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"Of course it is but the imbalance between demand and offer is for me the major factor here. There are some ladies here who would struggle to be looked at in the street but who can pretty much pull anybody they want here because there are so few ladies. They can afford being fussy and of course, look comes into play because of this. " I’d be a virgin if it wasn’t for this site | |||
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"Because you haven't met me. " | |||
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"If you don’t think this site is looks driven you are deluded." It’s a very visual site, so I’d agree. | |||
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"To an extent aye, conventionally attractive people will probably get more interest initially. But they've got to maintain that interest with their communication, and if they have shit chat I'll lose interest very quickly. On the flip side, someone I may not initially be very attracted to can become more so as I get to know them. " Agreed completely. | |||
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"What’s up?" Knock Back city limits | |||
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"Certainly the 40 year old, carrying a bit of timber, look is out for the new decade lol......was it ever in??" Wot?!.. really? Frankly, I'm gutted to hear this - simply devastated! | |||
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"If you don’t think this site is looks driven you are deluded." If this was the case I’d have given up a long time ago. | |||
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"Of course it is but the imbalance between demand and offer is for me the major factor here. There are some ladies here who would struggle to be looked at in the street but who can pretty much pull anybody they want here because there are so few ladies. They can afford being fussy and of course, look comes into play because of this. " Do me a favour, why do some men come out with this rudeness | |||
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"If you don’t think this site is looks driven you are deluded." Of course it is Driven by Amazon servers. | |||
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"Certainly the 40 year old, carrying a bit of timber, look is out for the new decade lol......was it ever in??" Damn that only gives me 26 days to be naughty lol | |||
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"Of course it is but the imbalance between demand and offer is for me the major factor here. There are some ladies here who would struggle to be looked at in the street but who can pretty much pull anybody they want here because there are so few ladies. They can afford being fussy and of course, look comes into play because of this. Do me a favour, why do some men come out with this rudeness" Usually because they've been rejected by women they think are unattractive. | |||
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"I think this translates to why doesn't anyone like me. " Weak and inaccurate response: try again | |||
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"Of course it is but the imbalance between demand and offer is for me the major factor here. There are some ladies here who would struggle to be looked at in the street but who can pretty much pull anybody they want here because there are so few ladies. They can afford being fussy and of course, look comes into play because of this. " Agreed. This analysis is accurate | |||
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"Let’s be honest, if you’re fit as fuck you’re gonna have an easier time. But my best fucks aren’t with the hottest guys. There has to be an attraction initially of course but I don’t just meet ‘gorgeous’ people cos with my past fuck buddy, I didn’t even really fancy him when I first met him and he was amazing. So there’s more to it than looks for a longer term thing." Good to know you give less attractive people a chance. It seems like this approach is few and far between based on what I’ve read on here | |||
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"There is no way that anyone would consider us an attractive couple based on our looks. We do however make up for that by personality and thank goodness most decent people see that. We meet people based mostly on our chats on line & after swapping facial pics - usually just so we're not stood wondering how we'll recognise each other. We never have intentions for anything other than socialising on first meets. I think some of the most attractive people we have met, whether good looking or not, is because of who they are - outlook on life, humour, friendliness etc. Previous remarks and your agreement OP, that unattractive women that don't get looked at in the street but get attention here just because of the sheer numbers of men is uncalled for really. It seems to me that your outlook is just one of supply & demand - and no one wants to supply you. Being bitter isn't a fine quality. " Wholeheartedly disagree. Kindly remind yourself of the name of the forum you chose to post in. | |||
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"There is no way that anyone would consider us an attractive couple based on our looks. We do however make up for that by personality and thank goodness most decent people see that. We meet people based mostly on our chats on line & after swapping facial pics - usually just so we're not stood wondering how we'll recognise each other. We never have intentions for anything other than socialising on first meets. I think some of the most attractive people we have met, whether good looking or not, is because of who they are - outlook on life, humour, friendliness etc. Previous remarks and your agreement OP, that unattractive women that don't get looked at in the street but get attention here just because of the sheer numbers of men is uncalled for really. It seems to me that your outlook is just one of supply & demand - and no one wants to supply you. Being bitter isn't a fine quality. Wholeheartedly disagree. Kindly remind yourself of the name of the forum you chose to post in. " As in Swinging Advice or the post title? Disagreement or not - that's our experience & simply to highlight that not all people using this site are "looks driven" ergo we are not deluded | |||
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"BTW I just looked at your profile OP even though you're too far away and you fall into the category of being above my league so I wouldn't meet you for that reason. " Likewise op Calling us deluded Because this fab swinger's is based on looks and driven by looks.... Balls And also this Op | |||
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"Of course it is but the imbalance between demand and offer is for me the major factor here. There are some ladies here who would struggle to be looked at in the street but who can pretty much pull anybody they want here because there are so few ladies. They can afford being fussy and of course, look comes into play because of this. Do me a favour, why do some men come out with this rudeness Usually because they've been rejected by women they think are unattractive. " Calling us deluded is like saying we are ugly but your Manners are deplorable | |||
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"This is a common complaint from men who believe that their perceived lack of looks are preventing them from making any progress on fab. They see women that they don’t consider attractive with lots of veris and assume it’s because men are lowering their standards because of the competition, and that women are just cherry picking the best looking men. It’s both misogynist and disrespectful, and another example of the incel garbage that is becoming far too common on this forum. " It really is nowt to do with looks and lowering standards,all of the women I know are looking for a little bit more than a fuck me now meet | |||
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"This is a common complaint from men who believe that their perceived lack of looks are preventing them from making any progress on fab. They see women that they don’t consider attractive with lots of veris and assume it’s because men are lowering their standards because of the competition, and that women are just cherry picking the best looking men. It’s both misogynist and disrespectful, and another example of the incel garbage that is becoming far too common on this forum. " I couldn't agree with you more. And happy new year, sweetie xx | |||
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"Isn’t delusion a projection from a person’s perspective, don’t understand who is delusional here?" Everything is subjective | |||
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"Of course it is but the imbalance between demand and offer is for me the major factor here. There are some ladies here who would struggle to be looked at in the street but who can pretty much pull anybody they want here because there are so few ladies. They can afford being fussy and of course, look comes into play because of this. Do me a favour, why do some men come out with this rudeness" Because it is true.... | |||
