? Nope, not buying it, and never will." You don’t have to buy it, it doesn’t affect you. I state on my profile I’m looking for “likeminded white males” so I must be racist to my own black people because I am more attracted to white men than black men, right? Age filters do the same thing, so do body type preferences. Look how many over 50 for example complain that so many have their upper age limit set to 50, they have to read that over and over again too, and nobody objects. This is a swinger site, within the rules people can search for what they like and have what they like on their profile. It’s not a site for the faint hearted who can’t handle rejection. I’m not on here to appease to those I’m not interested in, if that offend some, they can block me. Problem solved. | |||
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Obviously we cannot teach all history, but we can give outlets for people to further their knowledge.
That was never done in school, I don’t know about anyone else but I only learnt about slavery in regards to my history in school, I didn’t learn about Black Tudors or Mary Seacole or John Black or many other very influential figures who deserve to be mentioned.
I think there should be a balance. We learn about Tudors in school but didn’t learn about the black ones, we learnt about Florence Nightingale but not Mary Seacole who came before Florence.
We learnt about cowboys,and the American West in secondary school.
I would have preferred British history tbh.
I was born in Africa, and we learned about African history there.
I expect in India they teach Indian history, and in China Chinese history, it doesnt seem unreasonable
But personally i have found many other areas more interesting, the Romans, Genghis, the Tzars,Hannibal, are all things I personally enjoyed learning about and they all vary in origin.
"And that’s fine. However British history includes some black history, so does American history and that’s why I think it should be taught to a wider range that it already does. So much importance is missed out. In Jamaica they teach about the royals, slavery, the Tudor’s etc. So they touch on a lot of history including their own. | |||
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"Here is a bog standard conservation with a daft racist. Racist - "Sorry, I don't sleep with Asians" Me - "I'm English, not Asian, I'm mixed race, my dad is mixed race...his dad is from Africa" Racist - "Oh right" Me - "so...erm...what bad experience have you had with an Asian guy?" Racist - "I haven't slept with one before" Me - "oh..." If you say you won't sleep with somebody just because of the colour of their skin, personally I commend you. Honestly I do. You're letting all the none racist people know you're a deranged racist. Which is positive for me, because I know who to avoid. So let me get this right, I’m a deranged racist because on here I’d like to meet white men and not black men? Even though I treat all men equally at work, in the street, in my family etc. Bearing in mind I’m a black woman... Have I got that right? " you are in a roll, please educate these people in at work and don’t have the time | |||
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"Here is a bog standard conservation with a daft racist. Racist - "Sorry, I don't sleep with Asians" Me - "I'm English, not Asian, I'm mixed race, my dad is mixed race...his dad is from Africa" Racist - "Oh right" Me - "so...erm...what bad experience have you had with an Asian guy?" Racist - "I haven't slept with one before" Me - "oh..." If you say you won't sleep with somebody just because of the colour of their skin, personally I commend you. Honestly I do. You're letting all the none racist people know you're a deranged racist. Which is positive for me, because I know who to avoid. So let me get this right, I’m a deranged racist because on here I’d like to meet white men and not black men? Even though I treat all men equally at work, in the street, in my family etc. Bearing in mind I’m a black woman... Have I got that right? "Why do you care? That's another problem apart from ignorant racist stereotypes. We don't all have to agree. The fact I think you're deranged for selecting people to play in the sheets with based on skin colour, is up to me. I don't have to qualify my opinion, like you don't have to qualify yours. But yes, imo, selecting people based on ethnicity, on race and pretty much only race, is racist. Ask people to explain why, and it'll unravel the at minimum xenophobic stereotypes. It's not KKK hang a n*gger from a tree racist, but it's probably based on stereotypes, usually ignorant ones. For instance, I had a woman who said "I don't like the way Asians smell", I mean lmao. Honestly, some people are so dense, you honestly can't be offended by them. | |||
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"Here is a bog standard conservation with a daft racist. Racist - "Sorry, I don't sleep with Asians" Me - "I'm English, not Asian, I'm mixed race, my dad is mixed race...his dad is from Africa" Racist - "Oh right" Me - "so...erm...what bad experience have you had with an Asian guy?" Racist - "I haven't slept with one before" Me - "oh..." If you say you won't sleep with somebody just because of the colour of their skin, personally I commend you. Honestly I do. You're letting all the none racist people know you're a deranged racist. Which is positive for me, because I know who to avoid. So let me get this right, I’m a deranged racist because on here I’d like to meet white men and not black men? Even though I treat all men equally at work, in the street, in my family etc. Bearing in mind I’m a black woman... Have I got that right?
Why do you care?
That's another problem apart from ignorant racist stereotypes.
We don't all have to agree.
The fact I think you're deranged for selecting people to play in the sheets with based on skin colour, is up to me.
I don't have to qualify my opinion, like you don't have to qualify yours.
But yes, imo, selecting people based on ethnicity, on race and pretty much only race, is racist. Ask people to explain why, and it'll unravel the at minimum xenophobic stereotypes.
It's not KKK hang a n*gger from a tree racist, but it's probably based on stereotypes, usually ignorant ones.
For instance, I had a woman who said "I don't like the way Asians smell", I mean lmao.
