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By *herryblossom_BJ OP   Woman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

How does fabbing photos really work? I quickly browsed 'Hot photos' as I enjoy looking at hot cocks and just curious how some photos get so many fabs? Do they just know alot of people or their photos are just really impressive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I look at hit photos daily and if I like the pic I fab it. Simple.

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By *ullpa72Man
over a year ago

Isle of Arran


"I look at hit photos daily and if I like the pic I fab it. Simple. "
yep same here ,if I like the pic I fab it .only polite to say thank you arfter all !

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By *ools1964Man
over a year ago

Swadlincote

I might fab a picture for any number of reasons, im a hair guy, so if i like how her hair is i may hit the button, i also like nice eyes especially green eyes, a cute arse will also attract my attention.

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By *ereforgigglesMan
over a year ago

Scotland


"How does fabbing photos really work? I quickly browsed 'Hot photos' as I enjoy looking at hot cocks and just curious how some photos get so many fabs? Do they just know alot of people or their photos are just really impressive?

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I've no idea.. I get the occasional fab from guys and that's it... BUT I still kinda like that

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By *herryblossom_BJ OP   Woman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire


"I look at hit photos daily and if I like the pic I fab it. Simple. "

But how did those photos get on the hot list? They must know a hell lot of people

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By *borofucktoyMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"How does fabbing photos really work? I quickly browsed 'Hot photos' as I enjoy looking at hot cocks and just curious how some photos get so many fabs? Do they just know alot of people or their photos are just really impressive?

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Fabbed your new video, good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A sexy face pic will always attract a lot of fabs .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fab a pic as a show of appreciation of what ive seen. And it doesn't matter if what ive fabbed is naked or clothed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I noticed everyone of the top ones is of a woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I fab a pic as a show of appreciation of what ive seen. And it doesn't matter if what ive fabbed is naked or clothed"

I do the exact same

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By *atinocoupleCouple
over a year ago

SF, NY, London (in that order)

Time of day affects things. If we post in the evening from the US it seems to be lower, if we're back in the UK then we get more. Just more people online. Don't really care about how many fans we get though, a couple of complimentary DMs are far more appreciated.

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By *herryblossom_BJ OP   Woman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire


"How does fabbing photos really work? I quickly browsed 'Hot photos' as I enjoy looking at hot cocks and just curious how some photos get so many fabs? Do they just know alot of people or their photos are just really impressive?

Fabbed your new video, good luck "

Thanks

I never been in the fabbed hot list before. Just curious how people get known by their photos

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By *KAholeandgloryCouple
over a year ago

exeter

We would love to get to pg1 but never achieved it lol

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By *atinocoupleCouple
over a year ago

SF, NY, London (in that order)


"We would love to get to pg1 but never achieved it lol"

Fabbed a few sexy ones to help you on your way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I normally Fab a pic if I've seen someone I like on the forums and have a nosey at their pics.

I never Fab any pics/vids from anyone seeking attention as there are quite a few on here. Doesn't matter how fit they are I'm just not into narcissism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Id love to actually get a pic fabbed lol

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By *borofucktoyMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"How does fabbing photos really work? I quickly browsed 'Hot photos' as I enjoy looking at hot cocks and just curious how some photos get so many fabs? Do they just know alot of people or their photos are just really impressive?

Fabbed your new video, good luck

Thanks

I never been in the fabbed hot list before. Just curious how people get known by their photos "

from what I've seen in the hot list your more than how enough, sometimes it could be down to the time of day you upload maybe? I know it's based on how many fabs within 12 hours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We would love to get to pg1 but never achieved it lol"

I made it onto page 9 today, never happened the Last time I was here haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How does fabbing photos really work? I quickly browsed 'Hot photos' as I enjoy looking at hot cocks and just curious how some photos get so many fabs? Do they just know alot of people or their photos are just really impressive?

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You're always on my hotlist jasmine x

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By *borofucktoyMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"We would love to get to pg1 but never achieved it lol

I made it onto page 9 today, never happened the Last time I was here haha "

well as a guy the closest I've got is about page 8 of the guys list ..which was about 15 fabs

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By *KAholeandgloryCouple
over a year ago

exeter


"We would love to get to pg1 but never achieved it lol

Fabbed a few sexy ones to help you on your way "

Thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s definitely a popularity thing. I’m guessing once someone posts a new picture and they get 1000s of fabs they then go on hotlist so when they post you know about it and then fab again.

