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By *ldBlueEyesisBack OP   Man
over a year ago

Ardrossan

Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??"

No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can be truly fab straight

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By *avinaNWTV/TS
over a year ago

Thornton-Cleveleys

maybecit depends on what it is that is turning you on about them and making you feel horny about them...x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can be truly fab straight "

Lol love this, i was straight before fab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can be truly fab straight

Lol love this, i was straight before fab "

And fab changed you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can be truly fab straight

Lol love this, i was straight before fab

And fab changed you "

Fab helped me find out that Im a greedy guy who loves it all

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Does it matter?

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

It clearly does for some....the anger and homophobia that often comes out of these threads is mind blowing on a site such as this..

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"It clearly does for some....the anger and homophobia that often comes out of these threads is mind blowing on a site such as this.."

You would expect people to be open minded but Fab is no different to normal life hunni x

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"It clearly does for some....the anger and homophobia that often comes out of these threads is mind blowing on a site such as this.."

I agree with you.

However simply pointing out the illogicality of two guys having sex together but claiming to be straight is not homophobic.

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By *ounty durham bbw coupleCouple
over a year ago

darlington

We have spoken to men who have sex with TVs but don't consider themselves bi at all mean crossdredsers rather than transitioning

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"It clearly does for some....the anger and homophobia that often comes out of these threads is mind blowing on a site such as this..

I agree with you.

However simply pointing out the illogicality of two guys having sex together but claiming to be straight is not homophobic. "

True

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It clearly does for some....the anger and homophobia that often comes out of these threads is mind blowing on a site such as this..

I agree with you.

However simply pointing out the illogicality of two guys having sex together but claiming to be straight is not homophobic. "

You hit the nail on the head it’s nothing to do with being homophobic but if a guy finds another guy sexually attractive then they are not straight purely by definition

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By *ldBlueEyesisBack OP   Man
over a year ago

Ardrossan


"maybecit depends on what it is that is turning you on about them and making you feel horny about them...x"

For me the more feminine the better, I guess it's the fact that anal is definitely on the cards but some women aren't into that! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does it really matter? So you're attracted to trans people change your profile to bicurious. But dont get hung up on labels, we get plenty of messages from fab straight guys always makes us chuckle. But just embrace how you really feel op

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By *DW1983Man
over a year ago

Peterborough, Aberdeen, Leeds, Sheffield

I think if you're attracted to someone, then go for it. If that's because a guy looks good dressed as a woman, then so what.

I'd say that if its a transvestite/crossdresser, then ultimately its still a guy under the dress, so if you need a label then bi it is. Bi doesn't have to mean you like *every* guy, just like straight doesn't mean you like every woman.

On the other hand, if you suggested that being with a transgender woman makes you bi (and by extension, suggesting she's a man) then I suspect in most cases you wouldn't get very far with her, regardless of people's opinions on here.

Something I wonder about every time threads like this come up: People here are quick to say they see transgender (*not tv/cd) women as male because they have a penis, and the whole 'am I straight/bi/gay' discussion goes around in regular circles. Would those same people be happy to play with a blokey, hairy, transgender man who, by their definition, is still a woman because he has a vagina? Its the same set of criteria, just reversed. Would they still feel straight? And if not, why not?

(Ok, retreating to a safe distance with popcorn now )

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Does it really matter? So you're attracted to trans people change your profile to bicurious. But dont get hung up on labels, we get plenty of messages from fab straight guys always makes us chuckle. But just embrace how you really feel op "

I agree with that in its entirety. Explore whatever takes your fancy on fab but be honest with everyone and change your profile to bi curious.

Enjoy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"maybecit depends on what it is that is turning you on about them and making you feel horny about them...x

For me the more feminine the better, I guess it's the fact that anal is definitely on the cards but some women aren't into that! lol "

Sounds like you're attracted to the female body and a sexually confident / open personality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tell people that I'm fluid in my sexuality, it covers everything while you exploring for yourself

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By *inathetartTV/TS
over a year ago

DERBY

i consider my meets as hetrosexual as men have sex with me,obs i'm very lgbtq friendly but never think of me in male mode having sex with men when i'm tina.

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"i consider my meets as hetrosexual as men have sex with me,obs i'm very lgbtq friendly but never think of me in male mode having sex with men when i'm tina."

Lets see if I can understand this.

You are trying to argue that it is heterosexual if you are wearing lippy when having sex with another bloke.

Whilst it is homosexual if you arent wearing lippy.

Is that the gist of your argument?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why the label....?

If the individual is convincing then you would never know in a darkened room...

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Why the label....?

If the individual is convincing then you would never know in a darkened room..."

Lol.

This suggestion invariably comes into play.

Labels matter. Words matter. Descriptions matter.

The truth matters.

Or would you be happier if everyone lied about everything?

Or is it only some labels you regards as useless?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??"

Does it really matter - labels

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does it really matter? So you're attracted to trans people change your profile to bicurious. But dont get hung up on labels, we get plenty of messages from fab straight guys always makes us chuckle. But just embrace how you really feel op

I agree with that in its entirety. Explore whatever takes your fancy on fab but be honest with everyone and change your profile to bi curious.

Enjoy."

Do you check everybodies sexuality you want to sleep with - be it at a party, club any form of event where swinging is available?

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By *araDeLuxeTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow

I don't think anyone is 'totally straight'. It's a sliding scale with an infinite number of points.

And if they say otherwise, well they clearly haven't met me yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you really do 'swing' you could never know the truth of anyone's sexuality.

Pointless being truthful on your account - or people suggesting you should be trueful...

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"If you really do 'swing' you could never know the truth of anyone's sexuality.

Pointless being truthful on your account - or people suggesting you should be trueful... "

There we go. That is your version of truth. Lying is perfectly fine if it gets you a shag and if someone objects they cannot be a real swinger!!

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"I don't think anyone is 'totally straight'. It's a sliding scale with an infinite number of points.

And if they say otherwise, well they clearly haven't met me yet"

Wrong again. And without being too cruel your "charms" would leave me completely underwhelmed.

That is because I am totally straight as opposed to fab straight.

Not "in the closet" nor homophobic just entirely and comfortably straight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you really do 'swing' you could never know the truth of anyone's sexuality.

Pointless being truthful on your account - or people suggesting you should be trueful...

There we go. That is your version of truth. Lying is perfectly fine if it gets you a shag and if someone objects they cannot be a real swinger!!"

Just can't see how that sexual questioning would work in public environments like the ones I suggested.

That'll be an interesting discussion I'd like to listen to face to face lol

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

OP ...what conclusion have you come too??

I am reminded of the saying; Would you rather be happy or would you rather be right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not the labal that matters but the enjoyment you get from it. If you like it then go for it, if not then, move on.

