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"Heard this from a podcast interview and from speaking to some couples. Here’s our theory. Straight couples struggle to meet couples because the majority are bi-fem and want girl/girl play. There’s not much choice left of solely straight couples. 4 way attraction is always difficult. If the couple are in their 40s or above then finding couples with fit attractive guys is tough. So the couple try a single guy. Generally they have lots of choice so can choose fit, attractive, well hung guys who are usually of a higher standard than guys in couples; just because there is a bigger population of single guys. Having experienced that the couple return to meeting couples but the male of any couple they meet can’t compete with the single guys. So couple end up meeting more and more single guys and rarely find a couple to play with. This sounds familiar to us. Does it ring true with anyone else? " I had never thought of that before, and I am a single girl not a couple but it actually does make sense. It never occurred to me before though | |||
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"Heard this from a podcast interview and from speaking to some couples. Here’s our theory. Straight couples struggle to meet couples because the majority are bi-fem and want girl/girl play. There’s not much choice left of solely straight couples. 4 way attraction is always difficult. If the couple are in their 40s or above then finding couples with fit attractive guys is tough. So the couple try a single guy. Generally they have lots of choice so can choose fit, attractive, well hung guys who are usually of a higher standard than guys in couples; just because there is a bigger population of single guys. Having experienced that the couple return to meeting couples but the male of any couple they meet can’t compete with the single guys. So couple end up meeting more and more single guys and rarely find a couple to play with. This sounds familiar to us. Does it ring true with anyone else? " so youre saying in general it's the male of the couple that let's themselves go in terms of looks, wow maybe that's a swinging thing | |||
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"Heard this from a podcast interview and from speaking to some couples. Here’s our theory. Straight couples struggle to meet couples because the majority are bi-fem and want girl/girl play. There’s not much choice left of solely straight couples. 4 way attraction is always difficult. If the couple are in their 40s or above then finding couples with fit attractive guys is tough. So the couple try a single guy. Generally they have lots of choice so can choose fit, attractive, well hung guys who are usually of a higher standard than guys in couples; just because there is a bigger population of single guys. Having experienced that the couple return to meeting couples but the male of any couple they meet can’t compete with the single guys. So couple end up meeting more and more single guys and rarely find a couple to play with. This sounds familiar to us. Does it ring true with anyone else? " No We meet single guys because that's how we started swinging and what we enjoy. I'm sure couples that only meet couples,aren't going to meet single guys just because they can't find a suitable couple They are more likely to just give up swinging | |||
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"Heard this from a podcast interview and from speaking to some couples. Here’s our theory. Straight couples struggle to meet couples because the majority are bi-fem and want girl/girl play. There’s not much choice left of solely straight couples. 4 way attraction is always difficult. If the couple are in their 40s or above then finding couples with fit attractive guys is tough. So the couple try a single guy. Generally they have lots of choice so can choose fit, attractive, well hung guys who are usually of a higher standard than guys in couples; just because there is a bigger population of single guys. Having experienced that the couple return to meeting couples but the male of any couple they meet can’t compete with the single guys. So couple end up meeting more and more single guys and rarely find a couple to play with. This sounds familiar to us. Does it ring true with anyone else? No We meet single guys because that's how we started swinging and what we enjoy. I'm sure couples that only meet couples,aren't going to meet single guys just because they can't find a suitable couple They are more likely to just give up swinging " We not really saying it’s a couples who only meet couples issue. The couple start off wanting to explore sexual adventures. They try couples but can’t find couples who they’re all attracted to. They then try a single guy as an experiment as it’s very easy and they can get a really good quality guy. After that the couple can’t find couples their own age where the male is more desirable than the single guy they just met. So they drift into meeting single guys as it allows them to stay in the scene. Unless of course they drop their standards and take one for the team. Think for a guy who is in a couple it’s probably more exciting meeting single guys with wife than giving up completely | |||
