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"If they do they're arguably not straight " | |||
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"Do any of you straight guys enjoy receiving a hand or blow job from another guy without having to give anything in return" * bi guys. | |||
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You like what you like, so who cares | |||
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"Do sexuality labels really matter though...
You like what you like, so who cares "Labels help you find what you want. The problem is that the labelling system on fab is very basic. So "straight" people who are happy to receive oral or hand-jobs from the same gender but not reciprocate are technically 'Bi-selfish'. There's also 'top' or 'bottom', depending on whether you are giving or receiving. | |||
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"Do any of you straight guys enjoy receiving a hand or blow job from another guy without having to give anything in return" I can confirm that many do as long as their kink is involved in the moment  | |||
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"Pointless thread, they aren't straight" They’re FAB straight. | |||
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"Do sexuality labels really matter though...
You like what you like, so who cares
Labels help you find what you want.
The problem is that the labelling system on fab is very basic.
So "straight" people who are happy to receive oral or hand-jobs from the same gender but not reciprocate are technically 'Bi-selfish'.
There's also 'top' or 'bottom', depending on whether you are giving or receiving.
"Bi-selfish Excellent word!
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"Do any of you straight guys enjoy receiving a hand or blow job from another guy without having to give anything in return" . I don’t get how you can call yourself a straight guy if you enjoy receiving a hand or blow job from another guy surely you are bi curious or gay | |||
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"Do sexuality labels really matter though...
You like what you like, so who cares "I think labels do matter. If you bought a tin of beans and it turned out to be dogfood you'd not be happy. We are happy to play with bi guys as long as they're honest and we can have the discussion about playing totally straight. Occasionally play has been ruined by a "straight" guy grabbing my partner's cock. It's a total turn off for both of us and play stops there. | |||
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"Do any of you straight guys enjoy receiving a hand or blow job from another guy without having to give anything in return I can confirm that many do as long as their kink is involved in the moment "And your belief that these guys are straight is founded on what exactly? The claim in their profile that they are straight? Even applying the bare minimum of common sense would suggest to me that these guys might be fibbing. Actions speak louder than words. | |||
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"Do any of you straight guys enjoy receiving a hand or blow job from another guy without having to give anything in return I can confirm that many do as long as their kink is involved in the moment
And your belief that these guys are straight is founded on what exactly?
The claim in their profile that they are straight?
Even applying the bare minimum of common sense would suggest to me that these guys might be fibbing. Actions speak louder than words."I don't care about labels I'm just open to what people want, If they enjoy something why not | |||
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"Its happened to me once that I was tricked into a party happening with 4 couples and when I showed up it was just me and this guy. Lets just say I was ready to go.. lol He offered a nice BJ while I watched straight porn and he finished me off. So yes it did/does happen, and I didn't help him out other then offering my cock for him to suck. This was years before I started playing with guys. I am picky so if I meet the intention is oral both ways now. MMF perferred if possible." A very similar thing happened to me in the early days, I was asked over to 'a couples' house, only it wasn't a couple at all. Just a single man. I thought it was quite predatory and left immediately. I've recently changed my profile to Bi curious. I'm happy to play with a male of a couple if thats required of me. There's still a huge stigma I think regarding bisexuality. I also understand its just some peoples preference not to meet a bisexual guy. Swings and roundtables. | |||
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"I think open minded is the way forward. However, I totally understand if people are dishonest to try and get something from someone else. Their reasons could be that they're in denial or don't want to be judged, but equally it could just be they say what they think people want to hear. So labels don't matter so much, it's honesty and integrity that count. " Absolutely it's honesty and integrity that are most important but given that the majority of guys on here that "say" they are straight (but are actually bi) do so as a means to get round other peoples preferences I'd say they fail on both counts. I always figure that if someone is lying about their sexuality what else are they lying about? Their marital status? Their sexual health beliefs? I do understand the "labels aren't necessary" argument in the context of the world in general but on a site like this they have a great deal of relevance to be able to find like minded people and also to be able to spot those that are being deceitful. | |||
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"Don't have to be bi if it's only a wank, bit like saying if a woman goes with other men she's a slag. We are swingers so open minded. " . Yes swingers are open minded and some want to or are willing to experiment. I wouldn’t say a woman is a slag if she goes with other men.However if I was with a couple and the man asked if I could wank him off I would tell him I am straight and I would then leave.There is open minded and there is knowing your mind.I know my mind | |||