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"This is a common complaint from men who believe that their perceived lack of looks are preventing them from making any progress on fab. They see women that they don’t consider attractive with lots of veris and assume it’s because men are lowering their standards because of the competition, and that women are just cherry picking the best looking men. It’s both misogynist and disrespectful, and another example of the incel garbage that is becoming far too common on this forum. " If you don’t think this is true you need to open your eyes Sir | |||
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"If you don’t think this site is looks driven you are deluded." I looked at your profile. A physically attractive guy! But you haven’t had a veri for a very long time (years). Suggesting that you haven’t had a meet in that time. So if you, as an attractive guy, cannot get a meet - it counters your own argument that it’s all about looks. Regardless of looks, i wouldn’t meet a guy that has an ugly attitude. Neither will most women, hence your shining lack of success here. | |||
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"If you don’t think this site is looks driven you are deluded." Don't worry OP, you are not alone on this subject. I started up a similar subject on the form a while back and I was attacked by others for voicing my opinion! However, I've always had the impression that Fab is mainly based on looks. Every message that I send out is polite, friendly and respectful. I've tried to word my profile as best as I can (even though I'm not great at writing profiles) and I've also added that I'm more than willing to meet socially, I'm not all about sexual contact I'd like to build friendships too! And yet, no one even talks to me, let alone meeting me! So taking all of that into account, what am I doing wrong exactly?... Absolutely nothing! So I can only conclude that my failing is due to others not finding me attractive! Plus I was actually told by someone that it goes against me that I'm under 5ft11 because most people prefer taller, 5ft11+ So yes, this place is 100% based on looks and looks only! Single women and couples on here rule, they've got the upper hand, seems like being an average guy doesn't cut it on here! If your a single guy then it seems like others expect you to be something special, no one seems to want average, even if you're actually a decent respectful person! Anyway, I'm rambling on, time to get myself ready for work. But don't worry OP, you're definitely not alone in thinking/feeling the way you do, it's just the way Fab works... Unfortunately | |||
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"The majority of men fail by the way they conduct themselves and not how they look, even though looks are important. We have a friend who is extremely good looking and on here it’s tough. At clubs he has people throwing themselves at him. Yet it’s far easier for men to wallow in self pity and blame everyone else then actually get off their arses and get out and meet people. People aren’t going to come running to someone they have never met and potentially put themselves in a dangerous situation with an unknown quandary. Get yourselves to a club, behave and let people see who you are. You’ll then get decent verifications and people may then take a chance. Or you can ignore it and blame others. " What's the difference betweeen attending a club to get talking to people and messaging people on here? Plus, it knocks confidence that no one will talk to me on here, i feel as if it eould be the same outcome if I attended a club/social event! Just because I make the effort to go to a social event, doesn't mean that anyone will give me their attention! The way I see it, if no one is willing to engage in a conversation with me through a computer screen, then it will be the same story at a social event! It's very off-putting if I'm honest! | |||
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"I've always had the impression that Fab is mainly based on looks. Every message that I send out is polite, friendly and respectful. I've tried to word my profile as best as I can (even though I'm not great at writing profiles) and I've also added that I'm more than willing to meet socially, I'm not all about sexual contact I'd like to build friendships too! And yet, no one even talks to me, let alone meeting me! So taking all of that into account, what am I doing wrong exactly?... Absolutely nothing! So I can only conclude that my failing is due to others not finding me attractive! Plus I was actually told by someone that it goes against me that I'm under 5ft11 because most people prefer taller, 5ft11+ So yes, this place is 100% based on looks and looks only! Single women and couples on here rule, they've got the upper hand, seems like being an average guy doesn't cut it on here! If your a single guy then it seems like others expect you to be something special, no one seems to want average, even if you're actually a decent respectful person! " If you’ve attended any socials or clubs you’ll see lots of ‘average looking guys’ having a great time. You’re way better looking than me, (I think) and yet I do pretty well indeed, and although there has to be a physical attraction, most women that I’ve met are happy to wait until a social before finalising that decision. So looks really do have very little to do with things early on. You haven’t asked for profile advice so I won’t mention what a mess your’s is, nor how needy and clingy your thread post sounds. Just because you write what you deem to be ‘polite, friendly and respectful’ messages does not entitle you to anything. If you speak to almost any single woman and couple in here they will tell you that it’s extremely difficult in finding the right kind of guy. Relatively few female or couples profiles mention that they’re looking for extremely handsome men, and if they do then it’s probably worth giving them a wide birth, but neediness, desperation and entitlement cut right through in a message and are the very least attractive qualities. | |||
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"I have yet to be sexually attracted to a personality alone. " Same | |||
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"Put yourselves on our shoes. If we put seeking guys on the profile we get over a 100 messages a day (we turn it off to avoid this). Of those messages 95 of them will have zero or little verifications. Or profile may be terrible. It’s not worth running the risk with them as there’s 5 that have great feedback from people they’ve met or the profile stands out. Ladies are not going to put themselves ina vulnerable position or waste their time talking to someone with no track record. Sell yourselves, get out and meet people. It’s not going to come knocking at your door. And moaning is so unattractive drop it. And also remember some people just aren’t good enough to be swingers. No everyone has what it takes, like all walks in life. " | |||
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"Put yourselves on our shoes. If we put seeking guys on the profile we get over a 100 messages a day (we turn it off to avoid this). Of those messages 95 of them will have zero or little verifications. Or profile may be terrible. It’s not worth running the risk with them as there’s 5 that have great feedback from people they’ve met or the profile stands out. Ladies are not going to put themselves ina vulnerable position or waste their time talking to someone with no track record. Sell yourselves, get out and meet people. It’s not going to come knocking at your door. And moaning is so unattractive drop it. And also remember some people just aren’t good enough to be swingers. No everyone has what it takes, like all walks in life. " So just because I have no verifications, does that mean that I'm not worthy of anyone? If people just ignored the lack of my verification for a moment and actually gave me a chance and eganged in a conversation with me, then people would realise that I'm actually a good hearted, friendly, genuine guy! But no one will ever find out because of the lack of chance/communication! I see many forum posts and profile statuses claiming that some single guy has messed people around or have been rude/vulgar. And it makes me chuckle becuase I'm neither a time waster or rude or vulgar and yet people seem to just over look me! It's hard work here! | |||
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"So just because I have no verifications, does that mean that I'm not worthy of anyone?" It’s already been mentioned, but the easiest way to fix this is to go to a social. No pressure, just a bunch of people meeting up for a chat. | |||