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"Heard this from a podcast interview and from speaking to some couples. Here’s our theory. Straight couples struggle to meet couples because the majority are bi-fem and want girl/girl play. There’s not much choice left of solely straight couples. 4 way attraction is always difficult. If the couple are in their 40s or above then finding couples with fit attractive guys is tough. So the couple try a single guy. Generally they have lots of choice so can choose fit, attractive, well hung guys who are usually of a higher standard than guys in couples; just because there is a bigger population of single guys. Having experienced that the couple return to meeting couples but the male of any couple they meet can’t compete with the single guys. So couple end up meeting more and more single guys and rarely find a couple to play with. This sounds familiar to us. Does it ring true with anyone else? so youre saying in general it's the male of the couple that let's themselves go in terms of looks, wow maybe that's a swinging thing " Our experience is that when people let themselves go then both do. The majority of couples in middle age are overweight. We’re not being disrespectful of anyone here. It’s just a fact. However an overweight woman on the site will not struggle to get meets with single guys. An overweight guy will really struggle with meets. So if you’re an overweight straight middle age couple and you’ve met a buff 35 year old guy, just once, then those other overweight males of another couple are just not as attractive any more as you can and have had better on the site. Again no disrespect to anyone but it is a fact of life. We think anyway | |||
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"Heard this from a podcast interview and from speaking to some couples. Here’s our theory. Straight couples struggle to meet couples because the majority are bi-fem and want girl/girl play. There’s not much choice left of solely straight couples. 4 way attraction is always difficult. If the couple are in their 40s or above then finding couples with fit attractive guys is tough. So the couple try a single guy. Generally they have lots of choice so can choose fit, attractive, well hung guys who are usually of a higher standard than guys in couples; just because there is a bigger population of single guys. Having experienced that the couple return to meeting couples but the male of any couple they meet can’t compete with the single guys. So couple end up meeting more and more single guys and rarely find a couple to play with. This sounds familiar to us. Does it ring true with anyone else? No We meet single guys because that's how we started swinging and what we enjoy. I'm sure couples that only meet couples,aren't going to meet single guys just because they can't find a suitable couple They are more likely to just give up swinging We not really saying it’s a couples who only meet couples issue. The couple start off wanting to explore sexual adventures. They try couples but can’t find couples who they’re all attracted to. They then try a single guy as an experiment as it’s very easy and they can get a really good quality guy. After that the couple can’t find couples their own age where the male is more desirable than the single guy they just met. So they drift into meeting single guys as it allows them to stay in the scene. Unless of course they drop their standards and take one for the team. Think for a guy who is in a couple it’s probably more exciting meeting single guys with wife than giving up completely " It's a good observation and probably correct to a large extent. Whilst it's by no means always true, generally speaking the guys in couples are older than the ladies and i'm afraid older guys don't cut it compared to younger guys -it's a fact of life. So as a female whether in a couple or a single, and looking for sex hookups through this site, the obvious choice given that there is such a large choice, is for younger guys. We do love to meet couples, but it is hard to find couples where everyone clicks. We have even met some single ladies (even rarer) but yes it is much easier to find single guys & luckily (I -Mr) enjoy seeing my partner having fun so it works for us too. | |||
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"In my swinging experience the guy in couples is generally far less attractive than the girl. " Simple answer. If you're a guy in a couple you need to stay in shape, not take the foot off the pedal. The ladies in mature couples have more of a problem (child birth etc), and a lot of guys think, job done, now I can relax. But ladies worry more about their figures and generally shape up. So guys, it's easier to stay fit than get fit after a long lay off. | |||
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"Heard this from a podcast interview and from speaking to some couples. Here’s our theory. Straight couples struggle to meet couples because the majority are bi-fem and want girl/girl play. There’s not much choice left of solely straight couples. 4 way attraction is always difficult. If the couple are in their 40s or above then finding couples with fit attractive guys is tough. So the couple try a single guy. Generally they have lots of choice so can choose fit, attractive, well hung guys who are usually of a higher standard than guys in couples; just because there is a bigger population of single guys. Having experienced that the couple return to meeting couples but the male of any couple they meet can’t compete with the single guys. So couple end up meeting more and more single guys and rarely find a couple to play with. This sounds familiar to us. Does it ring true with anyone else? No We meet single guys because that's how we started swinging and what we enjoy. I'm sure couples that only meet couples,aren't going to meet single guys just because they can't find a suitable couple They are more likely to just give up swinging " A mmf 3some is a completely different dynamic. It is true of course that a 4 way attraction is more difficult ( but not impossible). We just move on, but would certainly not just resort to a single guy( or woman), because of the difficulty. Stopping swinging is not an option either ! | |||