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"I think open minded is the way forward. However, I totally understand if people are dishonest to try and get something from someone else. Their reasons could be that they're in denial or don't want to be judged, but equally it could just be they say what they think people want to hear. So labels don't matter so much, it's honesty and integrity that count. Absolutely it's honesty and integrity that are most important but given that the majority of guys on here that "say" they are straight (but are actually bi) do so as a means to get round other peoples preferences I'd say they fail on both counts. I always figure that if someone is lying about their sexuality what else are they lying about? Their marital status? Their sexual health beliefs? I do understand the "labels aren't necessary" argument in the context of the world in general but on a site like this they have a great deal of relevance to be able to find like minded people and also to be able to spot those that are being deceitful." Well said | |||
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"The majority of guys enjoy observing a cock (other than their own) and it is such a turn on.... With the right mind set and encouragement, it is such a small step to be 'tempted'.. Come on guys..admit it.." Sorry but that is an absolutely huge generalisation - there are many guys I know that wouldn't look twice at another cock, and are actually turned off completely by the idea of playing with one - sure there are *some* guys who may have idle curiosity about doing so, but never act on it, and those whose curiosity is stronger, and then of course those who do act on it, and those whose only interest is cocks - it's all part of the spectrum of sexuality But to say the *majority* of guys "enjoy observing a cock" is very wide of the mark and as I said a generalisation | |||
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"The majority of guys enjoy observing a cock (other than their own) and it is such a turn on.... With the right mind set and encouragement, it is such a small step to be 'tempted'.. Come on guys..admit it.. Sorry but that is an absolutely huge generalisation - there are many guys I know that wouldn't look twice at another cock, and are actually turned off completely by the idea of playing with one - sure there are *some* guys who may have idle curiosity about doing so, but never act on it, and those whose curiosity is stronger, and then of course those who do act on it, and those whose only interest is cocks - it's all part of the spectrum of sexuality But to say the *majority* of guys "enjoy observing a cock" is very wide of the mark and as I said a generalisation" Lol. Dont spoil his fantasy. So many bi/gay guys desperately want to believe that given the right set of circumstamces ALL straight guys are actually up for a bit of bi play. Nothing will diminish the hold this fantasy has over their opinion. Reality is ignored. | |||
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"Do sexuality labels really matter though...
You like what you like, so who cares "That's how i see things | |||
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"Pointless thread, they aren't straight They’re FAB straight. " This | |||
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"How many so called straight guys on here watch thier wife or partner getting fucked by another guy and get turned on watching another guys cock slip in and out of her seems to me your still getting turned on by cock " Top comment . | |||
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"The majority of guys enjoy observing a cock (other than their own) and it is such a turn on.... With the right mind set and encouragement, it is such a small step to be 'tempted'.. Come on guys..admit it.. Sorry but that is an absolutely huge generalisation - there are many guys I know that wouldn't look twice at another cock, and are actually turned off completely by the idea of playing with one - sure there are *some* guys who may have idle curiosity about doing so, but never act on it, and those whose curiosity is stronger, and then of course those who do act on it, and those whose only interest is cocks - it's all part of the spectrum of sexuality But to say the *majority* of guys "enjoy observing a cock" is very wide of the mark and as I said a generalisation Lol. Dont spoil his fantasy. So many bi/gay guys desperately want to believe that given the right set of circumstamces ALL straight guys are actually up for a bit of bi play. Nothing will diminish the hold this fantasy has over their opinion. Reality is ignored." I was with you up until the second paragraph which makes as big a generalisation as the one I was countering with the "So many" and "desperately" comment - while I'm aware there is a niche element in the bi/gay community that revel in the idea of "turning" a straight guy, I don't think it's a "so many" situation at all, and in fact your comment almost ponders to the "bi/gay men can't keep their hands off a cock, any cock" school of thought. I'm openly bisexual and have absolutely no interest in playing with another guy whose sexuality precludes playing with me, nor do I make assumptions that with a bit of persuasion they might do. | |||
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"How many so called straight guys on here watch thier wife or partner getting fucked by another guy and get turned on watching another guys cock slip in and out of her seems to me your still getting turned on by cock " No, they're getting turned on by the sight of their wife with someone who is not them and may have mild cuckold tendencies at most - it's not the cock that is turning them on but the situation. | |||
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"Just checked my label says I'm a large haha " Not large curious?  | |||
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"Just checked my label says I'm a large haha Not large curious? " | |||
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"Just checked my label says I'm a large haha Not large curious?
