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By *arren the dogger OP   Man
over a year ago

willenhall

Hi guys I'm a 53 year old man weighing in at 16 stone. I've just had a Hba1c test and it was 107 . Is that a high result . Been like this for 6 years and various GPS have messed me about but no one can get my blood sugar down . I'm starting to get pins n needles in my toes and my local spec savers has now found a cataract in my eyes . Any help please ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m guessing your type 2?

Mine was 100 and I was given medicine right away to try and lower mine and told to go on a low carb diet. At my last test it was 87 which meant I had to go on insulin as my bloods where still high.

Have they not given medicine?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has your GP spoken to you about a low carb diet?

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

That is too high, when mine were around 60 my GP wasn't happy and was talking about putting me on more meds.

I'm not an expert but diabetes UK have a forums where people would be happy to help and be way more informed. Your GP should definitely have got this sorted by now though, it's not on.

With diabetes retinopathy is the thing you're usually trying to avoid in the eyes as it can make you blind, so don't worry about cataracts too much as a lot of people get them for all kinds of reasons.

Tingling in the hands and feet obviously isn't ideal either but again this might not be down to diabetes either. But still both of these things need sorting out.

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By *arren the dogger OP   Man
over a year ago

willenhall

Go has given me gliclasade on top of Metformin but still no joy .thanks for all your replies guys appreciate them all

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By *arren the dogger OP   Man
over a year ago

willenhall

Gp not go obviously

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

try Michael mosley book on diabetes, it's really good.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

What are you doing currently?

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Hi guys I'm a 53 year old man weighing in at 16 stone. I've just had a Hba1c test and it was 107 . Is that a high result . Been like this for 6 years and various GPS have messed me about but no one can get my blood sugar down . I'm starting to get pins n needles in my toes and my local spec savers has now found a cataract in my eyes . Any help please ?

"

Yes lose weight

Eat regular intervals

Eat more protein and fat compared to carb

Eat under 150 g of carbs and make sure non of them are refined sugars , go for low glycemic,

Eat more seeds and pulses more fiber

Drink more water , stop drinking alcohol

Or

Lose your legs xxxx

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I mean about your diabetes, not just now lol

Dr's can only do so much. You need to look at lifestyle changes etc as well.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"try Michael mosley book on diabetes, it's really good."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hope you get this under control.

It is a terrible disease and living with type 1 is horrendous.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Hope you get this under control.

It is a terrible disease and living with type 1 is horrendous.

"

Is it ?

Type one really really really is awfull

I treat type 2 as a gift

Treated correctly it should actually only improve a person's life and health

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

I got told I'm type 2 a week before Christmas, only one in my family with it ,low carb and no suger is easier said then done ,nearly every thing has hidden suger in it and I find a week before my period is due I have a hypo every day so I have to eat carbs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a Type 2 diabetic. Exercise is the key to it all. And low carb but don't fall into the trap of low carb diet as it can increase your cholesterol levels if following high diary intakes. Low fat and low sugar is equally as important. Eat sensibly with lots of vegetables and some fruit Try not to eat root veg as the carbs are higher. Join Diabetes UK and there are support groups online who you can chat to that will give lots of advice and support. Good luck. Check your feet regularly. I have neuropathy which is the pins and needles you feel and had a toe removed. Fighting infection on high sugar levels is more difficult. Charley x

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I got told I'm type 2 a week before Christmas, only one in my family with it ,low carb and no suger is easier said then done ,nearly every thing has hidden suger in it and I find a week before my period is due I have a hypo every day so I have to eat carbs."

I cook everything I eat , eliminates the hidden sugar issue

Eat more oats and fats period week

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By *hocko87Man
over a year ago

dublin

your doctor ain't listening to you man . I have diabetes and I'm grand . there is lots of different tabs and injections out there

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By *hocko87Man
over a year ago

dublin

glucavege is the main tablet and that will bring your sugar level down

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"Go has given me gliclasade on top of Metformin but still no joy .thanks for all your replies guys appreciate them all"

They can put you on gliclazide twice a day, that's what i'm on. As well as 2 other diabetes meds.

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By *ade and VanessaCouple
over a year ago

Central Scotland


"Hi guys I'm a 53 year old man weighing in at 16 stone. I've just had a Hba1c test and it was 107 . Is that a high result . Been like this for 6 years and various GPS have messed me about but no one can get my blood sugar down . I'm starting to get pins n needles in my toes and my local spec savers has now found a cataract in my eyes . Any help please ?

Yes lose weight

Eat regular intervals

Eat more protein and fat compared to carb

Eat under 150 g of carbs and make sure non of them are refined sugars , go for low glycemic,

Eat more seeds and pulses more fiber

Drink more water , stop drinking alcohol

Or

Lose your legs xxxx "

All of this. Not just legs - eyesight, kidneys, erectile function...

Hba1c should be closer to 48 or below.

V x

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By *dward_TeagueMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton

I was diagnosed as type 2 about 7 years ago. I was prescribed Metformin and didn’t make any lifestyle changes.

Then about 4 years ago I read an article that said the fastest growing operation performed on the NHS was amputations as a result of diabetes. It scared the life out of me so I did something about it.

I lost loads of weight and have now reversed the disease. I’m no longer on medication.

I still drink but I changed what I drink. I’m a keen cook so avoiding processed foods was easy.

Bear in mind it’s a disease caused by our individual lifestyles and so you have to make lifestyle changes to beat it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok I totally understand the situation you are in.

Mine was 102!

And my average daily sugar levels of 33!!

I've recently joined slimming world and I have completely stuck to plan. The first week even though I totally stuck to plan I didn't lose any weight but I didn't put any on, the second week stuck to plan completely again lost 2 1/2 pounds, today completely stuck to plan and I stayed the same.

However in just 3 weeks from completely changing my diet my blood sugars have gone down from around 33 to 9!!

Medication will definitely help but lifestyle change what is needed.

My doctor has ordered me that because my sugars was so out of control it will take a while for my body to adjust but then I should hopefully consistently start to lose weight.

I very rarely tell people personal things like this however I am going to stick to this and it could very well saved my life.

I hope this helps you in some way and I really hope you can get things under control.

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By *dward_TeagueMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton


"Ok I totally understand the situation you are in.

Mine was 102!

And my average daily sugar levels of 33!!

I've recently joined slimming world and I have completely stuck to plan. The first week even though I totally stuck to plan I didn't lose any weight but I didn't put any on, the second week stuck to plan completely again lost 2 1/2 pounds, today completely stuck to plan and I stayed the same.

However in just 3 weeks from completely changing my diet my blood sugars have gone down from around 33 to 9!!

Medication will definitely help but lifestyle change what is needed.

My doctor has ordered me that because my sugars was so out of control it will take a while for my body to adjust but then I should hopefully consistently start to lose weight.

I very rarely tell people personal things like this however I am going to stick to this and it could very well saved my life.