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"In my swinging experience the guy in couples is generally far less attractive than the girl. Simple answer. If you're a guy in a couple you need to stay in shape, not take the foot off the pedal. The ladies in mature couples have more of a problem (child birth etc), and a lot of guys think, job done, now I can relax. But ladies worry more about their figures and generally shape up. So guys, it's easier to stay fit than get fit after a long lay off. " Absolutely true. I cannot for the life in me understand why a guy does not shape up ( medical issues aside); more so in the swinging world. Lost count the number of times mouse has said “ its a no from me”. This also leads on to why there are relatively few male pics in a couples profile. We have to constantly ask for them. Again number of times I have said “ darling, this couple look nice”. Mouse “ you mean SHE looks nice” lol | |||
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"In my swinging experience the guy in couples is generally far less attractive than the girl. Simple answer. If you're a guy in a couple you need to stay in shape, not take the foot off the pedal. The ladies in mature couples have more of a problem (child birth etc), and a lot of guys think, job done, now I can relax. But ladies worry more about their figures and generally shape up. So guys, it's easier to stay fit than get fit after a long lay off. Absolutely true. I cannot for the life in me understand why a guy does not shape up ( medical issues aside); more so in the swinging world. Lost count the number of times mouse has said “ its a no from me”. This also leads on to why there are relatively few male pics in a couples profile. We have to constantly ask for them. Again number of times I have said “ darling, this couple look nice”. Mouse “ you mean SHE looks nice” lol" Haha, this rings a bell. It is amazing how people enter swinging when they are out of shape. Surely attraction is the number one. We would never play if we weren't attracted to the other couple. We will always prefer couples meets but when we have met a single guy he has had to be exceptional. Mr is 6'2" and athletic and fit so why would we make compromises. | |||
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"Heard this from a podcast interview and from speaking to some couples. Here’s our theory. Straight couples struggle to meet couples because the majority are bi-fem and want girl/girl play. There’s not much choice left of solely straight couples. 4 way attraction is always difficult. If the couple are in their 40s or above then finding couples with fit attractive guys is tough. So the couple try a single guy. Generally they have lots of choice so can choose fit, attractive, well hung guys who are usually of a higher standard than guys in couples; just because there is a bigger population of single guys. Having experienced that the couple return to meeting couples but the male of any couple they meet can’t compete with the single guys. So couple end up meeting more and more single guys and rarely find a couple to play with. This sounds familiar to us. Does it ring true with anyone else? " we do meet more single guys than couples as I get really turned on watching wife with guys. But we still enjoy meeting couples as wife enjoys other women as much a guys. We want to go to a few more party's as women relax much more at party's than at clubs. But wife can have more of a choice of guys at club or how many she wants to play with | |||
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"Moral of the story ....don't let yourself go out of shape *if* you're the male part of a swinging couple (other takeaway is that, most women in their 40s aren't exactly svelte ...so clearly the male part of a couple aren't as fussy when looking at other couples's femmes!)" We like to think we are in decent shape. Normal BMI, go running, sometimes half marathons, do weights, watch our eating. However when we meet couples it’s rare to find couples in as good shape. It happens but it’s rare. To be honest 80% of the couples we meet both are overweight. Don’t think it’s just a ‘guys in couples need to look after themselves’ thing. We’re not having a go at people. Again it’s just a fact in society that a huge portion of people aren’t in the best condition and that gets worse with age. It’s rare that a couple can’t pull off a single guy meet no matter how out of shape the couple are. | |||