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"I've always had the impression that Fab is mainly based on looks. Every message that I send out is polite, friendly and respectful. I've tried to word my profile as best as I can (even though I'm not great at writing profiles) and I've also added that I'm more than willing to meet socially, I'm not all about sexual contact I'd like to build friendships too! And yet, no one even talks to me, let alone meeting me! So taking all of that into account, what am I doing wrong exactly?... Absolutely nothing! So I can only conclude that my failing is due to others not finding me attractive! Plus I was actually told by someone that it goes against me that I'm under 5ft11 because most people prefer taller, 5ft11+ So yes, this place is 100% based on looks and looks only! Single women and couples on here rule, they've got the upper hand, seems like being an average guy doesn't cut it on here! If your a single guy then it seems like others expect you to be something special, no one seems to want average, even if you're actually a decent respectful person! If you’ve attended any socials or clubs you’ll see lots of ‘average looking guys’ having a great time. You’re way better looking than me, (I think) and yet I do pretty well indeed, and although there has to be a physical attraction, most women that I’ve met are happy to wait until a social before finalising that decision. So looks really do have very little to do with things early on. You haven’t asked for profile advice so I won’t mention what a mess your’s is, nor how needy and clingy your thread post sounds. Just because you write what you deem to be ‘polite, friendly and respectful’ messages does not entitle you to anything. If you speak to almost any single woman and couple in here they will tell you that it’s extremely difficult in finding the right kind of guy. Relatively few female or couples profiles mention that they’re looking for extremely handsome men, and if they do then it’s probably worth giving them a wide birth, but neediness, desperation and entitlement cut right through in a message and are the very least attractive qualities. " Well I'm open to profile advice if you're offering? As you claim that my profile is a mess | |||
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"So just because I have no verifications, does that mean that I'm not worthy of anyone? It’s already been mentioned, but the easiest way to fix this is to go to a social. No pressure, just a bunch of people meeting up for a chat." Read his ‘too many people shooting for the stars’ forum post. He’s been told so many times but ignores it and moans. | |||
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"So just because I have no verifications, does that mean that I'm not worthy of anyone? It’s already been mentioned, but the easiest way to fix this is to go to a social. No pressure, just a bunch of people meeting up for a chat. Read his ‘too many people shooting for the stars’ forum post. He’s been told so many times but ignores it and moans. " Ohhhh yep I just did a quick green arrow check... | |||
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"It’s not hard at all. You’ve been told on so many threads what you need to do. It’s all on the green arrow. But you ignore everytime because it’s too much effort for you. You’re lack of success is 100% at your feet. " ok then, it's my fault that most individuals don't want to let me in and give me a chance and get to know me... Jeeees | |||
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"It’s not hard at all. You’ve been told on so many threads what you need to do. It’s all on the green arrow. But you ignore everytime because it’s too much effort for you. You’re lack of success is 100% at your feet. ok then, it's my fault that most individuals don't want to let me in and give me a chance and get to know me... Jeeees" You live in London. There are dozens of socials a year that you could attend. Once you’ve got your name down you can look at who else is attending and arrange to meet them face to face. It really isn’t rocket science. Everyone of us came on here without any verifications, but it didn’t hinder those of us who looked beyond our own self petty. The ‘let me in and give me a chance’ attitude is really unattractive. You make your own chances on fab. | |||
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"It’s not hard at all. You’ve been told on so many threads what you need to do. It’s all on the green arrow. But you ignore everytime because it’s too much effort for you. You’re lack of success is 100% at your feet. ok then, it's my fault that most individuals don't want to let me in and give me a chance and get to know me... Jeeees" Yet again blaming other people. You’ve been told get out and meet people. If you can’t do the basics of swinging. Why try and be a swinger? Socialising is key to swinging. It’s no one else’s fault that you can’t function in the world. | |||
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"It’s not hard at all. You’ve been told on so many threads what you need to do. It’s all on the green arrow. But you ignore everytime because it’s too much effort for you. You’re lack of success is 100% at your feet. ok then, it's my fault that most individuals don't want to let me in and give me a chance and get to know me... Jeeees Yet again blaming other people. You’ve been told get out and meet people. If you can’t do the basics of swinging. Why try and be a swinger? Socialism is key to swinging. It’s no one else’s fault that you can’t function in the world. " Can't function in the world? That's a little harsh if I'm honest! And as I've previously mentioned about the social events, I've been put off simply due to the lack of conversation on the site! Oh, plus I was told by one guy about his social event experience, claiming that he attended and was a new face and he was practically ignored, everyone else there was in their oen little groups and he was sitting on the side line, he wasn't welcomed at all! So again, that has put me off | |||
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"Oh, plus I was told by one guy about his social event experience, claiming that he attended and was a new face and he was practically ignored, everyone else there was in their oen little groups and he was sitting on the side line, he wasn't welcomed at all! So again, that has put me off" So some bloke told you he sat by himself at a social and everyone ignored him. Did it not occur to him to get up and join some of the groups? To introduce himself? No, because that would be working for it. I’ve seen dozens of guys like that at socials and clubs. And they never get anywhere. If you’re too shy then swinging really isn’t for you. It’s a social activity. There’s a London social next week. Get your name down, and start chatting. | |||
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"You still have to go and talk to people at clubs and socials. Sex is not an equal opportunities employer. People talk to everyone at clubs. Guys that hide away in the corner won’t get spoken to. They need to be out there " That's understandable. But as mentioned on my profile (which is a mess apparently) I'm not just about sex, I would like to build friendship too, socially. When I've got the free time and when there is a social event local enough to me, I will attend and give it a go. And I will join in and put myself out there and I will wait and see what the outcome will be | |||
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"You still have to go and talk to people at clubs and socials. Sex is not an equal opportunities employer. People talk to everyone at clubs. Guys that hide away in the corner won’t get spoken to. They need to be out there That's understandable. But as mentioned on my profile (which is a mess apparently) I'm not just about sex, I would like to build friendship too, socially. When I've got the free time and when there is a social event local enough to me, I will attend and give it a go. And I will join in and put myself out there and I will wait and see what the outcome will be" You can find friendship at socials too you know, it’s not just about sex. Socials are actually good fun, try it and see | |||
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"You still have to go and talk to people at clubs and socials. Sex is not an equal opportunities employer. People talk to everyone at clubs. Guys that hide away in the corner won’t get spoken to. They need to be out there That's understandable. But as mentioned on my profile (which is a mess apparently) I'm not just about sex, I would like to build friendship too, socially. When I've got the free time and when there is a social event local enough to me, I will attend and give it a go. And I will join in and put myself out there and I will wait and see what the outcome will be You can find friendship at socials too you know, it’s not just about sex. Socials are actually good fun, try it and see" Yes they are fun, I organise them, tailored more towards singles too. However, the drop out and no-show rate beggars belief. What people do after the social is up to them, a few have gone off and had fun after. They are great for making new connections, but again, you have to make the effort to attend in the first place. | |||
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"So why sit there moaning about it. You know what needs doing and do it. Fortune favours the bold. You’re a grown up now and you have to do things on your own. Suck it up and do it. " How rude! | |||