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By *atexbisexTV/TS
over a year ago

Central London


"Can you be truly straight if that turns you on?"

Who cares as long as you're having fun?

Bring on the straight and curious boys!

xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??"

Nope

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Can you be truly straight if that turns you on?

Who cares as long as you're having fun?

Bring on the straight and curious boys!

xx"

Lol. Curious possibly. Straight never.

But in a fantasy why not.

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"I don't think anyone is 'totally straight'. It's a sliding scale with an infinite number of points.

And if they say otherwise, well they clearly haven't met me yet

Wrong again. And without being too cruel your "charms" would leave me completely underwhelmed.

That is because I am totally straight as opposed to fab straight.

Not "in the closet" nor homophobic just entirely and comfortably straight."

I think you protest to much x

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By *araDeLuxeTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Wrong again. And without being too cruel your "charms" would leave me completely underwhelmed."

My comment wasn't entirely serious (see winking emoji), and if that's you not being 'too cruel' I'd hate to meet you on an off-day.

I just love the sarcastic quote marks around "charms". Truly, a masterful twist of the dagger in my heart.

Still, messaged received. You're totally, indubitably, comprehensively "straight".

L xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

Or

There needs to be a new word for it as you're not 'bisexual" as you don't fancy guys. You're not into muscly rugby players right?

Most men I meet are straight , the most alpha male types so you are in good company, and they just love femininity, in whatever body it comes.

Enjoy!

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

I'm a cd and live 99% of the time as a guy, stubble on my face and the rest of it.

If you guys fancy me or have sex with others like me when we dress up then you can't claim you're straight now can you

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By *ale5Man
over a year ago

london

I like TVs/cds. Does a label really matter?! You like what you like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would imagine that if you're attracted to very convincing and feminine t-girls,or transexuals,then I'm summising they straight to a degree.....its a tough one.

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

We are inundated with straight guys, which is cool as long as there top.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I tell people that I'm fluid in my sexuality, it covers everything while you exploring for yourself "

You cover everything in fluid?!

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By *vcarolTV/TS
over a year ago

kilmarnockish

To put a bit of a twist on things.

And possibly to open Pandora’s box....

If a straight guy was to have sex with a pre op trans male ( for those that are finding this confusing, it’s a genetic female with boobs and a vagina, but is on hormones to go from a female to a guy, and not had a double mastectomy nor creation of a penis)

Is he still fab straight?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn’t worry about the label - you like what you like.

I sort of begrudge stating what I’m into because if I find it hot - its just what works for me.

If I breakdown what I like - 90% of me likes women, but also sometimes I like big cocks.

But I don’t find bloke’s faces or personalities attractive...just the cock! Can’t really stick that jabbering mess on badge, but I don’t care!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Yes

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby


"I wouldn’t worry about the label - you like what you like.

I sort of begrudge stating what I’m into because if I find it hot - its just what works for me.

If I breakdown what I like - 90% of me likes women, but also sometimes I like big cocks.

But I don’t find bloke’s faces or personalities attractive...just the cock! Can’t really stick that jabbering mess on badge, but I don’t care!"

So fab straight then or in other words, you're bi.

What's the issue with saying so?

Many women and couples like to have the choice of not having sex with bi men and that's fine, it's their choice yet you're ok with not allowing them to make that decision if they were to hook up with you...is that fair?

I'm sure if they found out afterwards that you also have sex with men that they would be pretty pissed off with you.

And for the record, I like men even less then you claim to yet believe saying I'm bi on my profile is the right thing even though it will and has put potential meets with women off.

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By *issyfaggotfayeTV/TS
over a year ago

Bolton

Is it the feminine element olus that surprise element that appeals?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To put a bit of a twist on things.

And possibly to open Pandora’s box....

If a straight guy was to have sex with a pre op trans male ( for those that are finding this confusing, it’s a genetic female with boobs and a vagina, but is on hormones to go from a female to a guy, and not had a double mastectomy nor creation of a penis)

Is he still fab straight?"

No, he's actually straight

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By *vcarolTV/TS
over a year ago

kilmarnockish


"To put a bit of a twist on things.

And possibly to open Pandora’s box....

If a straight guy was to have sex with a pre op trans male ( for those that are finding this confusing, it’s a genetic female with boobs and a vagina, but is on hormones to go from a female to a guy, and not had a double mastectomy nor creation of a penis)

Is he still fab straight?

No, he's actually straight"

Is he? As the visual appearance of the trans male could have a receding hair line and a beard.

It is far easier using hormones to go from female to male than male to female.

You have to also bear in mind this is not just a physical thing but a mental thing too.

Labels are just that, it is what people are comfortable with , and happy in themselves.

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By *ic_khan2341Man
over a year ago

Manchester


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??"

Yes, thats a straight thing to do. Some TVs are more feminine and sexy than a lot of women.

They know how the straight male mind works and what it wants.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To put a bit of a twist on things.

And possibly to open Pandora’s box....

If a straight guy was to have sex with a pre op trans male ( for those that are finding this confusing, it’s a genetic female with boobs and a vagina, but is on hormones to go from a female to a guy, and not had a double mastectomy nor creation of a penis)

Is he still fab straight?

No, he's actually straight

Is he? As the visual appearance of the trans male could have a receding hair line and a beard.

It is far easier using hormones to go from female to male than male to female.

You have to also bear in mind this is not just a physical thing but a mental thing too.

Labels are just that, it is what people are comfortable with , and happy in themselves."

"Labels are just that, it is what people are comfortable with , and happy in themselves."

Of course happiness is paramount, but the question was about labels.

Unfortunately a receding hairline and a beard doesn't make a person with XX chromosomes and a vagina any less of a woman, or a man having sex with her any less straight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem with labels is that they often come with internalised judgements whether we want them too or not. They can also be useful tools for figuring out who we are and communicating that to others. My suggestion would be to start out without worrying about the labels so that you know for yourself what you like, and only then start to think about how you might describe that, whatever it turns out to be.

Also, enjoying going somewhere on holiday doesn't mean you want to live there, and if you did live there it wouldn't be an escape anymore. Maybe the reason a lot of 'straight' guys like TV/TS is because it's a fantasy, which it stops being if you make it your full-time identity. It would at least explain why trans women on dating sites get pissed off with guys who want to sleep with them but aren't interested in a relationship.

If someone's only hooking up with you then it's not their business who else you sleep with. You either want the strings or you don't.

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By *inathetartTV/TS
over a year ago

DERBY


"i consider my meets as hetrosexual as men have sex with me,obs i'm very lgbtq friendly but never think of me in male mode having sex with men when i'm tina.

