FabSwingers.com forum: Women doing men with a strap on

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Simple girls, is it a turn on or turn off ?!!

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

"Simple girls, is it a turn on or turn off ?!!"

ON!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *istress_L-CaptainCouple
over a year ago

Southport

A big turn on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Must admit its always been a fantasy off mine to be fucked by a woman x

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By *istress ValeporcaCouple
over a year ago

South Yorkshire

amusing as hell

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Turn off for me.....

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By *keenyMan
over a year ago

harrogate

girls turn my ass on with your strapon

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland

Dont know if it would be a turn on for Ren but would certainly have me making a quick exit.

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By *enithWoman
over a year ago

closer than you think

definite turn off for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Big turn on for me !

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By *atiecd1967TV/TS
over a year ago

cambridge

Its a huge turn on for me to be fucked in the ass by a hot sexy lady with her strapon hhmmmmmmm heaven xxxx

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By *arkstaffsMan
over a year ago

Rugeley

Love it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Huge turn on......

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By *ont Ask Dont GetWoman
over a year ago

amersham

Never done it! A strap-on virgin, you might say!

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By * times sexyCouple
over a year ago

Staffs

yes its a turn on , well the anticipation is , but if my missus is anything to go by women dont understand the meaning of "just take it easy, gently please" Funny when the boots on the other foot , my missus only knows one speed "jackhammer" lol

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By *arkstaffsMan
over a year ago

Rugeley

"yes its a turn on , well the anticipation is , but if my missus is anything to go by women dont understand the meaning of "just take it easy, gently please" Funny when the boots on the other foot , my missus only knows one speed "jackhammer" lol

Very nice!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely love esp if man in stockings lol oops to much information me thinks lol. You know who you are and next time full x dress please mmm lol

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By *eminiman61Man
over a year ago

mansfield

Sounds like it's a split decision........ What consenting adults do is entirely up to them,just have fun pushing boundaries

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Simple girls, is it a turn on or turn off ?!!"

AS a bloke i love having a strap on used on me so glad to see there are plenty of ladies on here who seem to find it a turn on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Turn off for me.

Cali

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

with the right guy massive turn on...

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By *wo4funmidsCouple
over a year ago

burton

mmmmm let me think,oh yes on

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By *acciWoman
over a year ago

leeds

On defo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only ever had men fuck my bum but would love women to own my ass too

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Lol funny you should say that has last night she made me realise that yes, taking time is key lol G

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By *atiecd1967TV/TS
over a year ago

cambridge

so nice to see so many ladies that are into playing with their men in such a way

NOW if only I could find one near cambridge lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In fantasy terms a definite turn on to have it done to me, in reality not sure yet as still looking for that elusive woman.

Anyone lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Big turn ON for us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My other half did it to me for the 1st time only this week, for me it was 1st class but she didn't enjoy it, she had to be d*unk and it cost £100 me for her to go shopping.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

First time we ever met-mash was up my loft ladder like a rat up a drain pipe when he found out my then retired strap on and harness were up there...i think i fell for him right there and then...no sub domme dynamic with it though-just amazingly intimate and seriously sensual for us

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By *ont Ask Dont GetWoman
over a year ago

amersham

"-mash was up my loft ladder like a rat up a drain pipe "

I thought this must be a euphamism for the subject in question! If not, it certainly should be ! haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love being fucked by my wife with her strapon.will be getting it tonight mmmmmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BIG turn on in every way!

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Moi? Never!

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By *lexaWoman
over a year ago

southampton

"Simple girls, is it a turn on or turn off ?!!"

I've done it once and it was a turn off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a huge turn on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would like to feel something up me why not a strap on

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By *ig Black Cock 69Man
over a year ago

liverpool

Would love a lady to cum and fuck me with a strap on any offers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Turn on! Especially if he's cuffed and blindfolded.

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

"Turn on! Especially if he's cuffed and blindfolded.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Big turn on, any ladies out there wanting my tight ass feel free to let me know, willing to be gagged as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Plz can I be

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

oooo its like Blind Date on here....