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"It’s not hard at all. You’ve been told on so many threads what you need to do. It’s all on the green arrow. But you ignore everytime because it’s too much effort for you. You’re lack of success is 100% at your feet. ok then, it's my fault that most individuals don't want to let me in and give me a chance and get to know me... Jeeees" chin up mate, I wouldn’t say that going to clubs / socials doesn’t help but I’d say as much as 80% off people on here have never been to either or maybe once or twice. Yet they still have a successful swinging lifestyle, only interacting through sites like this. Yes it’s not easy and requires work. I’m still convinced it’s about how you messages people and converse with them. | |||
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"It’s not hard at all. You’ve been told on so many threads what you need to do. It’s all on the green arrow. But you ignore everytime because it’s too much effort for you. You’re lack of success is 100% at your feet. ok then, it's my fault that most individuals don't want to let me in and give me a chance and get to know me... Jeeees chin up mate, I wouldn’t say that going to clubs / socials doesn’t help but I’d say as much as 80% off people on here have never been to either or maybe once or twice. Yet they still have a successful swinging lifestyle, only interacting through sites like this. Yes it’s not easy and requires work. I’m still convinced it’s about how you messages people and converse with them." 100% this. The best looking person in the world could message me, but if they don’t capture me mind, my imagination then it won’t go anywhere. | |||
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"I think what some guys really struggle with in here is that the tables are turned. They are used to having the upper hand in most areas of their lives but in here they don't & they really don't know how to cope with that. So rather than looking at how they need to change their behaviour in order to adapt to the environment here, its easier to just blame everyone else. " Ok, try this on for size. You lot here are all claiming that fab isn't based on looks? So why is that that I see on so many profiles (single women and couples) that single men must be hung or tall or in good shape and exceptional! And must be this and must be that... The list goes on... These are things that I see countless times on others profiles and you lot are claiming that fab isn't based mainly on looks??!! | |||
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"I think what some guys really struggle with in here is that the tables are turned. They are used to having the upper hand in most areas of their lives but in here they don't & they really don't know how to cope with that. So rather than looking at how they need to change their behaviour in order to adapt to the environment here, its easier to just blame everyone else. Ok, try this on for size. You lot here are all claiming that fab isn't based on looks? So why is that that I see on so many profiles (single women and couples) that single men must be hung or tall or in good shape and exceptional! And must be this and must be that... The list goes on... These are things that I see countless times on others profiles and you lot are claiming that fab isn't based mainly on looks??!! " Ignore those and concentrate on the ones which aren’t demanding, there are lots of them on here too. | |||
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"I think what some guys really struggle with in here is that the tables are turned. They are used to having the upper hand in most areas of their lives but in here they don't & they really don't know how to cope with that. So rather than looking at how they need to change their behaviour in order to adapt to the environment here, its easier to just blame everyone else. Ok, try this on for size. You lot here are all claiming that fab isn't based on looks? So why is that that I see on so many profiles (single women and couples) that single men must be hung or tall or in good shape and exceptional! And must be this and must be that... The list goes on... These are things that I see countless times on others profiles and you lot are claiming that fab isn't based mainly on looks??!! " It’s because no one wants to have sex with Quasimodo. Of course looks are important. It’s fulfilling sexual desires. Yes they must have a nice personality but choice is so high we can have both. | |||
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"It’s not hard at all. You’ve been told on so many threads what you need to do. It’s all on the green arrow. But you ignore everytime because it’s too much effort for you. You’re lack of success is 100% at your feet. ok then, it's my fault that most individuals don't want to let me in and give me a chance and get to know me... Jeeees chin up mate, I wouldn’t say that going to clubs / socials doesn’t help but I’d say as much as 80% off people on here have never been to either or maybe once or twice. Yet they still have a successful swinging lifestyle, only interacting through sites like this. Yes it’s not easy and requires work. I’m still convinced it’s about how you messages people and converse with them." You're convinced it's about how i message people and converse? Are you for real? Firstly, how can you come to that conclusion, considering that you have absolutely no idea what I write in me messages??!! Secondly, my messages are ALWAYS polite, friendly and respectful. I ALWAYS introduce myself, ask if the other person is well and ask if they would like to get to know a little about eachother and strike up a conversation! So please tell me, what's so wrong with that? If you're convinced that my failing is due to the way I message people and converse??!! Jeees, honestly, give me a break!!! | |||
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"It’s not hard at all. You’ve been told on so many threads what you need to do. It’s all on the green arrow. But you ignore everytime because it’s too much effort for you. You’re lack of success is 100% at your feet. ok then, it's my fault that most individuals don't want to let me in and give me a chance and get to know me... Jeeees chin up mate, I wouldn’t say that going to clubs / socials doesn’t help but I’d say as much as 80% off people on here have never been to either or maybe once or twice. Yet they still have a successful swinging lifestyle, only interacting through sites like this. Yes it’s not easy and requires work. I’m still convinced it’s about how you messages people and converse with them. You're convinced it's about how i message people and converse? Are you for real? Firstly, how can you come to that conclusion, considering that you have absolutely no idea what I write in me messages??!! Secondly, my messages are ALWAYS polite, friendly and respectful. I ALWAYS introduce myself, ask if the other person is well and ask if they would like to get to know a little about eachother and strike up a conversation! So please tell me, what's so wrong with that? If you're convinced that my failing is due to the way I message people and converse??!! Jeees, honestly, give me a break!!! " the you was as in you generally, as in everybody, not you personally. | |||
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"I think what some guys really struggle with in here is that the tables are turned. They are used to having the upper hand in most areas of their lives but in here they don't & they really don't know how to cope with that. So rather than looking at how they need to change their behaviour in order to adapt to the environment here, its easier to just blame everyone else. Ok, try this on for size. You lot here are all claiming that fab isn't based on looks? So why is that that I see on so many profiles (single women and couples) that single men must be hung or tall or in good shape and exceptional! And must be this and must be that... The list goes on... These are things that I see countless times on others profiles and you lot are claiming that fab isn't based mainly on looks??!! " I can't comment for others but nowhere on my profile do I demand anything about looks, height or dick size. I don't ask for face pics, on my profile or via message. I put personality first at all times and looks are secondary, because ultimately if I don't like the person I won't take things further no matter how good looking they are. But I'd say about 90% of guys that I chat to via message ask for a face pic within the first 5 messages because they are way more driven by physical appearance. | |||
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"I think what some guys really struggle with in here is that the tables are turned. They are used to having the upper hand in most areas of their lives but in here they don't & they really don't know how to cope with that. So rather than looking at how they need to change their behaviour in order to adapt to the environment here, its easier to just blame everyone else. Ok, try this on for size. You lot here are all claiming that fab isn't based on looks? So why is that that I see on so many profiles (single women and couples) that single men must be hung or tall or in good shape and exceptional! And must be this and must be that... The list goes on... These are things that I see countless times on others profiles and you lot are claiming that fab isn't based mainly on looks??!! " I think the problem is that for some of us it is looks based and for others it isn't and each side finds it difficult to understand the others point of view. Personally I have a type of man I find attractive and I don't want casual sex unless I'm attracted. All the !messages we receive asking to meet compliment our looks not our personalities. Other people need more of a connection on a personal level and to them looks aren't significant. There's room for all of us | |||