Lets see if I can understand this.

You are trying to argue that it is heterosexual if you are wearing lippy when having sex with another bloke.

Whilst it is homosexual if you arent wearing lippy.

Is that the gist of your argument?"

imo yes thats how i view it,if i'm in male mode i don't have sex with men cos i don't consider myself being gay,when dressed as tina and have sex with men thats hetro to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hubby, I consider myself straight as I've never done anything with a bloke. All I keep thinking about is someone coming over and forcing me to suck their cock and taking cum to the face

Meetshorty Kik

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

... I should probably add that you might agree with some of those judgements, but that's the fun part right... working out how far to push your boundaries and when you might want to leave them where they are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I Went to benidorm with two of the lads just for a weekend and didnt have much luck pulling, exept the end of the night a convincing tv offerd us a bj on the way back to the hotel, all 3 of us got noshed off haha dont really regret it tbh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

CD/TV definitely not for me..but each to their own. I’m 100% straight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Obviously not. I like the feminine illusion offered by Tgirls but i do also like sucking cock . If you like getting sucked off and fucking arseholes if you are a single guy you will find it easier to hook up with a compliant tgirl than real girl. And most will be better cock suckers and have eager arseholes. I got into cock sucking afterwatching straight porn and thinking if those girls enjoy it why not try it.

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By *ic_khan2341Man
over a year ago

Manchester

Many men find TVs more sexually aware of mens needs than women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't worry about labels and enjoy yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??"

Think most people put in the right situation will find enjoyment, it's why prisons and the navy have a certain reputation! Seriously I think the broader your outlook the more likely you are to realise, why would you limit your possibilities?

But some people will only ever eat chocolate digestives and holiday in Spain, that's what they like and they are never changing, larger for the gentleman white wine for the lady lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a reformed straight, t-girls were my gateway to bisexuality and I thank them for it...... repeatedly and at every possible opportunity!

If you’re shagging cd, tv then you’re not straight.

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By *ickDastardlyMan
over a year ago

North East

Its not for me personally.

But who's to say wether its straight/gay or somewhere in between.

You do you, if you enjoy it, go for it. You are harming no one.

Not everything we do should come with a label.

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By *atkittyTV/TS
over a year ago

Richmond

Great thread, grey area indeed.

Don't overthink or label us, if you like it, try it.

Stay safe y'all x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Great thread, grey area indeed.

Don't overthink or label us, if you like it, try it.

Stay safe y'all x"
top answer

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

I actually been watching vblogs about this topic. I often get accused of being a TS which I find offensive as I know I am not. Biologically, my dna will inform you I am a woman. But some TS had amazing transformation since they started their hormone treatment from a young age. So they would consider themselves as women. Especially if they had the full operation and as fellow human beings, we have to respect that. The guy who is interested in them should also be informed and make their own decision if they want to pursue this. As some who haven't had the operation, would change the dynamics of the relationship. It's an interesting subject I like to know more about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im the same, didnt think i like tv/ts till i came on this site, was just looking for women at first now im looking for tv/ts to have an experience to see if its what i want instead. Confused lol

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire


"Many men find TVs more sexually aware of mens needs than women.

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Is that because they naturally aware themselves how they want to be pleased?

Same goes with lesbians, they have a better understanding of each other being of the same sex.

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By *oft_SensualTV/TS
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Sexual orientation and who you might, or might not be attracted to can often be less than rigidly defined and transient in its nature.

So really the issue is Fab can't allow people to describe themselves accurately without writing a reasonable profile and moreover the inherent hetero normative bias within all social systems/constructs (Fab is one of many).

Guys (and gals), if you find us attractive be honest enough to say so and stop perpetuating the above!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??"

No

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

The funny thing about all these comments about labels being valueless is that I see lots of bi curious, bi or even gay guys suggesting this whilst describing themselves as straight.

I have yet to see any example ever of a genuine straight guy casually describing himself as gay!!

Why is that do you think?

Perhaps this preference for distorting or devaluing the "straight" label is more of a bi/gay concern.

In other words many bi and gay guys are desperate to continue to describe themselves as straight in any circumstances.

So maybe the label does in fact have very real value. Even as it is being knowingly distorted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sexual orientation and who you might, or might not be attracted to can often be less than rigidly defined and transient in its nature.

So really the issue is Fab can't allow people to describe themselves accurately without writing a reasonable profile and moreover the inherent hetero normative bias within all social systems/constructs (Fab is one of many).

Guys (and gals), if you find us attractive be honest enough to say so and stop perpetuating the above!"

Absolutely spot on. And Infor one find you extremely attractive, but I’m sure that’s not the only thing that defines you. xx

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By *ge_load_ladMan
over a year ago

NW & Mids

Im not one for labels so on one hand I can see the view of a guys who are attracted with a guy who looks like / dressed like a woman. I get this....

Im orally bi (so not into anal), but I've been told I give amazing head well better than women and gay guys (Not my words the words of others) On the other hand what I don't get is if a guy loves / wants a good bj but say they are only after meeting someone who dresses like a woman.

Taking it to a basic level its guys mouth round their cock and they are being sucked by a guy

Btw just to clarify if you are CD TV TS I personally don't have any issues with it live and let live just don't get the logic of some guys esp the one who say they love a good blowie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??"

I'd say it depends on what it is that attracts you to them.

Also I think you could argue if they are full time TS and identify as a female then no, they are a woman. If it's a CD who dresses for sex then thats different.

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

I'd say it depends on what it is that attracts you to them.

Also I think you could argue if they are full time TS and identify as a female then no, they are a woman. If it's a CD who dresses for sex then thats different."

Not according to some cd's. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes Some Are Very Nice,

This is repulsive-

Watch Out You Don't Find Out Your Neighbor like it He/She is repulsive, is on to you, Ugly Smelly & Fancied you for 40yrs like mine .. Yuk or House Swap !!

Other wise it's a free country to speak and do what you like.

Enjoy is pleasure and the mind has it !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??"

There's quite a few people leaving messages but stating they are 100 percent straight, not 99 percent lol then what made them click on this thread? Just asking

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By *exyangietgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??"

I don't think putting a label on yourself is necessary or even sensible.

If you're turned on by sexy t-girls, that's fine. I know they do it for me!

XX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think I would have to be gay not to feel an attraction towards some of them who I have seen on this site. However that is as far as it will ever go for me.

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By *azzler33100Man
over a year ago

Taunton


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??"

