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"after the other thread about full swapping, I genuinely would like to know the thoughts of soft swing only. Firstly if we may make our stance on the subject then let others tell us their thoughts. We are not judging people and neither can we speak for others, however we full swap because we feel soft swap is more of an exhibitionist act than a swinging act. Is it that you cannot bare anyone else to have intercourse with your partner? Is it that you feel the other party may be better in bed than you and your partner will get "too comfy" and possible leave you? Or is it that you lack confidence enough to pleasure a 3rd party! For all you soft swingers out there we would love to hear your reasons." It's odd that you say that you aren't judging people because all of the reasons that you list seem to be fairly judgemental. How about for no other reason than that;s what they want and enjoy? | |||
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"we soft play ecause niether of us have any interest in having full sex with anyone else. we both have great intercourse with each other, and therefore doubt anyone else would make it any better. however, we both enjoy oral sex also, so are more than happy o do it with others. probably doesnt sound sensible to others, but its our thing and we are happy with is" But you must be interested or else you wouldn't be here let alone meet and soft swap. I think people who soft swap have all or most of the fears the OP talks about which is fair enough, just don't get how anyone can be so afraid... | |||
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"we soft play ecause niether of us have any interest in having full sex with anyone else. we both have great intercourse with each other, and therefore doubt anyone else would make it any better. however, we both enjoy oral sex also, so are more than happy o do it with others. probably doesnt sound sensible to others, but its our thing and we are happy with isBut you must be interested or else you wouldn't be here let alone meet and soft swap. I think people who soft swap have all or most of the fears the OP talks about which is fair enough, just don't get how anyone can be so afraid..." not at all. why do you HAVE to want to have full sex with someone to be happy to be with them? we have no fear around other people, we just find sex with each other very satisfying and dont feel the need to add to it. | |||
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"after the other thread about full swapping, I genuinely would like to know the thoughts of soft swing only. Firstly if we may make our stance on the subject then let others tell us their thoughts. We are not judging people and neither can we speak for others, however we full swap because we feel soft swap is more of an exhibitionist act than a swinging act. Is it that you cannot bare anyone else to have intercourse with your partner? Is it that you feel the other party may be better in bed than you and your partner will get "too comfy" and possible leave you? Or is it that you lack confidence enough to pleasure a 3rd party! For all you soft swingers out there we would love to hear your reasons. It's odd that you say that you aren't judging people because all of the reasons that you list seem to be fairly judgemental. How about for no other reason than that;s what they want and enjoy? " how can asking a question be judging people? I dont get it? maybe you have miss read something in a negative manner and have judges us on this | |||
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"we soft play ecause niether of us have any interest in having full sex with anyone else. we both have great intercourse with each other, and therefore doubt anyone else would make it any better. however, we both enjoy oral sex also, so are more than happy o do it with others. probably doesnt sound sensible to others, but its our thing and we are happy with isBut you must be interested or else you wouldn't be here let alone meet and soft swap. I think people who soft swap have all or most of the fears the OP talks about which is fair enough, just don't get how anyone can be so afraid... not at all. why do you HAVE to want to have full sex with someone to be happy to be with them? we have no fear around other people, we just find sex with each other very satisfying and dont feel the need to add to it." You don't know you have fear of full swap until you try it and I can tell you from experience. When we first full swapped it made me so unbelievably jealous and I never knew I was going to feel that way, it was later the thought of seeing her with someone turned from jealousy to excitement and I wanted to do it again. When you put yourself smack in the middle of that situation then come back and lets talk, till then you're none the wiser. | |||
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"Can someone define soft swapping for me please?" Soft swap = everything bar full intercourse with other other people (ie, intercourse only with one's partner). I know couples that only participate in softswap for a host of reasons' but listing examples might come across as a dig at them, which is not what its intended. Rather for me I'll just say I don't soft swap as to me its like licking the cone of a flake 99, but not being allowed to eat the ice cream. Too much of a tease! | |||
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"You don't know you have fear of full swap until you try it and I can tell you from experience. When we first full swapped it made me so unbelievably jealous and I never knew I was going to feel that way, it was later the thought of seeing her with someone turned from jealousy to excitement and I wanted to do it again. When you put yourself smack in the middle of that situation then come back and lets talk, till then you're none the wiser." its funny, that has been said to us in the past and is still no more true now than it was then. you have no insight into us or our relationship yet you deem to say we would be happy if we went further. let me say again WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN HAVING FULL SEX WITH ANYONE ELSE. either of us. the opportunity has arisen and has been turned down, on both sides, both myself and the OH. you like shagging others, thats fine. we dont, that is also fine. live and let live. | |||