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"It’s not hard at all. You’ve been told on so many threads what you need to do. It’s all on the green arrow. But you ignore everytime because it’s too much effort for you. You’re lack of success is 100% at your feet. ok then, it's my fault that most individuals don't want to let me in and give me a chance and get to know me... Jeeees chin up mate, I wouldn’t say that going to clubs / socials doesn’t help but I’d say as much as 80% off people on here have never been to either or maybe once or twice. Yet they still have a successful swinging lifestyle, only interacting through sites like this. Yes it’s not easy and requires work. I’m still convinced it’s about how you messages people and converse with them. You're convinced it's about how i message people and converse? Are you for real? Firstly, how can you come to that conclusion, considering that you have absolutely no idea what I write in me messages??!! Secondly, my messages are ALWAYS polite, friendly and respectful. I ALWAYS introduce myself, ask if the other person is well and ask if they would like to get to know a little about eachother and strike up a conversation! So please tell me, what's so wrong with that? If you're convinced that my failing is due to the way I message people and converse??!! Jeees, honestly, give me a break!!! " secondly, yes that’s a boring message, lots of people send messages like that, the only thing missing is you saying you’re genuine. It needs to include something which is going to grab their attention and make them want to replay, even if it doesn’t lead to anything. | |||
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"It’s not hard at all. You’ve been told on so many threads what you need to do. It’s all on the green arrow. But you ignore everytime because it’s too much effort for you. You’re lack of success is 100% at your feet. ok then, it's my fault that most individuals don't want to let me in and give me a chance and get to know me... Jeeees chin up mate, I wouldn’t say that going to clubs / socials doesn’t help but I’d say as much as 80% off people on here have never been to either or maybe once or twice. Yet they still have a successful swinging lifestyle, only interacting through sites like this. Yes it’s not easy and requires work. I’m still convinced it’s about how you messages people and converse with them. You're convinced it's about how i message people and converse? Are you for real? Firstly, how can you come to that conclusion, considering that you have absolutely no idea what I write in me messages??!! Secondly, my messages are ALWAYS polite, friendly and respectful. I ALWAYS introduce myself, ask if the other person is well and ask if they would like to get to know a little about eachother and strike up a conversation! So please tell me, what's so wrong with that? If you're convinced that my failing is due to the way I message people and converse??!! Jeees, honestly, give me a break!!! the you was as in you generally, as in everybody, not you personally." Oh I see, apologies for the abrupt response then. And yes, I agree that success has a lot to do with the way messages are worded and how a particular person converses. But as mentioned, I am ALWAYS polite, friendly and respectful. I ALWAYS introduce myself, ask if the other person is well and ask if they would like to get to know a little about eachother and strike up a conversation! So what more can I possibly do/say when sending out a message? That's what baffles me | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own." Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke" Why are you still ignoring what we are saying. I’ll try and make it easy. GO OUT AND MEET PEOPLE. | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke" You seem very negative, that makes me want to take my welcome opening arms to someone that won't bite my head off | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke Why are you still ignoring what we are saying. I’ll try and make it easy. GO OUT AND MEET PEOPLE. " I'm not ignoring it. I will go out and attend a local social and I will put myself out there and get involved and I shall see what happens... | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke You seem very negative, that makes me want to take my welcome opening arms to someone that won't bite my head off " Only negative due to they way that I'm treated here | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke That’s not true at all. People are talking directly TO YOU, what’s more on a thread started by ANOTHER PERSON. You’re not being ignored in any way." I actually meant that I'm ignored by others who I contact via messages... | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke That’s not true at all. People are talking directly TO YOU, what’s more on a thread started by ANOTHER PERSON. You’re not being ignored in any way. I actually meant that I'm ignored by others who I contact via messages... " Apologies - it didn’t read like that since the quote you responded to said everyone is waiting with open arms to welcome you... | |||
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" I actually meant that I'm ignored by others who I contact via messages... " You should remember that as stated frequently no response is a no. There does not have to a reason as there can be many, it may or may not be a physical attraction issue. | |||
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"You've been given good advice & yet seem to just throw it back at people. You come across on the forum as having a huge sense of entitlement, like the women should be grateful & throwing the seat you, and that is really not attractive. Your description of your introductory message sounds pretty uninspiring to be honest & similar to lots of others. You need to stand out amongst the crowd if you want to get a response " Throwing themselves at you even! Damn auto correct! | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke That’s not true at all. People are talking directly TO YOU, what’s more on a thread started by ANOTHER PERSON. You’re not being ignored in any way. I actually meant that I'm ignored by others who I contact via messages... " Lots of people get ignored even couples and single women sometimes. It’s impossible to tell someone how to right a good message, without knowing who they are writing to. There are a couple of things to bear in mind though. If you message just after they put a new pic up, a new status or meet request, remember this is when their inbox will peak and it’s probable your message will get lost. Always check for their silly code word and include it. Try to message when the site is quieter. Try and find something within their profile, status, pics or veris to comment on which could be used for a unique comment, without coming over creepy. Humour is always a good way to break the ice. Do this and you won’t need the hi how are you, do you come here often approach. Well that’s my take on it, others may disagree. | |||
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"Is there a woman or couple in here who would be prepared to take a sample message from Marc? And give him an honest and critical appraisal? " That’s the point some off us are trying to make, it’s not about sending a sample or generic message to someone and then if they say it’s ok, expecting it to be suitable for the next woman he writes too, it needs to be specific to the person he’s writing too. Otherwise it just seems like a copy and paste message. | |||
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"Is there a woman or couple in here who would be prepared to take a sample message from Marc? And give him an honest and critical appraisal? That’s the point some off us are trying to make, it’s not about sending a sample or generic message to someone and then if they say it’s ok, expecting it to be suitable for the next woman he writes too, it needs to be specific to the person he’s writing too. Otherwise it just seems like a copy and paste message." I completely get that, and abide by the bespoke method myself, but if he’s never had a reply there really must be something going seriously wrong. I don’t mean ‘sample’ as in a previous message, but to a specific volunteer who he could write to as he does to those that live near him. | |||
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"Of course it is but the imbalance between demand and offer is for me the major factor here. There are some ladies here who would struggle to be looked at in the street but who can pretty much pull anybody they want here because there are so few ladies. They can afford being fussy and of course, look comes into play because of this. Do me a favour, why do some men come out with this rudeness Usually because they've been rejected by women they think are unattractive. " Which begs the question, why were they trying to fuck women they thought were unattractive? | |||