Ok so I don t find men attractive but I find a willing mouth is very horny am I gay bi straight or just a sex pest? Just because I love a good bj?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It has so so many variations of the scale..My wife and I are on 2 different planes even within the 1 play session ..I can be male. CD femme in nature as can she when she dresses up in more male gear with strapon for role play..are we Male and female as a couple yes. but in ones mind in the moment.. sex organs are secondary.. when she wants her girlfriend to come play with her she dolls me up and does my make up etc.. she feeds her bi side even though its me underneath it all. its all a delicious jumble at the end of it all. any other cross dressing couples will find similar views..and then its a wide spectrum at either side of it.. Good luck with it OP. have fun going down the rabbit hole hihi..

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By *dtanyaTV/TS
over a year ago

gallowayshire

You are not straight if you want tae fuck my arse

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By *xtra4funMan
over a year ago

Ashford

Interesting thread. Some great insight and comments.

I’ve wrestled with the straight or bi-curious label on my profile and eventually settled on Bi. In any sexual encounters for me I get a kick out of pleasuring others and seeing their contorted faces just before they explode. Nothing better than a group of completely open minded adults exploring the highs of sexual gratification physically and mentally.

I do have one nagging question though. Out of interest what is it that turns women off bi men ? I see on many profiles no bi men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

There's quite a few people leaving messages but stating they are 100 percent straight, not 99 percent lol then what made them click on this thread? Just asking "

Transphobia mainly.

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By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago

norwich

Yes, as long as only the tip goes in !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d say I’m straight, as in I am sexually attracted to women and not men. However, I do have a bit of a fetish about cum - got hit with friendly fire once and I dunno, I just like being jizzed on I guess! I’d argue that I’m not bi, because I don’t find men attractive whatsoever, maybe it’s the taboo I’m attracted to perhaps.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol


"Interesting thread. Some great insight and comments.

I’ve wrestled with the straight or bi-curious label on my profile and eventually settled on Bi. In any sexual encounters for me I get a kick out of pleasuring others and seeing their contorted faces just before they explode. Nothing better than a group of completely open minded adults exploring the highs of sexual gratification physically and mentally.

I do have one nagging question though. Out of interest what is it that turns women off bi men ? I see on many profiles no bi men. "

Possibly seen as not quite a 'real man'

a ( distorted/ old fashioned view of maleness/masculinity.

Possibly seen as a higher risk of sti's stemming back to early hiv/ aids period and more promiscuous. I am so pleased times have changed in other ways..Bi-males had a 'poor reputation' back in the 70s and 80s ..Mistrusted by some and seen as a cop out by others..'Need to make yr mind up'!

However I did say (possible) reasons so hand over to the women themselves to fill you in..

As for the OP,I think it is entirely your decision on how you identify yourself..Whatever you are comfortable with..

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

If we start with the rigid mindset that we've been conditioned to have, we'll likely form more rigid conclusions.

Gender is diverse and it appears that the human mind can handle non-binary circumstances and preferences

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By *nDnRnRCouple
over a year ago

Belfast, Dublin, London, Gran Canaria

I'm probably going to have the "straight police" on here telling me I'm bi, like they somehow know more about my own sexuality than I do.

But for me, even though I have no interest in men whatsoever, I find certain femme T-girls to be gorgeous and very sexy.

As does my wife, we would love to play with a warm, attractive bi T-girl. A chick with a dick, it's 2 for 1, something for everyone!!!

... What's not to love???

The thing that the lifestyle has thought us is to not bother with labels or having to conform to society's lofty ideals that we are all supposed to be completely monogamous & completely straight.

Because most of us (we believe) are not this way by nature. Its just that Society & Religion tries to make us all conform to being as such.

So in short, go for it!!. Nevermind the labels and what the straight police say!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The problem with labels is that they often come with internalised judgements whether we want them too or not. They can also be useful tools for figuring out who we are and communicating that to others. My suggestion would be to start out without worrying about the labels so that you know for yourself what you like, and only then start to think about how you might describe that, whatever it turns out to be.

Also, enjoying going somewhere on holiday doesn't mean you want to live there, and if you did live there it wouldn't be an escape anymore. Maybe the reason a lot of 'straight' guys like TV/TS is because it's a fantasy, which it stops being if you make it your full-time identity. It would at least explain why trans women on dating sites get pissed off with guys who want to sleep with them but aren't interested in a relationship.

If someone's only hooking up with you then it's not their business who else you sleep with. You either want the strings or you don't."

Thank god somebody with the same mindset as me....

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

Just live and let live

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It clearly does for some....the anger and homophobia that often comes out of these threads is mind blowing on a site such as this.."

HERE HERE ..... well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??"

As you can see, it’s mostly the straight couple who give the negative comments on this feed,

Who cares about labels and why would you feel the need to post a question on this forum like this.

You should know what you like when you like.

Discretion is the name of the game, I get 100’s of “straight married men” messaging me on here behind their wife’s back, and single “straight” guys asking to meet and send pictures, but too frighten to put on their profiles that they like tv’s because they say it puts the women off... they mean the straight homophobic women off !!!!

Be discreet and who needs to know,

If only 90% of the wife’s knew what their husband was up on here, trust me the Divorce rate would rocket....

live and let live.

Good luck

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

As you can see, it’s mostly the straight couple who give the negative comments on this feed,

Who cares about labels and why would you feel the need to post a question on this forum like this.

You should know what you like when you like.

Discretion is the name of the game, I get 100’s of “straight married men” messaging me on here behind their wife’s back, and single “straight” guys asking to meet and send pictures, but too frighten to put on their profiles that they like tv’s because they say it puts the women off... they mean the straight homophobic women off !!!!

Be discreet and who needs to know,

If only 90% of the wife’s knew what their husband was up on here, trust me the Divorce rate would rocket....

live and let live.

Good luck "

Agreed and the same here, and have no issues with straight men contacting me after all it's a compliment in a way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think I would have to be gay not to feel an attraction towards some of them who I have seen on this site. However that is as far as it will ever go for me. "

That is valid lol

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By *arex2Couple
over a year ago

Bradford


"Does it matter?"

No it bloody doesn't!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

As you can see, it’s mostly the straight couple who give the negative comments on this feed,

Who cares about labels and why would you feel the need to post a question on this forum like this.

You should know what you like when you like.

Discretion is the name of the game, I get 100’s of “straight married men” messaging me on here behind their wife’s back, and single “straight” guys asking to meet and send pictures, but too frighten to put on their profiles that they like tv’s because they say it puts the women off... they mean the straight homophobic women off !!!!

Be discreet and who needs to know,

If only 90% of the wife’s knew what their husband was up on here, trust me the Divorce rate would rocket....

live and let live.

Good luck "

Brilliant comments and absolutely spot on. Well said! x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

As you can see, it’s mostly the straight couple who give the negative comments on this feed,

Who cares about labels and why would you feel the need to post a question on this forum like this.

You should know what you like when you like.