Everyone says they are not bothered by it but it’s a lovely feeling knowing people find you attractive. I’m always amazed when I put a new picture up how quickly the numbers go up. But never made it to hot list.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's 20k people online at moment. So say in Ireland we search hot pics for women all people online in Ireland see the same hot pics. If you look at the UK top pic there fab numbers are usually huge , the Irish ones not so much.

I guess it's a bit like other social media post between certain times you know going to be more online etc.

Some people look for fabs etc to get them to pg 1. I have gotten to pg 1 and I think wtf , me ?

I like pics for different reasons ,the tease, the seduction or just it's a good picture.

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By *KAholeandgloryCouple
over a year ago

exeter

What do people think is the best time to upload a pic for the most fabs lol

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By *ormladMan
over a year ago

Kilmarnock

I fab a sexy good looking pic irrespective of whether they are looking for single guys or not. A fab pic is a fab pic lol.

Only exception is men's pic, not my cup of tea

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By *ankie303Woman
over a year ago

Weirdsville South Coast Dorset

Things like being active on the forums, adding text saying "fab this if bla bla bla" and putting the same on updates seems to get fabs.

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


"How does fabbing photos really work? I quickly browsed 'Hot photos' as I enjoy looking at hot cocks and just curious how some photos get so many fabs? Do they just know alot of people or their photos are just really impressive?

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Showing your face is a big one, being a good looking single female (90%) getting your tits out and pussy with face showing at the same time, be prepared to show play shots. Then it's what time of day you post, I've noticed the popular people post about 8am and see how it does for 12 hours. Alot of guys in particular will view these, fab and hotlist therefore creating a fanbase over time, most of the popular have been here a while so as soon as they upload immediately their fanbase fab. Others will fab too as well as hotlist, fanbase grows even more and so it goes on.. It still has to be a good, sexy picture that gets others juices flowing but with an established fanbase it doesn't need to be the best..Just what we've observed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I look at hit photos daily and if I like the pic I fab it. Simple.

But how did those photos get on the hot list? They must know a hell lot of people "

Single guys Fab most pics here . All them profiles who come on the first page of Hotlist are single females, young cpls who are looking for single Males ,on their profile. They reach to wider audience by opening up their filters.

To get into Hotlist ,you should get maximum Fabs within 12 hours of posting a pic. We made up to the second page at best .

Some profiles feature regular on Hot pics pages.

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke


"I look at hit photos daily and if I like the pic I fab it. Simple.

But how did those photos get on the hot list? They must know a hell lot of people

Single guys Fab most pics here . All them profiles who come on the first page of Hotlist are single females, young cpls who are looking for single Males ,on their profile. They reach to wider audience by opening up their filters.

To get into Hotlist ,you should get maximum Fabs within 12 hours of posting a pic. We made up to the second page at best .

Some profiles feature regular on Hot pics pages. "

I’ve fabbed a few of yrs and others. I just fab what I like, only polite

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By *ustWhatYouNeededMan
over a year ago

Big Buddy


"I look at hit photos daily and if I like the pic I fab it. Simple.

But how did those photos get on the hot list? They must know a hell lot of people "

I know people like to stay looking at the new public photo section plus others just have big fan clubs lool

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How does fabbing photos really work? I quickly browsed 'Hot photos' as I enjoy looking at hot cocks and just curious how some photos get so many fabs? Do they just know alot of people or their photos are just really impressive?

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i look at the hotpics for inspiration if i don't get any i move on

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By *irewolffMan
over a year ago

Dublin

Some profiles gather a huge 'following'. Whenever they put up a new pic, it gets Fabbed regardless.

I generally tend to see the same profiles on page 1. We have made it to page 1 of Irish hotlist before. I put up pics because I enjoy taking them & getting the odd compliment message. Nice to know the effort is appreciated.

MsD

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By *exyredheadtattooCouple
over a year ago

Beaumont

Popularity, shamelessly asking for fabs , or sometimes fabbing forums. Not saying that some pics aren't impressive.

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By *att7772Couple
over a year ago

newcastle


"How does fabbing photos really work? I quickly browsed 'Hot photos' as I enjoy looking at hot cocks and just curious how some photos get so many fabs? Do they just know alot of people or their photos are just really impressive?

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I love having my photos fabd - especially by the ladies xx

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By *herryblossom_BJ OP   Woman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

So basically its to do with having a massive following (no idea how they do that) and posting it when its peak time of the day. Someone said showing your face and having a professional camera and photographer helps.

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By *irewolffMan
over a year ago

Dublin


"So basically its to do with having a massive following (no idea how they do that) and posting it when its peak time of the day. Someone said showing your face and having a professional camera and photographer helps. "

Never gonna show my face publically but now that you mention it, a good few of top hotlist pics do.. hmmmmm.