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"Of course it is but the imbalance between demand and offer is for me the major factor here. There are some ladies here who would struggle to be looked at in the street but who can pretty much pull anybody they want here because there are so few ladies. They can afford being fussy and of course, look comes into play because of this. Do me a favour, why do some men come out with this rudeness Usually because they've been rejected by women they think are unattractive. Which begs the question, why were they trying to fuck women they thought were unattractive?" Desperation? | |||
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"Of course it is but the imbalance between demand and offer is for me the major factor here. There are some ladies here who would struggle to be looked at in the street but who can pretty much pull anybody they want here because there are so few ladies. They can afford being fussy and of course, look comes into play because of this. Do me a favour, why do some men come out with this rudeness Usually because they've been rejected by women they think are unattractive. Which begs the question, why were they trying to fuck women they thought were unattractive?" So prime example of what happens on here.... A guy messaged, his introduction wasn't bad at all so he got a response, we chatted a bit. Seemed nice, genuine & very keen. I explained that with Christmas & everything I'm pretty busy so couldn't chat much & wouldn't be able to meet until January some time. All that was fine. But then he messaged constantly, sulked if I didn't reply fast enough, accused me of being an attention seeker because I was chatting with others on here, threw his dummy out the pram when I wasn't willing to chat on kik & told me I'm a fat cunt & he wouldn't want to shag me anyway . & then men wonder why they don't get meets! | |||
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"If you don’t think this site is looks driven you are deluded. Different people find different folk attractive, looks will always have a major influence in attraction but there will always be someone who thinks you look alright. Cal" For me it's naked attraction | |||
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"Of course it is but the imbalance between demand and offer is for me the major factor here. There are some ladies here who would struggle to be looked at in the street but who can pretty much pull anybody they want here because there are so few ladies. They can afford being fussy and of course, look comes into play because of this. Do me a favour, why do some men come out with this rudeness Usually because they've been rejected by women they think are unattractive. Which begs the question, why were they trying to fuck women they thought were unattractive? So prime example of what happens on here.... A guy messaged, his introduction wasn't bad at all so he got a response, we chatted a bit. Seemed nice, genuine & very keen. I explained that with Christmas & everything I'm pretty busy so couldn't chat much & wouldn't be able to meet until January some time. All that was fine. But then he messaged constantly, sulked if I didn't reply fast enough, accused me of being an attention seeker because I was chatting with others on here, threw his dummy out the pram when I wasn't willing to chat on kik & told me I'm a fat cunt & he wouldn't want to shag me anyway . & then men wonder why they don't get meets! " Adding onto to this Why you not got bum and pussy pics I got asked yesterday... Its my preference not to and I don't need to justify myself either. Same as guys who hide their face Or cock or anything. After I explained why he has since run off because I don't give him satisfaction of bum and dripping or pussy being fucked pics... | |||
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"If you don’t think this site is looks driven you are deluded. Different people find different folk attractive, looks will always have a major influence in attraction but there will always be someone who thinks you look alright. Cal ---- For me it's naked attraction " Well, this site very much works in that way. Cal | |||
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"If you don’t think this site is looks driven you are deluded." different strokes for different folks..... might be for you... might not be for others! and the beauty in that is that we are all not the same.... wouldn't it be boring if we all were..... | |||
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"If you don’t think this site is looks driven you are deluded. different strokes for different folks..... might be for you... might not be for others! and the beauty in that is that we are all not the same.... wouldn't it be boring if we all were..... " Too right | |||
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"Of course it is but the imbalance between demand and offer is for me the major factor here. There are some ladies here who would struggle to be looked at in the street but who can pretty much pull anybody they want here because there are so few ladies. They can afford being fussy and of course, look comes into play because of this. Do me a favour, why do some men come out with this rudeness Usually because they've been rejected by women they think are unattractive. Which begs the question, why were they trying to fuck women they thought were unattractive? So prime example of what happens on here.... A guy messaged, his introduction wasn't bad at all so he got a response, we chatted a bit. Seemed nice, genuine & very keen. I explained that with Christmas & everything I'm pretty busy so couldn't chat much & wouldn't be able to meet until January some time. All that was fine. But then he messaged constantly, sulked if I didn't reply fast enough, accused me of being an attention seeker because I was chatting with others on here, threw his dummy out the pram when I wasn't willing to chat on kik & told me I'm a fat cunt & he wouldn't want to shag me anyway . & then men wonder why they don't get meets! " Sorry about that sounds awful | |||
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"Of course it is but the imbalance between demand and offer is for me the major factor here. There are some ladies here who would struggle to be looked at in the street but who can pretty much pull anybody they want here because there are so few ladies. They can afford being fussy and of course, look comes into play because of this. Do me a favour, why do some men come out with this rudeness Usually because they've been rejected by women they think are unattractive. Which begs the question, why were they trying to fuck women they thought were unattractive? So prime example of what happens on here.... A guy messaged, his introduction wasn't bad at all so he got a response, we chatted a bit. Seemed nice, genuine & very keen. I explained that with Christmas & everything I'm pretty busy so couldn't chat much & wouldn't be able to meet until January some time. All that was fine. But then he messaged constantly, sulked if I didn't reply fast enough, accused me of being an attention seeker because I was chatting with others on here, threw his dummy out the pram when I wasn't willing to chat on kik & told me I'm a fat cunt & he wouldn't want to shag me anyway . & then men wonder why they don't get meets! Sorry about that sounds awful " Yes, that sounds awful and absolutely disgusting! But not all of us single guys are the same. And I get the impression that most women/couples believe that we are all the same, which is far from true. I guess that's why most single guys like myself have a challenge to meet others. | |||
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"I guess that's why most single guys like myself have a challenge to meet others. Actually, the opposite is the case. The idiots flounder, and the ones that care about crafting their messages are the ones that bounce to the top. Unfortunately, bland, stubborn and entitled don’t make the grade. Have you thought about taking Laughingmimzy up on her offer?" That will require effort though | |||
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"I guess that's why most single guys like myself have a challenge to meet others. Actually, the opposite is the case. The idiots flounder, and the ones that care about crafting their messages are the ones that bounce to the top. Unfortunately, bland, stubborn and entitled don’t make the grade. Have you thought about taking Laughingmimzy up on her offer?" I think your missing my point here or miss understanding me. I do craft my messages and I'm not stubborn (apart from my issue with people ignoring me and my messages). This is my issue, I tailor my messages to suit different people/profiles and I always show respect. And it doesn't get me anywhere. That's why I'm confused, frustrated and lacking faith. Others who have commented on the forum think that I'm not taking advice on board, this isn't the case. I've already said that I will attend a local social event when I can, I've not once dismissed that advice! | |||