I hope this helps you in some way and I really hope you can get things under control. "

Well done Lornajo, keep it up

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By *cottish guy 555Man
over a year ago

London


"Hi guys I'm a 53 year old man weighing in at 16 stone. I've just had a Hba1c test and it was 107 . Is that a high result . Been like this for 6 years and various GPS have messed me about but no one can get my blood sugar down . I'm starting to get pins n needles in my toes and my local spec savers has now found a cataract in my eyes . Any help please ?

Yes lose weight

Eat regular intervals

Eat more protein and fat compared to carb

Eat under 150 g of carbs and make sure non of them are refined sugars , go for low glycemic,

Eat more seeds and pulses more fiber

Drink more water , stop drinking alcohol

Or

Lose your legs xxxx "

All very sound advice. Can I ask if you are diabetic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone has given fantastic advice but just be warned that because your levels are so high your body could really struggle with a drastic sudden change!

Definitely make changes and definitely make big ones but I would ask to speak to a nutritionist.

Also I think you need to change your doctor because my diabetes was neglected by myself but also by my GP for years I am now under a new GP and I'm already seeing fantastic results.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hope you get this under control.

It is a terrible disease and living with type 1 is horrendous.

Is it ?

Type one really really really is awfull

I treat type 2 as a gift

Treated correctly it should actually only improve a person's life and health "

I most certainly would not consider type 2 diabetes as a gift!

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

Dump carbs, now, all off them but watch the glic, you may want to stop it.

The people you want are Aseem Malhotra, The Diet Doctor, Ivor Cummings, Tim Noakes, Jennifer Unwin, Volek and Finney.

Any one of those will give you all the j go you need.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I was diagnosed as type 2 about 7 years ago. I was prescribed Metformin and didn’t make any lifestyle changes.

Then about 4 years ago I read an article that said the fastest growing operation performed on the NHS was amputations as a result of diabetes. It scared the life out of me so I did something about it.

I lost loads of weight and have now reversed the disease. I’m no longer on medication.

I still drink but I changed what I drink. I’m a keen cook so avoiding processed foods was easy.

Bear in mind it’s a disease caused by our individual lifestyles and so you have to make lifestyle changes to beat it."

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"Hope you get this under control.

It is a terrible disease and living with type 1 is horrendous.

Is it ?

Type one really really really is awfull

I treat type 2 as a gift

Treated correctly it should actually only improve a person's life and health

I most certainly would not consider type 2 diabetes as a gift! "

I do, it turned my life around for the better.

All diabetics do very well on a restricted carb diet, it known as the law of small numbers.

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By *ade and VanessaCouple
over a year ago

Central Scotland

Has anyone discussed hypo signs with you OP and what to do?

The signs won't be because you're hypo, it's your sugar levels dropping. Which is why it's a slower process do you're not constantly feeling dizzy, shakey or unwell. You should be aware that it can happen and why you should have some trained medical support.

V x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hope you get this under control.

It is a terrible disease and living with type 1 is horrendous.

Is it ?

Type one really really really is awfull

I treat type 2 as a gift

Treated correctly it should actually only improve a person's life and health

I most certainly would not consider type 2 diabetes as a gift!

I do, it turned my life around for the better.

All diabetics do very well on a restricted carb diet, it known as the law of small numbers. "

Not having diabetes is a gift I don't understand your logic.

and actually you are wrong as I was advised not to have a low-carb diet because when your levels of that high it needs to be done under medical supervision!

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

OP 107 is way too high, the target is 48 or below.

Your GP can't give you a magic pill to lower your hba1c levels - you have to make the effort to change your lifestyle too.

I was first diagnosed with type 2 diabetes 10 years ago and put on metformin. I changed my lifestyle through diet and exercise and was able to come off the tablets after about 9 months. I lost nearly 7 stone and have kept most of it off.

6 months ago my blood tests showed my levels had gone up from 49 to 59 and my GP and diabetes nurse wanted me to go back on the metformin. They agreed I could try and get my levels back down again without medication as I had slipped back into my old ways. I went back for my blood results last week and I've managed to get them down again. You can keep diabetes under control if you are willing to work at it.

You need to make urgent changes if you want to live a long and healthy life - nobody can do it for you!

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Hope you get this under control.

It is a terrible disease and living with type 1 is horrendous.

Is it ?

Type one really really really is awfull

I treat type 2 as a gift

Treated correctly it should actually only improve a person's life and health

I most certainly would not consider type 2 diabetes as a gift!

I do, it turned my life around for the better.

All diabetics do very well on a restricted carb diet, it known as the law of small numbers.

Not having diabetes is a gift I don't understand your logic.

and actually you are wrong as I was advised not to have a low-carb diet because when your levels of that high it needs to be done under medical supervision!"

You were advised wrong x

Type one is horrid

Type 2 sadly is a reflection in almost all cases (not all but a high percentage) of a lifestyle the body cannot cope with or sustain

It's a gift because it's a warning not death

It gives one the chance to change lifestyle death does not , nor it seems general health advice or telling humans lifestyle can cause death

It's a bit more persuasive thus a gift xxx

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By *Cocksucker84Man
over a year ago

newcastle

100 is very high. If you go through your GP stop immediately, they're clueless. If your local hospital has a diabetic unit go through the nurses and consultants there for advice. Your hba1c to avoid complications should ideally be under 52. Ask about nutrition classes and ask for a dietician referral as well. Type 1s have DAFNE. Not sure what type 2 classes are called but I know classes are available in some hospitals. I never see my GP for mine, half the time I'm complaining at the reception desk because they don't know the difference between insulin cartridges and insulin pens.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Hope you get this under control.

It is a terrible disease and living with type 1 is horrendous.

Is it ?

Type one really really really is awfull

I treat type 2 as a gift

Treated correctly it should actually only improve a person's life and health

I most certainly would not consider type 2 diabetes as a gift!

I do, it turned my life around for the better.

All diabetics do very well on a restricted carb diet, it known as the law of small numbers.

Not having diabetes is a gift I don't understand your logic.

and actually you are wrong as I was advised not to have a low-carb diet because when your levels of that high it needs to be done under medical supervision!

You were advised wrong x

Type one is horrid

Type 2 sadly is a reflection in almost all cases (not all but a high percentage) of a lifestyle the body cannot cope with or sustain

It's a gift because it's a warning not death

It gives one the chance to change lifestyle death does not , nor it seems general health advice or telling humans lifestyle can cause death

It's a bit more persuasive thus a gift xxx"

Too be clear no one is suggesting stop taking carbs , but the insulin you do produce can only remove so much from your blood

Exercise and diet change your muscles insulin sensitivity

Better sensitivity means blood sugar reduces more quickly and into the muscle

Slow release carbs give slow ahem, steady release of sugar thus preventing hyper conditions

You need no more than150 grams of carb a day

Glucose or high gi will flood the blood with more sugar than your insulin can remove ,

Good balanced diet

Slowly lose weight

Exercise to improve insulin sensitivity and good nutrient partitioning

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By *Cocksucker84Man
over a year ago

newcastle

Correction on hba1c numbers, it should ideally be below 48 for type 2s. And I wouldn't cut out all carbohydrate but a sensible discussion about how much to have each day should come into play. Tingling in hands and feet sounds like nerve damaged caused through neuropathy.