Honestly, some people are so dense, you honestly can't be offended by them."I don’t care, I’m just asking how your logic works. Because sexual preferences and who I decided to sleep with doesn’t make me a racist since I treat people of all races equally in any other aspect of life. Although I have exes from different races, so I do find it amusing. Racism is to deem another race inferior or superior. To not went to have sex with people but treat them exactly the same as anyone else platonically is not racism. Discrimination maybe, but racism it is not and never will be. This is why people don’t take notice of actual racism, because far too many bandy the word around for anything that they don’t like. | |||
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"I must say I 1000% agree with this. At the end of the day preference is preference and it SHOULD ALWAYS be respected Is this fair? But being devil's advocate... To rule out a whole race could be seen as extreme because whos to say that you will never meet/cross paths with someone of that race who gives you instant fanny flutters or at least draws your attention. In the mind of those trolls that have a problem with people's preference it may seem as though their looks or personality would never matter and it's simply because of there race/or colour which sounds abit mad and they may feel attacked ahaha lol.(HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING) But still preference is preference and should always be respected " | |||
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"Here is a bog standard conservation with a daft racist. Racist - "Sorry, I don't sleep with Asians" Me - "I'm English, not Asian, I'm mixed race, my dad is mixed race...his dad is from Africa" Racist - "Oh right" Me - "so...erm...what bad experience have you had with an Asian guy?" Racist - "I haven't slept with one before" Me - "oh..." If you say you won't sleep with somebody just because of the colour of their skin, personally I commend you. Honestly I do. You're letting all the none racist people know you're a deranged racist. Which is positive for me, because I know who to avoid. So let me get this right, I’m a deranged racist because on here I’d like to meet white men and not black men? Even though I treat all men equally at work, in the street, in my family etc. Bearing in mind I’m a black woman... Have I got that right?
Why do you care?
That's another problem apart from ignorant racist stereotypes.
We don't all have to agree.
The fact I think you're deranged for selecting people to play in the sheets with based on skin colour, is up to me.
I don't have to qualify my opinion, like you don't have to qualify yours.
But yes, imo, selecting people based on ethnicity, on race and pretty much only race, is racist. Ask people to explain why, and it'll unravel the at minimum xenophobic stereotypes.
It's not KKK hang a n*gger from a tree racist, but it's probably based on stereotypes, usually ignorant ones.
For instance, I had a woman who said "I don't like the way Asians smell", I mean lmao.
Honestly, some people are so dense, you honestly can't be offended by them.
I don’t care, I’m just asking how your logic works.
Because sexual preferences and who I decided to sleep with doesn’t make me a racist since I treat people of all races equally in any other aspect of life.
Although I have exes from different races, so I do find it amusing.
Racism is to deem another race inferior or superior. To not went to have sex with people but treat them exactly the same as anyone else platonically is not racism.
Discrimination maybe, but racism it is not and never will be. This is why people don’t take notice of actual racism, because far too many bandy the word around for anything that they don’t like. "If you're determine literally billions of people, most of whom you've never seen, let alone spoken to, are "unattractive" based only on race. Yeah, you might wanna have a think about that. Hitler had a "preference" for less Jews, Mosley had a "preference" for less blacks. Segregation was a "preference". Be you, but don't be surprised if people say it's ignorant as fuck. | |||
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"If we say we prefer black guys, thats OK But we if we say we will only play with white guys, thats considered to be racist. The truth is we only find western european guys physically attractive. Its called PREFERENCE nothing sinister just preference, but why are we made to feel its wrong. The only time I will bend my kneee is when the Queen taps me on the shoulder with a sword and adds Sir to my name. Now lets listen to the trolls! G&A " what the fuck does bending the knee have to do with your sexual preference? you appear to be making unconnected statements. | |||
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"If we say we prefer black guys, thats OK But we if we say we will only play with white guys, thats considered to be racist. The truth is we only find western european guys physically attractive. Its called PREFERENCE nothing sinister just preference, but why are we made to feel its wrong. The only time I will bend my kneee is when the Queen taps me on the shoulder with a sword and adds Sir to my name. Now lets listen to the trolls! G&A what the fuck does bending the knee have to do with your sexual preference? you appear to be making unconnected statements." My guess is alt right racist troll. How you get on a swinging site and start going off about "reverse racism" is beyond me, but here we are. Gammons gotta gammon. | |||
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"I’m so glad someone has said it I’m called racist every single day I’m abused every single day I report the guys We need to have a ethnicity check box There’s age There’s sex We need this too I put it to black guys who have straight on their profiles....you only like women so are you homophobic? I only like white average dad bod men sexually but I’m certainly not racist Some like Asian some like black some like white Some only want us bigger women some only want slim It is a sexual preference but seems we are not allowed to express that " Regarding the homophobic argument, that’s biology, which is different to social conditioning which I believe affects everything else. Personally if I see a profile that has a desire for particular race only or whatever else, I just keep it moving, but it does make me wonder...why is that? Also the context and manner in which that preference is expressed I think is more important. | |||
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"Regarding the taking of a knee. That’s fine in my eyes. But raising the clenched fist??? Noooo way. It represents a period in history of violent extremism... black power .... " What period of extreme violence btw? Black Power was a response group formed to protect People of colour against violent extremism from the KKK never ever against anything else so what does the clenched fist have to do with anything other than black power which is a good positive movement? | |||
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" Presumably then you believe that non white parts of the world should be running White history month at the same time ? Do you think highlighting black history is a bad thing? That's not answering the question...
