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"Have they ALWAYS been a thing? Did people in the 60's,70's obsess about being lied to by the government, disagree with vaccines,think there was some freaky ulterior motive to everything? Every day I read so much bullshit that people have no evidence to back up and it just makes me so sad. Unfortunately yes they have always been a thing. However since the advent of the internet, they have been able to spread rapidly to all corners of the globe so the issue is now much worse than historically. " This | |||
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"What’s the most outlandish one you have heard ? " I can't pick one, they are all as nuts as each other.... | |||
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"What’s the most outlandish one you have heard ? I can't pick one, they are all as nuts as each other...." some make interesting reading/viewing | |||
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"What’s the most outlandish one you have heard ? I can't pick one, they are all as nuts as each other.... some make interesting reading/viewing " Let's not share specifics, thus not perpetuating them any more. | |||
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"What’s the most outlandish one you have heard ? I can't pick one, they are all as nuts as each other.... some make interesting reading/viewing " None of them make interesting reading though, if just one person reads rubbish and believes it then there is a risk,and that's not fair. | |||
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"What’s the most outlandish one you have heard ? I can't pick one, they are all as nuts as each other.... some make interesting reading/viewing None of them make interesting reading though, if just one person reads rubbish and believes it then there is a risk,and that's not fair. " that’s your opinion I’ve watched/read some interesting /different views on things | |||
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"Have they ALWAYS been a thing? Did people in the 60's,70's obsess about being lied to by the government, disagree with vaccines,think there was some freaky ulterior motive to everything? Every day I read so much bullshit that people have no evidence to back up and it just makes me so sad." Well yeah there is some crazy stuff bandied about. But governments lying to us, well that's standard, and if they didn't then maybe some people wouldn't get sucked into believing the outlandish stuff, The stuff that went on when Hoover was head of the FBI, the stuff that wikileaks has released all prove that government lying and underhanded use of powers on their own populations more than prove the amount of lies and propaganda our politicians use. Some, although admittedly small amount, have been proved to be true. So while it's easy to dismiss stuff as a conspiracy theory, some will be dismissed as conspiracy theories to continue a cover story. | |||
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"So does anyone know why it happens? Why does there always have to be an ulterior motive or alternative story? " Mostly because people like to feel they know more than other people. Someone "let's someone in on a secret they heard" people don't keep it to themselves cause they like being able to let other "trusted people" in on what they know and so it snowballs. Plus, if you have ever played Chinese whispers (yes I appreciate the irony in the current situation) you'll know how details can change as something it verbally conveyed, mis remembered or sometimes deliberately jazzed up. Some are just flat out extortion though, people tricking gullible people into helping them with a cause. This is pretty much how most cults come about. | |||
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"Have they ALWAYS been a thing? Did people in the 60's,70's obsess about being lied to by the government, disagree with vaccines,think there was some freaky ulterior motive to everything? Every day I read so much bullshit that people have no evidence to back up and it just makes me so sad." Oh god yes that was the best time for conspiracies. Roswell was still a hot topic. The conspiracies around the Vietnam war were huge. Mk ultra, which turned out to be true. The issue in the modern space is the internet. More conspiracies have a larger audience. Flat earthers are a new thing but government and religious entities have always muddled information with misinformation to keep us guessing. Some conspiracies turn out to be true but if you muddy up the information with the crazy tinfoil hat people, controlling that information is easier. | |||
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"Have they ALWAYS been a thing? Did people in the 60's,70's obsess about being lied to by the government, disagree with vaccines,think there was some freaky ulterior motive to everything? Every day I read so much bullshit that people have no evidence to back up and it just makes me so sad. Well yeah there is some crazy stuff bandied about. But governments lying to us, well that's standard, and if they didn't then maybe some people wouldn't get sucked into believing the outlandish stuff, The stuff that went on when Hoover was head of the FBI, the stuff that wikileaks has released all prove that government lying and underhanded use of powers on their own populations more than prove the amount of lies and propaganda our politicians use. Some, although admittedly small amount, have been proved to be true. So while it's easy to dismiss stuff as a conspiracy theory, some will be dismissed as conspiracy theories to continue a cover story. " Governments are definitely not blameless, as you say, if they didn't lie sometimes then it would be harder for people to disbelieve them. However, some of the utter garbage that circulates and people swallow hook line and sinker literally baffles me how people fall for it. | |||
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"So does anyone know why it happens? Why does there always have to be an ulterior motive or alternative story? " I think in this particular case mainly it’s about providing reason to what is ultimately incredibly self serving behaviour at potentially others expense. There are some that just appear delusional and attention seeking but in the main it’s positioning breaking rules as a general need rather than a personal choice. The number of justifications to why lockdown should be ignored, why we should go ahead with a swinging _estival, why we should all laugh about adding more people to our sexual oh I mean social bubble is just tiresome... it’s nothing more than a smokescreen to the fact that they can’t just say I’m a selfish tw@t and I don’t care about the impact on others. I’m sure they all clapped the NHS for the purpose of their Facebook timelines a few months back... but, time to move on as there’s nothing to gain from that now. | |||
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"So does anyone know why it happens? Why does there always have to be an ulterior motive or alternative story? Mostly because people like to feel they know more than other people. Someone "let's someone in on a secret they heard" people don't keep it to themselves cause they like being able to let other "trusted people" in on what they know and so it snowballs. Plus, if you have ever played Chinese whispers (yes I appreciate the irony in the current situation) you'll know how details can change as something it verbally conveyed, mis remembered or sometimes deliberately jazzed up. Some are just flat out extortion though, people tricking gullible people into helping them with a cause. This is pretty much how most cults come about. " I saw an interesting article ages ago, linked on Science Based Medicine (I think it was a David Gorski post but I'm not 100% sure) on the psychology of conspiracy theories. | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all?" Ooh yes | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all?" How could I forget that one ! | |||
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"So does anyone know why it happens? Why does there always have to be an ulterior motive or alternative story? " Do you blindly believe everything the government and similar organisations tell you ? Like anything in life there are nutters like the flat earth people who say that the authorities are lying, genuine people who honestly believe there are conspiracies and attention seekers. A group of us used to pick a subject the week before then meet in the pub and one person had to make out it was a conspiracy and put his/her case Always good fun | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all? How could I forget that one ! " The question was not if you could remember it | |||
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"No ones mentioned that little event about the moon... Did we land on it or didn't we... If we did why can't a satalite or one of our telescopes see the debris like the luns rover that was left behind? " There are images of the landing site on NASA website (conspiracy theory if people believe they rigged those as well) I don't think we have powerful enough telescopes to see small detail that far away ? My guess is an alien pinched the "rover" and quickly sold it on to another planet after regular trips to the garage. | |||
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"No ones mentioned that little event about the moon... Did we land on it or didn't we... If we did why can't a satalite or one of our telescopes see the debris like the luns rover that was left behind? " hope this helps... https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-resources/astronomy-questions-answers/can-you-see-astronauts-on-the-moon/ | |||
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"Have they ALWAYS been a thing? Did people in the 60's,70's obsess about being lied to by the government, disagree with vaccines,think there was some freaky ulterior motive to everything? Every day I read so much bullshit that people have no evidence to back up and it just makes me so sad. Well yeah there is some crazy stuff bandied about. But governments lying to us, well that's standard, and if they didn't then maybe some people wouldn't get sucked into believing the outlandish stuff, The stuff that went on when Hoover was head of the FBI, the stuff that wikileaks has released all prove that government lying and underhanded use of powers on their own populations more than prove the amount of lies and propaganda our politicians use. Some, although admittedly small amount, have been proved to be true. So while it's easy to dismiss stuff as a conspiracy theory, some will be dismissed as conspiracy theories to continue a cover story. " Spot on. Stuff like that 30 year rule thing doesn't help. | |||
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"I didn't understand the basic meaning of the words. Sometimes it seems like someone calls something a conspiracy theory if it just is a different opinion to theirs. If a person doesn't believe the majority opinion, all questions the news that is being fed to them they may get called it conspiracy theorist, it might not be that it might be they just have a different point of view or am I misunderstanding it?" I'm not talking about a difference of opinion, in this case I'm referring to things like....the virus was made in a lab, microchips in vaccines to name a couple... When the science says otherwise. I never have an issue with people having a different opinion to me, I think it's a good thing and am happy to learn facts if I'm wrong but when things are said that are detrimental to people's welfare,it makes me question why. | |||