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By *Cocksucker84Man
over a year ago

newcastle


"Everyone has given fantastic advice but just be warned that because your levels are so high your body could really struggle with a drastic sudden change!

Definitely make changes and definitely make big ones but I would ask to speak to a nutritionist.

Also I think you need to change your doctor because my diabetes was neglected by myself but also by my GP for years I am now under a new GP and I'm already seeing fantastic results. "

The changes are a major thing where your body is concerned. I was diagnosed type 1 4 years ago. Because I avoided going to docs for six weeks after falling poorly (type 1 symptoms activate immediately) I was partially blind, rake thin, exhausted, cramping up and vomiting and massively thirsty all of the time. My hba1c at that time was 151!!! I had a year of being knackered, building my weight back up, having painful eye infections like stys but luckily no long-lasting damage. Within 6 months I had an hba1c of 45. It's a bit higher these days but not drastically so but think it's because I'm no longer producing any insulin myself. The body suffers real trauma with this disease.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"Hope you get this under control.

It is a terrible disease and living with type 1 is horrendous.

Is it ?

Type one really really really is awfull

I treat type 2 as a gift

Treated correctly it should actually only improve a person's life and health

I most certainly would not consider type 2 diabetes as a gift!

I do, it turned my life around for the better.

All diabetics do very well on a restricted carb diet, it known as the law of small numbers.

Not having diabetes is a gift I don't understand your logic.

and actually you are wrong as I was advised not to have a low-carb diet because when your levels of that high it needs to be done under medical supervision!"

Oh ok, do that then and carry on having high sugars. Or you could try doing the research yourself and discover the truth about the shocking advice given to diabetics that will slowly kill you.

For me diabetes is a gift. I lost a huge amount of weight and am fitter, healthier than I was in my 30’s. Ailments have gone, I hold non-diabetic blood sugars and my life expectancy and good health has massively improved.

Millions of people all over the world restrict carbs with amazing, healing effects. All carbs turn into sugar and sugar is poison to us.

Find out about what T2 is but to start with I’ll explain that your receptors are shot so your pancreas has to churn out ever increasing amounts of insulin to cope. The more carbs you eat, the higher your numbers and the more insulin you produce but the receptors that use it are broken so your BS go up and up and up...

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"Correction on hba1c numbers, it should ideally be below 48 for type 2s. And I wouldn't cut out all carbohydrate but a sensible discussion about how much to have each day should come into play. Tingling in hands and feet sounds like nerve damaged caused through neuropathy. "

Diabetics not on insulin can’t cover what they eat with injecting and an HbA1c in the 40’s is way too high.

Carbs are not an essential nutrient.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"Hope you get this under control.

It is a terrible disease and living with type 1 is horrendous.

Is it ?

Type one really really really is awfull

I treat type 2 as a gift

Treated correctly it should actually only improve a person's life and health

I most certainly would not consider type 2 diabetes as a gift!

I do, it turned my life around for the better.

All diabetics do very well on a restricted carb diet, it known as the law of small numbers.

Not having diabetes is a gift I don't understand your logic.

and actually you are wrong as I was advised not to have a low-carb diet because when your levels of that high it needs to be done under medical supervision!

You were advised wrong x

Type one is horrid

Type 2 sadly is a reflection in almost all cases (not all but a high percentage) of a lifestyle the body cannot cope with or sustain

It's a gift because it's a warning not death

It gives one the chance to change lifestyle death does not , nor it seems general health advice or telling humans lifestyle can cause death

It's a bit more persuasive thus a gift xxx

Too be clear no one is suggesting stop taking carbs , but the insulin you do produce can only remove so much from your blood

Exercise and diet change your muscles insulin sensitivity

Better sensitivity means blood sugar reduces more quickly and into the muscle

Slow release carbs give slow ahem, steady release of sugar thus preventing hyper conditions

You need no more than150 grams of carb a day

Glucose or high gi will flood the blood with more sugar than your insulin can remove ,

Good balanced diet

Slowly lose weight

Exercise to improve insulin sensitivity and good nutrient partitioning "

150g a day! That will have complications continuing. Without testing, it’s a bit moot to fix a level anyway, until you know what two slices of toast does, stop eating it.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I really need to get mine back under control! I know that following topsy's advice and reading up on various forums etc my type 2 got to within 'normal' range but sadly I haven't stuck to it.

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By *arren the dogger OP   Man
over a year ago

willenhall

Thanks guys for the help . My gp practice is useless so I'm gonna ask a few questions if I may ......

1. Can nerve damage in feet improve / be fixed when sugars are under control ?

2. I'm so knackered all the time . Is this linked to high sugars ?

3. The biggy....Viagra and Cialis and one other pill don't work on me .Is my sex life over ? I've even tried things off the internet.

I'm just pissed off with all this tbh as and ready to give up.

Again thanks for all your help guys.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Far too high. To be honest diet and lifestyle is the answer, Its your diabetes no one elses.

I was diagnosed following a heart attack nearly 3yrs ago. I was on insulin and pills. I started walking more, I got a dog, cut down on the alcohol, and stress.

I am no longer on insulin and now minimal meds.

Good luck

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Oh and beware sugar substitutes, some of them can raise insulin and glucose, disrupt the gut and cause weight gain.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Thanks guys for the help . My gp practice is useless so I'm gonna ask a few questions if I may ......

1. Can nerve damage in feet improve / be fixed when sugars are under control ?

2. I'm so knackered all the time . Is this linked to high sugars ?

3. The biggy....Viagra and Cialis and one other pill don't work on me .Is my sex life over ? I've even tried things off the internet.

I'm just pissed off with all this tbh as and ready to give up.

Again thanks for all your help guys."

All very good questions to ask but I ask again.... What are YOU doing to change Your life (yes I know I posted above that I'm a bit shit lol)

If you think your GP is useless then do your own research. A lot of diabetic clinics now advocate a low carb diet and are moving away from the traditional 'healthy' plate.

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By *rsIdiotWoman
over a year ago

Bedworth

If you get the bg under control it should help with the neuropathy. However, neuropathy can be permanent if the bg is consistently high for too long. Along with getting the bg under control, vitamin b12 will help with neuropathy too. Carbs need reducing significantly and will make a huge difference to your bg. As for the cataract, don’t worry about that, everyone will eventually get them as they age if they live long enough!

Op I thought I should add that I’m NOT diabetic. However one of my feline companions is. Since her diagnosis after almost losing her to diabetic ketoacidosis in June last year I have done an incredible amount of research and learning about the disease. I suggest that you do the same. Become what the doctors call an expert patient. Make their jobs easier and your quality of life better

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By *rsIdiotWoman
over a year ago

Bedworth


"Thanks guys for the help . My gp practice is useless so I'm gonna ask a few questions if I may ......