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"I guess that's why most single guys like myself have a challenge to meet others. Actually, the opposite is the case. The idiots flounder, and the ones that care about crafting their messages are the ones that bounce to the top. Unfortunately, bland, stubborn and entitled don’t make the grade. Have you thought about taking Laughingmimzy up on her offer? I think your missing my point here or miss understanding me. I do craft my messages and I'm not stubborn (apart from my issue with people ignoring me and my messages). This is my issue, I tailor my messages to suit different people/profiles and I always show respect. And it doesn't get me anywhere. That's why I'm confused, frustrated and lacking faith. Others who have commented on the forum think that I'm not taking advice on board, this isn't the case. I've already said that I will attend a local social event when I can, I've not once dismissed that advice! " But your messages aren’t having any effect, so I suggested you sending one so it can be honestly critiqued. I have a pretty good response to the messages I send, although I tend not to nowadays, as most of my contacts come via the forums, so I must be doing something write, and I guess you’re not. | |||
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"If you don’t think this site is looks driven you are deluded." And what makes you come to that conclusion? Someone turn you down? We don’t all like the same characteristics in people so you are making quite a sweeping statement. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I’m sure you judge on looks as well. | |||
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"I think the difference is that its very easy to to block/ignore or stop talking to people on here. The human race thrives on personal interaction. My opinion or words on here mean nothing but face to face people will listen and engage in conversation. Laugh, have fun and enjoy the interaction. I really dont take this site too seriously but love going to meets and events" Absolutely. Far easier to engage with people at events/clubs/socials. Far more realistic for people who may get bombarded with messages on here to actually interact with people and see if there's an attraction face to face, or just enjoy socialising and enjoying other's company. If I'm attending clubs/events, I'm there to socialise ultimately. I'm approachable and enjoy chatting to new people in person. Like minded people who make the effort to get out there | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke I ignore any message from people I'm not interested in/attracted to and I state this on my profile. No one is entitled to a reply from anyone. Negative/moany status updates tend to make me run a mile also. I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist over being ignored " Ohhh if only you could step into my shoes, then you'd understand! I'm not ignored now and again, literally it's every message that I send out, either read and ignored or read and instantly deleted! Those on here who are successful will never know/understand what it's like to be constantly ignored/rejected! | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke I ignore any message from people I'm not interested in/attracted to and I state this on my profile. No one is entitled to a reply from anyone. Negative/moany status updates tend to make me run a mile also. I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist over being ignored Ohhh if only you could step into my shoes, then you'd understand! I'm not ignored now and again, literally it's every message that I send out, either read and ignored or read and instantly deleted! Those on here who are successful will never know/understand what it's like to be constantly ignored/rejected! " Perhaps you need to re-read the faq section, particularly where is says no reply is no interest and stop taking things so personally. | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke I ignore any message from people I'm not interested in/attracted to and I state this on my profile. No one is entitled to a reply from anyone. Negative/moany status updates tend to make me run a mile also. I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist over being ignored Ohhh if only you could step into my shoes, then you'd understand! I'm not ignored now and again, literally it's every message that I send out, either read and ignored or read and instantly deleted! Those on here who are successful will never know/understand what it's like to be constantly ignored/rejected! " Some women only like guys of a certain height/age/sexuality. I personally won't entertain anyone who doesn't fit the criteria on my profile. Guys who can't accommodate are a deal breaker for me immediately. Perhaps check what you're offering on your profile matches up with what someone else is after. Failing that, as suggested many times, get yourself to socials/events and let your dazzling personality win people over. It's far more effective. Plus you'll get yourself some charming verifications (something I look for on a profile) | |||
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"If you don’t think this site is looks driven you are deluded." Blame biology. The body is trained to only interact with things it likes the look of. When was the last time you petted an unfriendly-looking dog or ate a meal that looked like pavement pizza? | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke I ignore any message from people I'm not interested in/attracted to and I state this on my profile. No one is entitled to a reply from anyone. Negative/moany status updates tend to make me run a mile also. I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist over being ignored Ohhh if only you could step into my shoes, then you'd understand! I'm not ignored now and again, literally it's every message that I send out, either read and ignored or read and instantly deleted! Those on here who are successful will never know/understand what it's like to be constantly ignored/rejected! Perhaps you need to re-read the faq section, particularly where is says no reply is no interest and stop taking things so personally. " No reply is a no interest... Well I'm getting no replies at all so if that's the case then perhaps I should just leave!! Clearly I'm not worthy of anyones time | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke I ignore any message from people I'm not interested in/attracted to and I state this on my profile. No one is entitled to a reply from anyone. Negative/moany status updates tend to make me run a mile also. I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist over being ignored Ohhh if only you could step into my shoes, then you'd understand! I'm not ignored now and again, literally it's every message that I send out, either read and ignored or read and instantly deleted! Those on here who are successful will never know/understand what it's like to be constantly ignored/rejected! Perhaps you need to re-read the faq section, particularly where is says no reply is no interest and stop taking things so personally. No reply is a no interest... Well I'm getting no replies at all so if that's the case then perhaps I should just leave!! Clearly I'm not worthy of anyones time " Or how about this for a mad idea. Actually do what people are telling you to do. | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke I ignore any message from people I'm not interested in/attracted to and I state this on my profile. No one is entitled to a reply from anyone. Negative/moany status updates tend to make me run a mile also. I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist over being ignored Ohhh if only you could step into my shoes, then you'd understand! I'm not ignored now and again, literally it's every message that I send out, either read and ignored or read and instantly deleted! Those on here who are successful will never know/understand what it's like to be constantly ignored/rejected! Perhaps you need to re-read the faq section, particularly where is says no reply is no interest and stop taking things so personally. No reply is a no interest... Well I'm getting no replies at all so if that's the case then perhaps I should just leave!! Clearly I'm not worthy of anyones time Or how about this for a mad idea. Actually do what people are telling you to do. " Jeees, I've already said that I will attend a local social event when I get the spare time! Why does every one bang on about going to a social when I've already said that I haven't ruled it out?!! | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke I ignore any message from people I'm not interested in/attracted to and I state this on my profile. No one is entitled to a reply from anyone. Negative/moany status updates tend to make me run a mile also. I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist over being ignored Ohhh if only you could step into my shoes, then you'd understand! I'm not ignored now and again, literally it's every message that I send out, either read and ignored or read and instantly deleted! Those on here who are successful will never know/understand what it's like to be constantly ignored/rejected! Perhaps you need to re-read the faq section, particularly where is says no reply is no interest and stop taking things so personally. No reply is a no interest... Well I'm getting no replies at all so if that's the case then perhaps I should just leave!! Clearly I'm not worthy of anyones time Or how about this for a mad idea. Actually do what people are telling you to do. Jeees, I've already said that I will attend a local social event when I get the spare time! Why does every one bang on about going to a social when I've already said that I haven't ruled it out?!! " Enjoy your social, I'm sure you'll meet a few interesting people there, come back and let us know how it went. X | |||