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"Have they ALWAYS been a thing? Did people in the 60's,70's obsess about being lied to by the government, disagree with vaccines,think there was some freaky ulterior motive to everything? Every day I read so much bullshit that people have no evidence to back up and it just makes me so sad. Oh god yes that was the best time for conspiracies. Roswell was still a hot topic. The conspiracies around the Vietnam war were huge. Mk ultra, which turned out to be true. The issue in the modern space is the internet. More conspiracies have a larger audience. Flat earthers are a new thing but government and religious entities have always muddled information with misinformation to keep us guessing. Some conspiracies turn out to be true but if you muddy up the information with the crazy tinfoil hat people, controlling that information is easier." The Vietnam war ones are most likely true, the documents are out there proving the US Government sent kids to die knowing it was an unwinnable war. Plus the fact successive presidents denied bombing campaigns that were happening and that they had troops on the ground, before they told the US public they had, and then came Nixon and all of his mistruths.... | |||
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"Have they ALWAYS been a thing? Did people in the 60's,70's obsess about being lied to by the government, disagree with vaccines,think there was some freaky ulterior motive to everything? Every day I read so much bullshit that people have no evidence to back up and it just makes me so sad. Oh god yes that was the best time for conspiracies. Roswell was still a hot topic. The conspiracies around the Vietnam war were huge. Mk ultra, which turned out to be true. The issue in the modern space is the internet. More conspiracies have a larger audience. Flat earthers are a new thing but government and religious entities have always muddled information with misinformation to keep us guessing. Some conspiracies turn out to be true but if you muddy up the information with the crazy tinfoil hat people, controlling that information is easier. The Vietnam war ones are most likely true, the documents are out there proving the US Government sent kids to die knowing it was an unwinnable war. Plus the fact successive presidents denied bombing campaigns that were happening and that they had troops on the ground, before they told the US public they had, and then came Nixon and all of his mistruths...." Not sure if they knew it was unwinnsble but I think they lied about bombing raids,chemical weapons etc. All countries do it..us as much as anyone so people are bound to come up with wacky theories. | |||
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"Have they ALWAYS been a thing? Did people in the 60's,70's obsess about being lied to by the government, disagree with vaccines,think there was some freaky ulterior motive to everything? Every day I read so much bullshit that people have no evidence to back up and it just makes me so sad." Not really although there was a lot of conspiracy theories when Kennedy got shot and man went to the moon. Of course we did not have the internet and we where better educated about the world,well I was | |||
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"Area 51 etc etc " That one makes me chuckle. I'd put up a big fence round Area 51 to keep everyone occupied and then... store all my secret shit in Area 52... | |||
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" I saw an interesting article ages ago, linked on Science Based Medicine (I think it was a David Gorski post but I'm not 100% sure) on the psychology of conspiracy theories." 200 cool points to you for mentioning both SBM and DG | |||
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"I think some of you are in for a huge awakening soon. Remember this a conspiracy theory is only theory until its not. 30 or 40 years ago if someone had said "hey that guy on tv that is always helping people and doing good for chairty, yeah that jimmy saville guy, well hes a pedaphile and abuses lil kids" People would have said nonsense go away you conspiracy theorist. Now let's go back hmmm say 5-10 years. If someone said "royalty, presidents, top hollywoood actors,directors,producers, high office politicians and bankers are all involved in peadaphilia and child trafficking" People would say and some will still say oh go away you conspiracy theorist. And yet here we are today, jeffery epstein and his lolita express jet and his pedo island has names from all the above groups on flight manfestos on his jet to his island and when gislene maxwells case comes around next july if she isnt suicided by then ofcourse then everything is going to explode wide open. Also i would highly recommend that anyone that hasnt watched the new documentary (came out couple months ago) called *out of shadows* yet then you really should. Its run time is a little over an hour and 15 mins and its worth every last minite. Maybe checkout the 2 min trailer for it first to see if it piques your interest. Its a huge red pill for opening up eyes, hearts and minds to whats really going on. Have a great day. " People putting microchips in vaccines and 5G controlling Corona virus is a conspiracy theory and utter fantasy. | |||
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"I think some of you are in for a huge awakening soon. Remember this a conspiracy theory is only theory until its not. 30 or 40 years ago if someone had said "hey that guy on tv that is always helping people and doing good for chairty, yeah that jimmy saville guy, well hes a pedaphile and abuses lil kids" People would have said nonsense go away you conspiracy theorist. Now let's go back hmmm say 5-10 years. If someone said "royalty, presidents, top hollywoood actors,directors,producers, high office politicians and bankers are all involved in peadaphilia and child trafficking" People would say and some will still say oh go away you conspiracy theorist. And yet here we are today, jeffery epstein and his lolita express jet and his pedo island has names from all the above groups on flight manfestos on his jet to his island and when gislene maxwells case comes around next july if she isnt suicided by then ofcourse then everything is going to explode wide open. Also i would highly recommend that anyone that hasnt watched the new documentary (came out couple months ago) called *out of shadows* yet then you really should. Its run time is a little over an hour and 15 mins and its worth every last minite. Maybe checkout the 2 min trailer for it first to see if it piques your interest. Its a huge red pill for opening up eyes, hearts and minds to whats really going on. Have a great day. " Well said | |||
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"I feel sorry for the sheepies ...baaaaaaaa" That's not exactly a convincing argument is it. Not believing complete gibberish doesn't make someone a sheep. People committing crimes is always a possibility, a chip in a vaccine manages to ignore common sense, logic, evidence and science all at the same time. | |||
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"Conspiracy theories unfortunately get fueled by either a lack of knowledge or an actual answer to solve the mystery. Most Governments have facilities similar to Area 51 just usually not on that scale or having the same level of infamy. Governments don't exactly tell you what goes on, on military bases and their research as they don't want other countries knowing. In the US case Russia and China. The sad thing is, even if the US decided to tell people everything about Area 51, people would still think the answer was a lie or cover up. Most likely it's a research and test centre for new types of aircraft. The US stealth bombers when first flown were mistaken for UFOs. Even now some of their working parameters are still classified information. " Gmnts lie about all type of stuff,why do you think they redact documents for 30 years?So when they do come out everyone is involved is dead. Under Thatcher there was a proposal that liverpool be left to 'managed decline ' They were prepared to let one its cities die.If anyone would have claimed this at the time ,they would have been laughed at..30 years later it barely caused a ripple. Sone conspiracy theories are crackers.Some are true. Maybe if we were not consistently lied too,we would be better informed. | |||
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"Being lied to by politicians is hardly a conspiracy theory. Polit6icians telling the truth, now that's a conspiracy theory " Depends what they are lying about. | |||
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"Conspiracy theories unfortunately get fueled by either a lack of knowledge or an actual answer to solve the mystery. Most Governments have facilities similar to Area 51 just usually not on that scale or having the same level of infamy. Governments don't exactly tell you what goes on, on military bases and their research as they don't want other countries knowing. In the US case Russia and China. The sad thing is, even if the US decided to tell people everything about Area 51, people would still think the answer was a lie or cover up. Most likely it's a research and test centre for new types of aircraft. The US stealth bombers when first flown were mistaken for UFOs. Even now some of their working parameters are still classified information. Gmnts lie about all type of stuff,why do you think they redact documents for 30 years?So when they do come out everyone is involved is dead. Under Thatcher there was a proposal that liverpool be left to 'managed decline ' They were prepared to let one its cities die.If anyone would have claimed this at the time ,they would have been laughed at..30 years later it barely caused a ripple. Sone conspiracy theories are crackers.Some are true. Maybe if we were not consistently lied too,we would be better informed. " Thatcher will go down in history as the most reviled and evil dictator in UK history, she counted her friends such as Pinochet and others corrupt leaders while at the same time labeled Mandela a terrorist, she was complicit in the Hillsborough cover up, she protected her colleagues like Cyril Smyth from exposure in disgusting crimes. She was not a good or decent person, and her family go somewhere to acknowledging this as their reluctance to sanction a proposed statue of her | |||
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"No ones mentioned that little event about the moon... Did we land on it or didn't we... If we did why can't a satalite or one of our telescopes see the debris like the luns rover that was left behind? " They can and do! | |||
