FabSwingers.com forum: using a flogger advice please

By *iltonhayes OP Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

so, theres a sub I see from time to time and recently she bought a flogger to be used on her. have used it once on her already but seemed a bit tame as I was getting used to it.

I looked out some porn to get some tips and there is some where it is being used really hard on the back and shoulders as well as the bum.

I wondered if anyone had any advice on how to use a flogger safely but effectively on a sub. I particularly want to know how best to use it on the back and safe ways of doing this.

cheers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Floggers are banned offshore (sparks)

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Google 'sensual flogging' there's a few great YouTube videos to give you an idea.

It's all about the build up.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Don't get your advice from porn.

Is there anybody who can give you a demo? Otherwise get yourself a book or go to a local munch and ask someone also try it out on yourself.

The main thing I would say is avoid the kidney area.

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By *iltonhayes OP Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

yeah, I suspect that the part of the back between the top of the bum and the beginning of the rib cage is out. too much that can get damaged in there.

will check out the youtube vids. thought they would be to "rude" for youtube so hadn't looked there before.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

GO TO A MUNCH AND ASK FOR HELP before you injure your sub

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By *uriousKinksterMan
over a year ago

Loughborough

Flogging is one of those things that's easy to pick up but hard to master. The same general safety tips apply such as avoiding certain areas (the kidneys being the main one as others have said) as with any other bdsm activity, but beyond that you're relatively safe.

As with anything you try, read around it first, start slow, and continually check in with your sub (I use RAG or 1-10, as well as safewords or gestures).

The bum is the most obvious place, but if you've got a softer flogger (i.e. not heavy leather) breasts and genitals are fine provided you're considerably more gentle. If you're feeling particularly devilish, the inner thighs and soles of the feet are incredibly sensitive, though everyone's different so remember that communication is king in all things kink!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There used to be a good munch in Edinburgh I'd check the fet - Life website

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By *rank speakerMan
over a year ago

Worcester

"so, theres a sub I see from time to time and recently she bought a flogger to be used on her. have used it once on her already but seemed a bit tame as I was getting used to it.

I looked out some porn to get some tips and there is some where it is being used really hard on the back and shoulders as well as the bum.

I wondered if anyone had any advice on how to use a flogger safely but effectively on a sub. I particularly want to know how best to use it on the back and safe ways of doing this.

cheers.

A flogger is at the soft end of impact play. I knew a girl once who actually found a flogging theraputically relaxing. If she craves something a little harsher maybe a cane would suffice or you could try 'flicking' her with it? Similar action to using a towel only using the flogger tails? This will get her attention? Good luck!!!!

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By *uriousKinksterMan
over a year ago

Loughborough

"so, theres a sub I see from time to time and recently she bought a flogger to be used on her. have used it once on her already but seemed a bit tame as I was getting used to it.

I looked out some porn to get some tips and there is some where it is being used really hard on the back and shoulders as well as the bum.

I wondered if anyone had any advice on how to use a flogger safely but effectively on a sub. I particularly want to know how best to use it on the back and safe ways of doing this.

cheers.

Mmm I dare say if someone told me they thought floggers could only be used for sensual play I'd take great delight in educating them to the contrary

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By *oss and SuzieCouple
over a year ago

Porthmadog

True. A flogger used hard can turn a sub's arse black and blue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Flogging is one of those things that's easy to pick up but hard to master. The same general safety tips apply such as avoiding certain areas (the kidneys being the main one as others have said) as with any other bdsm activity, but beyond that you're relatively safe.

As with anything you try, read around it first, start slow, and continually check in with your sub (I use RAG or 1-10, as well as safewords or gestures).

This....

Imo... Stay away from PVC type floggers, they're sharp and sting. Not good for a first timer x

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By *iltonhayes OP Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

thanks for all your help and tips so far, feel free to keep em coming if you have anything else to add.

rest assured that in NOT going to hurt my sub. that is one thing that isn't going to happen. I actually worship her too much for that to happen and the reason for this post was to add to the knowledge I already have on this topic from others with more experience than me.

learning and improving is what I'm after. thanks for helping out with that.

in answer to some of your comments ... I agree that communication is king in situations like this and we do use a 1-10 style grading system when trying out new things, which works well.

the flogger is a leather one, pretty good quality, not cheep and nasty for my girl, so might be too heavy for genitals.

I liked the tips of ... using it on the feet too (hadn't thought of that), flicking it like a towel (might save that for later, when master level has been attained, much later), we have talked about a cane before (not for her personal tastes) and although I'm not looking to turn her ass black and blue I am looking to make it satisfying for her, or at least, memorable.

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By *uriousKinksterMan
over a year ago

Loughborough

"thanks for all your help and tips so far, feel free to keep em coming if you have anything else to add.

learning and improving is what I'm after. thanks for helping out with that.

in answer to some of your comments ... I agree that communication is king in situations like this and we do use a 1-10 style grading system when trying out new things, which works well.

the flogger is a leather one, pretty good quality, not cheep and nasty for my girl, so might be too heavy for genitals.

Nothing really to do with flogging, but the most memorable scene I think we've ever done involved a lot of sensation play. She was blindfolded and laid on her front as I alternated between dripping hit wax on her back, running an ice cube across her back, my fingers, and a pinwheel. Nothing painful as such but not being able to see an determine the cause of the sensation turned her into a sobbing mess very quickly

Sensory overload essentially, but it worked really well. Flogging can be very sensual as well - simply running it across the skin whilst blindfolded can be very effective I find.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To me there is no part of the body that cannot be flogged. What matters is how you do it. A common mistake it the assumption that flogging it all about hitting someone and or pain, whereas the truth is it's about sensations and sensations come in all different shapes and sizes.

