FabSwingers.com forum: Totally bi, curious or pretending

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Last year we met a couple who claimed to be a straight man and a bi curious lady. We chatted to the for sometime and found we actually liked them. The lady's husband got called away for work for a few months. She decided to meet us on her own, which was cool.

We met her had a few drinks and started to have fun. As an experienced bisexual lady I took the lead with her, and proceeded to do what I needed to do. As the night wore on I noticed she was all too interested in my husband and when she did try with me all she did was butcher my parts with a toy! I did tell her while I was being butchered it hurt so she stopped and then worked with my husband.

I have been with many curious ladies and they usually put in a bit more effort than that. Also I found out later she had changed her status to straight after what I did for her. Then come to find out her change she said that she was only doing it for her husbands needs if she doesn't do it then he will get it somewhere else.

Is this something that is common? This is the first time I have experienced this or am I being to unreasonable?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do oral on her she reciprocates ....... she's bi. She doesn't then she isn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I once played with a couple where, after me and him had played a bit, she got a little funny, things seemed to change and it was all about the two of them with me feeling like a spare part.

I wouldn't have wanted to meet them again but funnily enough didn't hear off them either!

I did sometimes wonder what the deal was and if there was more to it than met the eye - everything had been fine when it was me and her and before hand as well! Hey ho.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I class myself as Bi playfull in the right setting I wont meet couples as a single but will meet in club setting I am attracted to ladies but I do prefer giving than recieving have played with a few but always in a group situation dont think I could ply with ladies one on one as to me it is not enough and I still need a juicy cock to play with.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

That's sad they made you to feel you were a spare part, sounds like she was pulling what this lady did to me. What was even more insulting while I was asleep she tried to screw my husband too. We hear from these two every now and then but it's only her husband telling me his wife should be more like me? WTF? Confused much?

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

Far too many couples swing to please the other, sadly women saying they are bi to fufill hubbies fantasies is far too common,its why i insist on social meets when playing with couples.

i have initiated a few women into the joys of lady love, its always clear if they are interested or not.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

What you do is fine at least you aren't getting people involved and not lying about who you are to please anyone x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

No man is worth me making do what I don't want to do its simple. The name of this game is the ladies must be happy in doing what ever it is. Nothing works without the ladies enjoying

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I gave this lady a wide berth and wasn't pushy but she didn't need to butcher me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sex with men I love with ladies I have to click with and be able to have a giggle and be totally attracted to them. Couples are so hard as a single either click with one or the other very rare I click with both.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Sex with men I love with ladies I have to click with and be able to have a giggle and be totally attracted to them. Couples are so hard as a single either click with one or the other very rare I click with both."

That is true you need to have some kind of chemistry with the people you meet or else the experience goes to pot and no one enjoys. I know what you mean it's hard to click with everyone x

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

I have explored this side and while I have thoroughly enjoyed a skilled woman playing with me I have mo desire to reciprocate. So I'm straight.

However, I have been in group situations where I have glanced down and.noticed that the person pleasuring me is female, as long as I'm enjoying it, they're enjoying it and ate ok for me to not return the favour then I'm mot going to stop them!

I'm not sure what this makes me, other.than aware of my personal boundaries. I see no reason to label myself.

I do get frustrated though when it is assumed that I'm bi.cos I swing...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have explored this side and while I have thoroughly enjoyed a skilled woman playing with me I have mo desire to reciprocate. So I'm straight.

I'm not sure what this makes me, other.than aware of my personal boundaries. I see no reason to label myself.

I do get frustrated though when it is assumed that I'm bi.cos I swing..."

I get fed up with labels if I enjoy something I enjoy it no big deal

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have explored this side and while I have thoroughly enjoyed a skilled woman playing with me I have mo desire to reciprocate. So I'm straight.

I'm not sure what this makes me, other.than aware of my personal boundaries. I see no reason to label myself.

I do get frustrated though when it is assumed that I'm bi.cos I swing..."

Well it's cool if you do it like that also at least you aren't claiming bisexuality to make someone happy at least you are honest with yourself it just makes me a little sad that we went a long way to meet her and she wasnt even honest about herself x

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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago

London

We find an awful lot of bi ladies in couples are just doing it for show

the bi males on the other hand other way round

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We find an awful lot of bi ladies in couples are just doing it for show

the bi males on the other hand other way round"

I don't think these pretend bi ladies realise what kind of hurt they do. I know it's just sex but it makes you question yourself when you are with them. If she was honest we wouldn't haven't even have gone to meet her. It pisses me off that she tried it on with my husband when I was asleep.