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"Have to admit though....have you ecer examined your own beliefs? We have witnesses first hand how the governemnt have been lying to us in the last 15-20 years Iraq weapons of mass destruction. Brexit 250million a day to nhs. Death rates with covid but not due to covid or even not been avtually tested. Double counting of tests. No money for ppe but money for mp salary rises. Back in march they said mask would cause more problems. So... if it wasnt for our ability to find info ...they could gotten away with all their lies. Could they have lied in the past? 911? How did building 7 collapse. That didnt have a plane hitting it. Moon landing. Have you seen that thing that took off from the moon flew all the way back and they lost this aircraft? Not only that they lost all recording of the event? Mankind most famoud accomplishment and the lost it and now nasa saysbthey cannot go back?! Youve heard of crisis actors. There was one quite recent . The man who was on one of the cruiseships that got hit and quarantined due to cv19. There are countless of images of crisis actors appearing in various events. Theae school shootings could have been staged. Go back further and examin where and how you first heard about an event or news.. JFK.. could that have been staged? Dont need to ask why yet... just is it possible? When you say "evidence".. what evidence do you expect and or accept? " OMG!! Iraq was Bliar lying to suck up to USA...known by most at the time £250 million on bus....exposed as contorting stats from day one. Masks...WHO advice changed gradually as more understanding of this virus Moon landing....you are simply wrong on that one! Staged school shootings? You must be taking the piss on that one as so many mobile phone images all over the place! Most of these aren't EVEN conspiracy theories! | |||
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"No ones mentioned that little event about the moon... Did we land on it or didn't we... If we did why can't a satalite or one of our telescopes see the debris like the luns rover that was left behind? " They have. | |||
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"Have to admit though....have you ecer examined your own beliefs? We have witnesses first hand how the governemnt have been lying to us in the last 15-20 years Iraq weapons of mass destruction. Brexit 250million a day to nhs. Death rates with covid but not due to covid or even not been avtually tested. Double counting of tests. No money for ppe but money for mp salary rises. Back in march they said mask would cause more problems. So... if it wasnt for our ability to find info ...they could gotten away with all their lies. Could they have lied in the past? 911? How did building 7 collapse. That didnt have a plane hitting it. Moon landing. Have you seen that thing that took off from the moon flew all the way back and they lost this aircraft? Not only that they lost all recording of the event? Mankind most famoud accomplishment and the lost it and now nasa saysbthey cannot go back?! Youve heard of crisis actors. There was one quite recent . The man who was on one of the cruiseships that got hit and quarantined due to cv19. There are countless of images of crisis actors appearing in various events. Theae school shootings could have been staged. Go back further and examin where and how you first heard about an event or news.. JFK.. could that have been staged? Dont need to ask why yet... just is it possible? When you say "evidence".. what evidence do you expect and or accept? " I think your tin foil headwear is a bit tight. Most of those are fairly easily disproved. Like a lot of tropes some may have some truth in them. | |||
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"Have to admit though....have you ecer examined your own beliefs? We have witnesses first hand how the governemnt have been lying to us in the last 15-20 years Iraq weapons of mass destruction. Brexit 250million a day to nhs. Death rates with covid but not due to covid or even not been avtually tested. Double counting of tests. No money for ppe but money for mp salary rises. Back in march they said mask would cause more problems. So... if it wasnt for our ability to find info ...they could gotten away with all their lies. Could they have lied in the past? 911? How did building 7 collapse. That didnt have a plane hitting it. Moon landing. Have you seen that thing that took off from the moon flew all the way back and they lost this aircraft? Not only that they lost all recording of the event? Mankind most famoud accomplishment and the lost it and now nasa saysbthey cannot go back?! Youve heard of crisis actors. There was one quite recent . The man who was on one of the cruiseships that got hit and quarantined due to cv19. There are countless of images of crisis actors appearing in various events. Theae school shootings could have been staged. Go back further and examin where and how you first heard about an event or news.. JFK.. could that have been staged? Dont need to ask why yet... just is it possible? When you say "evidence".. what evidence do you expect and or accept? " I expect credible evidence that will stand up to vigorous interrogation. The mistake many conspiracy theorists and government ministers make is in underestimating the power that many of us have to think for ourselves. Conspiracy theorists and "the authorities" are two sides of the same coin. They're both trying to sell us their version of events. | |||
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"I feel sorry for the sheepies ...baaaaaaaa That's not exactly a convincing argument is it. Not believing complete gibberish doesn't make someone a sheep. People committing crimes is always a possibility, a chip in a vaccine manages to ignore common sense, logic, evidence and science all at the same time." Common sense according to who? Do you have evidence that there are NO chips in vaccines? Of course you don't. Because nobody really knows what's true and what's not. Could it be possible they have the technology to do it? Yes,it's possible! Is it likely they'd do it? I don't know...but if they could,then why wouldn't they? Its generally accepted that governments have research facilities that are top secret. What are they doing behind closed doors? Well,that's a secret! So in theory,they COULD be making chips for vaccines, developing viruses to release on the world and a whole host of other things we know absolutely nothing about!! I'm not a conspiracy theory fan at all btw,but I do question everything. And I don't believe for one second that any government truly has its people's best interests at heart. IMO some conspiracy theories will be true,some will be bullshit but the worst thing you can do is dismiss EVERYTHING as a conspiracy. | |||
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"Have to admit though....have you ecer examined your own beliefs? We have witnesses first hand how the governemnt have been lying to us in the last 15-20 years Iraq weapons of mass destruction. Brexit 250million a day to nhs. Death rates with covid but not due to covid or even not been avtually tested. Double counting of tests. No money for ppe but money for mp salary rises. Back in march they said mask would cause more problems. So... if it wasnt for our ability to find info ...they could gotten away with all their lies. Could they have lied in the past? 911? How did building 7 collapse. That didnt have a plane hitting it. Moon landing. Have you seen that thing that took off from the moon flew all the way back and they lost this aircraft? Not only that they lost all recording of the event? Mankind most famoud accomplishment and the lost it and now nasa saysbthey cannot go back?! Youve heard of crisis actors. There was one quite recent . The man who was on one of the cruiseships that got hit and quarantined due to cv19. There are countless of images of crisis actors appearing in various events. Theae school shootings could have been staged. Go back further and examin where and how you first heard about an event or news.. JFK.. could that have been staged? Dont need to ask why yet... just is it possible? When you say "evidence".. what evidence do you expect and or accept? I think your tin foil headwear is a bit tight. Most of those are fairly easily disproved. Like a lot of tropes some may have some truth in them." Perhaps. Perhaps others are denial. Perhaps people enjoy being lied to. Repeatedly. Brainwashed to obey. | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all?" There is A LOT JFK Moon Landing The Clintons 9/11 Illuminati Flat Earth Diana’s Murder Roswell Satanic Cults lead by the worlds Elite Any time there is a mass shooting, it happens around critical times in america in Congress etc so they put them together. And the list goes on | |||
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"I feel sorry for the sheepies ...baaaaaaaa That's not exactly a convincing argument is it. Not believing complete gibberish doesn't make someone a sheep. People committing crimes is always a possibility, a chip in a vaccine manages to ignore common sense, logic, evidence and science all at the same time. Common sense according to who? Do you have evidence that there are NO chips in vaccines? Of course you don't. Because nobody really knows what's true and what's not. Could it be possible they have the technology to do it? Yes,it's possible! Is it likely they'd do it? I don't know...but if they could,then why wouldn't they? Its generally accepted that governments have research facilities that are top secret. What are they doing behind closed doors? Well,that's a secret! So in theory,they COULD be making chips for vaccines, developing viruses to release on the world and a whole host of other things we know absolutely nothing about!! I'm not a conspiracy theory fan at all btw,but I do question everything. And I don't believe for one second that any government truly has its people's best interests at heart. IMO some conspiracy theories will be true,some will be bullshit but the worst thing you can do is dismiss EVERYTHING as a conspiracy. " If you have any real understanding of how electronics work, you would know that injecting a chip would do nothing to people apart from possibly kill them if if it was an intravenous injection. Even RFID chips that can be implanted (which are passive by the way) require a surgical procedure and careful placement or they don't work. It would literally be the same as shoving the TV remote up someone's arse and expecting them to be able to change the channel with their mind. Then there would be the small matter of everyone walking around with the evidence inside them. Can't imagine that would take more than a few days for someone to find it and be able to produce actual evidence, you know, that thing that is completely missing from this particular current farce. | |||