Discretion is the name of the game, I get 100’s of “straight married men” messaging me on here behind their wife’s back, and single “straight” guys asking to meet and send pictures, but too frighten to put on their profiles that they like tv’s because they say it puts the women off... they mean the straight homophobic women off !!!!

Be discreet and who needs to know,

If only 90% of the wife’s knew what their husband was up on here, trust me the Divorce rate would rocket....

live and let live.

Good luck

Brilliant comments and absolutely spot on. Well said! x"

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Waffle as much as you like but if you have two guys involved in sexual activity you are at the very least bi.

If you fantasize about it you are curious.

You can waffle as much as you wish with your fellow travellers but it doesn't change the reality.

Not on planet fab and most certainly not in the real world.

I can actually respect those guys who are openly bi but how is it possible to respect a bloke who looks you straight in the eye and claims to be straight when he has a cock in his mouth?

I don't expect my dripping contempt for these guys to convince any to be more honest. They are too lost in delusion and wishfull thinking. I am simply making sure that their ridiculous claims to be straight do not go unchallenged.

Just because the claim about straight guys sucking cock is made so often on fab doesn't mean it has any truth whatsoever.

One of my motivations for repeatedly repudiating this nonsense commonly posted on fab is because I am cheesed off being solicited by guys offering me sex inspired by their sweaty palmed fantasy that ALL straight guys are actually up for it. Nonsense.

No doubt I will once again be accused of homophobia but those with even a modicum of common sense will realise my scathing contempt is entirely aimed not at the bi/gay community but those who insist that there is no such thing as straight (even while claiming description) and that given the right circumstances we are all bi.

There is a kind of group confirmation thing going on where you all tell yourselves that you are right.

But in your more sober moments you will recognise the huge gulf between your attitudes and what straight guys actually think.

You smelling the coffee yet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Waffle as much as you like but if you have two guys involved in sexual activity you are at the very least bi.

If you fantasize about it you are curious.

You can waffle as much as you wish with your fellow travellers but it doesn't change the reality.

Not on planet fab and most certainly not in the real world.

I can actually respect those guys who are openly bi but how is it possible to respect a bloke who looks you straight in the eye and claims to be straight when he has a cock in his mouth?

I don't expect my dripping contempt for these guys to convince any to be more honest. They are too lost in delusion and wishfull thinking. I am simply making sure that their ridiculous claims to be straight do not go unchallenged.

Just because the claim about straight guys sucking cock is made so often on fab doesn't mean it has any truth whatsoever.

One of my motivations for repeatedly repudiating this nonsense commonly posted on fab is because I am cheesed off being solicited by guys offering me sex inspired by their sweaty palmed fantasy that ALL straight guys are actually up for it. Nonsense.

No doubt I will once again be accused of homophobia but those with even a modicum of common sense will realise my scathing contempt is entirely aimed not at the bi/gay community but those who insist that there is no such thing as straight (even while claiming description) and that given the right circumstances we are all bi.

There is a kind of group confirmation thing going on where you all tell yourselves that you are right.

But in your more sober moments you will recognise the huge gulf between your attitudes and what straight guys actually think.

You smelling the coffee yet?

What are you going on about.... Yawn and even more yawning

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Waffle as much as you like but if you have two guys involved in sexual activity you are at the very least bi.

If you fantasize about it you are curious.

You can waffle as much as you wish with your fellow travellers but it doesn't change the reality.

Not on planet fab and most certainly not in the real world.

I can actually respect those guys who are openly bi but how is it possible to respect a bloke who looks you straight in the eye and claims to be straight when he has a cock in his mouth?

I don't expect my dripping contempt for these guys to convince any to be more honest. They are too lost in delusion and wishfull thinking. I am simply making sure that their ridiculous claims to be straight do not go unchallenged.

Just because the claim about straight guys sucking cock is made so often on fab doesn't mean it has any truth whatsoever.

One of my motivations for repeatedly repudiating this nonsense commonly posted on fab is because I am cheesed off being solicited by guys offering me sex inspired by their sweaty palmed fantasy that ALL straight guys are actually up for it. Nonsense.

No doubt I will once again be accused of homophobia but those with even a modicum of common sense will realise my scathing contempt is entirely aimed not at the bi/gay community but those who insist that there is no such thing as straight (even while claiming description) and that given the right circumstances we are all bi.

There is a kind of group confirmation thing going on where you all tell yourselves that you are right.

But in your more sober moments you will recognise the huge gulf between your attitudes and what straight guys actually think.

You smelling the coffee yet?

"

I know where you are coming from, but men aren't like they were in the 60s and women aren't either lol it is an actual fact that men are now weaker and women now drink pints of larger and fart in public because why shouldn't they? Lovely ladies lol truth is some of the TVs are more fem than fems and some of the women more butch then men, because little boys can be a crying princess and little girls don't need a man to save them... Is this fucked up? Seems some people can't cope with the fall out lol there is no gay or straight sex, there is just sex, recently in a shop a woman cashier said women's jeans to me, I said, no they are just jeans, total equality hurray lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fire me cannons from both Port and Starboard. At the same time as keeping my rudder straight and in the weather guage.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thank god somebody with the same mindset as me.... "

Thank you, that's very kind of you to say.


"I can actually respect those guys who are openly bi but how is it possible to respect a bloke who looks you straight in the eye and claims to be straight when he has a cock in his mouth?"

Now I'm suspicious that the flattery was just a lure... is this what you had in mind for your next slave?


"There is a kind of group confirmation thing going on where you all tell yourselves that you are right.

But in your more sober moments you will recognise the huge gulf between your attitudes and what straight guys actually think."

I appreciate your input as I think there is an element of truth to this as part of something which is more complicated.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol


"Waffle as much as you like but if you have two guys involved in sexual activity you are at the very least bi.

If you fantasize about it you are curious.

You can waffle as much as you wish with your fellow travellers but it doesn't change the reality.

Not on planet fab and most certainly not in the real world.

I can actually respect those guys who are openly bi but how is it possible to respect a bloke who looks you straight in the eye and claims to be straight when he has a cock in his mouth?

I don't expect my dripping contempt for these guys to convince any to be more honest. They are too lost in delusion and wishfull thinking. I am simply making sure that their ridiculous claims to be straight do not go unchallenged.

Just because the claim about straight guys sucking cock is made so often on fab doesn't mean it has any truth whatsoever.

One of my motivations for repeatedly repudiating this nonsense commonly posted on fab is because I am cheesed off being solicited by guys offering me sex inspired by their sweaty palmed fantasy that ALL straight guys are actually up for it. Nonsense.