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By *amBiUKMan
over a year ago

Plymouth

Massive turn on I love it girls I'm game contact me lol x mmmm

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Seems like a thumbs up then !! Good good we shall keep up the good work lol !!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seems like a thumbs up then !! Good good we shall keep up the good work lol !!!!!!!"

Oh gosh....the strap on yes....but not the thumbs up too!!

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By *ensual temptressWoman
over a year ago

Southampton

love to try but not had a playmate who wanted to try it .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Turn on definitely, but always wondered why!

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By *keenyMan
over a year ago

harrogate

"love to try but not had a playmate who wanted to try it . "

so pop round

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By *keenyMan
over a year ago

harrogate

"Turn on definitely, but always wondered why!"

is it the power over men thing

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By *harlie girlWoman
over a year ago

valleys

would love to give it a go mmmmmmm

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By *now-bbw-bunnyCouple
over a year ago

southend-on-sea

Use one often with wife of friends we meet . Tried it once with hobbies but he prefers my fingers

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By *eet_the_spartanMan
over a year ago

Manchester

I'm not a woman but Rachel loves using her strap on on me and it's a turn on for both of us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Turn off for me....."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tongue fingers anal bead strap on, it don't matter to me what's up my ass, I just get soooo turned on by my ass bein pleasured. I've got a strap on that I use on myself.....would love a woman to be wearing it and pushing it home deep inside me. Any offers??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Big fantasy and turn on. Never really progressed beyond rimming and teasing the butt hole and hoping to find a lady with a strap on to take my virgin arse. Mmm it's such a turn on. Joe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Big fantasy and turn on. Never really progressed beyond rimming and teasing the butt hole and hoping to find a lady with a strap on to take my virgin arse. Mmm it's such a turn on. Joe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh a big turn on for me to be fucked. Any offers from ladies near Leeds?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

depends on who your with and if you trust them.

me? im saying nothing ok?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

depends...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

massive turn on !!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

big turn on for us. Tried similar topic in lounge and eveyone took offence, couldn't believe how unenlightened they were.

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By *ridgestockCouple
over a year ago

derby

"Must admit its always been a fantasy off mine to be fucked by a woman x"
ive been fucked by plenty of woman lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i had a woman fuck me once.

the experience was fascinating.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Any tips for easing the pain for Gareth, still finding it uncomfortable, I'm not an anal girl myself but loads of guys loving it!!! What's the secret to it feeling good?????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends on the size

but ive enjoyed it a few times

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Any tips for easing the pain for Gareth, still finding it uncomfortable, I'm not an anal girl myself but loads of guys loving it!!! What's the secret to it feeling good????? "

My tips - when he's horniest, it will be easiest. Use lots of lube, and size will make a difference, though sometimes larger is better paradoxically.

Apply lube to both parties, and ease his ass with some foreplay, maybe some rimming. Positions will make a difference too, so experiment with those - either him lowering himself down, full control, or maybe doggy, side of the bed sort of thing, but there are lots options on positions and practice does make things easier. If he's flexible - I do lots of yoga, so splits is something I've done - he should find it easier too.

It's an unusual thing for most guys, who've spent their lives ejecting, rather than taking in, so the right mindset, horniness, flexibility and experimentation should get there. Good luck! Sophie x

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By *ilk69Man
over a year ago

city.

wod love to try it, all ways been a big turn on for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would love a woman to do me with a big strap on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mmmm Yum Yum Love It

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By *admanmoonxMan
over a year ago

Stanford Le Hope

Yep this one is a fantasy of mine too. If any ladies are sharing this fantasy then hit me up....

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By *orkieMan
over a year ago

Who knows

"Turn on! Especially if he's cuffed and blindfolded.

Aint got a blindfold chick x

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

"Turn on! Especially if he's cuffed and blindfolded.

Aint got a blindfold chick x"

I have both, can be arranged

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Turn off completely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive tried it a couple of times, i came so close to blowin my load but it just didnt happen, maybe i sjould try again sometime

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never tried it but wouldn't say no!! Turn on for me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tried it once, felt very strange.