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By *unterslickCouple
over a year ago

tullamore

j is bi curious still,,,i say still for the simple reason that everytime we meet a couple/female, shes curious to see what happens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Last year we met a couple who claimed to be a straight man and a bi curious lady. We chatted to the for sometime and found we actually liked them. The lady's husband got called away for work for a few months. She decided to meet us on her own, which was cool.

Is this something that is common? This is the first time I have experienced this or am I being to unreasonable? "

as a bi girl i actually think its quite common

xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do oral on her she reciprocates ....... she's bi. She doesn't then she isn't. "

actually this is a really good way of knowing if they r or just pretending xxxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I do oral on her she reciprocates ....... she's bi. She doesn't then she isn't.

actually this is a really good way of knowing if they r or just pretending xxxx"

She told me that she was feeling self concious why she couldn't reciprocate WTF? Then changes her status to straight? When we do chat to couples I tend to ask are the lady are you totally sure because I'm not wasting my time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So because I prefe giving than receiving I am not bi. I love the ladies and I love playing.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So because I prefe giving than receiving I am not bi. I love the ladies and I love playing."

You are bi you classify yourself as one, giving and recieving is a choice thing lesbians do it also but they are lesbians. At least you are putting the effort in xx

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

some will say anything for a meet.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"some will say anything for a meet....."

She was only doing it for her husband? She told me if I don't do this he will get it else where.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

her hubby would be mad to miss a chance to play with you anyway, so there both out of luck

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"her hubby would be mad to miss a chance to play with you anyway, so there both out of luck

Lol he tries now he's home from his work thing lol x

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

It's also totally against the swinging ethos for her to be doing something which she has basically been bullied into!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we have had quite a few mff sessions over the years before we progressed to soft swing with cpls who were both bi-I think my wife had her 1st mff session bcos she knew it turned me on-as our mff sessions continued Im sure my wife enjoyed our mffs but she had to genuinely like the other lady - I noticed over the years that all the ladies we "seduced" into our mffs were married or if single had boyfriends-all were "persuaded" after a glass of wine with a simple board or card game to take part in our mffs-most had no advance knowledge of their sexy evening to come but not one of them refused to take part or refused to have bisex with my beautiful wife- -were we very lucky in our selections or are all ladies bisexual to some degree

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't attempt seduction or persuasion. If they wish to reciprocate that is fine I take their lead, I never try to play bi with a straight lady unless it is some thing she wants to initiate.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It's also totally against the swinging ethos for her to be doing something which she has basically been bullied into!

I'm totally against being bullied into things that's why I asked why do it... You are clearly not into it her excuse is to keep her man happy I say PFFT to that if my husband acted like him I'd leave him and wouldn't look back

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"we have had quite a few mff sessions over the years before we progressed to soft swing with cpls who were both bi-I think my wife had her 1st mff session bcos she knew it turned me on-as our mff sessions continued Im sure my wife enjoyed our mffs but she had to genuinely like the other lady - I noticed over the years that all the ladies we "seduced" into our mffs were married or if single had boyfriends-all were "persuaded" after a glass of wine with a simple board or card game to take part in our mffs-most had no advance knowledge of their sexy evening to come but not one of them refused to take part or refused to have bisex with my beautiful wife- -were we very lucky in our selections or are all ladies bisexual to some degree"

That's great you have been lucky like that not all of us are as lucky I got a dud that day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"her hubby would be mad to miss a chance to play with you anyway, so there both out of luck

Lol he tries now he's home from his work thing lol x"

I bet he does, i bloody would if was in your area

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"her hubby would be mad to miss a chance to play with you anyway, so there both out of luck

Lol he tries now he's home from his work thing lol x

I bet he does, i bloody would if was in your area

Ha ha thanks I'm not looking to sexy right now though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a bi woman I can be soo shy at asking compared to men.

Don't get me wrong I know body language etc but I get all coy and shy.

The last woman I played with just grabbed me snogged me put her breasts in my face and I knew it was ok.