But you knew that, you avoided answering it.... I wonder why.. Hmmmm"The question wasn't directed at me. | |||
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" If you're determine literally billions of people, most of whom you've never seen, let alone spoken to, are "unattractive" based only on race. Yeah, you might wanna have a think about that. Hitler had a "preference" for less Jews, Mosley had a "preference" for less blacks. Segregation was a "preference". Be you, but don't be surprised if people say it's ignorant as fuck." Why would I be surprised? There’s a lot of misinformed people in the world who are wrong. Using the race card for anything and everything when it’s discrimination doesn’t surprise me, it’s literally engrained in some people to cry racism at any given chance. Hitler hated Jews. Mosley hated Blacks. Segregation was about deeming the white race superior to black people that’s why the white spaces were always far nicer and more posh. Many of us with preferences don’t “hate” anyone, so that’s where you’re wrong. Secondly many of us have a preference on this site but less so on dating sites, I mean, I have black & mixed race ex boyfriends... but I’m a deranged racist right? :D This is why calling people racist based on their sexual preference is stupid, because you don’t know why they have it and whether that preference carries over into every aspect of life. It’s interesting you mention ignorance but don’t realise the ignorance in labelling people you haven’t met just by reading their profile. You can judge them based on it, that’s fine, but to label people you don’t know is ignorance in itself. I’d ride Idris Elba until his dick fell off, but I’d pick Tom Hardy over Lenny Henry every-time. Instead of labelling people based on your own perceptions and experiences it’s far better to block the profiles that don’t appeal to you. Women aren’t homophobic for not wanting to fuck women. Men aren’t ageist for wanting under 40s. People aren’t sizeist for not wanting to fuck fat people. Sexual preference is far too complicated to label people racist or any other ism. | |||
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"I’m so glad someone has said it I’m called racist every single day I’m abused every single day I report the guys We need to have a ethnicity check box There’s age There’s sex We need this too I put it to black guys who have straight on their profiles....you only like women so are you homophobic? I only like white average dad bod men sexually but I’m certainly not racist Some like Asian some like black some like white Some only want us bigger women some only want slim It is a sexual preference but seems we are not allowed to express that Regarding the homophobic argument, that’s biology, which is different to social conditioning which I believe affects everything else. Personally if I see a profile that has a desire for particular race only or whatever else, I just keep it moving, but it does make me wonder...why is that? Also the context and manner in which that preference is expressed I think is more important. " Same here mate, like a warning signal, in bright neon "avoid". | |||
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"Here is a bog standard conservation with a daft racist. Racist - "Sorry, I don't sleep with Asians" Me - "I'm English, not Asian, I'm mixed race, my dad is mixed race...his dad is from Africa" Racist - "Oh right" Me - "so...erm...what bad experience have you had with an Asian guy?" Racist - "I haven't slept with one before" Me - "oh..." If you say you won't sleep with somebody just because of the colour of their skin, personally I commend you. Honestly I do. You're letting all the none racist people know you're a deranged racist. Which is positive for me, because I know who to avoid. So let me get this right, I’m a deranged racist because on here I’d like to meet white men and not black men? Even though I treat all men equally at work, in the street, in my family etc. Bearing in mind I’m a black woman... Have I got that right?
Why do you care?
That's another problem apart from ignorant racist stereotypes.
We don't all have to agree.
The fact I think you're deranged for selecting people to play in the sheets with based on skin colour, is up to me.
I don't have to qualify my opinion, like you don't have to qualify yours.
But yes, imo, selecting people based on ethnicity, on race and pretty much only race, is racist. Ask people to explain why, and it'll unravel the at minimum xenophobic stereotypes.
It's not KKK hang a n*gger from a tree racist, but it's probably based on stereotypes, usually ignorant ones.
For instance, I had a woman who said "I don't like the way Asians smell", I mean lmao.
Honestly, some people are so dense, you honestly can't be offended by them.
I don’t care, I’m just asking how your logic works.
Because sexual preferences and who I decided to sleep with doesn’t make me a racist since I treat people of all races equally in any other aspect of life.
Although I have exes from different races, so I do find it amusing.
Racism is to deem another race inferior or superior. To not went to have sex with people but treat them exactly the same as anyone else platonically is not racism.
Discrimination maybe, but racism it is not and never will be. This is why people don’t take notice of actual racism, because far too many bandy the word around for anything that they don’t like.
If you're determine literally billions of people, most of whom you've never seen, let alone spoken to, are "unattractive" based only on race.
Yeah, you might wanna have a think about that.
Hitler had a "preference" for less Jews, Mosley had a "preference" for less blacks. Segregation was a "preference".