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"I feel sorry for the sheepies ...baaaaaaaa That's not exactly a convincing argument is it. Not believing complete gibberish doesn't make someone a sheep. People committing crimes is always a possibility, a chip in a vaccine manages to ignore common sense, logic, evidence and science all at the same time. Common sense according to who? Do you have evidence that there are NO chips in vaccines? Of course you don't. Because nobody really knows what's true and what's not. Could it be possible they have the technology to do it? Yes,it's possible! Is it likely they'd do it? I don't know...but if they could,then why wouldn't they? Its generally accepted that governments have research facilities that are top secret. What are they doing behind closed doors? Well,that's a secret! So in theory,they COULD be making chips for vaccines, developing viruses to release on the world and a whole host of other things we know absolutely nothing about!! I'm not a conspiracy theory fan at all btw,but I do question everything. And I don't believe for one second that any government truly has its people's best interests at heart. IMO some conspiracy theories will be true,some will be bullshit but the worst thing you can do is dismiss EVERYTHING as a conspiracy. If you have any real understanding of how electronics work, you would know that injecting a chip would do nothing to people apart from possibly kill them if if it was an intravenous injection. Even RFID chips that can be implanted (which are passive by the way) require a surgical procedure and careful placement or they don't work. It would literally be the same as shoving the TV remote up someone's arse and expecting them to be able to change the channel with their mind. Then there would be the small matter of everyone walking around with the evidence inside them. Can't imagine that would take more than a few days for someone to find it and be able to produce actual evidence, you know, that thing that is completely missing from this particular current farce." I have no idea how much more complex that chips they are talking about would be, but my cats all have chips in them. | |||
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"I feel sorry for the sheepies ...baaaaaaaa That's not exactly a convincing argument is it. Not believing complete gibberish doesn't make someone a sheep. People committing crimes is always a possibility, a chip in a vaccine manages to ignore common sense, logic, evidence and science all at the same time. Common sense according to who? Do you have evidence that there are NO chips in vaccines? Of course you don't. Because nobody really knows what's true and what's not. Could it be possible they have the technology to do it? Yes,it's possible! Is it likely they'd do it? I don't know...but if they could,then why wouldn't they? Its generally accepted that governments have research facilities that are top secret. What are they doing behind closed doors? Well,that's a secret! So in theory,they COULD be making chips for vaccines, developing viruses to release on the world and a whole host of other things we know absolutely nothing about!! I'm not a conspiracy theory fan at all btw,but I do question everything. And I don't believe for one second that any government truly has its people's best interests at heart. IMO some conspiracy theories will be true,some will be bullshit but the worst thing you can do is dismiss EVERYTHING as a conspiracy. If you have any real understanding of how electronics work, you would know that injecting a chip would do nothing to people apart from possibly kill them if if it was an intravenous injection. Even RFID chips that can be implanted (which are passive by the way) require a surgical procedure and careful placement or they don't work. It would literally be the same as shoving the TV remote up someone's arse and expecting them to be able to change the channel with their mind. Then there would be the small matter of everyone walking around with the evidence inside them. Can't imagine that would take more than a few days for someone to find it and be able to produce actual evidence, you know, that thing that is completely missing from this particular current farce. I have no idea how much more complex that chips they are talking about would be, but my cats all have chips in them." How does the vet check they're still tnere? | |||
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"I feel sorry for the sheepies ...baaaaaaaa That's not exactly a convincing argument is it. Not believing complete gibberish doesn't make someone a sheep. People committing crimes is always a possibility, a chip in a vaccine manages to ignore common sense, logic, evidence and science all at the same time. Common sense according to who? Do you have evidence that there are NO chips in vaccines? Of course you don't. Because nobody really knows what's true and what's not. Could it be possible they have the technology to do it? Yes,it's possible! Is it likely they'd do it? I don't know...but if they could,then why wouldn't they? Its generally accepted that governments have research facilities that are top secret. What are they doing behind closed doors? Well,that's a secret! So in theory,they COULD be making chips for vaccines, developing viruses to release on the world and a whole host of other things we know absolutely nothing about!! I'm not a conspiracy theory fan at all btw,but I do question everything. And I don't believe for one second that any government truly has its people's best interests at heart. IMO some conspiracy theories will be true,some will be bullshit but the worst thing you can do is dismiss EVERYTHING as a conspiracy. If you have any real understanding of how electronics work, you would know that injecting a chip would do nothing to people apart from possibly kill them if if it was an intravenous injection. Even RFID chips that can be implanted (which are passive by the way) require a surgical procedure and careful placement or they don't work. It would literally be the same as shoving the TV remote up someone's arse and expecting them to be able to change the channel with their mind. Then there would be the small matter of everyone walking around with the evidence inside them. Can't imagine that would take more than a few days for someone to find it and be able to produce actual evidence, you know, that thing that is completely missing from this particular current farce. I have no idea how much more complex that chips they are talking about would be, but my cats all have chips in them." Yes, they are passive RFID chips preset with a number. They are not externally reprogrammable, they cannot control the cat in any way. They are also injected with a massive needle (in comparison to normal medical needles hence why they put them in the loose skin on the scruff of the neck). There is also the small matter that they are big enough to be clearly visible to the naked eye. | |||
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"I feel sorry for the sheepies ...baaaaaaaa That's not exactly a convincing argument is it. Not believing complete gibberish doesn't make someone a sheep. People committing crimes is always a possibility, a chip in a vaccine manages to ignore common sense, logic, evidence and science all at the same time. Common sense according to who? Do you have evidence that there are NO chips in vaccines? Of course you don't. Because nobody really knows what's true and what's not. Could it be possible they have the technology to do it? Yes,it's possible! Is it likely they'd do it? I don't know...but if they could,then why wouldn't they? Its generally accepted that governments have research facilities that are top secret. What are they doing behind closed doors? Well,that's a secret! So in theory,they COULD be making chips for vaccines, developing viruses to release on the world and a whole host of other things we know absolutely nothing about!! I'm not a conspiracy theory fan at all btw,but I do question everything. And I don't believe for one second that any government truly has its people's best interests at heart. IMO some conspiracy theories will be true,some will be bullshit but the worst thing you can do is dismiss EVERYTHING as a conspiracy. If you have any real understanding of how electronics work, you would know that injecting a chip would do nothing to people apart from possibly kill them if if it was an intravenous injection. Even RFID chips that can be implanted (which are passive by the way) require a surgical procedure and careful placement or they don't work. It would literally be the same as shoving the TV remote up someone's arse and expecting them to be able to change the channel with their mind. Then there would be the small matter of everyone walking around with the evidence inside them. Can't imagine that would take more than a few days for someone to find it and be able to produce actual evidence, you know, that thing that is completely missing from this particular current farce. I have no idea how much more complex that chips they are talking about would be, but my cats all have chips in them." A microchip for a dog or cat just gives access to a unique reference number once scanned, it can't track the animal in any way and is active for around 20 years. | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all? There is A LOT JFK Moon Landing The Clintons 9/11 Illuminati Flat Earth Diana’s Murder Roswell Satanic Cults lead by the worlds Elite Any time there is a mass shooting, it happens around critical times in america in Congress etc so they put them together. And the list goes on " Yes pretty all of it guff. I will deal with mass shootings in the US being planned by congress or whoever. In 2019 there were 434 mass shootings in the US. Do congress have that many critical times? | |||
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"Maybe....according to the theorists.....these chips are: Really really tiny Invisible In liquid form Capable of travelling to your brain and controlling you But hey....why let science credibility and the laws of physics get in the way of their "truth"?" You mean, basically the Borg in Startrek. | |||
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" I have no idea how much more complex that chips they are talking about would be, but my cats all have chips in them. How does the vet check they're still tnere? " They're RFID chips, so a proximity reader - any further away than an inch or so and you won't read them. That's why you can't use them to find out where your pet has run off to. | |||
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" I have no idea how much more complex that chips they are talking about would be, but my cats all have chips in them. How does the vet check they're still tnere? They're RFID chips, so a proximity reader - any further away than an inch or so and you won't read them. That's why you can't use them to find out where your pet has run off to. " It was reported 2days ago that vaccine companies are teaming up with masterdcard. Of course tin foil hat wearers already talked about this in february . Mentioning the likes of ID2020 INDIA HAD THESE IN PLACE SINCE 2018! MILLIONS were trialed on and so was bangladesh. Conspiracy to chip us all? No... Its forward planning. I You can find documents quite readily. Just like how the WHO wants to teach 4 year olds to touch themselves... Again... It comes straight from their published documents. Is there an agenda...u bet there is. | |||
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" I have no idea how much more complex that chips they are talking about would be, but my cats all have chips in them. How does the vet check they're still tnere? They're RFID chips, so a proximity reader - any further away than an inch or so and you won't read them. That's why you can't use them to find out where your pet has run off to. " Exactly. So we can't infer from that, that chips are being injected in to us via vaccinations. Unless self service tills are really government spy portals set up to scan us all... | |||