I'm expecting a comment now as people who I've met etc I can be gobby loud etc but shy. (yup)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have been reading this thread with interest as I am currently thinking of meeting a couple as a bi fem on my own for the 1st time. I am worried about the dynamics of it all and seem to br "dragging out" the chats a bit just so I am sure about what they want/expect! I have met my fair share of "pillow princesses" when meeting as a couple but not sure how I would go on should this happen as a single x

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By *razydriver8Couple
over a year ago

plymouth

i was bi before i meet fsm. and as a single female then, i meet a few " pillow princess" (thanks belles for the name lol )

anyway you could almost always tell, as soon as i would reach over to caress her breasts or touch her thighs, they would stiffen up..

belles.. i left a meet when in that situation. and refused to stay. xx

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"As a bi woman I can be soo shy at asking compared to men.

Don't get me wrong I know body language etc but I get all coy and shy.

The last woman I played with just grabbed me snogged me put her breasts in my face and I knew it was ok.

I'm expecting a comment now as people who I've met etc I can be gobby loud etc but shy. (yup)

same here...recently went to partners and there were a couple of women i really wanted to play with...but i just get too shy...no one believes me though...which may have something to do with giving a guy a bj in the middle of the bar

But i am totally different with men and women

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But i am totally different with men and women"

I'm completely the same!!! x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its because of the very issues the OP is talking about is why we do not put bi on our profile, even though the two of us have had oral bisexual experiences - we are not bi we are just playing at it, in the right setting, at the right time, if it feels good we will play that way. Others on here have called us in denial but that is not the case.

Last weekend I had two ladies play with me in a club on the bed in front of everyone else. These ladies were talented with their tongues, I enjoyed it sexually and I got off on being watched by guys. I did not reciprocate at all. These ladies knew I wasn't interested in. Licking them but they wanted to touch me and I was happy for that to happen.

As long as everyone knows the score and is not playing to suit someone else and its enjoyable for all concerned, then all is well

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"As a bi woman I can be soo shy at asking compared to men.

Don't get me wrong I know body language etc but I get all coy and shy.

The last woman I played with just grabbed me snogged me put her breasts in my face and I knew it was ok.

I'm expecting a comment now as people who I've met etc I can be gobby loud etc but shy. (yup)

Shy and coy is sweet and cute but this one wasnt being shy she just wasn't bisexual that's all

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have been reading this thread with interest as I am currently thinking of meeting a couple as a bi fem on my own for the 1st time. I am worried about the dynamics of it all and seem to br "dragging out" the chats a bit just so I am sure about what they want/expect! I have met my fair share of "pillow princesses" when meeting as a couple but not sure how I would go on should this happen as a single x"

From experience if the couple is a happy couple you should be the cherry on top to enhance the sexual experience. Give this couple a chance once you feel a little uncomfortable I would just leave them. I know for a fact if we got lucky and met a really nice bi lady I wouldnt be a pillow princess with her! X

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Its because of the very issues the OP is talking about is why we do not put bi on our profile, even though the two of us have had oral bisexual experiences - we are not bi we are just playing at it, in the right setting, at the right time, if it feels good we will play that way. Others on here have called us in denial but that is not the case.

As long as everyone knows the score and is not playing to suit someone else and its enjoyable for all concerned, then all is well

That's fine you like to just recieving oral sex from ladies, but they know you straight that's your prerogative. However they know you are straight, this lady lied about her sexuality which is what I'm getting at she took the helm when it came to playing with my husband and made a point of leaving me out of anything to do with sex? Also she made a point of trying to screw my husband when I was asleep.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank you for that - strangely - chatting on line tonight - Mr has suddenly expressed an interest in meeting me on a 1-2-1 basis - once I've "met them as a couple, of course" - hmmmmmmmm - will have to keep you posted x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Meet you on his own is his wife ok with this? To me it sounds like she doesn't know maybe I'm wrong X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Meet you on his own is his wife ok with this? To me it sounds like she doesn't know maybe I'm wrong X"

Nope - I think you're absolutely right!!! He went very quiet and offline when I asked him what Mrs would think of that! Looks like I possibly wont be having some couple fun - hey ho!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Meet you on his own is his wife ok with this? To me it sounds like she doesn't know maybe I'm wrong X

Nope - I think you're absolutely right!!! He went very quiet and offline when I asked him what Mrs would think of that! Looks like I possibly wont be having some couple fun - hey ho!