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"The black power movement in the late 60s early 70s was an extreme movement the used bombs but that’s easily glossed over .... yes there was discrimination against them ... violence never solved a problem. " Pretty sure the government did as well... | |||
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" If you're determine literally billions of people, most of whom you've never seen, let alone spoken to, are "unattractive" based only on race. Yeah, you might wanna have a think about that. Hitler had a "preference" for less Jews, Mosley had a "preference" for less blacks. Segregation was a "preference". Be you, but don't be surprised if people say it's ignorant as fuck. Why would I be surprised? There’s a lot of misinformed people in the world who are wrong. Using the race card for anything and everything when it’s discrimination doesn’t surprise me, it’s literally engrained in some people to cry racism at any given chance. Hitler hated Jews. Mosley hated Blacks. Segregation was about deeming the white race superior to black people that’s why the white spaces were always far nicer and more posh. Many of us with preferences don’t “hate” anyone, so that’s where you’re wrong. Secondly many of us have a preference on this site but less so on dating sites, I mean, I have black & mixed race ex boyfriends... but I’m a deranged racist right? :D This is why calling people racist based on their sexual preference is stupid, because you don’t know why they have it and whether that preference carries over into every aspect of life. It’s interesting you mention ignorance but don’t realise the ignorance in labelling people you haven’t met just by reading their profile. You can judge them based on it, that’s fine, but to label people you don’t know is ignorance in itself. I’d ride Idris Elba until his dick fell off, but I’d pick Tom Hardy over Lenny Henry every-time. Instead of labelling people based on your own perceptions and experiences it’s far better to block the profiles that don’t appeal to you. Women aren’t homophobic for not wanting to fuck women. Men aren’t ageist for wanting under 40s. People aren’t sizeist for not wanting to fuck fat people. Sexual preference is far too complicated to label people racist or any other ism." Much of what you said can be categorised under the "I'm not racist because I have black friends" arguement. Which is shit. Did you know one of the heads of the KKK had a black friend? Used to fix his TV. He was still a racist. He was also deranged. We don't have to agree. Do you. | |||
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" If you're determine literally billions of people, most of whom you've never seen, let alone spoken to, are "unattractive" based only on race. Yeah, you might wanna have a think about that. Hitler had a "preference" for less Jews, Mosley had a "preference" for less blacks. Segregation was a "preference". Be you, but don't be surprised if people say it's ignorant as fuck. Why would I be surprised? There’s a lot of misinformed people in the world who are wrong. Using the race card for anything and everything when it’s discrimination doesn’t surprise me, it’s literally engrained in some people to cry racism at any given chance. Hitler hated Jews. Mosley hated Blacks. Segregation was about deeming the white race superior to black people that’s why the white spaces were always far nicer and more posh. Many of us with preferences don’t “hate” anyone, so that’s where you’re wrong. Secondly many of us have a preference on this site but less so on dating sites, I mean, I have black & mixed race ex boyfriends... but I’m a deranged racist right? :D This is why calling people racist based on their sexual preference is stupid, because you don’t know why they have it and whether that preference carries over into every aspect of life. It’s interesting you mention ignorance but don’t realise the ignorance in labelling people you haven’t met just by reading their profile. You can judge them based on it, that’s fine, but to label people you don’t know is ignorance in itself. I’d ride Idris Elba until his dick fell off, but I’d pick Tom Hardy over Lenny Henry every-time. Instead of labelling people based on your own perceptions and experiences it’s far better to block the profiles that don’t appeal to you. Women aren’t homophobic for not wanting to fuck women. Men aren’t ageist for wanting under 40s. People aren’t sizeist for not wanting to fuck fat people. Sexual preference is far too complicated to label people racist or any other ism. Much of what you said can be categorised under the "I'm not racist because I have black friends" arguement. Which is shit. Did you know one of the heads of the KKK had a black friend? Used to fix his TV. He was still a racist. He was also deranged. We don't have to agree. Do you." That’s a lot of rubbish. Much of what I said is absolutely factual. To hate another race is racist, to not want to sleep with someone from another race because you’re not sexually attracted but treat them the same anywhere else is not racist. I’m not saying we have to agree, we clearly don’t. However I like to debate and challenge opinions it’s refreshing and I can gain knowledge from it. | |||
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" Presumably then you believe that non white parts of the world should be running White history month at the same time ? Do you think highlighting black history is a bad thing? Yes I do. The world has history and that history involved people of all colours, race, sex and religion. Highlighting Black is no less racist or biased than highlighting any of the others, we are all equal. It would be nice now if you answered my question Mark I’ve answered it, you’re welcome to respond. It’s not racist to have a month that highlights history that’s not been taught, it’s not racist to have a St George’s Day of a St Patrick’s Day either. It’s not islamophobic to celebrate Christmas or Thanksgiving. I agree with most of this But "highlights a history that has not been taught" You do relise how much of history has not been taught? Most well read historians will have covered less than 1%of it in a lifetimes work We simply cannot teach all of history, so singling out any particular element of it excludes many others. Theres just too much to learn. Good post though
Obviously we cannot teach all history, but we can give outlets for people to further their knowledge.
That was never done in school, I don’t know about anyone else but I only learnt about slavery in regards to my history in school, I didn’t learn about Black Tudors or Mary Seacole or John Black or many other very influential figures who deserve to be mentioned.
I think there should be a balance. We learn about Tudors in school but didn’t learn about the black ones, we learnt about Florence Nightingale but not Mary Seacole who came before Florence.
We learnt about cowboys,and the American West in secondary school.
I would have preferred British history tbh.
I was born in Africa, and we learned about African history there.
I expect in India they teach Indian history, and in China Chinese history, it doesnt seem unreasonable
But personally i have found many other areas more interesting, the Romans, Genghis, the Tzars,Hannibal, are all things I personally enjoyed learning about and they all vary in origin.