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" I have no idea how much more complex that chips they are talking about would be, but my cats all have chips in them. How does the vet check they're still tnere? They're RFID chips, so a proximity reader - any further away than an inch or so and you won't read them. That's why you can't use them to find out where your pet has run off to. It was reported 2days ago that vaccine companies are teaming up with masterdcard. Of course tin foil hat wearers already talked about this in february . Mentioning the likes of ID2020 INDIA HAD THESE IN PLACE SINCE 2018! MILLIONS were trialed on and so was bangladesh. Conspiracy to chip us all? No... Its forward planning. I You can find documents quite readily. Just like how the WHO wants to teach 4 year olds to touch themselves... Again... It comes straight from their published documents. Is there an agenda...u bet there is." Of course there's an agenda. Just not necessarily the one you or I think there is. | |||
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"You're wasting your time trying to convince conspiracy theorists that they are wrong. It doesn't matter what evidence you produce, they will say it's wrong, because admitting you are right would make them look silly. If you want proof of this, watch "beyond the curve" Their own experiments proved they were wrong, but they still continued to argue." They just reduce what could be informative and interesting threads into a farce. They bore the absolute fuck out of me. | |||
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" Unless self service tills are really government spy portals set up to scan us all... " Don't. Just don't.... | |||
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" You can find documents quite readily. " Indeed you can. I just found one saying that I'm the King of the World and have a 36" cock... | |||
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" I have no idea how much more complex that chips they are talking about would be, but my cats all have chips in them. How does the vet check they're still tnere? They're RFID chips, so a proximity reader - any further away than an inch or so and you won't read them. That's why you can't use them to find out where your pet has run off to. It was reported 2days ago that vaccine companies are teaming up with masterdcard. Of course tin foil hat wearers already talked about this in february . Mentioning the likes of ID2020 INDIA HAD THESE IN PLACE SINCE 2018! MILLIONS were trialed on and so was bangladesh. Conspiracy to chip us all? No... Its forward planning. I You can find documents quite readily. Just like how the WHO wants to teach 4 year olds to touch themselves... Again... It comes straight from their published documents. Is there an agenda...u bet there is." So will we all have to wear a collar with a chip? | |||
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"What’s the most outlandish one you have heard ? " still the 5g one lol.some loon near me has sprayed on the train bridge near ne covid is because of 5g and the goverment are trying to kill all blacks asians and old people.lol. some peeps are beyond help in my opinion | |||
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"Have they ALWAYS been a thing? Did people in the 60's,70's obsess about being lied to by the government, disagree with vaccines,think there was some freaky ulterior motive to everything? Every day I read so much bullshit that people have no evidence to back up and it just makes me so sad." conspiracy theories have been around as long as humans have. It goes all the way back, something happened it was a curse or a witch or the God's . The reason conspiracy theories exist is people can't associate a large scale event with a basic small answer. The Internet has just made it easier to spread shit and nonsense. Some conspiracy theories are true and have proved to be so. Not very many though. And the ones that were were impossible to keep secret. They will always be there, will get worse and will cause more problems. The funniest thing for me is an angry conspiracy theorist shouting at people to wake up sheeple, regurgitating something someone else said on the Internet. | |||
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" I have no idea how much more complex that chips they are talking about would be, but my cats all have chips in them. How does the vet check they're still tnere? They're RFID chips, so a proximity reader - any further away than an inch or so and you won't read them. That's why you can't use them to find out where your pet has run off to. It was reported 2days ago that vaccine companies are teaming up with masterdcard. Of course tin foil hat wearers already talked about this in february . Mentioning the likes of ID2020 INDIA HAD THESE IN PLACE SINCE 2018! MILLIONS were trialed on and so was bangladesh. Conspiracy to chip us all? No... Its forward planning. I You can find documents quite readily. Just like how the WHO wants to teach 4 year olds to touch themselves... Again... It comes straight from their published documents. Is there an agenda...u bet there is." So I had a little look into this and who came up to explain....David Icke | |||
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" I have no idea how much more complex that chips they are talking about would be, but my cats all have chips in them. How does the vet check they're still tnere? They're RFID chips, so a proximity reader - any further away than an inch or so and you won't read them. That's why you can't use them to find out where your pet has run off to. It was reported 2days ago that vaccine companies are teaming up with masterdcard. Of course tin foil hat wearers already talked about this in february . Mentioning the likes of ID2020 INDIA HAD THESE IN PLACE SINCE 2018! MILLIONS were trialed on and so was bangladesh. Conspiracy to chip us all? No... Its forward planning. I You can find documents quite readily. Just like how the WHO wants to teach 4 year olds to touch themselves... Again... It comes straight from their published documents. Is there an agenda...u bet there is." Holey moley!! One wonders how some people actually survive into adulthood | |||
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" I have no idea how much more complex that chips they are talking about would be, but my cats all have chips in them. How does the vet check they're still tnere? They're RFID chips, so a proximity reader - any further away than an inch or so and you won't read them. That's why you can't use them to find out where your pet has run off to. It was reported 2days ago that vaccine companies are teaming up with masterdcard. Of course tin foil hat wearers already talked about this in february . Mentioning the likes of ID2020 INDIA HAD THESE IN PLACE SINCE 2018! MILLIONS were trialed on and so was bangladesh. Conspiracy to chip us all? No... Its forward planning. I You can find documents quite readily. Just like how the WHO wants to teach 4 year olds to touch themselves... Again... It comes straight from their published documents. Is there an agenda...u bet there is. Holey moley!! One wonders how some people actually survive into adulthood" Sir Terry would have a field day with all this. | |||
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"Conspiracy Theory is a term dreamed up by the CIA to discredit people who chose to oppose or offer an alternative to a Government agenda or narrative. The point being, always conduct your own research." I'll agree with this. Having been one of the first whistle blowers on the care home scandal back in early April. | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all? There is A LOT JFK Moon Landing The Clintons 9/11 Illuminati Flat Earth Diana’s Murder Roswell Satanic Cults lead by the worlds Elite Any time there is a mass shooting, it happens around critical times in america in Congress etc so they put them together. And the list goes on As I said further up JFK was the mother of all the conspiracies " Unless you just literally assume one of the two very reasonable narratives. CIA or MOB Both had their reasons, I’m more on the stance of the Mafia personally | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all? There is A LOT JFK Moon Landing The Clintons 9/11 Illuminati Flat Earth Diana’s Murder Roswell Satanic Cults lead by the worlds Elite Any time there is a mass shooting, it happens around critical times in america in Congress etc so they put them together. And the list goes on Yes pretty all of it guff. I will deal with mass shootings in the US being planned by congress or whoever. In 2019 there were 434 mass shootings in the US. Do congress have that many critical times?" Not every mass shooting is related but if you check certain dates and certain events they line up. You need to look deep. I won’t tell anyone what to believe. Look Into It | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all? There is A LOT JFK Moon Landing The Clintons 9/11 Illuminati Flat Earth Diana’s Murder Roswell Satanic Cults lead by the worlds Elite Any time there is a mass shooting, it happens around critical times in america in Congress etc so they put them together. And the list goes on Yes pretty all of it guff. I will deal with mass shootings in the US being planned by congress or whoever. In 2019 there were 434 mass shootings in the US. Do congress have that many critical times? Not every mass shooting is related but if you check certain dates and certain events they line up. You need to look deep. I won’t tell anyone what to believe. Look Into It " So you mean, if you ignore the fact that a lot don't match up and only focus on the ones you can make fit if you try looking really really hard. Seriously, I could do the same with a bus timetable, it doesn't mean my local bus company is secretly planning to take over the world. | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all? There is A LOT JFK Moon Landing The Clintons 9/11 Illuminati Flat Earth Diana’s Murder Roswell Satanic Cults lead by the worlds Elite Any time there is a mass shooting, it happens around critical times in america in Congress etc so they put them together. And the list goes on Yes pretty all of it guff. I will deal with mass shootings in the US being planned by congress or whoever. In 2019 there were 434 mass shootings in the US. Do congress have that many critical times? Not every mass shooting is related but if you check certain dates and certain events they line up. You need to look deep. I won’t tell anyone what to believe. Look Into It " Correlation does not imply causation But I can keep my cognative biases in check so what are these dates and how do they align? | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all? There is A LOT JFK Moon Landing The Clintons 9/11 Illuminati Flat Earth Diana’s Murder Roswell Satanic Cults lead by the worlds Elite Any time there is a mass shooting, it happens around critical times in america in Congress etc so they put them together. And the list goes on Yes pretty all of it guff. I will deal with mass shootings in the US being planned by congress or whoever. In 2019 there were 434 mass shootings in the US. Do congress have that many critical times? Not every mass shooting is related but if you check certain dates and certain events they line up. You need to look deep. I won’t tell anyone what to believe. Look Into It " 434 mass shootings is more than one a day. The liklihood of them lining up is extremely high in that case. There would only be cause to believe they might be connected somehow if mass shootings *only*occurred on those days. | |||