No idea what is a good time of the day to post pics...???? Evening time as more people are online??

It requires way too much thought IMO.....better things to be doing! Like going to have a shower after my cycle....my toes are frozen!

MsD

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So basically its to do with having a massive following (no idea how they do that) and posting it when its peak time of the day. Someone said showing your face and having a professional camera and photographer helps. "
it comes from being here years and uploading a sexy photo first thing in the morning every morning like clockwork and once you get on the guys hotlists the skies the limit....... hotpics page one everyday....... what more could you want

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By *herryblossom_BJ OP   Woman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire


"So basically its to do with having a massive following (no idea how they do that) and posting it when its peak time of the day. Someone said showing your face and having a professional camera and photographer helps. it comes from being here years and uploading a sexy photo first thing in the morning every morning like clockwork and once you get on the guys hotlists the skies the limit....... hotpics page one everyday....... what more could you want "

But then if you post a pic that's 'not so hot' you're a failure? I just really curious how photos get over 1000s of likes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of the guys that get on there daily are hot though, obviously on a lot of people’s hot lists and posting daily,

We have a few on our hotlist that it’s likely we would never approach and aren’t what we are looking for but love the profile and the pics they put up so give them a fab if we like what they post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So basically its to do with having a massive following (no idea how they do that) and posting it when its peak time of the day. Someone said showing your face and having a professional camera and photographer helps. "

That's BS

We have seen some crap pics make to the first page too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So basically its to do with having a massive following (no idea how they do that) and posting it when its peak time of the day. Someone said showing your face and having a professional camera and photographer helps.

That's BS

We have seen some crap pics make to the first page too"

Yeah we have seen some bad stuff on there too and wondered who on earth had a thing for that type of pic but it’s each to their own isn’t it

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By *somemoresomeCouple
over a year ago

south east


"So basically its to do with having a massive following (no idea how they do that) and posting it when its peak time of the day. Someone said showing your face and having a professional camera and photographer helps. it comes from being here years and uploading a sexy photo first thing in the morning every morning like clockwork and once you get on the guys hotlists the skies the limit....... hotpics page one everyday....... what more could you want

But then if you post a pic that's 'not so hot' you're a failure? I just really curious how photos get over 1000s of likes"

Thought the same! Most fans from one pic in 24 hours is about 80 , pleased with that lol

But some of them that get like 2 or 3 thousand in 24 hours?? Clearly they are hot but also seem to play there audience and a bit beggy

Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Single women are always more likely to get higher up, I tend to find some of the better quality photos come from couples as they’re actually fabbed for the content and not just being part of the minority on fab!

A lot do get more from asking, putting incentives, having additional social media etc. There are busier times of day, even busier postcodes and face pics are normally a winner! It’s a science apparently

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By *herryblossom_BJ OP   Woman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

Eek I'm on page 3 of hot pics... I don't think I ever been on the hot photos list.. Weirdly you see very little of me... But definitely can hear me

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By *herryblossom_BJ OP   Woman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

Thanks to anyone who did fab the video as I know only site supporters can fab videos. It was just for fun like always encourage by my awesome experienced FAB mentor

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Two are my fav ones on first page

NaughtyNymphomaniac

Glossylegs

Amazing girls

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Two are my fav ones on first page

NaughtyNymphomaniac

Glossylegs

Amazing girls "

We love the stuff londoncpl2play do as well,

The pics and videos are there thing though and she is hot,

Wish we could take pics as well as these guys,

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By *ny1localMan
over a year ago

READING

I don't know what page I'd be on, probably in the hundreds

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By *somemoresomeCouple
over a year ago

south east

Fabsuzie and justforkicks

Super hot xxx

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By *herryblossom_BJ OP   Woman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire


"Two are my fav ones on first page

NaughtyNymphomaniac

Glossylegs

Amazing girls

We love the stuff londoncpl2play do as well,

The pics and videos are there thing though and she is hot,

Wish we could take pics as well as these guys,"

I would love a pic similar to her name is lola. As I'm a domme by heart and that image would represent me so well. Obviously i wear different outfit. Red lace, pvc knee high boots and extremely long thick whip with kitty ears

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Wish we could take pics as well as these guys,"

Your 13th May pic is hot and should have gone to the first page easily

Best thing is to browse pics on Instagram or Twitter of lingerie models and try to emulate it .

You have that body .

Also light effects and sharpness makes a difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Often wondered about this ourselves how do you get a 1000 fabs in 12 hours.