1. Can nerve damage in feet improve / be fixed when sugars are under control ?

2. I'm so knackered all the time . Is this linked to high sugars ?

3. The biggy....Viagra and Cialis and one other pill don't work on me .Is my sex life over ? I've even tried things off the internet.

I'm just pissed off with all this tbh as and ready to give up.

Again thanks for all your help guys."

1. Yes. Vitamin b12 can help neuropathy if bg is under control. But left too long it can be permanent.

2. Yes. You’re feeling shitty because the bg is out of control.

3. Sorry I have no idea about this one

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By *arren the dogger OP   Man
over a year ago

willenhall

What is a low carb diet ? No bread. no beer. No fried food .

Seems all I can eat is salad!! Can't even eat fruit cos it's got sugars in it ? I am in building trade and tbh I need something to stop me feeling so tired.

I'm getting excercise by running up n down ladders all day . Please don't say join a gym cos when I walk in at 7pm then cook my tea I just collapse and sleep in the chair.! Too tired for anything else.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"What is a low carb diet ? No bread. no beer. No fried food .

Seems all I can eat is salad!! Can't even eat fruit cos it's got sugars in it ? I am in building trade and tbh I need something to stop me feeling so tired.

I'm getting excercise by running up n down ladders all day . Please don't say join a gym cos when I walk in at 7pm then cook my tea I just collapse and sleep in the chair.! Too tired for anything else.

Do some research

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By *rsIdiotWoman
over a year ago

Bedworth


"What is a low carb diet ? No bread. no beer. No fried food .

Seems all I can eat is salad!! Can't even eat fruit cos it's got sugars in it ? I am in building trade and tbh I need something to stop me feeling so tired.

I'm getting excercise by running up n down ladders all day . Please don't say join a gym cos when I walk in at 7pm then cook my tea I just collapse and sleep in the chair.! Too tired for anything else.

"

Op there is no magic pill for diabetes! If you want to improve your health it’s all down to you. You HAVE to make lifestyle changes, if that means cutting out bread, pasta, potatoes etc then so be it! If you don’t, your condition will not improve, it will get worse! Your neuropathy will get worse, you will be in danger of losing your legs and you may go blind from retinopathy. But hey, the choice is yours

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Hope you get this under control.

It is a terrible disease and living with type 1 is horrendous.

Is it ?

Type one really really really is awfull

I treat type 2 as a gift

Treated correctly it should actually only improve a person's life and health

I most certainly would not consider type 2 diabetes as a gift!

I do, it turned my life around for the better.

All diabetics do very well on a restricted carb diet, it known as the law of small numbers.

Not having diabetes is a gift I don't understand your logic.

and actually you are wrong as I was advised not to have a low-carb diet because when your levels of that high it needs to be done under medical supervision!

You were advised wrong x

Type one is horrid

Type 2 sadly is a reflection in almost all cases (not all but a high percentage) of a lifestyle the body cannot cope with or sustain

It's a gift because it's a warning not death

It gives one the chance to change lifestyle death does not , nor it seems general health advice or telling humans lifestyle can cause death

It's a bit more persuasive thus a gift xxx

Too be clear no one is suggesting stop taking carbs , but the insulin you do produce can only remove so much from your blood

Exercise and diet change your muscles insulin sensitivity

Better sensitivity means blood sugar reduces more quickly and into the muscle

Slow release carbs give slow ahem, steady release of sugar thus preventing hyper conditions

You need no more than150 grams of carb a day

Glucose or high gi will flood the blood with more sugar than your insulin can remove ,

Good balanced diet

Slowly lose weight

Exercise to improve insulin sensitivity and good nutrient partitioning

150g a day! That will have complications continuing. Without testing, it’s a bit moot to fix a level anyway, until you know what two slices of toast does, stop eating it. "

No that will not have complications

150 g carb = 600 cals

150 g pro = 600 cals

80 g good fat = 750 cals

Perfect balance

The average human burns 3 to 5 hundred cals of glucose as fuel daily the rest can come from the other macros

As for quantities

Root veg are fine

900 g potato = 150 g carb

2.5 kg carrots = 150 g carb

2.5 kg celeriac = 150 carb

Pulses on average

600 g = 150 g carb

Compared to

250 grams bread = 150 carb

Lifestyle and diet change

Eating plenty of low glycolic carb high fiber and good fats and protein is easy

Just avoid human made carbs whenever possible

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By *r Appreciator.Man
over a year ago

Bedfordshire.

Type1 here.

Get referred to the diabetic health care team at the hospital. As soon as possible.

A swinging site isn’t really the best place to get advice on a potentially life changing illness. Ffs.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"Type1 here.

Get referred to the diabetic health care team at the hospital. As soon as possible.

A swinging site isn’t really the best place to get advice on a potentially life changing illness. Ffs. "

I dunno he has had some good advise.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Advice

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By *onnie And Clyde9070Couple
over a year ago

Leeds


"Hope you get this under control.

It is a terrible disease and living with type 1 is horrendous.

"

"Disease"? Since when has diabetes been a disease? Diabetes is a chronic long term medical condition. It can't be passed on or caught from someone else.

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By *r Appreciator.Man
over a year ago

Bedfordshire.

From people who don’t have any medical information on him.

Come off it.

Every diabetic is different and reacts differently to medication. Food, exercise and so forth.

Whats his blood pressure?

Whats his kidney function like,

is he celiac.

Mental illness. Hypo awareness

body mass.

Cholesterol.

I could go on

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"From people who don’t have any medical information on him.

Come off it.

Every diabetic is different and reacts differently to medication. Food, exercise and so forth.

Whats his blood pressure?

Whats his kidney function like,

is he celiac.

Mental illness. Hypo awareness

body mass.

Cholesterol.

I could go on"

The general advice about diet, excercise and changing lifestyle applies across the board with Type 2 diabetes.

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By *r Appreciator.Man
over a year ago

Bedfordshire.

Blood tests to determine what he actually has would be. A start

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By *r Appreciator.Man
over a year ago

Bedfordshire.

Diet, exercise and lifestyle changes is offered out to everyone at his age. See a professional!!!

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By *uck427Man
over a year ago

wales

Bread yes brown one or two slices beer a pills one as most of the sugar is turned in to alcohol beware of diet meals and snacks they may say less fat but high in sugars if you drink tea or coffee and take sugar cut it down a bit at a time saves you going cold turkey a air fryer helps butter not Marge and smaller portions little and often and your employer can't tell you off if you have a break to eat something as long as you tell them so my day is slice of toast 1 egg on top and beans that sets you up for dinner a chicken salad then for tea oven chips could be chicken or fish or sausage bacon and veg or salad I was a bugger I loved pop I'd drink a case a night if I could I was 22 stone last year and a 50 waist it took me a month to adjust to no sugar squish and my diet I'm now 14 stone a 34 to 36 waist and dropped my sugar from 150 to 79 and falling I tried to cut everything out right away but I turned in to a monster but a bit at a time for you to adjust works I get to keep my lorry licence and I'm not going blind in the left eye yey

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By *Cocksucker84Man
over a year ago

newcastle

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By *Cocksucker84Man
over a year ago

newcastle


"Correction on hba1c numbers, it should ideally be below 48 for type 2s. And I wouldn't cut out all carbohydrate but a sensible discussion about how much to have each day should come into play. Tingling in hands and feet sounds like nerve damaged caused through neuropathy.