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".... Straight couples struggle to meet couples because the majority are bi-fem and want girl/girl play. There’s not much choice left of solely straight couples. 4 way attraction is always difficult. " This sounds 100% true. I think that most of the couples start swinging because a lady wants to try with another woman. We have this problem too. Kama is more straight than bi. She is not scared of the other woman but won’t be deeply cuddling or doing a pussy-play or play girl on girl. We visit clubs time to time (mainly Chams) and sometimes we find someone and sometimes not. Often we are inviting single guys too but not because we are desperate, but because we like it too. But purely to play with Kama. I’m not bi at all ! | |||
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"Heard this from a podcast interview and from speaking to some couples. Here’s our theory. Straight couples struggle to meet couples because the majority are bi-fem and want girl/girl play. There’s not much choice left of solely straight couples. 4 way attraction is always difficult. If the couple are in their 40s or above then finding couples with fit attractive guys is tough. So the couple try a single guy. Generally they have lots of choice so can choose fit, attractive, well hung guys who are usually of a higher standard than guys in couples; just because there is a bigger population of single guys. Having experienced that the couple return to meeting couples but the male of any couple they meet can’t compete with the single guys. So couple end up meeting more and more single guys and rarely find a couple to play with. This sounds familiar to us. Does it ring true with anyone else? " Absolutely spot on in our experience | |||
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"Heard this from a podcast interview and from speaking to some couples. Here’s our theory. Straight couples struggle to meet couples because the majority are bi-fem and want girl/girl play. There’s not much choice left of solely straight couples. 4 way attraction is always difficult. If the couple are in their 40s or above then finding couples with fit attractive guys is tough. So the couple try a single guy. Generally they have lots of choice so can choose fit, attractive, well hung guys who are usually of a higher standard than guys in couples; just because there is a bigger population of single guys. Having experienced that the couple return to meeting couples but the male of any couple they meet can’t compete with the single guys. So couple end up meeting more and more single guys and rarely find a couple to play with. This sounds familiar to us. Does it ring true with anyone else? " Interesting observation - we find to the contrary in that swinging middle aged couples we meet keep themselves in very good shape - much more so than couples in everyday life. It’s all to do with being discerning in your searches I guess - although to be honest if we met a lovely couple we clicked socially with we certainly wouldn’t discount them for carrying a little middle age timber. | |||
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"Heard this from a podcast interview What was the podcast please?" Listen to Keys and Anklets podcast. Some very interesting interviews. | |||
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"NO not in the slightest we wouldn't at all the wife isn't interested in meeting makes at all We are looking to meet bi females for her to explore her bisexuality ,we've been to clubs where she could of had her pick of men and she wasn't interested. If we were to meet a couple she'd only play with the female. So to conclude if we couldnt meet women wed leave the site " Yes but we said do *straight* couples end up meeting single guys. Your profile says you are a bi-fem couple. | |||
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"Heard this from a podcast interview and from speaking to some couples. Here’s our theory. Straight couples struggle to meet couples because the majority are bi-fem and want girl/girl play. There’s not much choice left of solely straight couples. 4 way attraction is always difficult. If the couple are in their 40s or above then finding couples with fit attractive guys is tough. So the couple try a single guy. Generally they have lots of choice so can choose fit, attractive, well hung guys who are usually of a higher standard than guys in couples; just because there is a bigger population of single guys. Having experienced that the couple return to meeting couples but the male of any couple they meet can’t compete with the single guys. So couple end up meeting more and more single guys and rarely find a couple to play with. This sounds familiar to us. Does it ring true with anyone else? so youre saying in general it's the male of the couple that let's themselves go in terms of looks, wow maybe that's a swinging thing Our experience is that when people let themselves go then both do. The majority of couples in middle age are overweight. We’re not being disrespectful of anyone here. It’s just a fact. However an overweight woman on the site will not struggle to get meets with single guys. An overweight guy will really struggle with meets. So if you’re an overweight straight middle age couple and you’ve met a buff 35 year old guy, just once, then those other overweight males of another couple are just not as attractive any more as you can and have had better on the site. Again no disrespect to anyone but it is a fact of life. We think anyway " I agree with this also men aren't as shallow as women are some guys are just happy to be involved | |||
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