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"That’s a lot of rubbish. Much of what I said is absolutely factual. To hate another race is racist, to not want to sleep with someone from another race because you’re not sexually attracted but treat them the same anywhere else is not racist. I’m not saying we have to agree, we clearly don’t. However I like to debate and challenge opinions it’s refreshing and I can gain knowledge from it. " That's an absurdly narrow definition of racism. To be guilty of imposing racially based biases against people is racist. That's not about hate, it's about ignorance. Plenty of perfectly nice, well intentioned people still do things that are racist, with or without realising it. Just look at examples like job recruitment. Lots and lots of racist bias, some deliberately, but probably most not. Still racist actions though. You still seem to be ignoring the differentiation between your "preference" and the way that is handled. | |||
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"The bending of the knee and the black power fists are ridiculous gestures, they do nothing to improve the lives of black people. Calling anyone racist or bigoted who simply doesn’t have the same mindset as you is equally ridiculous and is very much a leftist ideology. Racism is hatred, it’s horrible. The word should not be used for things that isn’t racism, it waters down the actual meaning and stops the eradication of it as people start to take less notice when the boy cries wolf. " It does though, it is intended to be be a powerful symbol to draw attention to the struggle that all people of colour have faced for thousands of years, the fact you are talking about it shows that it works. Educate yourself | |||
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"That’s a lot of rubbish. Much of what I said is absolutely factual. To hate another race is racist, to not want to sleep with someone from another race because you’re not sexually attracted but treat them the same anywhere else is not racist. I’m not saying we have to agree, we clearly don’t. However I like to debate and challenge opinions it’s refreshing and I can gain knowledge from it. That's an absurdly narrow definition of racism. To be guilty of imposing racially based biases against people is racist. That's not about hate, it's about ignorance. Plenty of perfectly nice, well intentioned people still do things that are racist, with or without realising it. Just look at examples like job recruitment. Lots and lots of racist bias, some deliberately, but probably most not. Still racist actions though. You still seem to be ignoring the differentiation between your "preference" and the way that is handled." There’s a fine line between discrimination, also un-conscious bias. You can’t just label anything to do with race, racism. What am I ignoring? Spell it out... I am more attracted so white men than I am black men, I’ve dated men from plenty of ethnicities. So what am I ignoring about my preference and the way it’s handled? | |||
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"The black power movement in the late 60s early 70s was an extreme movement the used bombs but that’s easily glossed over .... yes there was discrimination against them ... violence never solved a problem. " You try shaking the hand of the man smacking you. Are you seriously telling me with a straight face black power movement was bad? They put families through schools and fought for civil rights????? Any violence was done in response to violence that’s life, shit it’s in the bible. And also it wasn’t an extreme movement, no where near the likes of the IRA, ISIS etc | |||
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"The bending of the knee and the black power fists are ridiculous gestures, they do nothing to improve the lives of black people. Calling anyone racist or bigoted who simply doesn’t have the same mindset as you is equally ridiculous and is very much a leftist ideology. Racism is hatred, it’s horrible. The word should not be used for things that isn’t racism, it waters down the actual meaning and stops the eradication of it as people start to take less notice when the boy cries wolf. " I’d agree with you to some degree, but I’m not one for sentiments and more of a person that judges people by their actions and how they treat me and people around me or just anyone really...but I do think there is something to be said for the symbolism of it which I believe serves as a mark of time in history which people can look back upon if that makes sense. I wouldn’t knock anyone for raising a fist or taking a knee in solidarity...but I’m fully aware of what an empty gesture it can be as well. | |||
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"The bending of the knee and the black power fists are ridiculous gestures, they do nothing to improve the lives of black people. Calling anyone racist or bigoted who simply doesn’t have the same mindset as you is equally ridiculous and is very much a leftist ideology. Racism is hatred, it’s horrible. The word should not be used for things that isn’t racism, it waters down the actual meaning and stops the eradication of it as people start to take less notice when the boy cries wolf. It does though, it is intended to be be a powerful symbol to draw attention to the struggle that all people of colour have faced for thousands of years, the fact you are talking about it shows that it works. Educate yourself " As a black woman I've experienced racism, I’ve experienced colorism too. I’ve seen the effects it can have on others also. So what would you like me to educate myself on? | |||
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"The bending of the knee and the black power fists are ridiculous gestures, they do nothing to improve the lives of black people. Calling anyone racist or bigoted who simply doesn’t have the same mindset as you is equally ridiculous and is very much a leftist ideology. Racism is hatred, it’s horrible. The word should not be used for things that isn’t racism, it waters down the actual meaning and stops the eradication of it as people start to take less notice when the boy cries wolf. I’d agree with you to some degree, but I’m not one for sentiments and more of a person that judges people by their actions and how they treat me and people around me or just anyone really...but I do think there is something to be said for the symbolism of it which I believe serves as a mark of time in history which people can look back upon if that makes sense. I wouldn’t knock anyone for raising a fist or taking a knee in solidarity...but I’m fully aware of what an empty gesture it can be as well. " Yeah, I think thats my train of thought. For most people its an empty gesture, they get up and go straight back to normal life and nothing changes. It’s become a novelty. | |||
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"That’s a lot of rubbish. Much of what I said is absolutely factual. To hate another race is racist, to not want to sleep with someone from another race because you’re not sexually attracted but treat them the same anywhere else is not racist. I’m not saying we have to agree, we clearly don’t. However I like to debate and challenge opinions it’s refreshing and I can gain knowledge from it. That's an absurdly narrow definition of racism. To be guilty of imposing racially based biases against people is racist. That's not about hate, it's about ignorance. Plenty of perfectly nice, well intentioned people still do things that are racist, with or without realising it. Just look at examples like job recruitment. Lots and lots of racist bias, some deliberately, but probably most not. Still racist actions though. You still seem to be ignoring the differentiation between your "preference" and the way that is handled. There’s a fine line between discrimination, also un-conscious bias. You can’t just label anything to do with race, racism. What am I ignoring? Spell it out... I am more attracted so white men than I am black men, I’ve dated men from plenty of ethnicities. So what am I ignoring about my preference and the way it’s handled?" As I said earlier, the point is an overt, elective public statement saying all people of a certain colour can go away is racist. Who you find attractive, and navigating to that endpoint in an intelligent, adult way is, in itself, not. It certainly *CAN* be racist, but it's not inherently the case. I'll admit that for some reason we are unlikely to have any encounters with Indian / Pakistani couples. There is something about the way 95% of men in that bracket look that we find a turn off. I don't know why, and I think about it a lot. I presume it ultimately has to come from cultural stereotypes or something. It's not going to change, but it's still something that intrigues me, and carries a tinge of shame in my mind. But whilst there are guys like Dev Patel out there, they almost never look anything like him on Fab. Despite all that I wouldn't dream of saying "NO ASHUNS GO AWAY" on our profile, as I still wish to treat others with respect and humanity as individuals, rather than just dropping them all in the bin because of their skin colour. | |||