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"My favourite is the 'iraq had weapons of mass destruction, so we HAD to invade' conspiracy. Bloody whack job's them bush and blairs." I would call that a conspiracy theory. That is poltics and politicians don't always tell the whole truth when they want things to happen. In this case pretty all the facts are out in the open to judge. It must be said parliament could have blocked the iraqi invasion but both the Labour and conservative parties backed it. | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all? There is A LOT JFK Moon Landing The Clintons 9/11 Illuminati Flat Earth Diana’s Murder Roswell Satanic Cults lead by the worlds Elite Any time there is a mass shooting, it happens around critical times in america in Congress etc so they put them together. And the list goes on Yes pretty all of it guff. I will deal with mass shootings in the US being planned by congress or whoever. In 2019 there were 434 mass shootings in the US. Do congress have that many critical times? Not every mass shooting is related but if you check certain dates and certain events they line up. You need to look deep. I won’t tell anyone what to believe. Look Into It Correlation does not imply causation But I can keep my cognative biases in check so what are these dates and how do they align? " As I’ve said I’ve heard this one flying about and when you look into certain things you see some patterns. But I would rather people do their homework personally. I have no agenda regarding proving or disproving theories on fab. People make their own minds up and do their own homework should they feel inclined | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all? There is A LOT JFK Moon Landing The Clintons 9/11 Illuminati Flat Earth Diana’s Murder Roswell Satanic Cults lead by the worlds Elite Any time there is a mass shooting, it happens around critical times in america in Congress etc so they put them together. And the list goes on Yes pretty all of it guff. I will deal with mass shootings in the US being planned by congress or whoever. In 2019 there were 434 mass shootings in the US. Do congress have that many critical times? Not every mass shooting is related but if you check certain dates and certain events they line up. You need to look deep. I won’t tell anyone what to believe. Look Into It Correlation does not imply causation But I can keep my cognative biases in check so what are these dates and how do they align? As I’ve said I’ve heard this one flying about and when you look into certain things you see some patterns. But I would rather people do their homework personally. I have no agenda regarding proving or disproving theories on fab. People make their own minds up and do their own homework should they feel inclined " Well here's a conspiracy you should look up in the dictionary.Its called...conjecture. Im not trying to be rude, I feel sorry when people warp the facts of reality into Rationalisations of fantasy Usually these people are suffer from a number of mental health problems. Fact check what you read especially if itsounds fantastical. Most things in life happen because a series of mundane chocies and do not play out like the fever dreams of a failed movie writer blogging in their parents spare bedroom. | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all? There is A LOT JFK Moon Landing The Clintons 9/11 Illuminati Flat Earth Diana’s Murder Roswell Satanic Cults lead by the worlds Elite Any time there is a mass shooting, it happens around critical times in america in Congress etc so they put them together. And the list goes on Yes pretty all of it guff. I will deal with mass shootings in the US being planned by congress or whoever. In 2019 there were 434 mass shootings in the US. Do congress have that many critical times? Not every mass shooting is related but if you check certain dates and certain events they line up. You need to look deep. I won’t tell anyone what to believe. Look Into It Correlation does not imply causation But I can keep my cognative biases in check so what are these dates and how do they align? As I’ve said I’ve heard this one flying about and when you look into certain things you see some patterns. But I would rather people do their homework personally. I have no agenda regarding proving or disproving theories on fab. People make their own minds up and do their own homework should they feel inclined Well here's a conspiracy you should look up in the dictionary.Its called...conjecture. Im not trying to be rude, I feel sorry when people warp the facts of reality into Rationalisations of fantasy Usually these people are suffer from a number of mental health problems. Fact check what you read especially if itsounds fantastical. Most things in life happen because a series of mundane chocies and do not play out like the fever dreams of a failed movie writer blogging in their parents spare bedroom. " People believe what they want, like I say I saw certain correlations, but it’s exactly that a correlation, work of coincidence. There is a lot of theories which are certainly arguable, I just stated that mass shootings and Congress doings is a theory that flies around. | |||
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"Where COVID is concerned, I think conspiracy theories are nothing more than a 'comfort blanket' for the very real and grim truth: it's a natural disease and, until we discover a vaccine, there's not a great deal we can do about it. I do like to read about conspiracy theories, simply because I admire the imagination some people have to create them in the first place... and, typically, when you dig deeper, you'll find a lot of them are usually nothing but politically-motivated disinformation. Look at all the current resurgence of 'Pizzagate' - it's nothing but outlandish nonsense designed to discredit the left-wing. Timed brilliantly because the US has a presidential election in 3 months - it's no coincidence." Covid a natural disease? Not even the USA government believes that with strong evidence it originated from the Wuhan lab. Resurgence of Pizzagate timed brilliantly? It's because Ghislaine Maxwell has just been arrested, Hillary Clinton is due in court in September, and strange behaviour by certain TV hosts/Hollywood. That's why people are talking about pizzagate. | |||
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"What’s the most outlandish one you have heard ? " Many years ago, my mum, god bless her, saw a notice in a local paper about a man trying to attack someone in the park. She was convinced the lad up the street was the culprit because his eyebrows joined in the middle, a well know sign of a wrong un. Do miss her. | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all? There is A LOT JFK Moon Landing The Clintons 9/11 Illuminati Flat Earth Diana’s Murder Roswell Satanic Cults lead by the worlds Elite Any time there is a mass shooting, it happens around critical times in america in Congress etc so they put them together. And the list goes on Yes pretty all of it guff. I will deal with mass shootings in the US being planned by congress or whoever. In 2019 there were 434 mass shootings in the US. Do congress have that many critical times? Not every mass shooting is related but if you check certain dates and certain events they line up. You need to look deep. I won’t tell anyone what to believe. Look Into It Correlation does not imply causation But I can keep my cognative biases in check so what are these dates and how do they align? As I’ve said I’ve heard this one flying about and when you look into certain things you see some patterns. But I would rather people do their homework personally. I have no agenda regarding proving or disproving theories on fab. People make their own minds up and do their own homework should they feel inclined Well here's a conspiracy you should look up in the dictionary.Its called...conjecture. Im not trying to be rude, I feel sorry when people warp the facts of reality into Rationalisations of fantasy Usually these people are suffer from a number of mental health problems. Fact check what you read especially if itsounds fantastical. Most things in life happen because a series of mundane chocies and do not play out like the fever dreams of a failed movie writer blogging in their parents spare bedroom. People believe what they want, like I say I saw certain correlations, but it’s exactly that a correlation, work of coincidence. There is a lot of theories which are certainly arguable, I just stated that mass shootings and Congress doings is a theory that flies around." Im not people Im an individual person and I believe not what I want to thats what children do I believe in facts... I form my own opinions based on a number and facts and sources I then stich them together in my own mind. Rather than have social media spew fully formed answers for me to believe in verbatim. The correlation in this thread is the most "people" see through the vale of these social media conspiracies. A correlation isn't a work of coincidence... Its the measurement of how close a relationship two things have to one another. A coincidence has an entirely different meaning, it's how often events occur seemingly by randomly that seem to have a connection. Both of these definitions undermine your own point so I'm not sure what you are trying to say. It the exact example you gave then moved away from..i asked you what (we) should look in to "Not every mass shooting is related but if you check certain dates and certain events they line up. You need to look deep. I won’t tell anyone what to believe. Look Into It." | |||