No doubt I will once again be accused of homophobia but those with even a modicum of common sense will realise my scathing contempt is entirely aimed not at the bi/gay community but those who insist that there is no such thing as straight (even while claiming description) and that given the right circumstances we are all bi.

There is a kind of group confirmation thing going on where you all tell yourselves that you are right.

But in your more sober moments you will recognise the huge gulf between your attitudes and what straight guys actually think.

You smelling the coffee yet?

"

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information,which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance--that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

-Herbert Spencer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve never been with a TV but it has been on my bucket list to try this..! I’m looking to see if anybody could help me

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"I’ve never been with a TV but it has been on my bucket list to try this..! I’m looking to see if anybody could help me "

No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’ve never been with a TV but it has been on my bucket list to try this..! I’m looking to see if anybody could help me

No"
ok

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"I’ve never been with a TV but it has been on my bucket list to try this..! I’m looking to see if anybody could help me

No ok "

But I do love you x

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By *winger212Woman
over a year ago

Live in spain

No you can't be straight but sure what harm is in it. I mainly watch men with men as they have fun and the majority will have straight up.

Enjoy the view and if you like it then what's the harm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’ve never been with a TV but it has been on my bucket list to try this..! I’m looking to see if anybody could help me

No ok

But I do love you x"
oooh do you now...?

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"I’ve never been with a TV but it has been on my bucket list to try this..! I’m looking to see if anybody could help me

No ok

But I do love you x oooh do you now...? "

Yep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’ve never been with a TV but it has been on my bucket list to try this..! I’m looking to see if anybody could help me

No ok

But I do love you x oooh do you now...?

Yep"
pm me if your serious

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"I’ve never been with a TV but it has been on my bucket list to try this..! I’m looking to see if anybody could help me

No ok

But I do love you x oooh do you now...?

Yep pm me if your serious "

It lockdown

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"maybecit depends on what it is that is turning you on about them and making you feel horny about them...x

For me the more feminine the better, I guess it's the fact that anal is definitely on the cards but some women aren't into that! lol "

Not all tv's or trans gender definitley want anal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Waffle as much as you like but if you have two guys involved in sexual activity you are at the very least bi.

If you fantasize about it you are curious.

You can waffle as much as you wish with your fellow travellers but it doesn't change the reality.

Not on planet fab and most certainly not in the real world.

I can actually respect those guys who are openly bi but how is it possible to respect a bloke who looks you straight in the eye and claims to be straight when he has a cock in his mouth?

I don't expect my dripping contempt for these guys to convince any to be more honest. They are too lost in delusion and wishfull thinking. I am simply making sure that their ridiculous claims to be straight do not go unchallenged.

Just because the claim about straight guys sucking cock is made so often on fab doesn't mean it has any truth whatsoever.

One of my motivations for repeatedly repudiating this nonsense commonly posted on fab is because I am cheesed off being solicited by guys offering me sex inspired by their sweaty palmed fantasy that ALL straight guys are actually up for it. Nonsense.

No doubt I will once again be accused of homophobia but those with even a modicum of common sense will realise my scathing contempt is entirely aimed not at the bi/gay community but those who insist that there is no such thing as straight (even while claiming description) and that given the right circumstances we are all bi.

There is a kind of group confirmation thing going on where you all tell yourselves that you are right.

But in your more sober moments you will recognise the huge gulf between your attitudes and what straight guys actually think.

You smelling the coffee yet?

I know where you are coming from, but men aren't like they were in the 60s and women aren't either lol it is an actual fact that men are now weaker and women now drink pints of larger and fart in public because why shouldn't they? Lovely ladies lol truth is some of the TVs are more fem than fems and some of the women more butch then men, because little boys can be a crying princess and little girls don't need a man to save them... Is this fucked up? Seems some people can't cope with the fall out lol there is no gay or straight sex, there is just sex, recently in a shop a woman cashier said women's jeans to me, I said, no they are just jeans, total equality hurray lol "

Well said the above poster!

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By *hades Of GreyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

There are many _hades of grey!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think so. Some look a absolutely stunning and feminine esp those in the transition period

Who should pass judgement anyway. Do and look at what you enjoy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can be truly fab straight

Lol love this, i was straight before fab

And fab changed you "

I guess we are all somewhere on a scale of 0-100 . Maybe this can change with age and circumstances x

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By *exfordMan
over a year ago

discombobulated land


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??"

What does it matter, it's just a word... Straight, bisexual, gay...

Just do what you enjoy, it's 2020...

Well, maybe change that to.. Just do what you want eventually... It's 2021,2,3,4,5???????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"maybecit depends on what it is that is turning you on about them and making you feel horny about them...x

For me the more feminine the better, I guess it's the fact that anal is definitely on the cards but some women aren't into that! lol

Not all tv's or trans gender definitley want anal "

Absolutely this

The same way not all hetero people want anal. Seems to be a common misconception when it comes to Tgirls Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

No"

Funny how you have gone really quiet !!!!!

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

No

Funny how you have gone really quiet !!!!! "

Please dont encourage them,it is like a dog with a bone..

Me thinks he protest too much!

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

No

Funny how you have gone really quiet !!!!!

Please dont encourage them,it is like a dog with a bone..

Me thinks he protest too much!"

PMSL

Is that the best you could back at me with?

How long did you have the concentrate?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In into trans people but I'd class myself as bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get a lot of straight guys look at my pics dont read profile and when I tell them I'm a full op ts then the insults start to flow it even says tv ts on heading a lot of bi guys want a chick with dick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

No

Funny how you have gone really quiet !!!!! "
hi you look nice

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

No

Funny how you have gone really quiet !!!!! "

What?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

No

Funny how you have gone really quiet !!!!!

What?"
hi where you from

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

No

Funny how you have gone really quiet !!!!!

What? hi where you from "

We have spoke before

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

No

Funny how you have gone really quiet !!!!!

What? hi where you from

We have spoke before "
have we

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No bi or gay if you want to fuck a man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

No

Funny how you have gone really quiet !!!!!

What? hi where you from

We have spoke before "
private message me

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

No

Funny how you have gone really quiet !!!!!

What? hi where you from

We have spoke before have we "

Yes we have and you emailed me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes absolutely fine, I do it all the time

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??

No

Funny how you have gone really quiet !!!!!

What? hi where you from

We have spoke before private message me "

No

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By *olyester123Couple
over a year ago

Cambridgeshire

We are looking to meet a tv for karen to have sex with I have a fantasy about joining in but not sure I would have the courage though

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By *erry bull1Man
over a year ago

doncaster

I’ve always admired tvs from a early age after visiting a drag show in Germany

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster


"I’ve always admired tvs from a early age after visiting a drag show in Germany "
there's a big difference between drag queens and trans people tho ?