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"That’s a lot of rubbish. Much of what I said is absolutely factual. To hate another race is racist, to not want to sleep with someone from another race because you’re not sexually attracted but treat them the same anywhere else is not racist. I’m not saying we have to agree, we clearly don’t. However I like to debate and challenge opinions it’s refreshing and I can gain knowledge from it. That's an absurdly narrow definition of racism. To be guilty of imposing racially based biases against people is racist. That's not about hate, it's about ignorance. Plenty of perfectly nice, well intentioned people still do things that are racist, with or without realising it. Just look at examples like job recruitment. Lots and lots of racist bias, some deliberately, but probably most not. Still racist actions though. You still seem to be ignoring the differentiation between your "preference" and the way that is handled. There’s a fine line between discrimination, also un-conscious bias. You can’t just label anything to do with race, racism. What am I ignoring? Spell it out... I am more attracted so white men than I am black men, I’ve dated men from plenty of ethnicities. So what am I ignoring about my preference and the way it’s handled? As I said earlier, the point is an overt, elective public statement saying all people of a certain colour can go away is racist. Who you find attractive, and navigating to that endpoint in an intelligent, adult way is, in itself, not. It certainly *CAN* be racist, but it's not inherently the case. I'll admit that for some reason we are unlikely to have any encounters with Indian / Pakistani couples. There is something about the way 95% of men in that bracket look that we find a turn off. I don't know why, and I think about it a lot. I presume it ultimately has to come from cultural stereotypes or something. It's not going to change, but it's still something that intrigues me, and carries a tinge of shame in my mind. But whilst there are guys like Dev Patel out there, they almost never look anything like him on Fab. Despite all that I wouldn't dream of saying "NO ASHUNS GO AWAY" on our profile, as I still wish to treat others with respect and humanity as individuals, rather than just dropping them all in the bin because of their skin colour. " But my profile doesn’t say that. It’s states I’d like to meet like minded white males, it has no mention of who I don’t want to meet. Still, people are free to write what they like on their profiles. You’ve admitted to finding something with Indian/Pakistani people a turn off and yet what I state on my profile you find more of a problem? I’ve not admitted to finding a certain way other races look a turn off... so how is what I write on my profile bad, but what you’ve just said not? :D This reinforces my point you can’t go around calling people racist because of their preferences, you don’t have a racial preference written on your profile but you’ve just admitted to having one... and it’s far more “racist” than what’s on my profile. | |||
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"That’s a lot of rubbish. Much of what I said is absolutely factual. To hate another race is racist, to not want to sleep with someone from another race because you’re not sexually attracted but treat them the same anywhere else is not racist. I’m not saying we have to agree, we clearly don’t. However I like to debate and challenge opinions it’s refreshing and I can gain knowledge from it. That's an absurdly narrow definition of racism. To be guilty of imposing racially based biases against people is racist. That's not about hate, it's about ignorance. Plenty of perfectly nice, well intentioned people still do things that are racist, with or without realising it. Just look at examples like job recruitment. Lots and lots of racist bias, some deliberately, but probably most not. Still racist actions though. You still seem to be ignoring the differentiation between your "preference" and the way that is handled. There’s a fine line between discrimination, also un-conscious bias. You can’t just label anything to do with race, racism. What am I ignoring? Spell it out... I am more attracted so white men than I am black men, I’ve dated men from plenty of ethnicities. So what am I ignoring about my preference and the way it’s handled? As I said earlier, the point is an overt, elective public statement saying all people of a certain colour can go away is racist. Who you find attractive, and navigating to that endpoint in an intelligent, adult way is, in itself, not. It certainly *CAN* be racist, but it's not inherently the case. I'll admit that for some reason we are unlikely to have any encounters with Indian / Pakistani couples. There is something about the way 95% of men in that bracket look that we find a turn off. I don't know why, and I think about it a lot. I presume it ultimately has to come from cultural stereotypes or something. It's not going to change, but it's still something that intrigues me, and carries a tinge of shame in my mind. But whilst there are guys like Dev Patel out there, they almost never look anything like him on Fab. Despite all that I wouldn't dream of saying "NO ASHUNS GO AWAY" on our profile, as I still wish to treat others with respect and humanity as individuals, rather than just dropping them all in the bin because of their skin colour. But my profile doesn’t say that. It’s states I’d like to meet like minded white males, it has no mention of who I don’t want to meet. Still, people are free to write what they like on their profiles. You’ve admitted to finding something with Indian/Pakistani people a turn off and yet what I state on my profile you find more of a problem? I’ve not admitted to finding a certain way other races look a turn off... so how is what I write on my profile bad, but what you’ve just said not? :D This reinforces my point you can’t go around calling people racist because of their preferences, you don’t have a racial preference written on your profile but you’ve just admitted to having one... and it’s far more “racist” than what’s on my profile. " You should get a "whites only sign" for your vagina. | |||
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" As I said earlier, the point is an overt, elective public statement saying all people of a certain colour can go away is racist. Who you find attractive, and navigating to that endpoint in an intelligent, adult way is, in itself, not. It certainly *CAN* be racist, but it's not inherently the case. I'll admit that for some reason we are unlikely to have any encounters with Indian / Pakistani couples. There is something about the way 95% of men in that bracket look that we find a turn off. I don't know why, and I think about it a lot. I presume it ultimately has to come from cultural stereotypes or something. It's not going to change, but it's still something that intrigues me, and carries a tinge of shame in my mind. But whilst there are guys like Dev Patel out there, they almost never look anything like him on Fab. Despite all that I wouldn't dream of saying "NO ASHUNS GO AWAY" on our profile, as I still wish to treat others with respect and humanity as individuals, rather than just dropping them all in the bin because of their skin colour. " Excellent post
I agree we all have preferences, personally I don't believe it's wrong to have preferences relating to race, but so many become defensive when others are trying to have a grown up conversation about it!