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"I think...I may be wrong,but wasn't JFK's assassination the mother of them all? There is A LOT JFK Moon Landing The Clintons 9/11 Illuminati Flat Earth Diana’s Murder Roswell Satanic Cults lead by the worlds Elite Any time there is a mass shooting, it happens around critical times in america in Congress etc so they put them together. And the list goes on Yes pretty all of it guff. I will deal with mass shootings in the US being planned by congress or whoever. In 2019 there were 434 mass shootings in the US. Do congress have that many critical times? Not every mass shooting is related but if you check certain dates and certain events they line up. You need to look deep. I won’t tell anyone what to believe. Look Into It Correlation does not imply causation But I can keep my cognative biases in check so what are these dates and how do they align? As I’ve said I’ve heard this one flying about and when you look into certain things you see some patterns. But I would rather people do their homework personally. I have no agenda regarding proving or disproving theories on fab. People make their own minds up and do their own homework should they feel inclined Well here's a conspiracy you should look up in the dictionary.Its called...conjecture. Im not trying to be rude, I feel sorry when people warp the facts of reality into Rationalisations of fantasy Usually these people are suffer from a number of mental health problems. Fact check what you read especially if itsounds fantastical. Most things in life happen because a series of mundane chocies and do not play out like the fever dreams of a failed movie writer blogging in their parents spare bedroom. People believe what they want, like I say I saw certain correlations, but it’s exactly that a correlation, work of coincidence. There is a lot of theories which are certainly arguable, I just stated that mass shootings and Congress doings is a theory that flies around. Im not people Im an individual person and I believe not what I want to thats what children do I believe in facts... I form my own opinions based on a number and facts and sources I then stich them together in my own mind. Rather than have social media spew fully formed answers for me to believe in verbatim. The correlation in this thread is the most "people" see through the vale of these social media conspiracies. A correlation isn't a work of coincidence... Its the measurement of how close a relationship two things have to one another. A coincidence has an entirely different meaning, it's how often events occur seemingly by randomly that seem to have a connection. Both of these definitions undermine your own point so I'm not sure what you are trying to say. It the exact example you gave then moved away from..i asked you what (we) should look in to "Not every mass shooting is related but if you check certain dates and certain events they line up. You need to look deep. I won’t tell anyone what to believe. Look Into It." " Look up Tyler Vigen, Spurious Correlations. It's an education for those who don't grasp correlation vs causation | |||
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"Trade Center No 7 collapsed in the evening after the Trade Center Towers came down. The sheer force of the planes and the impact of the building implosions, severely weakened the foundations resulting in its collapse. The controlled demolition probably weakened the foundations a bit too My favourite is the corrupt BBC reporting on the collapse of building 7 with the window behind them showing a standing building 7. They don't even try to hide the fact that 9 11 was an inside job." I think these tinfoil hats must be cutting off the blood supply to peoples brains. | |||
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"Trade Center No 7 collapsed in the evening after the Trade Center Towers came down. The sheer force of the planes and the impact of the building implosions, severely weakened the foundations resulting in its collapse. The controlled demolition probably weakened the foundations a bit too My favourite is the corrupt BBC reporting on the collapse of building 7 with the window behind them showing a standing building 7. They don't even try to hide the fact that 9 11 was an inside job. I think these tinfoil hats must be cutting off the blood supply to peoples brains." It's been quite hot lately, I think it's more likely they have baked their brain cells. | |||
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"Trade Center No 7 collapsed in the evening after the Trade Center Towers came down. The sheer force of the planes and the impact of the building implosions, severely weakened the foundations resulting in its collapse. " I’m all for 9/11 being a inside job, too many things surrounding it stinks. 2 words to put atleast 50% of the reason it was a inside job, go as follows. George Bush | |||
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"Have they ALWAYS been a thing? Did people in the 60's,70's obsess about being lied to by the government, disagree with vaccines,think there was some freaky ulterior motive to everything? Every day I read so much bullshit that people have no evidence to back up and it just makes me so sad." Regrettably, being lied to by the Government is real, not a “conspiracy theory”. | |||
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"Trade Center No 7 collapsed in the evening after the Trade Center Towers came down. The sheer force of the planes and the impact of the building implosions, severely weakened the foundations resulting in its collapse. I’m all for 9/11 being a inside job, too many things surrounding it stinks. 2 words to put atleast 50% of the reason it was a inside job, go as follows. George Bush Im no Bush fan... But you mean the man who sat in stunned silence with a look of shock on his face listening to "my pet goat" being read to 8 years old after he was told America is under attack. Bush is a lot of things a Geo political mastermind is not one of them. At least he reflected and offered some empathy. Unlike today's politics of instant reaction and retribution rather than Co operation https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/sep/04/september-11-schoolchildren-george-bush" How do politicians get elected? By lying and acting like they have people’s best interests at heart. Like I said I ain’t here to debunk or encourage any thought process, but let’s be honest, Anyone who knows much about engineering would have half a clue, even trump said it back when it happened that it would be impossible to collapse just by the plane. Remember now he built plenty of skyscrapers in that same city. You either have pro in the realm of possibility or you believe the narrative that the media tells you, simples, and that’s about as far as I’ll go into this one | |||
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"Trade Center No 7 collapsed in the evening after the Trade Center Towers came down. The sheer force of the planes and the impact of the building implosions, severely weakened the foundations resulting in its collapse. I’m all for 9/11 being a inside job, too many things surrounding it stinks. 2 words to put atleast 50% of the reason it was a inside job, go as follows. George Bush" what’s evidence have you got that George bush had a hand in it ? Or have you seen a documentary on YouTube ? I’m not having a go I’ve seen plenty of them some interesting some bizarre personally I think it happened as we saw it and it was an act of terrorists not the CIA or the FBI or Bush | |||
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"Trade Center No 7 collapsed in the evening after the Trade Center Towers came down. The sheer force of the planes and the impact of the building implosions, severely weakened the foundations resulting in its collapse. I’m all for 9/11 being a inside job, too many things surrounding it stinks. 2 words to put atleast 50% of the reason it was a inside job, go as follows. George Bush what’s evidence have you got that George bush had a hand in it ? Or have you seen a documentary on YouTube ? I’m not having a go I’ve seen plenty of them some interesting some bizarre personally I think it happened as we saw it and it was an act of terrorists not the CIA or the FBI or Bush " Please look at the information put forward by Ryan Dawson, he isn’t a low level tin foil hat but job sitting in a basement. This is a man who has cross referenced everything that can be possibly looked at and also has sources within certain American government agencies, his a man who knows his stuff and isn’t a multi theorist, he works on many platforms but 9/11 is his real base, all I would say to people is check certain things out, make your own mind up, most of us will never agree so this whole thing is kind of a waste of each others time and took out of context of the OP’s original question | |||
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"Trade Center No 7 collapsed in the evening after the Trade Center Towers came down. The sheer force of the planes and the impact of the building implosions, severely weakened the foundations resulting in its collapse. I’m all for 9/11 being a inside job, too many things surrounding it stinks. 2 words to put atleast 50% of the reason it was a inside job, go as follows. George Bush what’s evidence have you got that George bush had a hand in it ? Or have you seen a documentary on YouTube ? I’m not having a go I’ve seen plenty of them some interesting some bizarre personally I think it happened as we saw it and it was an act of terrorists not the CIA or the FBI or Bush Please look at the information put forward by Ryan Dawson, he isn’t a low level tin foil hat but job sitting in a basement. This is a man who has cross referenced everything that can be possibly looked at and also has sources within certain American government agencies, his a man who knows his stuff and isn’t a multi theorist, he works on many platforms but 9/11 is his real base, all I would say to people is check certain things out, make your own mind up, most of us will never agree so this whole thing is kind of a waste of each others time and took out of context of the OP’s original question " has he backed it up with solid facts or is it his theory in what happened I will have a look at his stuff as I find it interesting | |||
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"Trade Center No 7 collapsed in the evening after the Trade Center Towers came down. The sheer force of the planes and the impact of the building implosions, severely weakened the foundations resulting in its collapse. I’m all for 9/11 being a inside job, too many things surrounding it stinks. 2 words to put atleast 50% of the reason it was a inside job, go as follows. George Bush what’s evidence have you got that George bush had a hand in it ? Or have you seen a documentary on YouTube ? I’m not having a go I’ve seen plenty of them some interesting some bizarre personally I think it happened as we saw it and it was an act of terrorists not the CIA or the FBI or Bush Please look at the information put forward by Ryan Dawson, he isn’t a low level tin foil hat but job sitting in a basement. This is a man who has cross referenced everything that can be possibly looked at and also has sources within certain American government agencies, his a man who knows his stuff and isn’t a multi theorist, he works on many platforms but 9/11 is his real base, all I would say to people is check certain things out, make your own mind up, most of us will never agree so this whole thing is kind of a waste of each others time and took out of context of the OP’s original question has he backed it up with solid facts or is it his theory in what happened I will have a look at his stuff as I find it interesting " All I can say is give it a look, I would rather you look yourself and come to your own conclusion. I got one cannot argue with what he presents | |||
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"I've been researching this Q Anon phenomenon now for a year & half and while some of it can be quite outlandish, some things have been proven correct ahead of time. WWG1WGA" Wayfair Gate.... You mean the group of people who think you buy underage female sexworkers buy buying generic furniture listing just because they have female names. For those that are not "enlightened" | |||