Aww that's sad that he got all weird he was caught out. I know this doesn't make up for things if you made a date with us we wouldn't do what he did and we would see it thru x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have explored this side and while I have thoroughly enjoyed a skilled woman playing with me I have mo desire to reciprocate. So I'm straight.

I'm not sure what this makes me, other.than aware of my personal boundaries. I see no reason to label myself.

I do get frustrated though when it is assumed that I'm bi.cos I swing...

I get fed up with labels if I enjoy something I enjoy it no big deal"

I agree most with both these comments

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have explored this side and while I have thoroughly enjoyed a skilled woman playing with me I have mo desire to reciprocate. So I'm straight.

I'm not sure what this makes me, other.than aware of my personal boundaries. I see no reason to label myself.

I do get frustrated though when it is assumed that I'm bi.cos I swing...

I get fed up with labels if I enjoy something I enjoy it no big deal

I agree most with both these comments

Bi, lesbian or whatever you wanna call yourself is a choice thing but if you are only pretending to be something your not then it hurts other people. Especially if they go to meet you and you aren't what you say you are x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We had a similar problem. Met a couple with a bi fem, they had profile pics of her with women. When they met us she wouldn't touch me much and just acted weird like it was their first meet. Both of them were the same.

Suppose maybe they didn't fancy us or something. He didn't play with me much and they didn't really touch each other either, she just gave both blokes oral.

Made me feel really uncomfortable and put me off meeting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this something that is common? This is the first time I have experienced this or am I being to unreasonable? "

This could help explain why there seem to be an incredible amount of bi ladies on here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So often when I read threads like this I am left speechless. Women who only do things because their husbands want them to, men and women who do things behind their partner's backs, people who pretend to be what they are not.......there really are a lot of pathetic and/or contemptible people on the swingers' scene it seems and I am beginning to wonder whether it is for us because of this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well we are both straight an find it hard to find profiles of ppl that will admit to being the same maby if we put f bi then we would stand more chance of a meet as lets face it it is the woman who decides who as a cpl thay meet if a girl is realy straight then surly thay would want to meet straight couples after all put bi and you should know what will happen

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

I have been reading this thread with interest.

As part of a couple I do find that we get quite a few messages from other couples and single fems wanting to play,

then as the messages flow out it comes the line 'the girls can play while the guys sit and watch '

and then get very huffy when they are told that I (the male) am not a spectator or a drinks provider .

while we can play fem on fem it is in the flow of having fun all 4 of us together

Lots of the bi ladies seem to have the attitude that we should bow and scrape to there whim and be grateful to them for allowing us to play

I love the term pillow princess's as a lot do seem to think they really are

needless to say they don't get to play with that attitude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To the OP I had a similar experience where I joined a couple as a single bi fem and after a while it was obvious the lady was just playing along to please the guy and even pushed me off then went into a mardy huff!! Needless to say, I got dressed and made a sharp exit despite the protestations from the guy. It was an unpleasant experience that I am in no rush to repeat but lesson learnt.

To the poster above-if we get messages along the lines -the ladies can play while the guys watch-then they get told that I am nobody's performing monkey!

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

"To the OP I had a similar experience where I joined a couple as a single bi fem and after a while it was obvious the lady was just playing along to please the guy and even pushed me off then went into a mardy huff!! Needless to say, I got dressed and made a sharp exit despite the protestations from the guy. It was an unpleasant experience that I am in no rush to repeat but lesson learnt.

To the poster above-if we get messages along the lines -the ladies can play while the guys watch-then they get told that I am nobody's performing monkey!

Ms"

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By *Y MAN n MECouple
over a year ago

FIFE

"I class myself as Bi playfull in the right setting I wont meet couples as a single but will meet in club setting I am attracted to ladies but I do prefer giving than recieving have played with a few but always in a group situation dont think I could ply with ladies one on one as to me it is not enough and I still need a juicy cock to play with."

Couldn't have said it better myself

xxH

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So often when I read threads like this I am left speechless. Women who only do things because their husbands want them to, men and women who do things behind their partner's backs, people who pretend to be what they are not.......there really are a lot of pathetic and/or contemptible people on the swingers' scene it seems and I am beginning to wonder whether it is for us because of this."

So true, this woman makes it bad for the rest of the genuine bi curious ladies. As a couple we decided that this couple is a dud we know there are genuine people out there so don't loose heart it's just this woman was trying to keep her husband x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

To the poster above-if we get messages along the lines -the ladies can play while the guys watch-then they get told that I am nobody's performing monkey!