Your post highlights the difference between expressing a racial preference sensitively whilst questioning the motives behind it and those who seem to be triumphal about expressing their racial choices! | |||
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"I must say I 1000% agree with this. At the end of the day preference is preference and it SHOULD ALWAYS be respected But being devil's advocate... To rule out a whole race could be seen as extreme because whos to say that you will never meet/cross paths with someone of that race who gives you instant fanny flutters or at least draws your attention. In the mind of those trolls that have a problem with people's preference it may seem as though their looks or personality would never matter and it's simply because of there race/or colour which sounds abit mad and they may feel attacked ahaha lol.(HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING) But still preference is preference and should always be respected " Is this fair? | |||
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"If we say we prefer black guys, thats OK But we if we say we will only play with white guys, thats considered to be racist. The truth is we only find western european guys physically attractive. Its called PREFERENCE nothing sinister just preference, but why are we made to feel its wrong. The only time I will bend my kneee is when the Queen taps me on the shoulder with a sword and adds Sir to my name. Now lets listen to the trolls! G&A I'm confused why you're conflating a racial sexual preference with bending the knee? " 'troll' was used, so I'm assuming that was somehow an association within the proposal | |||
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"The struggle people have with not understanding why determining groups of people, sometimes billion of people they've never seen, let alone met, are "unattractive" based only on their skin colour. Pretty much sums up why society is so fractured. It's sad shit like this still needs explaining to fully grown articulate human beings lmao." I don't want to have sex with Arianna Grande... That not me suggesting she's "unattractive" You are framing it that way, not those with a preference | |||
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" You should get a "whites only sign" for your vagina. Why when my vagina isn’t whites only and never has been?
It was just a joke, when you said "I'm looking for white males" specifically. Just trying to bring light to the tedious subject. "Understood but the point still stands don’t you think? People don’t actually know *why* I say what I say on my profile and don’t think to ask before labelling me... I believe in the freedom of speech and the right to have opinions but I think before labelling people we should always question why... because it’s not always what people think it is. | |||
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"What is the relevance of race to adults having consensual sex. You can't fuck everyone. You pick and choose and if the other person fancies the idea of having sex with you then it's win win for both of you, if not you move on. Life is easy people complicate things." The 'complication' arises from both sides of the conversation. | |||
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" You should get a "whites only sign" for your vagina. Why when my vagina isn’t whites only and never has been?
It was just a joke, when you said "I'm looking for white males" specifically. Just trying to bring light to the tedious subject.
Understood but the point still stands don’t you think?
People don’t actually know *why* I say what I say on my profile and don’t think to ask before labelling me...
I believe in the freedom of speech and the right to have opinions but I think before labelling people we should always question why... because it’s not always what people think it is. "Whose is labelling you specifically? So what if I think you're racist because you don't want to fuck black people? I never would go out of my way to tell you, I'd just avoid you. So you get what you want because my skin is brown. But this thread posed questions, in a forum, where people share their opinions. Freedom of speech isn't freedom from the consequences of speech. This is another fundamental issue people seem to misunderstand. You can say whatever you want, but if somebody calls you out, that's the consequence of your words. Live with it. | |||
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"The struggle people have with not understanding why determining groups of people, sometimes billion of people they've never seen, let alone met, are "unattractive" based only on their skin colour. Pretty much sums up why society is so fractured. It's sad shit like this still needs explaining to fully grown articulate human beings lmao." Personally I also don't understand this particular phenomenon but would defend someone's right to not meet who they choose for any reason. An earlier poster described their racial preferences, whilst acknowledging they didn't particularly regard it as a virtue ,this starts a healthy conversation about race & sex which potentially could be far more interesting than the banner headlines! | |||
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" You should get a "whites only sign" for your vagina. Why when my vagina isn’t whites only and never has been?
It was just a joke, when you said "I'm looking for white males" specifically. Just trying to bring light to the tedious subject.
Understood but the point still stands don’t you think?
People don’t actually know *why* I say what I say on my profile and don’t think to ask before labelling me...
I believe in the freedom of speech and the right to have opinions but I think before labelling people we should always question why... because it’s not always what people think it is.
Whose is labelling you specifically?
So what if I think you're racist because you don't want to fuck black people?
I never would go out of my way to tell you, I'd just avoid you. So you get what you want because my skin is brown.
But this thread posed questions, in a forum, where people share their opinions.
Freedom of speech isn't freedom from the consequences of speech. This is another fundamental issue people seem to misunderstand.
You can say whatever you want, but if somebody calls you out, that's the consequence of your words. Live with it."I never said freedom of speech is freedom from the consequences, I absolutely agree with that. Again, I believe in freedom of speech, but I also think people should challenge and question things before making assumptions. It saves the embarrassment later. | |||
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"The black power movement in the late 60s early 70s was an extreme movement the used bombs but that’s easily glossed over .... yes there was discrimination against them ... violence never solved a problem. You try shaking the hand of the man smacking you. Are you seriously telling me with a straight face black power movement was bad? They put families through schools and fought for civil rights????? Any violence was done in response to violence that’s life, shit it’s in the bible. And also it wasn’t an extreme movement, no where near the likes of the IRA, ISIS etc ". Did they bomb innocent people ??? Aka violence. What did it get them. 50 years on we still having comments on here. As I said. Violence can’t be condoned in any way shape or form. | |||
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" You should get a "whites only sign" for your vagina. Why when my vagina isn’t whites only and never has been?
It was just a joke, when you said "I'm looking for white males" specifically. Just trying to bring light to the tedious subject.