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By *erry bull1Man
over a year ago

doncaster

I know sinful-bunty, I’ve had fun with some . One in particular remains in my thoughts

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster


"I know sinful-bunty, I’ve had fun with some . One in particular remains in my thoughts "
is she a jockey ?

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By *erry bull1Man
over a year ago

doncaster

One of them but the most memorable one knows who she is ( has a friend called peaches )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Left

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster


"One of them but the most memorable one knows who she is ( has a friend called peaches )"
ohhh I think I know who you mean

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Waffle as much as you like but if you have two guys involved in sexual activity you are at the very least bi.

If you fantasize about it you are curious.

You can waffle as much as you wish with your fellow travellers but it doesn't change the reality.

Not on planet fab and most certainly not in the real world.

I can actually respect those guys who are openly bi but how is it possible to respect a bloke who looks you straight in the eye and claims to be straight when he has a cock in his mouth?

I don't expect my dripping contempt for these guys to convince any to be more honest. They are too lost in delusion and wishfull thinking. I am simply making sure that their ridiculous claims to be straight do not go unchallenged.

Just because the claim about straight guys sucking cock is made so often on fab doesn't mean it has any truth whatsoever.

One of my motivations for repeatedly repudiating this nonsense commonly posted on fab is because I am cheesed off being solicited by guys offering me sex inspired by their sweaty palmed fantasy that ALL straight guys are actually up for it. Nonsense.

No doubt I will once again be accused of homophobia but those with even a modicum of common sense will realise my scathing contempt is entirely aimed not at the bi/gay community but those who insist that there is no such thing as straight (even while claiming description) and that given the right circumstances we are all bi.

There is a kind of group confirmation thing going on where you all tell yourselves that you are right.

But in your more sober moments you will recognise the huge gulf between your attitudes and what straight guys actually think.

You smelling the coffee yet?

"

All this shit for a shag....

A mission my dear you'll never win - for justice and honesty...

The bottom line is (excuse the pun) It's their life - and that my dearest is where they don't have to be HONEST!

One sugar lump or two?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Couple of points from me ,one of the above saying I don’t believe in labels etc , but in he’s profile he’s asking for a bi female for he’s wife ? Ain’t that a label .

If a man has sex , fuck suck with another man , even if there in pants and a wig they are not straight , if I was to put a lettuce leaf around a beef burger and eat it , can I still be classed as a vegetarian? No

We have labels for a reason, if you want to have sex with a man your bi , it’s not rocket science

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think I would have to be gay not to feel an attraction towards some of them who I have seen on this site. However that is as far as it will ever go for me. "

That’s where you go wrong, as most gay men I know are attracted to men, not “men” in a dress that look like women

Now, if you were a man attracted to a woman who transitioned to a man, I’d be wondering if ur attraction is towards the masculinity and man features

It’s a difficult topic but it annoys the hell out of me when you hear some people not in your or their shoes, absolutely state “it’s impossible, you must be gay” and to tgirls “you are still a man with a lipstick on”

Oh and for the references, seems like this world IS full of men liking “men with a lippy on”...

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"Since lockdown I've found myself looking at TV/TS profiles and chatting to one or two, finding them quite horny...Can you be truly straight if that turns you on? ??"

Only if they are a male to female post op TS

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Couple of points from me ,one of the above saying I don’t believe in labels etc , but in he’s profile he’s asking for a bi female for he’s wife ? Ain’t that a label .

If a man has sex , fuck suck with another man , even if there in pants and a wig they are not straight , if I was to put a lettuce leaf around a beef burger and eat it , can I still be classed as a vegetarian? No

We have labels for a reason, if you want to have sex with a man your bi , it’s not rocket science "

So those people who have fun with a sex toy dolls that resembles porn stars (talking of the high quality ones you can buy for a few grand, or rent apparently there’s a business ), they must really be into silicone cos that’s what they are essentially made of, or born as ...

or is it more the fact that it’s meant to resemble something that you find attractive ..

most of the time is the sexiness and femininity, and boobs and peachy arse and big lips (all features jack doesn’t have)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But they can get all that from a real woman,they are fucking a bloke he has a cock , I love fucking asses but I wouldn’t fuck a woman dressed up as a bloke , they don’t have what I want or turns me on , are they only fucking cd/ TVs because there too afraid to be bi or gay , and think a bloke dressed up as a woman is ok as there wearing ladies clothes and lipstick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But they can get all that from a real woman,they are fucking a bloke he has a cock , I love fucking asses but I wouldn’t fuck a woman dressed up as a bloke , they don’t have what I want or turns me on , are they only fucking cd/ TVs because there too afraid to be bi or gay , and think a bloke dressed up as a woman is ok as there wearing ladies clothes and lipstick "

Not necessarily as (this sometimes can be the problem) they want the fantasy of porn. And I guess a lot of girls who are tv or trans can be highly sexual or willing to try things most (I say most but maybe I’m wrong) women are too prude to try out sexually.

Whether it’s deep anal, or more graphic forward things that I won’t go into details

And either way, with the guys I meet, 90% aren’t even about my extra bit, then there’s the 10% that have a curiosity or fascination . Maybe because it’s taboo

Then again, the guys who ask their gfs to peg them from time to time, or finger them when sucking them off, does that make them gay and want a Virile man cock up the bum? I’d say most of the times, answer is no

But anyway, I must be a mythical creature then

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By *iscreteBiBuilderMan
over a year ago

Bury

Clearly not straight, just face it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Clearly not straight, just face it"

Haha apparently you also are a mythical creature, how many times I’ve heard, bisexuality doesn’t exist really . You are just gay.

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By *atindollTV/TS
over a year ago

edinburgh


"It clearly does for some....the anger and homophobia that often comes out of these threads is mind blowing on a site such as this..

I agree with you.

However simply pointing out the illogicality of two guys having sex together but claiming to be straight is not homophobic. "

When I have sex I 100% play the female,I keep most of my clothes on during sex so I feel a lot of the men that meet me are in their mind convincing themselves it's no different to a bj and anal sex with a woman...and let's face it,it isnt,so I dont see them as gay or bi just men who want sex,some TVs like their clit/cock sucked or to switch and do the fucking...in that case I see the guys as gay or bi.

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By *orruptedCoupleCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Don’t worry about the label. Just be you and enjoy it.

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By *100Man
over a year ago

Essex

Some are very sexy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Couple of points from me ,one of the above saying I don’t believe in labels etc , but in he’s profile he’s asking for a bi female for he’s wife ? Ain’t that a label .