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"Can someone define soft swapping for me please?" soft swap is everything from watching up to, and stopping before before, full intercourse. full swap is all encompassing | |||
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"You don't know you have fear of full swap until you try it and I can tell you from experience. When we first full swapped it made me so unbelievably jealous and I never knew I was going to feel that way, it was later the thought of seeing her with someone turned from jealousy to excitement and I wanted to do it again. When you put yourself smack in the middle of that situation then come back and lets talk, till then you're none the wiser. its funny, that has been said to us in the past and is still no more true now than it was then. you have no insight into us or our relationship yet you deem to say we would be happy if we went further. let me say again WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN HAVING FULL SEX WITH ANYONE ELSE. either of us. the opportunity has arisen and has been turned down, on both sides, both myself and the OH. you like shagging others, thats fine. we dont, that is also fine. live and let live." Fair is fair but I still maintain that there has to be an element of rocking the boat or perhaps the unknown for not wanting to go further. | |||
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"Fair is fair but I still maintain that there has to be an element of rocking the boat or perhaps the unknown for not wanting to go further." nope, not at all. we have met a couple and it was stated we were only a soft play couple, yet when we started playing it was put to me (male) that if i wanted to, i could have sex with the other female (by all 3 other parties it was offered, not just them, and def not just my OH) and i sincerely wasnt interested. we both love oral sex. we both love full sex, with each other. we got into it, initially for fem fem fun, but Em found she likes cock just way too much to limit herself to women, yet has no desire to sit on another cock. i really dont understand how you cannot grasp the concept that people just have no desire to go any further. i mean, if you had a packet of crisps, does that mean you should eat the entire multipack? | |||
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"we soft play ecause niether of us have any interest in having full sex with anyone else. we both have great intercourse with each other, and therefore doubt anyone else would make it any better. however, we both enjoy oral sex also, so are more than happy o do it with others. probably doesnt sound sensible to others, but its our thing and we are happy with is" So do full swap partners have great sex with each other,what makes you asume that because you have great sex with each other you doubt you could have better with another person ? | |||
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"after the other thread about full swapping, I genuinely would like to know the thoughts of soft swing only. Firstly if we may make our stance on the subject then let others tell us their thoughts. We are not judging people and neither can we speak for others, however we full swap because we feel soft swap is more of an exhibitionist act than a swinging act. Is it that you cannot bare anyone else to have intercourse with your partner? Is it that you feel the other party may be better in bed than you and your partner will get "too comfy" and possible leave you? Or is it that you lack confidence enough to pleasure a 3rd party! For all you soft swingers out there we would love to hear your reasons. It's odd that you say that you aren't judging people because all of the reasons that you list seem to be fairly judgemental. How about for no other reason than that;s what they want and enjoy? " Not just me then! | |||
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"we soft play ecause niether of us have any interest in having full sex with anyone else. we both have great intercourse with each other, and therefore doubt anyone else would make it any better. however, we both enjoy oral sex also, so are more than happy o do it with others. probably doesnt sound sensible to others, but its our thing and we are happy with is So do full swap partners have great sex with each other,what makes you asume that because you have great sex with each other you doubt you could have better with another person ?" never said people that full swap dont have great sex with each other. never said we definitely couldnt have better with other people. but, when you KNOW you have good sex, why would you go out and look for better when you know you can have great at home? look, im not saying either party is right or wrong. infact, we hav enever lambasted anyone for wanting to go further than we are happy to. seems that full swap couples are a hell of a lot more critical about those of us that DONT go further, than soft swap are about those that do. | |||
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"we soft play ecause niether of us have any interest in having full sex with anyone else. we both have great intercourse with each other, and therefore doubt anyone else would make it any better. however, we both enjoy oral sex also, so are more than happy o do it with others. probably doesnt sound sensible to others, but its our thing and we are happy with is So do full swap partners have great sex with each other,what makes you asume that because you have great sex with each other you doubt you could have better with another person ? never said people that full swap dont have great sex with each other. never said we definitely couldnt have better with other people. but, when you KNOW you have good sex, why would you go out and look for better when you know you can have great at home? look, im not saying either party is right or wrong. infact, we hav enever lambasted anyone for wanting to go further than we are happy to. seems that full swap couples are a hell of a lot more critical about those of us that DONT go further, than soft swap are about those that do." If you have such great sex at home why swing at all soft or full ? Its also about new experiences and along the way maybe enjoying something with somebody else that you have never experienced with your partner..We all think our partners are the best and why wouldn't we thats why we are with them after all.. | |||