Would quite like to try it again.

My view is that any man who likes fucking women up the bum should be on the receiving end at least once, just so they know what it's like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tried it once and would def do again...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone know a nice obliging girl with a strap-on or double-ender? This thread's got me wanting another go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its not a turn on, but I would do it to say I've tried it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i love using a strap on on a man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sounds like it's a split decision........ What consenting adults do is entirely up to them,just have fun pushing boundaries

i'd have a recount it looks like a big TURN ON to me ... plus one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

would love a girl to do me with a strap on.been a fantasy of mine for quite some time.any offers lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any womans welcome to use a strap on on me, or anything else she desires

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By *eisenberg2Man
over a year ago

Rochester

TURN OFFFFFFFF!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our new one came today with 2 dongs will have that in me friday nite cant wait

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By *ister.CMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Girl freind keeps saying stuff like u would like the dildo up ya asss

I keep saying no what ya think I should do

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By *admanmoonxMan
over a year ago

Stanford Le Hope

"Girl freind keeps saying stuff like u would like the dildo up ya asss

I keep saying no what ya think I should do "

Well she clearly wants to and you never know.........

Worst case is you get a little bit of Quid pro quo

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By *enguy30Man
over a year ago

Wakefield

"Must admit its always been a fantasy off mine to be fucked by a woman x"
I'm the same! I've always fantasised about that!!

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

HUUGGE TURN OFF

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can anyone recommend a good start one

The only decent one we've seen was a bit short

Then most have the bit inside for going in the fanny. Don't want that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Adam and Eve harness strap on from Love honey. I've had no complaints.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

thanks!

that looks great!

if its the right one its got a slightly smaller one for starting then a big one for later

going to order it now!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes that's the one! Have fun!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

oh no

its out of stock everywhere we look

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"oh no

its out of stock everywhere we look

Try eroticshop they have strap ons in stock.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

thanks

will have a look now

do you have a selection?

some look good but the adam and eve one looks perfect

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I enjoy it

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By *essiCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

one hell of a turn on....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's always been a fantasy of mone but not been lucky enough to try it out yet

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By *omkatsterMan
over a year ago

London

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By *omkatsterMan
over a year ago

London

As with all 'vox-pop' type questions, asking others isn't going to illuminate you, everyone has a unique - differing -point of view, point of turn-on/turn-off... You've got to find out for yourself. Does it turn YOU on to imagine doing it? If so... Well, you're a woman, so there will certainly be lots of easily available guys out there offering you an opportunity to try!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Deffo turn OFF

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A huge turn on for me. I would love to be tied up and used by a woman with a strap on!

Be gentle at first though!

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By *exymixedcouple7Couple
over a year ago

london

Turn off! And don't think he'll be into it either as he's straight not bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Done it and loved it! My girlfriend at the time said that I now had an idea how good it was for her but she preferred the feel of a real cock... It was that experience and comment that made me curious about guys... She was right of course...

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Done it and loved it! My girlfriend at the time said that I now had an idea how good it was for her but she preferred the feel of a real cock... It was that experience and comment that made me curious about guys... She was right of course...

Think it's good for guys to get a feel for how it is to be on the other end, and probably improves technique. Maybe Grade AAA quality shaggers should be in demand, to give the lower quality shagging fellas a good seeing to, helping improve their techniques.

I don't need to use a strap on, as still got all the gear in place, but do enjoy giving it to very fit lads, tho this isn't my typical role.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't need to use a strap on, as still got all the gear in place, but do enjoy giving it to very fit lads, tho this isn't my typical role."

You're absolutely right on the technique thing. A little experience of taking will give you some empathy when giving

And it's totally totally amazing when you switch round a few times in the sesh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sam would love to do it to a willing participant!