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"The majority of guys enjoy observing a cock (other than their own) and it is such a turn on.... With the right mind set and encouragement, it is such a small step to be 'tempted'.. Come on guys..admit it.. Sorry but that is an absolutely huge generalisation - there are many guys I know that wouldn't look twice at another cock, and are actually turned off completely by the idea of playing with one - sure there are *some* guys who may have idle curiosity about doing so, but never act on it, and those whose curiosity is stronger, and then of course those who do act on it, and those whose only interest is cocks - it's all part of the spectrum of sexuality But to say the *majority* of guys "enjoy observing a cock" is very wide of the mark and as I said a generalisation Lol. Dont spoil his fantasy. So many bi/gay guys desperately want to believe that given the right set of circumstamces ALL straight guys are actually up for a bit of bi play. Nothing will diminish the hold this fantasy has over their opinion. Reality is ignored. I was with you up until the second paragraph which makes as big a generalisation as the one I was countering with the "So many" and "desperately" comment - while I'm aware there is a niche element in the bi/gay community that revel in the idea of "turning" a straight guy, I don't think it's a "so many" situation at all, and in fact your comment almost ponders to the "bi/gay men can't keep their hands off a cock, any cock" school of thought. I'm openly bisexual and have absolutely no interest in playing with another guy whose sexuality precludes playing with me, nor do I make assumptions that with a bit of persuasion they might do." Thanks for the post and I genuinely appreciate hearing your view but I think I will stand by the "so many" comment. I cannot comment on the wider bi and gay community but on Fab this straight guy fantasy seems endemic. Very far from a niche element in fact. But like I said my attitude on this issue is formed by my experience on fab only. So we might in fact both be correct. | |||
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"I think open minded is the way forward. However, I totally understand if people are dishonest to try and get something from someone else. Their reasons could be that they're in denial or don't want to be judged, but equally it could just be they say what they think people want to hear. So labels don't matter so much, it's honesty and integrity that count. " If labels matter to some people, they matter. I don't want anything to do with a man sexually if he likes sucking cocks, taking them up his arse, or penetrating men's bum holes. So the bi label matters a hell of a lot, to me. If it don’t matter to you, great. But you can't assert that they shouldn’t matter. Hell, condoms don't matter to lots of people on Fab. But they wouldn’t assert that condoms don’t matter at all. | |||
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"I think open minded is the way forward. However, I totally understand if people are dishonest to try and get something from someone else. Their reasons could be that they're in denial or don't want to be judged, but equally it could just be they say what they think people want to hear. So labels don't matter so much, it's honesty and integrity that count. If labels matter to some people, they matter. I don't want anything to do with a man sexually if he likes sucking cocks, taking them up his arse, or penetrating men's bum holes. So the bi label matters a hell of a lot, to me. If it don’t matter to you, great. But you can't assert that they shouldn’t matter. Hell, condoms don't matter to lots of people on Fab. But they wouldn’t assert that condoms don’t matter at all. " I respect your choice. But the problem is that there are a lot of men on this site who label themselves straight, who aren't. | |||
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"How many so called straight guys on here watch thier wife or partner getting fucked by another guy and get turned on watching another guys cock slip in and out of her seems to me your still getting turned on by cock No, they're getting turned on by the sight of their wife with someone who is not them and may have mild cuckold tendencies at most - it's not the cock that is turning them on but the situation." . I agree with Gemini Man the guy is probably getting turned on by watching his wife been pleasured by another guy and he may well join in the pleasure of his wife in the form of a spit roast or DP | |||
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"I think open minded is the way forward. However, I totally understand if people are dishonest to try and get something from someone else. Their reasons could be that they're in denial or don't want to be judged, but equally it could just be they say what they think people want to hear. So labels don't matter so much, it's honesty and integrity that count. If labels matter to some people, they matter. I don't want anything to do with a man sexually if he likes sucking cocks, taking them up his arse, or penetrating men's bum holes. So the bi label matters a hell of a lot, to me. If it don’t matter to you, great. But you can't assert that they shouldn’t matter. Hell, condoms don't matter to lots of people on Fab. But they wouldn’t assert that condoms don’t matter at all. " This pretty much changes my mind. Labels matter. | |||
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"Don't have to be bi if it's only a wank, bit like saying if a woman goes with other men she's a slag. We are swingers so open minded. " No it's really not 'a bit like' that. Not even a tiny bit. | |||
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"I think open minded is the way forward. However, I totally understand if people are dishonest to try and get something from someone else. Their reasons could be that they're in denial or don't want to be judged, but equally it could just be they say what they think people want to hear. So labels don't matter so much, it's honesty and integrity that count. If labels matter to some people, they matter. I don't want anything to do with a man sexually if he likes sucking cocks, taking them up his arse, or penetrating men's bum holes. So the bi label matters a hell of a lot, to me. If it don’t matter to you, great. But you can't assert that they shouldn’t matter. Hell, condoms don't matter to lots of people on Fab. But they wouldn’t assert that condoms don’t matter at all. I respect your choice. But the problem is that there are a lot of men on this site who label themselves straight, who aren't. " Exactly that, which comes back to the points made about honesty and integrity being important and why that makes labels relevant here - although in the case of those that are deceitful about their sexuality in order to get round the "preferences" of others honesty and integrity don't appear to matter. All that sadly means LoudLoutishLover that you may well have been with a "straight" guy who is anything but and you'll have no way of knowing for sure. Obviously there's nothing that can be done to force people to label themselves truthfully, which is why you ultimately have to use your instincts, ask relevant questions and place a good deal of faith in someone showing some honesty and integrity. Personally I'd rather be open and honest about my sexuality, and meet people who are interested in meeting me regardless of it, than deceive someone who wouldn't be interested in me otherwise | |||
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"Don't have to be bi if it's only a wank, bit like saying if a woman goes with other men she's a slag. We are swingers so open minded. No it's really not 'a bit like' that. Not even a tiny bit. "  | |||
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"Do sexuality labels really matter though...