Diabetics not on insulin can’t cover what they eat with injecting and an HbA1c in the 40’s is way too high.

Carbs are not an essential nutrient. "

You can't expect someone who has an hba1c of 107 to just cut out carbohydrate in a flash. Also, 48 is what is recommended by the NHS and most diabetic specialists so it's amazing you know more than they do. Also, in areas like the states where they cut carbs completely in my experience it's because they cannot afford medication that they need to regulate the illness. You're saying sugar is poison and to cut all carbs- fruit is carbohydrate. I hope this bloke sees a professional who knows what they're talking about.

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By *arren the dogger OP   Man
over a year ago

willenhall

This advice has been so helpful to me .

It's more than I have ever had from my doc.

Many thanks to you all.

Even the people giving me a bollicking has helped .

Thanks to you all.

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling


"Hi guys I'm a 53 year old man weighing in at 16 stone. I've just had a Hba1c test and it was 107 . Is that a high result . Been like this for 6 years and various GPS have messed me about but no one can get my blood sugar down . I'm starting to get pins n needles in my toes and my local spec savers has now found a cataract in my eyes . Any help please ?

"

That is very high result, nearly double what it should be. Ask for referral to community diabetic nurse specialist team and seriously look at your diet

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By *cottish guy 555Man
over a year ago

London

Unless you are living with it, you don't know. No matter what you read, what you have heard or what you've been taught.

It goes beyond the physical symptoms.

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By *Cocksucker84Man
over a year ago

newcastle


"This advice has been so helpful to me .

It's more than I have ever had from my doc.

Many thanks to you all.

Even the people giving me a bollicking has helped .

Thanks to you all.

"

I totally agree with those who have said unless you live with it you have no idea. It really is worth trying to get as much help and guidance from the diabetic team at your local hospital rather than your GP though. People's bodies react differently to this condition. It isn't always cut and dry

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"Diet, exercise and lifestyle changes is offered out to everyone at his age. See a professional!!! "

I am a professional ta...I work as diabetes specialist nurse

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By *r Appreciator.Man
over a year ago

Bedfordshire.

So you would agree that he really should go and see one??

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"So you would agree that he really should go and see one?? "

Absolutely, no question. A specialist team is usually the best way forward. He may need the GP to refer.

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By *r Appreciator.Man
over a year ago

Bedfordshire.

He said the gp won’t refer him, I can’t believe that.

I suggested he goes to the diabetes department at the hospital with his results and gets an appointment with either a dsn or consultant.

I personally would use this forum to try and get medical advice even if some of the forumites are in that field. But maybe that’s just me.

I’ve offered my opinion and wished him luck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hope you get this under control.

It is a terrible disease and living with type 1 is horrendous.

Is it ?

Type one really really really is awfull

I treat type 2 as a gift

Treated correctly it should actually only improve a person's life and health

I most certainly would not consider type 2 diabetes as a gift!

I do, it turned my life around for the better.

All diabetics do very well on a restricted carb diet, it known as the law of small numbers.

Not having diabetes is a gift I don't understand your logic.

and actually you are wrong as I was advised not to have a low-carb diet because when your levels of that high it needs to be done under medical supervision!

You were advised wrong x

Type one is horrid

Type 2 sadly is a reflection in almost all cases (not all but a high percentage) of a lifestyle the body cannot cope with or sustain

It's a gift because it's a warning not death

It gives one the chance to change lifestyle death does not , nor it seems general health advice or telling humans lifestyle can cause death

It's a bit more persuasive thus a gift xxx"

It is not useful or helpful for you to tell me that i have been advised wrongly!

My sugars have come down to an acceptable level so I'd like you to explain how that was wrong advice and also what works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another.

This is exactly why I have said that yes a lifestyle change will definitely help but the best thing to do is to seek professional specialist help as they can advise on his individual case.

Cutting out carbs suddenly can cause problems in itself so it needs to be done under medical supervision that is all I have said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Go has given me gliclasade on top of Metformin but still no joy .thanks for all your replies guys appreciate them all"

Same here. They've added another medication now to get it down. Low carbohydrates will help but may not be enough. I've been referred to hospital my gp didn't know enough

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"your doctor ain't listening to you man . I have diabetes and I'm grand . there is lots of different tabs and injections out there "

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By *r Appreciator.Man
over a year ago

Bedfordshire.


"He said the gp won’t refer him, I can’t believe that.

I suggested he goes to the diabetes department at the hospital with his results and gets an appointment with either a dsn or consultant.

I personally would use this forum to try and get medical advice even if some of the forumites are in that field. But maybe that’s just me.

I’ve offered my opinion and wished him luck. :-

)"

*wouldn’t.

Ffs

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By *amelhunterMan
over a year ago

newcastle

There is no easy fix.

Lifestyle changes have to be made. Only you can do that. Help and advice is out there, but only you can affect what goes into your body.

And its not going to happen overnight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was diagnosed as type 2 about 7 years ago. I was prescribed Metformin and didn’t make any lifestyle changes.

Then about 4 years ago I read an article that said the fastest growing operation performed on the NHS was amputations as a result of diabetes. It scared the life out of me so I did something about it.

I lost loads of weight and have now reversed the disease. I’m no longer on medication.

I still drink but I changed what I drink. I’m a keen cook so avoiding processed foods was easy.

Bear in mind it’s a disease caused by our individual lifestyles and so you have to make lifestyle changes to beat it."

It is not caused by individual lifestyles it's malfunction of the pancreas often when you get older it's becoming a wrong thing to blame people for having type2 and we don't need this attitude it doesn't help

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"I was diagnosed as type 2 about 7 years ago. I was prescribed Metformin and didn’t make any lifestyle changes.

Then about 4 years ago I read an article that said the fastest growing operation performed on the NHS was amputations as a result of diabetes. It scared the life out of me so I did something about it.

I lost loads of weight and have now reversed the disease. I’m no longer on medication.

I still drink but I changed what I drink. I’m a keen cook so avoiding processed foods was easy.

Bear in mind it’s a disease caused by our individual lifestyles and so you have to make lifestyle changes to beat it.

It is not caused by individual lifestyles it's malfunction of the pancreas often when you get older it's becoming a wrong thing to blame people for having type2 and we don't need this attitude it doesn't help "

The facts are with Type 2, you can reduce your blood sugars by lifestyle changes.