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"Trade Center No 7 collapsed in the evening after the Trade Center Towers came down. The sheer force of the planes and the impact of the building implosions, severely weakened the foundations resulting in its collapse. I’m all for 9/11 being a inside job, too many things surrounding it stinks. 2 words to put atleast 50% of the reason it was a inside job, go as follows. George Bush what’s evidence have you got that George bush had a hand in it ? Or have you seen a documentary on YouTube ? I’m not having a go I’ve seen plenty of them some interesting some bizarre personally I think it happened as we saw it and it was an act of terrorists not the CIA or the FBI or Bush Please look at the information put forward by Ryan Dawson, he isn’t a low level tin foil hat but job sitting in a basement. This is a man who has cross referenced everything that can be possibly looked at and also has sources within certain American government agencies, his a man who knows his stuff and isn’t a multi theorist, he works on many platforms but 9/11 is his real base, all I would say to people is check certain things out, make your own mind up, most of us will never agree so this whole thing is kind of a waste of each others time and took out of context of the OP’s original question has he backed it up with solid facts or is it his theory in what happened I will have a look at his stuff as I find it interesting All I can say is give it a look, I would rather you look yourself and come to your own conclusion. I got one cannot argue with what he presents" | |||
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"Trade Center No 7 collapsed in the evening after the Trade Center Towers came down. The sheer force of the planes and the impact of the building implosions, severely weakened the foundations resulting in its collapse. I’m all for 9/11 being a inside job, too many things surrounding it stinks. 2 words to put atleast 50% of the reason it was a inside job, go as follows. George Bush what’s evidence have you got that George bush had a hand in it ? Or have you seen a documentary on YouTube ? I’m not having a go I’ve seen plenty of them some interesting some bizarre personally I think it happened as we saw it and it was an act of terrorists not the CIA or the FBI or Bush Please look at the information put forward by Ryan Dawson, he isn’t a low level tin foil hat but job sitting in a basement. This is a man who has cross referenced everything that can be possibly looked at and also has sources within certain American government agencies, his a man who knows his stuff and isn’t a multi theorist, he works on many platforms but 9/11 is his real base, all I would say to people is check certain things out, make your own mind up, most of us will never agree so this whole thing is kind of a waste of each others time and took out of context of the OP’s original question " Ryan Dawson... The holocaust denier holy shit. You might want to think about taking deleting this post. And RT are using him as geopolitical expert your can guarantee he is a media nut job. | |||
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"Trade Center No 7 collapsed in the evening after the Trade Center Towers came down. The sheer force of the planes and the impact of the building implosions, severely weakened the foundations resulting in its collapse. I’m all for 9/11 being a inside job, too many things surrounding it stinks. 2 words to put atleast 50% of the reason it was a inside job, go as follows. George Bush what’s evidence have you got that George bush had a hand in it ? Or have you seen a documentary on YouTube ? I’m not having a go I’ve seen plenty of them some interesting some bizarre personally I think it happened as we saw it and it was an act of terrorists not the CIA or the FBI or Bush Please look at the information put forward by Ryan Dawson, he isn’t a low level tin foil hat but job sitting in a basement. This is a man who has cross referenced everything that can be possibly looked at and also has sources within certain American government agencies, his a man who knows his stuff and isn’t a multi theorist, he works on many platforms but 9/11 is his real base, all I would say to people is check certain things out, make your own mind up, most of us will never agree so this whole thing is kind of a waste of each others time and took out of context of the OP’s original question Ryan Dawson... The holocaust denier holy shit. You might want to think about taking deleting this post. And RT are using him as geopolitical expert your can guarantee he is a media nut job. " I’ve just had a quick look at some of his stuff not for me I’m afraid | |||
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" Ryan Dawson... The holocaust denier holy shit. " Makes you kinda wonder just how batshit crazy a 'well balanced expert' has to be before people reject them. | |||
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"I'll answer my own statement then. What ever we are told.watch listen to government sponsored adverts. If enough believe it becomes true. The facts do not matter. As long as a majority have belief it must be true. " No just because someone says something and another believes it,it still doesn't make it true. Even if millions believe something that's a lie,it still doesn't make it true. If it's bullshit,it's always going to be bullshit | |||
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"But if the majority believe.it must be true. 1+1 = 2 truth or is it ? ???. We are being brainwashed. Just my thoughts. Look how well all started wearing masks brilliant. Dominic Cummings, I guess. " Can’t and won’t argue with that logic as I do believe the same | |||
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"But if the majority believe.it must be true. 1+1 = 2 truth or is it ? ???. We are being brainwashed. Just my thoughts. Look how well all started wearing masks brilliant. Dominic Cummings, I guess. " If you can't count to 2 without finding a conspiracy theory you have more issues that a government telling you to wear a mask. | |||
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"Think. You are missing the point" I'm totally missing the point.... 1 + 1 does indeed equal 2 How is Dominic Cummings relevant to masks? | |||
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"Thay told us 2 weeks before. Every one said why not today. Because someone knows how to manage us. Open your mind" You mean like they did with pretty much every single other step they have announced. You know, giving people as much notice as possible so they have time to prepare, the same thing that huge swathes of the population are actively asking them to do. My mind is quite open thank you very much. I just choose not to fill it with idiotic ramblings from every fruit loop on the internet. | |||
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"Why has this moved to swingers chat? " Tbh your op only mentions vaccines...it was hardly virus. More lounge or here. | |||
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"I think some of you are in for a huge awakening soon. Remember this a conspiracy theory is only theory until its not. 30 or 40 years ago if someone had said "hey that guy on tv that is always helping people and doing good for chairty, yeah that jimmy saville guy, well hes a pedaphile and abuses lil kids" People would have said nonsense go away you conspiracy theorist. Now let's go back hmmm say 5-10 years. If someone said "royalty, presidents, top hollywoood actors,directors,producers, high office politicians and bankers are all involved in peadaphilia and child trafficking" People would say and some will still say oh go away you conspiracy theorist. And yet here we are today, jeffery epstein and his lolita express jet and his pedo island has names from all the above groups on flight manfestos on his jet to his island and when gislene maxwells case comes around next july if she isnt suicided by then ofcourse then everything is going to explode wide open. Also i would highly recommend that anyone that hasnt watched the new documentary (came out couple months ago) called *out of shadows* yet then you really should. Its run time is a little over an hour and 15 mins and its worth every last minite. Maybe checkout the 2 min trailer for it first to see if it piques your interest. Its a huge red pill for opening up eyes, hearts and minds to whats really going on. Have a great day. " Yikes! Someone is deeeeeep into pizzagate and qanon | |||
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"Last post. If you told enough children in there first year at school 1 +1 = 3 Eventually 1 + 1 would equal 3 Back to original statement. If Enough believe it the truth. Government sponsored ad on spotify. Enjoy summer . See there web site to see how ?????? Are we all pig shit thick and need to be told. Or is this all something else " You are aware your last (please God let it be the last) post is not some enlightening statement of truth, it's a random collection of disjointed sentences that make no sense. | |||
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" best i heard was prince phillip had diana murdered lol.. jfk.. had marylin munroe murdered .. to stop her blabbing .. epstein was murdered too .. love a conspiracy theory lol" They all have the realm of possibility, but let’s be honest, Epstein did not kill him self xD | |||
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"You’ve all missed the real reason that we have all been quarantined, it’s to keep us indoors while they change the batteries in pigeons" i have noticed alot less pigeons in the sky so makes sense. | |||
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"One person's "fact" is another person's "conspiracy theory". Just because someone official/government/newspaper tells you something is true, that doesn't actually mean it is. Everyone has their own agenda." True but when people say things like Covid is a weaponised virus invented by the Chinese, and activated by Huawei owned 5G towers, you have to have a giggle | |||
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"One person's "fact" is another person's "conspiracy theory". Just because someone official/government/newspaper tells you something is true, that doesn't actually mean it is. Everyone has their own agenda. True but when people say things like Covid is a weaponised virus invented by the Chinese, and activated by Huawei owned 5G towers, you have to have a giggle " You mean this never happened? | |||
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"I don't go along with the conspiracy crew on most things people seem to thrive on it from Madeline MCCann to 5G and now Covid, any one who denies this is real is just plainly delusional" I dont think anyone will say covid is real! One of daughters had it! Quite poorly for a week! But as to how many deaths are actually due to covid is another thing! And how the powers that b have got all the sheeple hyped up and doing what they want them to is another story! That said I will adhere to the rules! But I dont buy into it all tbh! X | |||
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"I don't go along with the conspiracy crew on most things people seem to thrive on it from Madeline MCCann to 5G and now Covid, any one who denies this is real is just plainly delusional I dont think anyone will say covid is real! One of daughters had it! Quite poorly for a week! But as to how many deaths are actually due to covid is another thing! And how the powers that b have got all the sheeple hyped up and doing what they want them to is another story! That said I will adhere to the rules! But I dont buy into it all tbh! X" *not x | |||
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