If a man has sex , fuck suck with another man , even if there in pants and a wig they are not straight , if I was to put a lettuce leaf around a beef burger and eat it , can I still be classed as a vegetarian? No

We have labels for a reason, if you want to have sex with a man your bi , it’s not rocket science

So those people who have fun with a sex toy dolls that resembles porn stars (talking of the high quality ones you can buy for a few grand, or rent apparently there’s a business ), they must really be into silicone cos that’s what they are essentially made of, or born as ...

or is it more the fact that it’s meant to resemble something that you find attractive ..

most of the time is the sexiness and femininity, and boobs and peachy arse and big lips (all features jack doesn’t have)"

Love this response

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By *nnnikCouple
over a year ago

Walsall


"i consider my meets as hetrosexual as men have sex with me,obs i'm very lgbtq friendly but never think of me in male mode having sex with men when i'm tina."

Born a male are a male, just because you wear a dress don't make you a woman. Nik

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Couple of points from me ,one of the above saying I don’t believe in labels etc , but in he’s profile he’s asking for a bi female for he’s wife ? Ain’t that a label .

If a man has sex , fuck suck with another man , even if there in pants and a wig they are not straight , if I was to put a lettuce leaf around a beef burger and eat it , can I still be classed as a vegetarian? No

We have labels for a reason, if you want to have sex with a man your bi , it’s not rocket science

So those people who have fun with a sex toy dolls that resembles porn stars (talking of the high quality ones you can buy for a few grand, or rent apparently there’s a business ), they must really be into silicone cos that’s what they are essentially made of, or born as ...

or is it more the fact that it’s meant to resemble something that you find attractive ..

most of the time is the sexiness and femininity, and boobs and peachy arse and big lips (all features jack doesn’t have)

Love this response "

Glad to hear, and sometimes some can be even sexier or more feminine than a lot of women out there!

Think of some Brazilian tgirls or Thai (Who maybe started so young you can’t tell them apart unless u strip them naked and even then, some are fully full op)

But anyway.

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By *icola_GirlieTV/TS
over a year ago

20 mins from Brighton

Why so worried, it's just a label. If it's something you like then what's the big issue

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By *lbatross77Man
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Why so worried, it's just a label. If it's something you like then what's the big issue "

Exactly! I'm not going to deny myself all that pleasure and fun because of some stupid labels. Just enjoy whatever rocks your boat!

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By *artyanna16200TV/TS
over a year ago

leeds

Winning comment

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By *artyanna16200TV/TS
over a year ago

leeds

an aussie friend came out with the quote when we were talking about the response to questions abour sexuality , she said a friend of hers had been asked if he was gay , he replied , “ no but i fucked a guy who was once”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a proper confusing situation..... I've not been fortunate to taste the forbidden fruit yet but I don't 100% know how to define tasting that fruit that's apparently sweeter personally only turned on by the feminism sass n naughtyness of that bit different although yet to try I Thu k it boils down to aesthetics and the naughty factor but hey .... m new x

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By *eresa_cdslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Bodmin

I was straight until I met a transvestite in the woods one day, she plied me with wine in her camper van and soon had my shorts off ! The rest is history!

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham


"Waffle as much as you like but if you have two guys involved in sexual activity you are at the very least bi.

If you fantasize about it you are curious.

You can waffle as much as you wish with your fellow travellers but it doesn't change the reality.

Not on planet fab and most certainly not in the real world.

I can actually respect those guys who are openly bi but how is it possible to respect a bloke who looks you straight in the eye and claims to be straight when he has a cock in his mouth?

I don't expect my dripping contempt for these guys to convince any to be more honest. They are too lost in delusion and wishfull thinking. I am simply making sure that their ridiculous claims to be straight do not go unchallenged.

Just because the claim about straight guys sucking cock is made so often on fab doesn't mean it has any truth whatsoever.

One of my motivations for repeatedly repudiating this nonsense commonly posted on fab is because I am cheesed off being solicited by guys offering me sex inspired by their sweaty palmed fantasy that ALL straight guys are actually up for it. Nonsense.

No doubt I will once again be accused of homophobia but those with even a modicum of common sense will realise my scathing contempt is entirely aimed not at the bi/gay community but those who insist that there is no such thing as straight (even while claiming description) and that given the right circumstances we are all bi.

There is a kind of group confirmation thing going on where you all tell yourselves that you are right.

But in your more sober moments you will recognise the huge gulf between your attitudes and what straight guys actually think.

You smelling the coffee yet?

"

Have a day off.

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire


"Couple of points from me ,one of the above saying I don’t believe in labels etc , but in he’s profile he’s asking for a bi female for he’s wife ? Ain’t that a label .

If a man has sex , fuck suck with another man , even if there in pants and a wig they are not straight , if I was to put a lettuce leaf around a beef burger and eat it , can I still be classed as a vegetarian? No

We have labels for a reason, if you want to have sex with a man your bi , it’s not rocket science

So those people who have fun with a sex toy dolls that resembles porn stars (talking of the high quality ones you can buy for a few grand, or rent apparently there’s a business ), they must really be into silicone cos that’s what they are essentially made of, or born as ...

or is it more the fact that it’s meant to resemble something that you find attractive ..

most of the time is the sexiness and femininity, and boobs and peachy arse and big lips (all features jack doesn’t have)

Love this response

Glad to hear, and sometimes some can be even sexier or more feminine than a lot of women out there!

Think of some Brazilian tgirls or Thai (Who maybe started so young you can’t tell them apart unless u strip them naked and even then, some are fully full op)

But anyway. "

It's because some women don't feel we have to conform to fit into this "feminine role" 24/7... I'm certainly all woman biologically as i have ovaries and bleed once month..yes not a bloody nice experience may I add. So why do I need to be so sexy and feminine all the time just to please a man? I don't. I can put on the charm if I feel like it and the man deserves it but I don't do it to prove what "a woman" I am!

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By *atex and KinkCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh

The whole gender, sexuality thing is a simple mathematical statistical bell curve.

The more points on it the better the curve is.

Take your fab choices of gay, bi, bi curious, straight, Male, female, cd/tv.

That is 7 points making a very pointy bell curve.

Completely inaccurate assessment of the gender, sexuality of the Fab populous

Hence these types of debates.

As an individual you could be at a point on the curve at any time of your life.

In conclusion

Labels are a conformity for the masses.

Break the mould! Be you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This was an interesting read but have to say that 1 couple in particular come off as being very narrow minded and actually really rude. Bulldozing your opinion over others just makes you look like as ass hole!

Back to OP, does it matter? Do what makes you happy. You could do a lot worse than explore your curiosities with a tv tho x

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Let's finish with a quote from Derek Jarman;

" All men are homosexual, some turn straight.

It must be very odd to be a straight man because your sexuality is hopelessly defensive.It's like an idea of racial purity."

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