Anybody want to help us along lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Wish we could take pics as well as these guys,

Your 13th May pic is hot and should have gone to the first page easily

Best thing is to browse pics on Instagram or Twitter of lingerie models and try to emulate it .

You have that body .

Also light effects and sharpness makes a difference."

Thanks Priya

We really want to get into the arty side of things and have only really started doing pics over the lockdown for something to keep us occupied lol,

There’s some really awesome ideas and concepts on here that people post and we think ours are pretty bland in comparison but we enjoy doing it which is the main thing,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So basically its to do with having a massive following (no idea how they do that) and posting it when its peak time of the day. Someone said showing your face and having a professional camera and photographer helps. "

I think how regularly you post new public pics will have an effect. I imagine if people know you keep posting, they’ll look for your new pics on purpose.

When they find them, you’ll get Fabs....more pics, more views, more Fabs and it will snowball from there, I suspect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Often wondered about this ourselves how do you get a 1000 fabs in 12 hours.

Anybody want to help us along lol"

Put a message over your photo saying fab it to fuck it . Seems to be the in thing at the moment . Thousands of gullible men will then fab it thinking there on a promise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Often wondered about this ourselves how do you get a 1000 fabs in 12 hours.

Anybody want to help us along lol

Put a message over your photo saying fab it to fuck it . Seems to be the in thing at the moment . Thousands of gullible men will then fab it thinking there on a promise "

Hahah so true.

Have seen a profile with that message and noticed they have not met anyone for past year. They just put similar types of pics and ask for Fabs.

Pathetic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Often wondered about this ourselves how do you get a 1000 fabs in 12 hours.

Anybody want to help us along lol

Put a message over your photo saying fab it to fuck it . Seems to be the in thing at the moment . Thousands of gullible men will then fab it thinking there on a promise

Hahah so true.

Have seen a profile with that message and noticed they have not met anyone for past year. They just put similar types of pics and ask for Fabs.

Pathetic "

We wouldnt stoop to them levels but seems to work for some people. Its not our main objective on fab to be on most fabbed pictures though its nice to be apreciated id sooner it was genuinely because people like our pics rather than thinking they will get something from it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if you're putting new pics on at a steady rate and they are good, people maybe pop you onto their hot list so every time you pop another on it'll alert them and eventually you build up a good sized following.. of course this could be way off the mark but it sort of makes sence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So basically its to do with having a massive following (no idea how they do that) and posting it when its peak time of the day. Someone said showing your face and having a professional camera and photographer helps. it comes from being here years and uploading a sexy photo first thing in the morning every morning like clockwork and once you get on the guys hotlists the skies the limit....... hotpics page one everyday....... what more could you want

But then if you post a pic that's 'not so hot' you're a failure? I just really curious how photos get over 1000s of likes"

its about being regular on page one, guys that don't pay only see page one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think if you're putting new pics on at a steady rate and they are good, people maybe pop you onto their hot list so every time you pop another on it'll alert them and eventually you build up a good sized following.. of course this could be way off the mark but it sort of makes sence. "

We know a couple who also have single profiles . If they post a pic on the couples profile and she post the same pic on her single female profile it will receive 80%more fabs . Single ladies get many more fabs than couples .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think if you're putting new pics on at a steady rate and they are good, people maybe pop you onto their hot list so every time you pop another on it'll alert them and eventually you build up a good sized following.. of course this could be way off the mark but it sort of makes sence.

We know a couple who also have single profiles . If they post a pic on the couples profile and she post the same pic on her single female profile it will receive 80%more fabs . Single ladies get many more fabs than couples ."

I could imagine that happening, fabs are nice on your pics but that's all it is for us, can't remember the last time we put a new pic up..

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By *KAholeandgloryCouple
over a year ago

exeter

Does anyone want to fab our pics lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think if you're putting new pics on at a steady rate and they are good, people maybe pop you onto their hot list so every time you pop another on it'll alert them and eventually you build up a good sized following.. of course this could be way off the mark but it sort of makes sence.

We know a couple who also have single profiles . If they post a pic on the couples profile and she post the same pic on her single female profile it will receive 80%more fabs . Single ladies get many more fabs than couples .

I could imagine that happening, fabs are nice on your pics but that's all it is for us, can't remember the last time we put a new pic up.. "

keep it real fab should be about meeting nice people thats what it was designed for. Seems some people are more hell bent on getting most fabs rather that actually meeting people . Fab was a better place without this facility

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By *uckslut and MCouple
over a year ago

Poole

Theres a handful of people who are always on " hot pics". They have fan clubs who follow them and fab whay ever pic they put up. They could wear a bin bag, and it would be fabbed.