Ms"

Yes we tend to stay away when the profile says ladies can play and the gents can watch. My husband doenst see it fit to just watch he feels it's a bit pervy and rapey. He feels what's the point of watching and getting a nasty case of blue balls. No one should be subjected to perform like monkeys. Everyone should have the pleasure to enjoy each other there is no point going to meet someone and you can't do anything

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We had a similar problem. Met a couple with a bi fem, they had profile pics of her with women. When they met us she wouldn't touch me much and just acted weird like it was their first meet. Both of them were the same.

Suppose maybe they didn't fancy us or something. He didn't play with me much and they didn't really touch each other either, she just gave both blokes oral.

Made me feel really uncomfortable and put me off meeting.

There isn't anything wrong with you, that lady sound like the lady we met. It does make you question yourself. Ladies like her make me angry that they arent real with themselves and they don't realise the hurt they dish out with their lies. There are real bi ladies out there I'm one of them so don feel discouraged xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"well we are both straight an find it hard to find profiles of ppl that will admit to being the same maby if we put f bi then we would stand more chance of a meet as lets face it it is the woman who decides who as a cpl thay meet if a girl is realy straight then surly thay would want to meet straight couples after all put bi and you should know what will happen"

Some people aren't as honest, I'm glad you both are honest enough to admit your both straight instead of leading people down the wrong path so many people do it x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am bi CURIOUS so not having encountered anything but the male gender in my bed I am genuinely curious will I enjoy it? I bloody well hope so ! The only thing I perceive a problem is I like to receive so maybe I will go with the flow . How can u not be turned on when seeing the pleasure you give to someone. But there is a but my partner is into voyeurism so will not play unless I say so and that is my choice. I will perform and unless I enjoy it then am out the door end of. Now I understand why I've not had any luck. I am honest though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am not a performing seal I just want a diff sexual encounter and can t wait to experience it but also see the pleasure I can give in return. The look on his n her face should be a reward in itself.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I am bi CURIOUS so not having encountered anything but the male gender in my bed I am genuinely curious will I enjoy it? I bloody well hope so ! The only thing I perceive a problem is I like to receive so maybe I will go with the flow . How can u not be turned on when seeing the pleasure you give to someone. But there is a but my partner is into voyeurism so will not play unless I say so and that is my choice. I will perform and unless I enjoy it then am out the door end of. Now I understand why I've not had any luck. I am honest though

Seeing someone being pleasures is a good thing I don't despute that but this chick is was saying curious but didn't want to even try. Personally I hate pillow princesses. It's cool if you don't want to give back but there are people who will want something back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had so many crap experiences whilst playing as a bi single fem with couples, that im afraid i stopped meeting them.

Had a few 'pillow princesses' (loving that belles) but mainly just weird dynamics from the couples.

I felt it just boiled down to the fact that there are sadly a lot of couples swinging, who havent really talked about how they want to swing, how it makes them feel about eachother, and how it effects their relationship!!!!

It does make it a minefield for the people who end up meeting them!!

I think the forumites above, who mentioned they didnt stick around long, when it went a bit 'pete tong' have the best idea!!!

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over a year ago

"I am not a performing seal I just want a diff sexual encounter and can t wait to experience it but also see the pleasure I can give in return. The look on his n her face should be a reward in itself."

Nothing wrong with any of that. Sounds like you're quite happy to explain it to the right person too. I think it's best to be honest. No point going into it thinking it will be one way but they think something totally different. Hope you find someone.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I hope that this thread is a stern warning to ladies pretending to be bi to satisfy a partner. I hope that they will read this and not subject anyone to their already dysfunctional relationship. Even though we here for the sex but with the sex comes feelings. For someone to make someone feel bad by lying isn't right, especially when they are blatantly rejected.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well said! I also hope it provides some insight for couples and guys who bleat about finding it hard to meet single bi fems about why so many are reluctant to meet at the drop of a hat.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Well said! I also hope it provides some insight for couples and guys who bleat about finding it hard to meet single bi fems about why so many are reluctant to meet at the drop of a hat."

It's refreshing that there are people who agree with this post, maybe people have the same problem and feels that what they got is a common.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

Well, not sure what you would class us as! Innuendo is not Bi-curious because she has done it already.. She is not Bi cos she would prefer to play with men, but she does play with women if we are in a mix and we all feel right.. We term that the same as swingershaz...Bi-friendly!