Understood but the point still stands don’t you think?
People don’t actually know *why* I say what I say on my profile and don’t think to ask before labelling me...
I believe in the freedom of speech and the right to have opinions but I think before labelling people we should always question why... because it’s not always what people think it is. "I've no idea what it says on your profile, but the point is that, whatever it says on there, those people you're ruling out have no idea what your "why" is either. That's a pretty fundamental part of why it's a shitty thing to do as you're the one labelling them as unwanted. | |||
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" You should get a "whites only sign" for your vagina. Why when my vagina isn’t whites only and never has been?
It was just a joke, when you said "I'm looking for white males" specifically. Just trying to bring light to the tedious subject.
Understood but the point still stands don’t you think?
People don’t actually know *why* I say what I say on my profile and don’t think to ask before labelling me...
I believe in the freedom of speech and the right to have opinions but I think before labelling people we should always question why... because it’s not always what people think it is.
I've no idea what it says on your profile, but the point is that, whatever it says on there, those people you're ruling out have no idea what your "why" is either. That's a pretty fundamental part of why it's a shitty thing to do as you're the one labelling them as unwanted."I told you... “like minded white males.” And the people who are out of your age range have no idea why you’re ruling them out either. Is that a shitty thing to do also? Regardless of what is on my profile, the opinions and thoughts of people I’m not interested in, don’t interest me... they’re entitled to their views and entitled to seek what they please on here, as am I, as are you. | |||
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"The black power movement in the late 60s early 70s was an extreme movement the used bombs but that’s easily glossed over .... yes there was discrimination against them ... violence never solved a problem. I don't think anyone's trying to gloss over anything however there was no acknowledgment in your post of what precipitated the creation of the Black Power movement in the first place..I'm afraid your statement 'violence never solved anything' is a facile mantra, after all European settlers in the Americas achieved their objectives through violence. Groups like Black Power and BLM were/are simply a reaction to the status quo." So what your saying is black power is the same as BLM ???? I haven’t seen any bombs going off in the name of BLM ????? | |||
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"The black power movement in the late 60s early 70s was an extreme movement the used bombs but that’s easily glossed over .... yes there was discrimination against them ... violence never solved a problem. You try shaking the hand of the man smacking you. Are you seriously telling me with a straight face black power movement was bad? They put families through schools and fought for civil rights????? Any violence was done in response to violence that’s life, shit it’s in the bible. And also it wasn’t an extreme movement, no where near the likes of the IRA, ISIS etc . Did they bomb innocent people ??? Aka violence. What did it get them. 50 years on we still having comments on here. As I said. Violence can’t be condoned in any way shape or form. "Could you speculate on how things might have been better for Black Americans without direct action? | |||
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"The black power movement in the late 60s early 70s was an extreme movement the used bombs but that’s easily glossed over .... yes there was discrimination against them ... violence never solved a problem. I don't think anyone's trying to gloss over anything however there was no acknowledgment in your post of what precipitated the creation of the Black Power movement in the first place..I'm afraid your statement 'violence never solved anything' is a facile mantra, after all European settlers in the Americas achieved their objectives through violence. Groups like Black Power and BLM were/are simply a reaction to the status quo. So what your saying is black power is the same as BLM ???? I haven’t seen any bombs going off in the name of BLM ????? " No, I was saying the BLM group are a reaction to the status quo. | |||
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"Groups like Black Power and BLM were/are simply a reaction to the status quo. Spot on that is why people who oppose equality etc have to make up nonsense like "George Soros create BLM" because to accept that BLM exists as a reaction is to in a sense justify it. So they dust the tinfoil hat off, start ranting about the left and ignore the suffering people are trying to highlight in favour of some Contrarian bullshit." Bit of a blanket statement. I don't oppose equality, but I oppose the BLM organisation. I'm fine with the sentiment, but the blm org manifesto has little to do with black lives. The blm riots in America seemed to have achieved very little other than damaging lots of property and businesses (predominantly in black areas!!) Rioting is never good imo | |||
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Here's a better idea, nobody's your brother just because you share a skin tone, in fact it's entirely possible to be actually brothers and not share a skin tone.
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" Bit of a blanket statement. I don't oppose equality, but I oppose the BLM organisation. I'm fine with the sentiment, but the blm org manifesto has little to do with black lives. The blm riots in America seemed to have achieved very little other than damaging lots of property and businesses (predominantly in black areas!!) Rioting is never good imo " In fairness the BLM 'manifesto' widely circulated last month was exposed by Snopes as a fake document, created to discredit the movement. | |||
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"The black power movement in the late 60s early 70s was an extreme movement the used bombs but that’s easily glossed over .... yes there was discrimination against them ... violence never solved a problem. You try shaking the hand of the man smacking you. Are you seriously telling me with a straight face black power movement was bad? They put families through schools and fought for civil rights????? Any violence was done in response to violence that’s life, shit it’s in the bible. And also it wasn’t an extreme movement, no where near the likes of the IRA, ISIS etc . Did they bomb innocent people ??? Aka violence. What did it get them. 50 years on we still having comments on here. As I said. Violence can’t be condoned in any way shape or form.
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" Bit of a blanket statement. I don't oppose equality, but I oppose the BLM organisation. I'm fine with the sentiment, but the blm org manifesto has little to do with black lives. The blm riots in America seemed to have achieved very little other than damaging lots of property and businesses (predominantly in black areas!!) Rioting is never good imo In fairness the BLM 'manifesto' widely circulated last month was exposed by Snopes as a fake document, created to discredit the movement." So what about the one on their Twitter page and web page that I saw with my own eyes that stated they wanted to defund the police, and disrupt the western prescribed nuclear family? | |||
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