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By *keenyMan
over a year ago

harrogate

"Sam would love to do it to a willing participant! "

i'm all hers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Must admit its always been a fantasy off mine to be fucked by a woman x"

Same here any women interested let me know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we agree about the technique thing. I loved doing it to mike and it made him much more careful and understanding when he did anal to me. Now its great both ways every time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would love to get fucked up the arse with a strap-on

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By *uckknowsMan
over a year ago

here

On xxx

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By *uckknowsMan
over a year ago

here

On xxx

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By *exyangietgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

edinburgh

It's a great turn on for me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Walks in..

Walks out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Girlfriend did me with a dildo i found it rather arousing an she got so wet in the process

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By *arkstaffsMan
over a year ago

Rugeley

Have not been strap-on fucked for too long!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Huge turn on

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

"Simple girls, is it a turn on or turn off ?!!

ON!!!!!!!"

trust you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Simple girls, is it a turn on or turn off ?!!"
off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i love doing a girl with a strap on mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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By *im halpertMan
over a year ago

redditch

witnessed it in the couples room at chams -didnt do anything for me!MRS ASEXY

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Loving the idea, but yet to put it into practice!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not done it for a few years but it's a lot of fun if you find the right person and provided they get off on it. A girl with a dirty and open mind is always the biggest turn on for me.

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By *arnayguyMan
over a year ago

Durham Tees

"Sam would love to do it to a willing participant! "

Definitely willing Sam and will be staying close by for a while

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Simple girls, is it a turn on or turn off ?!!"

Its more control rather than being physically pleasurable. I have to be in the mood to abuse a mans anal cavity though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Simple girls, is it a turn on or turn off ?!!

Its more control rather than being physically pleasurable. I have to be in the mood to abuse a mans anal cavity though."

Also depends on the strapon being used and what's inside the woman etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my ex wife well and truely fucked me with a divorce,and she was the one that fucked behind my back,id like to give her more esp the 6 foot of earth that shes got coming lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Turn on. nice to be sub now and again x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Turn on for us.

Cheryl loves doing it to me (she can easily orgasm doing so) and I really rather like the experience.

That said, we appreciate that its not everyone's taste and if we were ever to do it at Chams, it would probably be in an unlocked private room or in the swing. I don't think we'd ever impose upon someone else with it in the couples room.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

I had a few strap-ons and thought it would be fun... especially when I bought the beautiful pink leather harness with easy-fit multi attachments.

It truth, I could take it or leave it.... and preferred to leave it as the faffing about getting it on was a passion killer and once on it was never comfortable.

Sharing a double ender with a guy.... now that is a different matter.... that is REALLY good fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We got 2 strapons which the wife uses on my ass,they rub her clit as she fucks me so we both get to cum mmmmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We got 2 strapons which the wife uses on my ass,they rub her clit as she fucks me so we both get to cum mmmmmm"

Sounds like it works for both of you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We love it and do it quite alot too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love it that much I've got two of my own

Any fem in the NW wanting to try, get it touch please

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By *ature married manMan
over a year ago

Loughborough

Shame there isnt any ladies in Leicestershire with a strap-on, as id love to be fucked with one. Message me if ur out there please?

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By *aldybiMan
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

Same here... (-:

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By *aldybiMan
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

Ooooh!! That sounds exciting!

I've seen a couple of Nexus types that look ideal. Is that something like you have?

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By *ukus 62Woman
over a year ago

Essex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never tried it..do guys really like it?

Or the real thing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

would sooner have my face buried in the ladies groin and the real thing from behind

but hey, am always open to new possibilities

if i am a brave boy do i get some sweeties afterwards ?

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By *er himWoman
over a year ago

Essex

Interesting thoughts of others.

Well We were not into it at all....But on holiday She used her vib on my perinium and then we decided to try it a little inside ..WOW fantastic...cum so much...lead onto her having her first anal fuck from me...WOW she loved it to...so you dont know till you try...it doesnt make you Gay just better fun sex.

Well it has lead us to wanting to try lots more different sexy fun

1. Looking for a Viberator strap on MUST be latex free any suggestions

2. she wants to take him from behind while his cock is in another pussy

3. She want to try another fem and be fucked by fem

4. Get him to try bi oral with guy...thinks it would be so horny seeing it

5. Addition to above may be him sucking a cock as while play in 2. above

Any suggestions as to a double strap on that is latex free so fem can get vibs as well while fucking him

Anyone intrested in your new kinks ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Interesting thoughts of others.