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"Because you’re still bitching about no one must fancy you. Being ugly is more than just looks. Personality can make you uglier " I've got a great personality thanks! Trouble on here is that no one can find out what my personality is actually like because no one will give me a chance to let myself shine! And that would be the soul reason to why I'm 'bithching' | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke I ignore any message from people I'm not interested in/attracted to and I state this on my profile. No one is entitled to a reply from anyone. Negative/moany status updates tend to make me run a mile also. I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist over being ignored Ohhh if only you could step into my shoes, then you'd understand! I'm not ignored now and again, literally it's every message that I send out, either read and ignored or read and instantly deleted! Those on here who are successful will never know/understand what it's like to be constantly ignored/rejected! Perhaps you need to re-read the faq section, particularly where is says no reply is no interest and stop taking things so personally. No reply is a no interest... Well I'm getting no replies at all so if that's the case then perhaps I should just leave!! Clearly I'm not worthy of anyones time Or how about this for a mad idea. Actually do what people are telling you to do. Jeees, I've already said that I will attend a local social event when I get the spare time! Why does every one bang on about going to a social when I've already said that I haven't ruled it out?!! Enjoy your social, I'm sure you'll meet a few interesting people there, come back and let us know how it went. X" Thank you, finally something positive aimed towards me! And I will write on the forum with details of the event and how it went | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke I ignore any message from people I'm not interested in/attracted to and I state this on my profile. No one is entitled to a reply from anyone. Negative/moany status updates tend to make me run a mile also. I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist over being ignored Ohhh if only you could step into my shoes, then you'd understand! I'm not ignored now and again, literally it's every message that I send out, either read and ignored or read and instantly deleted! Those on here who are successful will never know/understand what it's like to be constantly ignored/rejected! Perhaps you need to re-read the faq section, particularly where is says no reply is no interest and stop taking things so personally. No reply is a no interest... Well I'm getting no replies at all so if that's the case then perhaps I should just leave!! Clearly I'm not worthy of anyones time Or how about this for a mad idea. Actually do what people are telling you to do. Jeees, I've already said that I will attend a local social event when I get the spare time! Why does every one bang on about going to a social when I've already said that I haven't ruled it out?!! Enjoy your social, I'm sure you'll meet a few interesting people there, come back and let us know how it went. X Thank you, finally something positive aimed towards me! And I will write on the forum with details of the event and how it went " | |||
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" Jeees, I've already said that I will attend a local social event when I get the spare time! Why does every one bang on about going to a social when I've already said that I haven't ruled it out?!! Enjoy your social, I'm sure you'll meet a few interesting people there, come back and let us know how it went. Thank you, finally something positive aimed towards me! And I will write on the forum with details of the event and how it went " Why not pop along this Friday?https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/london/960915 I’d be more than happy to meet you and introduce you to some of the other attendees. | |||
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" Jeees, I've already said that I will attend a local social event when I get the spare time! Why does every one bang on about going to a social when I've already said that I haven't ruled it out?!! Enjoy your social, I'm sure you'll meet a few interesting people there, come back and let us know how it went. Thank you, finally something positive aimed towards me! And I will write on the forum with details of the event and how it went Why not pop along this Friday?https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/london/960915 I’d be more than happy to meet you and introduce you to some of the other attendees. " I'd love to but I am busy for the next couple of weeks, hence why I said I will attend a social when I next have the spare time. But hopefully that will be very soon | |||
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" Everyone is wait with open arms to welcome you but you must take a step forward on your own. Well that's the biggest load of s**t I've ever heard from these forums! Instead of people welcoming me with open arms, I'm continously ignored as if I'm invisible! What a joke I ignore any message from people I'm not interested in/attracted to and I state this on my profile. No one is entitled to a reply from anyone. Negative/moany status updates tend to make me run a mile also. I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist over being ignored Ohhh if only you could step into my shoes, then you'd understand! I'm not ignored now and again, literally it's every message that I send out, either read and ignored or read and instantly deleted! Those on here who are successful will never know/understand what it's like to be constantly ignored/rejected! " This has Happened to all 3x messages I’ve sent today along with a face pic. I’m not going to cry about it, sure it’s not the greatest feeling but if you don’t buy a ticket you can’t win the lottery | |||
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"I don't agree tbh,there is obviously an element of physical attraction,but for me,chemistry is everything." But chemistry can only be established through meet. | |||
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"And there me thinking that it’s cock pic run!! T" | |||
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"I think theres an element of truth. But equally contact is via the written word so the ability to hold a conversation is arguably more important. " | |||
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"To an extent aye, conventionally attractive people will probably get more interest initially. But they've got to maintain that interest with their communication, and if they have shit chat I'll lose interest very quickly. On the flip side, someone I may not initially be very attracted to can become more so as I get to know them. " Alright aye! Just sayin hi | |||
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"Isn’t delusion a projection from a person’s perspective, don’t understand who is delusional here?" Totally agree here.. I get very few messages on any accounts.. Never have!! Ive only ever managed to get a couple of meets direct off here in the old days ( been on here 14 years )and only because theyd met people I know. Yet I've had nearly 2000k verification s ( social and other ) Most of my messages start ""I know you must be inundated by loads of messages from wasters/ losers etc."" I'm really not sure where this theory (delusion) started. But messages or not (many hot couples I know also dont receive many ). This self regulated opinion is unhealthy. I know females personally on the top fabs and others who are unindated with 100s of messages daily. Their rate of meets and blowouts and wasters is just magnified..they struggle to understand why they cant keep a regular FB or get reliable meets! I find the site can be very confident building to some and demoralising for others for all the wrong reasons. The main differences is if you are more active on line, post more pictures and if you dont show a face picture you'll definately intrigue more people. Verifications help. Those who are active in the club scenes attract interest but it still doesn't mean they dont struggle to get meets like everyone else. Will it increase your success rate or ability to meet decent people ?? Of course not Nothing beats real life chemistry. Some of the hottest loveliest funniest naughiest people I've met in the scene socially have had the plainest profiles. And some of the less attractive people... including mannerisms egos mental health issues, keyboard warriors and basic fakes in the flesh has some very well marketed profiles !! Cyberland will never beat REAL LIFE CHEMISTRY.. Use it as a tool to a possible meet.. That's great.. but not as a substitute for all that's natural in Life | |||
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