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By *entleman55Man
over a year ago

S’th West Mc/r

Hi OP, getting to the point you are at is a scary place, I’ve been there, started at 110 5 years ago. I’ve been on a trial at my local hospital and have reduced my Hba1c to 31.

It’s not easy but the advice on this thread is mainly very good.

I went on a 800 cal per day diet of shakes and veg for 8 weeks I lost 15kg in that time. The diet has to be controlled by a dietician.

Dr Michael Moseley has a book called the blood sugar diet it’s very good.

Please feel free to PM me in this thread for anymore advice.

It can be reversed !!!

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By *rince Charming 69Man
over a year ago

Loughborough

Accept responsibility for your own health and well being.

Carry a small tupperware box filled with dried fruit and nuts to have mini snacks.

And join a dance class near you!

Eat less & move more

What could be simpler to understand?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi OP, getting to the point you are at is a scary place, I’ve been there, started at 110 5 years ago. I’ve been on a trial at my local hospital and have reduced my Hba1c to 31.

It’s not easy but the advice on this thread is mainly very good.

I went on a 800 cal per day diet of shakes and veg for 8 weeks I lost 15kg in that time. The diet has to be controlled by a dietician.

Dr Michael Moseley has a book called the blood sugar diet it’s very good.

Please feel free to PM me in this thread for anymore advice.

It can be reversed !!!"

That’s the Newcastle diet, heard brilliant things about that.

Nestle optima shakes isn’t it?

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Accept responsibility for your own health and well being.

Carry a small tupperware box filled with dried fruit and nuts to have mini snacks.

And join a dance class near you!

Eat less & move more

What could be simpler to understand? "

Dried fruit are way too high in sugar, stick to the nuts!

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By *ade and VanessaCouple
over a year ago

Central Scotland


"He said the gp won’t refer him, I can’t believe that.

I suggested he goes to the diabetes department at the hospital with his results and gets an appointment with either a dsn or consultant.

I personally would use this forum to try and get medical advice even if some of the forumites are in that field. But maybe that’s just me.

I’ve offered my opinion and wished him luck. "

As a type 2 he needs the referal. Only type 1s and the derivatives of (lada/mody etc) are automatically entitled to consultant lead care. The hospital will send him back to the gp. May vary over health boards down south more than up here though.

For the person saying a hba1c in the 40s is far too high, are you using the old system of aiming for 6% etc? It's a different scale.

V x

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

I'm borderline, and the nurse told me to view sugar as rat poison as it will kill you as surely as rat poison will kill rats.

I've got a ridiculous sweet tooth but thinking of sugar as poison rather than a treat is helping me say no.

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet


"Accept responsibility for your own health and well being.

Carry a small tupperware box filled with dried fruit and nuts to have mini snacks.

And join a dance class near you!

Eat less & move more

What could be simpler to understand? "

Patronising much?

Also the "advice" about dried fruit is incorrect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Accept responsibility for your own health and well being.

Carry a small tupperware box filled with dried fruit and nuts to have mini snacks.

And join a dance class near you!

Eat less & move more

What could be simpler to understand?

Patronising much?

Also the "advice" about dried fruit is incorrect."

Join a dance class, nah! Swinging is the best exercise you can get.

If you can get it regularly.

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By *arren the dogger OP   Man
over a year ago

willenhall

I have rang 3 local hospitals and all need a referral from my gp

Maybe I should ring up and claim assylum then I will get all the best medical treatment that's available !!!.

Yet again thanks to you all .

My gp can't sort but won't refer as it costs the practice money .

I'm bloody fed up of it all tbh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

dr surgery's and diabetic care is crap compared to hospital diabetic care ... my hubs is type one but was wrongly told type 2 until he went to hospital with heart problems and they found out...

its no good asking for help on a swinging site as you'll get so many different and many wrong replys..

but if you cant get your drs to help you then you must help your self diabetic uk has a fantastic site on that site there is a forum full of first hand knowledge that forum alone help my hubs more that any one of the diabetic specialist go and have a peek look at all the different diets and see what one suits you ..and i bet your blood sugar's will slowly drop..

it can be hell if you leave it and do nothing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have rang 3 local hospitals and all need a referral from my gp

Maybe I should ring up and claim assylum then I will get all the best medical treatment that's available !!!.

Yet again thanks to you all .

My gp can't sort but won't refer as it costs the practice money .

I'm bloody fed up of it all tbh

"

Change GP immediately your current one is no good for your health. Once with new GP demand referral to hospital. Like you I was on Metformin and Gliclazide over a period of many years my diabetes has deteriorated I was referred to hospital and I am now on Insulin as well as Metformin and Gliclazide My hb1ac is now in the mid 40's. As other people here have stated diet and exercise is also important. Good luck with it all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think many of the above posters have spelled out what needs to be done.

At 6' tall you really need to aim to weight about 13 stone. Some people a lucky, they can get away with being heavier, others not.

Bottom line:

3 sensible meals per day.

Your main drinks should be water.

Don't over due the beer and junk food.

Exercise, even if only walking for 30 mins a day.

lose three stone.

If you can achieve the above with a bit of discipline, I would be willing to bet that after a year or so, your diabetic risk would be virtually eliminated, assuming we are talking type 2 here.

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By *entleman55Man
over a year ago

S’th West Mc/r


"Hi OP, getting to the point you are at is a scary place, I’ve been there, started at 110 5 years ago. I’ve been on a trial at my local hospital and have reduced my Hba1c to 31.

It’s not easy but the advice on this thread is mainly very good.

I went on a 800 cal per day diet of shakes and veg for 8 weeks I lost 15kg in that time. The diet has to be controlled by a dietician.

Dr Michael Moseley has a book called the blood sugar diet it’s very good.

Please feel free to PM me in this thread for anymore advice.

It can be reversed !!!

That’s the Newcastle diet, heard brilliant things about that.

Yes it’s like the Newcastle diet and it’s the way the NHS is going the product is Optifast

Nestle optima shakes isn’t it? "

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By *jEuphoriaCouple
over a year ago

north kent


"Hi guys I'm a 53 year old man weighing in at 16 stone. I've just had a Hba1c test and it was 107 . Is that a high result . Been like this for 6 years and various GPS have messed me about but no one can get my blood sugar down . I'm starting to get pins n needles in my toes and my local spec savers has now found a cataract in my eyes . Any help please ?

"

To get your blood sugar down, you need to cut out all carbs. Surely you should have been told this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was diagnosed 3 years ago.

I lost 3 stone by mainly cutting out potatoes, white bread, white rice and white pasta.

My figure has dropped to 41 for the last 2 years and they're taking me off the list.

Make the change in your lifestyle. It's worth it.

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln

Low carb for sure. So many success stories out there.

I’m an advocate for a charity who promotes real food low carb and am starting to specialise in diabetes so feel free to ask for any info (as it’s unlikely you’ll get it from the majority of doctors)

TB

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln


"

To get your blood sugar down, you need to cut out all carbs. Surely you should have been told this. "

Not something that is being told to people as it’s outside the ‘mainstream’ advice which in my mind is criminal, unethical and downright disgusting.