Well it has lead us to wanting to try lots more different sexy fun

1. Looking for a Viberator strap on MUST be latex free any suggestions

2. she wants to take him from behind while his cock is in another pussy

3. She want to try another fem and be fucked by fem

4. Get him to try bi oral with guy...thinks it would be so horny seeing it

5. Addition to above may be him sucking a cock as while play in 2. above

Any suggestions as to a double strap on that is latex free so fem can get vibs as well while fucking him

Anyone intrested in your new kinks ???"

2,3, 4 and 5 oooh me too!

Try lovehoney. I know i've seen a double strapon thing but don't know where. Or maybe google it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We bought a double strap harness and a cupid 3 curved silicone dildo in a complete kit from Sh! womens emporium in London. The ladies there were incredibly helpful in showing Cheryl how to best fit the harness etc and we have to say the whole thing is faultless. So comfortable for her to wear and is perfect for beginners and experienced couples alike.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Interesting thoughts of others.

Well it has lead us to wanting to try lots more different sexy fun

1. Looking for a Viberator strap on MUST be latex free any suggestions

2. she wants to take him from behind while his cock is in another pussy

3. She want to try another fem and be fucked by fem

4. Get him to try bi oral with guy...thinks it would be so horny seeing it

5. Addition to above may be him sucking a cock as while play in 2. above

Any suggestions as to a double strap on that is latex free so fem can get vibs as well while fucking him

Anyone intrested in your new kinks ???"

I'd volunteer!

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By *icplforbimalebarrowCouple
over a year ago

barrow in furness cumbria

turn on for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank you love honey

the adam and eve strap on has arrived

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thank you love honey

the adam and eve strap on has arrived

Ooh yay it came back in stock then? Enjoy!!

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By *essiCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

such a massive turn on for me...with the right person...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A girl once did me with a her rampant rabbit which was nice

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By *eetle201Couple
over a year ago

dunfermline

think it would be horny would love to try it

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By *weetcheekstooWoman
over a year ago

southampton

would love to ruin my new fb for sure mmmmmmm xxxxxxxxxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Never done it! A strap-on virgin, you might say!

Me too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have been asked but have yet to try this but it is a very big turn on the thought of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"would love to ruin my new fb for sure mmmmmmm xxxxxxxxxxx

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sounds fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am no longer a strap-on virgin having had my first experience last sat night at a private party.

The hostess: a leather clad fem dom did me with her strapon while my wife and another woman gave me double BJ, and before I knew it, I had also got the hosts cock in my mouth .. a full on experience that I hope to repeat in the future.

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By *ndyforfunMan
over a year ago

dudley/tipton

Never had it done to me but like the idea. Don't know what the reality would be like compared with the fantasy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am no longer a strap-on virgin having had my first experience last sat night at a private party.

Sounds like a great night

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love being fucked by a strap-on especially when it turns the woman on so much, she starts cuming herself and starts gushing all over my arse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am no longer a strap-on virgin having had my first experience last sat night at a private party.

Sounds like a great night"

indeed

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By *ub_boiMan
over a year ago

manchester

"Turn on definitely, but always wondered why!"

If you ever need a volunteer, you exquisitely lovely tea drinker, I'm oly a click away!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like the idea, as long as its not too big, would need loads of lube though....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

......its on my list

just waiting for right offer x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any woman out there want to fuck me with a strap on get in touch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bought one a couple of years ago but can't find anyone to use it on me.....yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cute lil playfull arse waiting for it here x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No offers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Virgin (turn on )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find it a massive turn on and set up a profile specially for it. Can't wait for my weeks annual leave to be able to get busy xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

cherry has picked mine a few times now lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A huge turn on for me,

Altho near tried it,

Any offers!!!

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By *lbecCouple
over a year ago

Whitstable

Now thats made Alan's eyes water !!!!!!!!!!!

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