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"after the other thread about full swapping, I genuinely would like to know the thoughts of soft swing only. Firstly if we may make our stance on the subject then let others tell us their thoughts. We are not judging people and neither can we speak for others, however we full swap because we feel soft swap is more of an exhibitionist act than a swinging act. Is it that you cannot bare anyone else to have intercourse with your partner? Is it that you feel the other party may be better in bed than you and your partner will get "too comfy" and possible leave you? Or is it that you lack confidence enough to pleasure a 3rd party! For all you soft swingers out there we would love to hear your reasons. It's odd that you say that you aren't judging people because all of the reasons that you list seem to be fairly judgemental. How about for no other reason than that;s what they want and enjoy? " see, this is where it gets ropey,,,,one person asking a question and pointing out thier opinions in a thread does not make them judgemental,,,,,,the op is just writing down what they think people will understand and what they may feel encourage people to reply,,,,my opinion,,,lol | |||
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"after the other thread about full swapping, I genuinely would like to know the thoughts of soft swing only. Firstly if we may make our stance on the subject then let others tell us their thoughts. We are not judging people and neither can we speak for others, however we full swap because we feel soft swap is more of an exhibitionist act than a swinging act. Is it that you cannot bare anyone else to have intercourse with your partner? Is it that you feel the other party may be better in bed than you and your partner will get "too comfy" and possible leave you? Or is it that you lack confidence enough to pleasure a 3rd party! For all you soft swingers out there we would love to hear your reasons. It's odd that you say that you aren't judging people because all of the reasons that you list seem to be fairly judgemental. How about for no other reason than that;s what they want and enjoy? see, this is where it gets ropey,,,,one person asking a question and pointing out thier opinions in a thread does not make them judgemental,,,,,,the op is just writing down what they think people will understand and what they may feel encourage people to reply,,,,my opinion,,,lol" that was in response to someone saying it seems you are being judgemental,,,lol oops | |||
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"Having read all the posts, we agree with _ovedupstill... live and let live to be honest. We are primarily a soft swap couple, we have full swapped with a few couples but to be honest we find we have just as much fun if not more by soft swapping. The two of us having amazing sex together and have just found we have more fun that way as a rule..." Difference is you tried and tested the other side because it's only natural for you to want to know, you realised you prefer soft... All good if you ask me | |||
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" Is it that you cannot bare anyone else to have intercourse with your partner? Is it that you feel the other party may be better in bed than you and your partner will get "too comfy" and possible leave you? Or is it that you lack confidence enough to pleasure a 3rd party! For all you soft swingers out there we would love to hear your reasons." Its a bit of a mixed bag of reasons for us really.. Bit to address the possible reasons above first.. Someone else having intercourse with our partners...wouldn't be a problem if things were different (see below) Someone else being better in bed and the risk of your partner leaving you...no it wouldn't be an issue..we have been together for nearly 25 years..If either of us was going to go we would have gone by now and not because either of us met someone better in bed Confidence, definately..male lacks it in the looks dept..(but not ugly apparently) female (gorgeous looking(lacks it in size dept.. Neither of us would understand why another couple would fancy us..and if we thought that a couple gave us the nod purely because the fem was the type who just enjoyed cock and the male was just being 'nice'...we would feel deeply insulted. But the main reason is that neither of us want to expose ourselves to the possibility of getting a dose (or much worse) the thought of having to take various level of protection in case the other parties are infected outweighs the fun/naughtiness factor too much.. We would both love to be carefree swingers, you all seem such a happy bunch..(and this thread has reinforced the non judgmental nature of most swingers) we feel rotten being stuck on the peripheral of 'the scene' but the odds are stacked against us somewhat. Some of the comments on this thread are quite heartening though...especially as we have had some shit over our stance in the past. | |||
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"we soft play ecause niether of us have any interest in having full sex with anyone else. we both have great intercourse with each other, and therefore doubt anyone else would make it any better. however, we both enjoy oral sex also, so are more than happy o do it with others. probably doesnt sound sensible to others, but its our thing and we are happy with is" | |||