TB

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Low carb for sure. So many success stories out there.

I’m an advocate for a charity who promotes real food low carb and am starting to specialise in diabetes so feel free to ask for any info (as it’s unlikely you’ll get it from the majority of doctors)

TB"

Brilliant

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln


"I am a Type 2 diabetic. Exercise is the key to it all. And low carb but don't fall into the trap of low carb diet as it can increase your cholesterol levels if following high diary intakes. Low fat and low sugar is equally as important. Eat sensibly with lots of vegetables and some fruit Try not to eat root veg as the carbs are higher. Join Diabetes UK and there are support groups online who you can chat to that will give lots of advice and support. Good luck. Check your feet regularly. I have neuropathy which is the pins and needles you feel and had a toe removed. Fighting infection on high sugar levels is more difficult. Charley x"

Sorry but have to disagree with elements of that. Fat is fine, low carb low fat isn’t going to be any fun at all and there’s no need. Cholesterol isn’t the enemy we’ve been told, look it up for some more modern thinking.

If you’re wanting a support group, choose diabetes dot co dot uk instead as they are actually open to alternative thinking and have a great low carb program.

I had neuropathy in the past (not Diabetes related) and got rid of it through eating better and cutting carbs.

T2 can be reversed (obv not 100% for everyone) but you have to put the effort in.

TB

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nurse .....

Right try Michael Moseley 8 wk diabetic diet. Reduces hbaic.. basically reduce carbs.. hard to begin with but results amazing

Educate yourself

Get on to metformin if you are allowed and aim for maximum tolerated dose. Can always reduce dose once better controlled.

Join diabetes .uk. org

See your practice nurse regular. Remember you eat it.. you need to burn it.. use the carbs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi guys I'm a 53 year old man weighing in at 16 stone. I've just had a Hba1c test and it was 107 . Is that a high result . Been like this for 6 years and various GPS have messed me about but no one can get my blood sugar down . I'm starting to get pins n needles in my toes and my local spec savers has now found a cataract in my eyes . Any help please ?

"

It's YOUR blood sugar.. no one else's. YOU need to take control of it. Educate yourself on reduced carb lifestyle. Cut out alcohol til settled. Exercise.

Metformin should be on maximum dose 1g bd.

Glic... it's ok as a drug but only reduces post meal blood sugars to not effective long term.

Better ask for a "glyptin" form of medication.better as some cardio protection.

See your practice nurse.

Go back to basics understand how diet and exercise effects blood sugar.worl on lifestyle change before the lifestyle changes you

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By *ifty grades of shadyCouple
over a year ago

Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight


"I am a Type 2 diabetic. Exercise is the key to it all. And low carb but don't fall into the trap of low carb diet as it can increase your cholesterol levels if following high diary intakes. Low fat and low sugar is equally as important. Eat sensibly with lots of vegetables and some fruit Try not to eat root veg as the carbs are higher. Join Diabetes UK and there are support groups online who you can chat to that will give lots of advice and support. Good luck. Check your feet regularly. I have neuropathy which is the pins and needles you feel and had a toe removed. Fighting infection on high sugar levels is more difficult. Charley x"

Brilliant advice, the only way your going to get those levels down is to be on the hypo side of your monitor reading, currently your in the hyper range.

Speak with your G P and see if they have a gym partnership with possibly a local leisure centre.

We are lucky in that our has one with our local council facility and basically it gives four months half price, and it should be enough to significantly reduce your levels.

It should also get you developing good exercise regime and maybe taking it on post gp involvement. Good luck.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"

To get your blood sugar down, you need to cut out all carbs. Surely you should have been told this.

Not something that is being told to people as it’s outside the ‘mainstream’ advice which in my mind is criminal, unethical and downright disgusting.

TB"

Yes it is, I've been banging on about it for about 15 years now, and they're still telling diabetics to eat bread and baked potatoes!

Is your charity affiliated to the website you mention - I'd be interested??

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By *oveleylegsMan
over a year ago

manchester


"try Michael mosley book on diabetes, it's really good."

Yep, gets a load of good publicity and the book is only £4 in ASDA

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

To get your blood sugar down, you need to cut out all carbs. Surely you should have been told this.

Not something that is being told to people as it’s outside the ‘mainstream’ advice which in my mind is criminal, unethical and downright disgusting.

TB

Yes it is, I've been banging on about it for about 15 years now, and they're still telling diabetics to eat bread and baked potatoes!

Is your charity affiliated to the website you mention - I'd be interested??"

The majority of medical professionals will now say to cut down on the amount of carbs but not cut them out.

The reason for this is if you cut out carbs completely, yes your sugars will come down dramatically but then you risk the opposite happening and then becoming too low which is just as dangerous.

It's like with everything it's never a good idea to completely cut something out but definitely to have everything in moderation

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln


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To get your blood sugar down, you need to cut out all carbs. Surely you should have been told this.

Not something that is being told to people as it’s outside the ‘mainstream’ advice which in my mind is criminal, unethical and downright disgusting.

TB

Yes it is, I've been banging on about it for about 15 years now, and they're still telling diabetics to eat bread and baked potatoes!

Is your charity affiliated to the website you mention - I'd be interested??

The majority of medical professionals will now say to cut down on the amount of carbs but not cut them out.

The reason for this is if you cut out carbs completely, yes your sugars will come down dramatically but then you risk the opposite happening and then becoming too low which is just as dangerous.

It's like with everything it's never a good idea to completely cut something out but definitely to have everything in moderation "

Only if you want to be ‘moderately diabetic’ though!

If you’re on medication then you’ll likely need monitoring, but if not, then the kind of low carb that most people tend to do should be perfectly fine to just keep it at a nice lower but stable level.

TB

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln


"

To get your blood sugar down, you need to cut out all carbs. Surely you should have been told this.

Not something that is being told to people as it’s outside the ‘mainstream’ advice which in my mind is criminal, unethical and downright disgusting.

TB

Yes it is, I've been banging on about it for about 15 years now, and they're still telling diabetics to eat bread and baked potatoes!

Is your charity affiliated to the website you mention - I'd be interested??"

It’s the Public Health Collaboration, not affiliated to anyone but recognise which sites are good and which are not!

TB

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Christ almighty. Some of these stories are giving me palpitations. #Nurseprobs

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Christ almighty. Some of these stories are giving me palpitations. #Nurseprobs"

I'm not a medical professional, but I think for something this serious, this is a bad place to get medical advice. Hell, I try to live by "don't get medical advice online".