Me on the other hand.. I don't think I am curious, but if something was to happen during a meet and another touched me or even played with me, it wouldn't be the end of the world, I may even recipricate... In a play situation that is going well, it could be a turn on for me and the girls!

I would say I am Bi-friendly too!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Well, not sure what you would class us as! Innuendo is not Bi-curious because she has done it already.. She is not Bi cos she would prefer to play with men, but she does play with women if we are in a mix and we all feel right.. We term that the same as swingershaz...Bi-friendly!

I would say I am Bi-friendly too!

What you wanna class yourself is a personal thing. Because to be honest I'm more like pan sexual which is like bi but I'm not ruling out any gender I could date or marry either becaus it's not the genitals i like its the person but this is when you get into heavy discussion on sexuality. There is the Kinsey report made back in the 40's or 50's this study was done on many people in a lot of years. Dr Kinsey had made a scale of 1-5 I being totally straight and 5 being totally gay. From what the study concludes that a large of people fall in the 2-4 section which falls into bisexuality. So everyone has a tendency at some point in life to do any of the options. On the other hand being dishonest and lying to people to meet them is another matter.

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over a year ago

I'm a bi fem and really enjoy playing with the ladies. I dont care if they recipocte or not. in fact i think i prefer a guy playing with me while i play with a lady.

I have in the past met girls one on one and thats brill fun. i've been to parties where the fem is "pretending" to be bi too and u know straight away and just leave them to it. they may be a bit scared or just enjoy kissing. i go with the flow and read the person.. take it slow or as fast as they seem to be able to take it...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm a bi fem and really enjoy playing with the ladies. I dont care if they recipocte or not. in fact i think i prefer a guy playing with me while i play with a lady.

With this lady I did take my sweet time with her and didn't force myself on to her that would just be wrong and also when she did try to play with me she butchered my parts. It's a good you have fun with ladies who play nicely. I didnt know she was just pretending till I had a frank discussion with her. Before we met she was totally curious then changed status to straight? So in a nutshell and some will agree with me on this pretending to be something your not hurts people feelings and it uncomfortable. Yes I do realise there are real bi ladies out there I have experienced a few. As for reciprocating there is a system it works with gay men and lesbians you have a top who gives, a versatile who does both and you have a bottom who just takes. I'm a versatile persons I didn't expect her to be fake when all they ever said was they were genuine another good buzz word.

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over a year ago

"What you wanna class yourself is a personal thing. Because to be honest I'm more like pan sexual which is like bi but I'm not ruling out any gender I could date or marry either becaus it's not the genitals i like its the person but this is when you get into heavy discussion on sexuality. There is the Kinsey report made back in the 40's or 50's this study was done on many people in a lot of years. Dr Kinsey had made a scale of 1-5 I being totally straight and 5 being totally gay. From what the study concludes that a large of people fall in the 2-4 section which falls into bisexuality. So everyone has a tendency at some point in life to do any of the options. On the other hand being dishonest and lying to people to meet them is another matter."

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"What you wanna class yourself is a personal thing."

I totally agree, but your OP is about people who say they are Bi when in fact they are not and perhaps not even curious! My post on this thread was to illustrate that people don't have to be Bi or even curious, they may just go with the flow like we do.

Yes, there are undoubtedly some (quite a few?) ladies who do it for their husbands and I am not entirely against that. After all, in all walks of life we do things to please others. What I don't agree with is those that are truly not happy with the situation and ruin, in this case, your evening!

I still say there should be a catagory called "Bi-Friendly". I know everyone one seems to jump on anyone who spouts labels, but we all use them day in and day out! It would also solve the problem I have because as a straight guy, I just go with the flow.. Not curious, not Bi! Bi-Friendly!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What you wanna class yourself is a personal thing.

As Kinsey found out there is a spectrum... Well technically I'm Pansexual but that's not a choice on most sexuality questionnaires so I have to brand myself as bi and when I do say I'm Pansexual a lot of people are adamant I'm bisexual also. I'm into people simple as but Bi is the closest and the easiest way to describe myself when bi sexuality means you love the genitals of the the persons it's not the genitals I love it's the person.