You like what you like, so who cares
I think labels do matter. If you bought a tin of beans and it turned out to be dogfood you'd not be happy. We are happy to play with bi guys as long as they're honest and we can have the discussion about playing totally straight. Occasionally play has been ruined by a "straight" guy grabbing my partner's cock. It's a total turn off for both of us and play stops there. "This would literally send me over the edge honestly straight is straight, not every line needs to be blurred | |||
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"I think open minded is the way forward. However, I totally understand if people are dishonest to try and get something from someone else. Their reasons could be that they're in denial or don't want to be judged, but equally it could just be they say what they think people want to hear. So labels don't matter so much, it's honesty and integrity that count. If labels matter to some people, they matter. I don't want anything to do with a man sexually if he likes sucking cocks, taking them up his arse, or penetrating men's bum holes. So the bi label matters a hell of a lot, to me. If it don’t matter to you, great. But you can't assert that they shouldn’t matter. Hell, condoms don't matter to lots of people on Fab. But they wouldn’t assert that condoms don’t matter at all. I respect your choice. But the problem is that there are a lot of men on this site who label themselves straight, who aren't. " And some couples.. | |||
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"Most of the straight guys we meet end up being a lot less straight than their profile suggests. " There should be a fab straight option I reckon ???? | |||
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"Do sexuality labels really matter though...
You like what you like, so who cares "Hallelujah to this my sentiments exactly sex and the joy and pleasure it brings is just that....beauty.... anyway x | |||
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"Loads of straight guys love to play secretly " Do you seriously believe they're straight? | |||
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"Loads of straight guys love to play secretly Do you seriously believe they're straight? " They pretend to be straight. He pretends to believe them. | |||
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"I think open minded is the way forward. However, I totally understand if people are dishonest to try and get something from someone else. Their reasons could be that they're in denial or don't want to be judged, but equally it could just be they say what they think people want to hear. So labels don't matter so much, it's honesty and integrity that count. If labels matter to some people, they matter. I don't want anything to do with a man sexually if he likes sucking cocks, taking them up his arse, or penetrating men's bum holes. So the bi label matters a hell of a lot, to me. If it don’t matter to you, great. But you can't assert that they shouldn’t matter. Hell, condoms don't matter to lots of people on Fab. But they wouldn’t assert that condoms don’t matter at all. " This is exactly why I am open about my bi curiosity. Were I to hide that side of me it wouldn't be fair to the person I'm with or to myself. Were I to hide who I am for the sake of a fuck I'd feel tainted. | |||
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"Very true and since being on here my bi side is starting to grow a bit more " like I said I appreciate all naked bodies | |||
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"I think open minded is the way forward. However, I totally understand if people are dishonest to try and get something from someone else. Their reasons could be that they're in denial or don't want to be judged, but equally it could just be they say what they think people want to hear. So labels don't matter so much, it's honesty and integrity that count. If labels matter to some people, they matter. I don't want anything to do with a man sexually if he likes sucking cocks, taking them up his arse, or penetrating men's bum holes. So the bi label matters a hell of a lot, to me. If it don’t matter to you, great. But you can't assert that they shouldn’t matter. Hell, condoms don't matter to lots of people on Fab. But they wouldn’t assert that condoms don’t matter at all. " I get this totally and your honest opinion is and should always be respected....... However! Something I struggle with is how damning and judgemental a vast amount of BI WOMEN on here can be !! Some of the comments in Forum posts and on profile are just rude and abusive behond belief. But look at some of their FF photos and you think, 'Christ love your not so fussy are you'.....there are some god awful lady bits on here (present company excepting LoudLoutish xx) which i would think a nice fresh clean cock on a fit middle aged guy trumps all day long. Its more about what people want from an nice sexual experience. FOR SALE: Soap box, good working order Offers lol. STAY SAFE | |||
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