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln


"Christ almighty. Some of these stories are giving me palpitations. #Nurseprobs

I'm not a medical professional, but I think for something this serious, this is a bad place to get medical advice. Hell, I try to live by "don't get medical advice online". "

Sure, but the point is that the vast majority of health professionals won’t give you any kind of low carb advice as they just haven’t looked at the evidence of it (of which there is lots) so it’s no wonder that people turn to alternative sources. Especially those that can actually put diabetes into remission when all you get told by mainstream sources is ‘take your tablets, eat your fruit and live with it’

TB

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Christ almighty. Some of these stories are giving me palpitations. #Nurseprobs

I'm not a medical professional, but I think for something this serious, this is a bad place to get medical advice. Hell, I try to live by "don't get medical advice online".

Sure, but the point is that the vast majority of health professionals won’t give you any kind of low carb advice as they just haven’t looked at the evidence of it (of which there is lots) so it’s no wonder that people turn to alternative sources. Especially those that can actually put diabetes into remission when all you get told by mainstream sources is ‘take your tablets, eat your fruit and live with it’

TB"

Yup exactly. There's quite enough 'incidental' carbohydrate as fibre in veg, nuts, pulses, legumes etc without EVER needing to eat carb heavy foods like bread, pasta, grains etc.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

..and fibre, not as.

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over a year ago

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Just been reading (if anyone takes Gabapentin) they have changed its licensing from 1st April so you can only get it in one monthly doses.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Do you test your bloods OP?

I found that it made a great difference, I found out what foods spiked my blood sugar and it really helped. My HbA1C was over 125 when I was diagnosed last year and by testing after everything I ate, and taking Metformin, I bought it down to 48 on the first follow up test. When I have the next one I am going to ask the Doc to reduce the tablets and see if I can keep it down myself.

Blood test meters aren't a lot of money and your Doc should prescribe testing strips. If he won't change doctors.

Good luck

Steve

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By *rK MrsJCouple
over a year ago

Kidderminster


"Hi guys I'm a 53 year old man weighing in at 16 stone. I've just had a Hba1c test and it was 107 . Is that a high result . Been like this for 6 years and various GPS have messed me about but no one can get my blood sugar down . I'm starting to get pins n needles in my toes and my local spec savers has now found a cataract in my eyes . Any help please ?

"

Go back to another GP, my hba1c was 70 and my GP started me on metformin straight away.

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By *ifty grades of shadyCouple
over a year ago

Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight


"Hi guys I'm a 53 year old man weighing in at 16 stone. I've just had a Hba1c test and it was 107 . Is that a high result . Been like this for 6 years and various GPS have messed me about but no one can get my blood sugar down . I'm starting to get pins n needles in my toes and my local spec savers has now found a cataract in my eyes . Any help please ?

Go back to another GP, my hba1c was 70 and my GP started me on metformin straight away."

absolutely, it's your right to have a second opinion if you aren't happy with what has been offered thus far.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was diagnosed in October and just been put on to insulin.

Has anyone else lost there sex drive?

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By *upergirthukMan
over a year ago

Liverpool UK

High fat Low Carb diet (75% Fat, 20% Protein and 5% Carb).

Exercise (core and walking).

Cholesterol medication (Ezetimibe).

Visit Dietdoctor.com or diabetes.co.uk (not the NHS site) for help via the forums and with the Low Carb diet.

It took me 3 months to put mine in remission. Best of luck and do it now.

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By *ifty grades of shadyCouple
over a year ago

Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight

One of the pitfalls of high blood sugars is the possibility of getting thrush, that applies to both sexes. Itchiness and red spots and/or white affected area on genitals. Not nice and whilst canistan cream helps, without getting the levels lower, it often remains persistently active as the source is still active.

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By *upergirthukMan
over a year ago

Liverpool UK


"High fat Low Carb diet (75% Fat, 20% Protein and 5% Carb).

Exercise (core and walking).

Cholesterol medication (Ezetimibe).

Visit Dietdoctor.com or diabetes.co.uk (not the NHS site) for help via the forums and with the Low Carb diet.

It took me 3 months to put mine in remission. Best of luck and do it now. "

Use Myfitnesspal app to measure and calculate your daily nutrition intake.

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By *arren the dogger OP   Man
over a year ago

willenhall

Changed gp surgeries 4 times in six years and still no joy . All down to finance I'm afraid .

Thanks for all your help on this one guys .......I'm sure it will run and run .

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Changed gp surgeries 4 times in six years and still no joy . All down to finance I'm afraid .

Thanks for all your help on this one guys .......I'm sure it will run and run .

"

What did you expect them to do? Don't just rely on tablets to fix things. You need to take control of this yourself.

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London

I was newly diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic. My HbA1c was 61 last June I was advised by my doctor to go on a low carb diet, had my blood tested again 2 months later and that 61 when to 51. It's not easy but it is possible. I don't want to keep taking medication for something I can change/reverse myself.

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln


"I was newly diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic. My HbA1c was 61 last June I was advised by my doctor to go on a low carb diet, had my blood tested again 2 months later and that 61 when to 51. It's not easy but it is possible. I don't want to keep taking medication for something I can change/reverse myself."

Awesome, keep hold of that doctor!

TB

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By *upergirthukMan
over a year ago

Liverpool UK


"I was newly diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic. My HbA1c was 61 last June I was advised by my doctor to go on a low carb diet, had my blood tested again 2 months later and that 61 when to 51. It's not easy but it is possible. I don't want to keep taking medication for something I can change/reverse myself."

Put yourself into Ketosis on a HFLC diet and exercise. I went from 58 to 38 in 3 months and have kept it down even though I have varied my diet to include more carbs these days.

I'm also getting 20 viagra a month as I said my labido had been effected. It hasn't but belt and braces lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was diagnosed in october as type 2 with HbA1c of 104 so was eased on to metformin.

I dropped all fast food, takeaway, fish and chips, potatoe based products, pasta, bread, beer, crisps, chocolate, milk and other carb based things that arent long burning like oats. I now use alternatives like cauliflower for rice and courgette spriralised for spaghetti. I also eat plain porridge every morning (healthyish fry up at weekend) which i didn't use to as to minimise side effects of metformin. I am also walking much much more as well taking breaks often during the day from the computer and drinking more water.

When i had my 3 month HbA1c test in Jan i was down to 58.5. I still have a long way to go and it isn't just medicine that is the answer, its a significant lifestyle change

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By *dward_TeagueMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton


"I was diagnosed in october as type 2 with HbA1c of 104 so was eased on to metformin.

I dropped all fast food, takeaway, fish and chips, potatoe based products, pasta, bread, beer, crisps, chocolate, milk and other carb based things that arent long burning like oats. I now use alternatives like cauliflower for rice and courgette spriralised for spaghetti. I also eat plain porridge every morning (healthyish fry up at weekend) which i didn't use to as to minimise side effects of metformin. I am also walking much much more as well taking breaks often during the day from the computer and drinking more water.

When i had my 3 month HbA1c test in Jan i was down to 58.5. I still have a long way to go and it isn't just medicine that is the answer, its a significant lifestyle change"

Well done mate, keep it up. The last five words of your post say it all really. It’s a lifestyle disease that can be cured by lifestyle changes.

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