As has been said Don't get your advice from porn, at least not when starting out, find people who know, learn about the flogger you are using, feel it and learn how it works and most of all use it with respect. Good luck and all that jazz

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

I would have replied earlier but fab sent me on a detour

On YouTube Aemelia Hawke has some great videos on flogging. She also has an excellent DVD for purchase.

Some people practise flogging either with a pillow or cushion on the bed with a badge on it and practice hitting the badge. I use a pillow suspended at body height.

I would also recommend again on YouTube The erotic art of flogging by Orpheus Black.

YouTube has some good videos on flogging.

Good Luck

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By *bey2enjoyCouple
over a year ago

Dorset

"True. A flogger used hard can turn a sub's arse black and blue."

Yes it does doesnt it.

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By *rank speakerMan
over a year ago

Worcester

"thanks for all your help and tips so far, feel free to keep em coming if you have anything else to add.

learning and improving is what I'm after. thanks for helping out with that.

in answer to some of your comments ... I agree that communication is king in situations like this and we do use a 1-10 style grading system when trying out new things, which works well.

the flogger is a leather one, pretty good quality, not cheep and nasty for my girl, so might be too heavy for genitals.

There's been some really good feedback. I'm afraid in my post I neglected to mention the safety aspects so am very pleased others have! Sorry about that.

Best of luck!??????

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By *ishopstippleMan
over a year ago

Purley

Aemelia Hawke also makes and sells floggers. I have a pair of her's and they are very good. handmade of lambs leather, so softer than cow hide. So you can use them across a greater range of force: from sensual stimulation to full on had flogging, which hurts.

Just work with your sub and see what they like/dont like. A true master know it is their sub that is in control and the masters job is to extract the maximum sub's pleasure out of the sub. It is not beating the hell out of them aka 50 shades of shite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"GO TO A MUNCH AND ASK FOR HELP before you injure your sub "

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't get your advice from porn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so, theres a sub I see from time to time and recently she bought a flogger to be used on her. have used it once on her already but seemed a bit tame as I was getting used to it.

I looked out some porn to get some tips and there is some where it is being used really hard on the back and shoulders as well as the bum.

I wondered if anyone had any advice on how to use a flogger safely but effectively on a sub. I particularly want to know how best to use it on the back and safe ways of doing this.

cheers.

Mmm I dare say if someone told me they thought floggers could only be used for sensual play I'd take great delight in educating them to the contrary

Definitely!

I think anyone that thinks floggers are only used for sensual play has probably only ever see cheap and light floggers

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

"Google 'sensual flogging' there's a few great YouTube videos to give you an idea.

It's all about the build up."

Agree with this, fractionation between soft and harder, building the harder slowly and fractionation the softer to compensate.

Almost like a ratchet effect. The harder the blows, the softer the soothing.. plus don’t use a pattern, you should never loose “unknowing” anticipation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive made a couple of flogger type toys using a heavy gauge rubber, I found this gives off a more thuddy impact compared to the lighter Faux leather ones you normally get which are a tingly sting kind of feel,

The rubber one I made with slightly longer stands, I’ve found you can flick your wrist a little to spread the strands across the entire back area or the bum for a more softer sensual touch or you can definitely go all out with it for full impact play, it also has a good sound to it which she likes when she’s blindfolded.

Im definitely no expert, but I find floggers to be quite versatile, and the more senses you can touch on during playtime the better the experience, it’s not just about slapping the sub into next week!

I’ve made a leather strap one which offers a more stingy slap which is quite a nice sting so you do get different sensations from different materials,

I have ordered some bison leather to make a another long strand flogger with to see how it compares to the rubber one so my advice for what it’s worth is test out different ones as they all offer different sensations.

When we play, I blindfold her and use all our toys from fingers & pin wheel to wax and our hardwood paddles,

mrs loves the sensation of not knowing what’s next so I mix it up, I use two floggers too ranging from soft to hard blows, it’s hard not to fall into a routine so using various toys can help break that cycle and keep it spontaneous.

Anybody else experimented with different materials?

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By *oss and SuzieCouple
over a year ago

Porthmadog

Ross makes all our toys. Our flogger is from buffalo leather, 5mm thick, split halfway into broad tails. It makes a satisfying whack but if it is kept oiled it doesn't cause any long term effects

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Look up Aamilia Hawk on YouTube, shes incredible xx

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"so, theres a sub I see from time to time and recently she bought a flogger to be used on her. have used it once on her already but seemed a bit tame as I was getting used to it.

I looked out some porn to get some tips and there is some where it is being used really hard on the back and shoulders as well as the bum.

I wondered if anyone had any advice on how to use a flogger safely but effectively on a sub. I particularly want to know how best to use it on the back and safe ways of doing this.

cheers.

My main advice would be don't get ideas my porn! Please!

For starting, the bum is better than the back. With the back you risk more wrap-around which can cause injury.

If more pain is required, the upper thigh / lower bum is good. Again, be careful of wraparound, this time between the legs.

I would not underestimate the value of starting 'tame.' It simply means you will probably be able to go for longer, possibly increasing in intensity as you do.

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

"Look up Aamilia Hawk on YouTube, shes incredible xx"

Aemilia also has a DVD on flogging for sale.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Take some advice but nothing beats practice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Floggers have been banned from the north sea oil platforms for some time now

Torque tensioners are used instead and no sparks

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