As for pleasing someone when you don't want too especially in a sexual situation like making your wife or husband do sexual things with someone is wrong. It's on the verge of some kind of abuse. FOR EXAMPLE: my husband requested me to get fisted by 5 different men and he was adamant I had to do it to keep him all I can say is I'm not ruining my baby maker and he can get lost! No woman or man should be subjected to that kind of thing

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By *un_JuiceCouple
over a year ago

Nr Chester

"I have been reading this thread with interest.

As part of a couple I do find that we get quite a few messages from other couples and single fems wanting to play,

then as the messages flow out it comes the line 'the girls can play while the guys sit and watch '

and then get very huffy when they

are told that I (the male) am not a spectator or a drinks provider .

while we can play fem on fem it is in the flow of having fun all 4 of us together

Lots of the bi ladies seem to have the attitude that we should bow and scrape to

there whim and be grateful to them for

allowing us to play

I love the term pillow princess's as a lot do seem to think they really are

needless to say they don't get to play with that attitude "

Exactly

It puts both of us off immediately

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"As for pleasing someone when you don't want too especially in a sexual situation like making your wife or husband do sexual things with someone is wrong. It's on the verge of some kind of abuse. FOR EXAMPLE: my husband requested me to get fisted by 5 different men and he was adamant I had to do it to keep him all I can say is I'm not ruining my baby maker and he can get lost! No woman or man should be subjected to that kind of thing "

I think your EXAMPLE is totally different to a little Bi fun! By pleaseing the husband or wife, I mean that they are prepared to do that little bit extra for them. And to call it abuse? Come on! If the woman decides to do it and is doing it for her husband, it is her choice!

It seems you read way too much and take it all as gospel. Those so called experts are not always right and whether it is Dr. Ruth or Kinsey, they won't push me around, I have a mind of my own!

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"I think your EXAMPLE is totally different to a little Bi fun! By pleaseing the husband or wife, I mean that they are prepared to do that little bit extra for them. And to call it abuse? Come on! If the woman decides to do it and is doing it for her husband, it is her choice!"

Abuse isn't always physical. Coercion is just as bad.

If someone threatens you with leaving the relationship because you won't do something that makes you feel uncomfortable, it is coercion, and should not be accepted.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

Abuse isn't always physical. Coercion is just as bad.

If someone threatens you with leaving the relationship because you won't do something that makes you feel uncomfortable, it is coercion, and should not be accepted."

But I never said that!

I said "If the woman decides to do it and is doing it for her husband, it is her choice!"

The operative word was "decides"! If the husband (or wife!) asks the partner to do something and they are not happy, fair enough. But if the partner then decides to try it, I can't see that it is coercion at all.. Of course no one should be forced, but if one partner lets the other get away with it, it is their own fault!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

All I was trying to convey was that people sometimes feel that they have to do things to keep someone like th lady we met. If she was strong enough to tell her husband to get lost with his suggestion then no one would have hurt feeling. If I was asked to do anything I didnt want like have sex with someone I didn't want to then I wouldn't do it. It's not so bad if it's bi fun. That bi fun could be tramatizing to ther person who is experiencing it. My example was just something to make people think.

As for Kinsey and Dr Ruth I was pointing out what studies have said we all have tendencies everyone has their own decisions and our own feelings. I respect people have there own choices etc.

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By *kyblue2681Woman
over a year ago

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I'm defo curious about this side of myself as i love a hard cock but for few yrs now I've wanted to play with a woman. and i don't mean just receive id like to try things both ways as i do think im bi as im very attracted to women and very often find myself fantasising about playing with their pussy

hopefully one day ill know for sure

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over a year ago

"I'm defo curious about this side of myself as i love a hard cock but for few yrs now I've wanted to play with a woman. and i don't mean just receive id like to try things both ways as i do think im bi as im very attracted to women and very often find myself fantasising about playing with their pussy

hopefully one day ill know for sure

Sounds like your bi embrace who you are and be proud of yourself! You should try it out I don't see it being an issue especially you are versatile enough to try it all. Good luck in finding the right woman for you xx

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over a year ago

Abuse isn't always physical. Coercion is just as bad.

If someone threatens you with leaving the relationship because you won't do something that makes you feel uncomfortable, it is coercion, and should not be accepted."

Spot on! That is what i was trying to get at he uses their marriage as something of a weapon. He will go else where or even leave if he doesn't get his way. It's sad for anyone to have that kind of pressure put on them

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