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"firstly ill say i have zero interest in soft swing. for me it would be like having to hold back . however , everyone has there bounderies and what they are happy with and aslong as you are getting the satifaction you want weather it be from phone sex ,cam play ,clubs ,bondage ,water sports ect ect then what on earth is the issue lol !!! i can not for the life of me see why people feel need to bother about the way others swing . as for the commemnt well if you dont try youll not know .maybe soft swing IS as far as that cpl wish to push their bounderies . id no sooner pronounce on thread "everyone should try anal,scat or water sports .if somethings of no interest to you then its of no interest .others maywell rave from the roof tops about about it ,but what drive me crazy in bed will be poles apart from someone else . vie la differance i say ! as for ops post i must say your "question" does come across more negative than curious . id think people who soft swing do so as its what they are comfortable with ,what they get satifastion and their enjoyment from . just the same as i get my thrill and enjoyment from bondage and s and m thats my bounderies and sexual high. " | |||
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"When we started going to clubs we only played with each other. We had sex with each other in public rooms. It was the exhibitionist factor that was the pull for us. It still is to a large degree. We thenm did soft swap for a long time. We weren't afraid to full swap, we weren't jealous about the other having full sex. Oral sex with others was enough for us. We have full swapped, mainly to be honest we indulge in MMF but we have played with couples. For us swinging is about experiencing different things which the two of us cannot achieve together. We enjoyed an orgy type scenario, all playing together in a heap rather than pairing off for one on ones. we have great sex together and therefore we are not looking for one on one sex with others necessarily, but we like experiencing new and naughty things like having two guys or my OH having 2 women. At every meet and every time we go to a club we always have sex with each other. Some people have said 'why do you play together when you can do that anytime'. The answer is the exhibitionism and the having sex in public or indulging in decadence. " totally agree with everything you have said | |||
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"Can someone define soft swapping for me please? Soft swap = everything bar full intercourse with other other people (ie, intercourse only with one's partner). I know couples that only participate in softswap for a host of reasons' but listing examples might come across as a dig at them, which is not what its intended. Rather for me I'll just say I don't soft swap as to me its like licking the cone of a flake 99, but not being allowed to eat the ice cream. Too much of a tease!" | |||
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" in fact, can say quite catagorically, that she has been repulsed at being at parties and seeing men be with multiple partners, and not changing condoms. this is another reason..." I'd be repulsed at that also, and if a guy came anywhere near me with a used condom on his dick I'd be wearing his testicles for earrings fairly quickly | |||
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" in fact, can say quite catagorically, that she has been repulsed at being at parties and seeing men be with multiple partners, and not changing condoms. this is another reason... I'd be repulsed at that also, and if a guy came anywhere near me with a used condom on his dick I'd be wearing his testicles for earrings fairly quickly " Have to say we've been swinging along time now,we've never experienced this anywhere.. Not saying it doesn't happen,but if it does must be extremely rare to be honest. | |||
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"firstly ill say i have zero interest in soft swing. for me it would be like having to hold back . however , everyone has there bounderies and what they are happy with and aslong as you are getting the satifaction you want weather it be from phone sex ,cam play ,clubs ,bondage ,water sports ect ect then what on earth is the issue lol !!! i can not for the life of me see why people feel need to bother about the way others swing . as for the commemnt well if you dont try youll not know .maybe soft swing IS as far as that cpl wish to push their bounderies . id no sooner pronounce on thread "everyone should try anal,scat or water sports .if somethings of no interest to you then its of no interest .others maywell rave from the roof tops about about it ,but what drive me crazy in bed will be poles apart from someone else . vie la differance i say ! as for ops post i must say your "question" does come across more negative than curious . id think people who soft swing do so as its what they are comfortable with ,what they get satifastion and their enjoyment from . just the same as i get my thrill and enjoyment from bondage and s and m thats my bounderies and sexual high. " | |||
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"Ok, abuse in private messages should be reported ....the forum isn't the place to discuss them." did, and looks like theyh have been deleted from the site, which shows the system works. on such an 'openin minded site' i really dont understand why its really isnt just everyone to their own a lot more. some just seem to want to denegrate others for not having the same limits, or lack there of, as themselves. imo soft swing isnt limiting oneselves, its merely playing to a different set of rules. soft swingers may well feel just as liberated doing that as full swingers do. to say its still holding yourselves back and swinging is all about being free is, quite frankly, rediculous. we all have different limits and expectations from things. | |||
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"We mainly soft swap for one reason only. Being a Bi Fem, my interest is in the other female. i don't want just a FF as i wish my partner to enjoy the fun too. To that end, it is easier to find another couple with a Bi fem than it is to find the ellusive single fem to make up the 3 some. Not all guys in that situation just want to watch their partner, so it suits us to interact in a soft swap situation........ simples " In full agreement with this statement as it reflects what we like in terms of a meet scenario. Everyone has their own personal likes and dislikes. | |||
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