We don't give a hoot if anyone fabs ours or not. We use fabs for our pleasure, not for likes on our pics. Pics on our profile is our shop window to show we are real, and you will get a real person with curves, lumps, bumps and scares. (fem)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Posting pics can also be fun in situations like now where you can’t meet, and many also use it to get a kick from the exhibitionism! As long as you’re not overly competitive I don’t think it hurts to enjoy getting fabs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Posting pics can also be fun in situations like now where you can’t meet, and many also use it to get a kick from the exhibitionism! As long as you’re not overly competitive I don’t think it hurts to enjoy getting fabs "

Exactly this, you can tell it’s what some are really into, definitely not hurting anyone

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By *KAholeandgloryCouple
over a year ago

exeter

I (mr) like the fabs because I like the thought of other people like the wife too

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By *d4fun73Man
over a year ago

Shipley

The guys in the hot pics are always the same type, young huge cocks and muscles! Mainly other guys dabbing them though?

And on the ladies list it's usually the same ones every day!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol..tried all the tips and posted this morning..got to page 10 first time ever.

Not that we see it as a game but it is always a turn on to see others find your pics sexy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I (mr) like the fabs because I like the thought of other people like the wife too "

Also ditto!!!!

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By *somemoresomeCouple
over a year ago

south east

I just like sharing some pics if they are fabbed then great but it’s more for fun rather than a competition xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Eek I'm on page 3 of hot pics... I don't think I ever been on the hot photos list.. Weirdly you see very little of me... But definitely can hear me "

I fab'd it

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By *t9090Man
over a year ago

Cardiff

Morninggg, get on the hot pics once people just add you to their hotlist definitely

Mine never got on there but after the first one broke the duck the last three I've put up have got straight on there...

Plus the mens ones sometimes only need 20odd fabs

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By *izzy69Man
over a year ago

London

The thing is Jasmine, because of the hot list, there are some who make it their mission to get on it. There are what I call 'hot list desperates'.

I don't know whether it originates from ego or insecurity or self image issues but they blatantly ask you to get them on it.

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By *KAholeandgloryCouple
over a year ago

exeter

We are currently on pg 7

And before anyone slags is off I just love showing the wife off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are currently on pg 7

And before anyone slags is off I just love showing the wife off "

If you’ve got it flaunt it

Sure everyone on here has a bit of exhibitionist in them

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By *somemoresomeCouple
over a year ago

south east


"We are currently on pg 7

And before anyone slags is off I just love showing the wife off

If you’ve got it flaunt it

Sure everyone on here has a bit of exhibitionist in them "

Exactly xxx

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By *borofucktoyMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"We are currently on pg 7

And before anyone slags is off I just love showing the wife off "

nothing to slag off, well deserved I'd say..sent my fab to do my bit lol good luck

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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in Co. Down

I will fab a pic I like. It doesn't mean I want to chat to the person it just means I like the pic. If I want to chat I'll send a message or a wink. But ye I regularly fab pics on here

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By *ecky and justCouple
over a year ago

Godalming

We’ve had some nice compliments and reasonable fabs on some of our pictures and we enjoy taking them.

But, we don’t have face or other identifiable marks showing in public, only to friends.

Don’t think we’ve ever looked to see if we’re on hot photos anywhere but since we have quite a few filters in place I imagine that we limit our market slightly.

Many of the regular profiles on there have I think A high friends count, open filters or actively look to meet single guys.

Our photos are more to demonstrate what we’re interested in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will fab a pic I like. It doesn't mean I want to chat to the person it just means I like the pic. If I want to chat I'll send a message or a wink. But ye I regularly fab pics on here "

This is us too,

We fab some of the Dom stuff just based on how creative it is, we aren’t at all into that part of the scene just think the pics are wicked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't normally look at the hot pics I only fab pics I like and they are normally of people off the forum

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

The first time i was on page one nobody was more suprised than me as it was with a pic i did not like much. I have seen outstanding pics on here that get fabbed very little which makes me aware certain people have a fan club. I post pics to make me feel better about myself when i feel down and if folk fab them then it is a bonus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I look at hit photos daily and if I like the pic I fab it. Simple. "

A sign of admiration and approval...i e liking..

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By *herryblossom_BJ OP   Woman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

I look on hot photos for easy access to big cocks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We enjoy fabbing nice sexy pics xx

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By *quaman87Man
over a year ago

Colchester

I like a pic I'm fabbing it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know why but I usually see the same people in hot pics. There are women in the forums who I consider super hot, but I never see them anywhere in hotpics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never get any fabs myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just put some picts up including first public face picts of Scots.

Fab worthy?

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