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"Perhaps the Sunday only meets are a limiting factor too. You're looking for a straight, non-kissing couple, who will fancy the other party, who can meet on a Sunday. Say it out loud like that and there's possibly the reason why you feel your struggling. Keep plugging away though, you go for what you seek, no compromise. You look great, so when that right couple comes along, and the stars align... " This is what we would have written too... | |||
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"Perhaps the Sunday only meets are a limiting factor too. You're looking for a straight, non-kissing couple, who will fancy the other party, who can meet on a Sunday. Say it out loud like that and there's possibly the reason why you feel your struggling. Keep plugging away though, you go for what you seek, no compromise. You look great, so when that right couple comes along, and the stars align... " Yea good way of putting it. We’ll edit it abit, thanks | |||
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"Perhaps the Sunday only meets are a limiting factor too. You're looking for a straight, non-kissing couple, who will fancy the other party, who can meet on a Sunday. Say it out loud like that and there's possibly the reason why you feel your struggling. Keep plugging away though, you go for what you seek, no compromise. You look great, so when that right couple comes along, and the stars align... " I have to say these are some very fair observations. The more restrictions that you put in place, the smaller your target audience. Of course, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. We all have our preferences, and we all have lives outside of fab. For example, now that my son lives with me, I can no longer meet whenever I choose, day or night and have had to limit my availability to weekday daytimes whilst he's at school, and with that, I understand that this massively limits my choices and indeed my appeal to others who can not meet at times that I am available. | |||
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"Probably because your soft swap only, most people prefer full swap, " Soft swap is all we’ve done so far apart from MMF meets but we have put that we are looking for our first full swap. | |||
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"Probably because your soft swap only, most people prefer full swap, Soft swap is all we’ve done so far apart from MMF meets but we have put that we are looking for our first full swap. " Lots of couples are happy with soft swap, so I doubt that's the problem. It can just be really hard for 4 people to agree on mutual attraction. Have you considered clubs? Nita | |||
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"Probably because your soft swap only, most people prefer full swap, Soft swap is all we’ve done so far apart from MMF meets but we have put that we are looking for our first full swap. " Perhaps start a "soft swap and hopefully lead to full swap" thread op's in your local(ish) area ? Just a thought to make fab more enjoyable for you | |||
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"I met a couple where the lady would not kiss . I still enjoyed myself . but soft play would not entice people I'm afraid . " We’ve no problem finding soft swap couples. It’s full swap we’re struggling with lol. We’re putting it down to S not being bi as with most couples the female wants to play with the female of the other couple. | |||
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"Are you struggling to find people you both like ? Or are you messaging first and people aren’t replying ? Or are you waiting for messages and no one is messaging? Or do things go well until you mention you only want straight soft play ? " A mix of everything really. We message those we like the look of and rarely get a reply. We get messages from couples but, a lot of the time they state they like the 2 females to play on their own to get things going. This is despite the fact we have it written in our profile that S isn’t bi sexual or curious. We’ve decided to always do socials first now due to being messed around twice by 2 couples where we booked a hotel room and they cancelled at the last minute. So not sure wether that’s an issue or not aswell. We understand the kissing may be an issue but would have thought couples would be happy kissing their own partners but having sex and touching the other couple. | |||
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"O couldn't imagine meeting someone and not kissing. It is such a natural part of me. " I completely agree with this. Kissing is what turns me on and gets me wet to receive a nice juicy man! Sex is a very personal thing and I personally would struggle with the limitations and would end up being very fake | |||
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"O couldn't imagine meeting someone and not kissing. It is such a natural part of me. I completely agree with this. Kissing is what turns me on and gets me wet to receive a nice juicy man! Sex is a very personal thing and I personally would struggle with the limitations and would end up being very fake " Yea this is why we don’t play with single guys anymore as we agree it’s difficult for them to get turned on without kissing. We’re hoping for couples who will be happy kissing their own partners whilst playing with the other. It’s a struggle but as they say, ‘All good things come to those who wait’. Well, we’ll just keep telling ourselves that lol | |||
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"O couldn't imagine meeting someone and not kissing. It is such a natural part of me. I completely agree with this. Kissing is what turns me on and gets me wet to receive a nice juicy man! Sex is a very personal thing and I personally would struggle with the limitations and would end up being very fake Yea this is why we don’t play with single guys anymore as we agree it’s difficult for them to get turned on without kissing. We’re hoping for couples who will be happy kissing their own partners whilst playing with the other. It’s a struggle but as they say, ‘All good things come to those who wait’. Well, we’ll just keep telling ourselves that lol" Not just the guys that struggle to get turned on. Don’t know if you noticed but I am a female commenting that I can’t get turned on without the kissing!! | |||
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"O couldn't imagine meeting someone and not kissing. It is such a natural part of me. I completely agree with this. Kissing is what turns me on and gets me wet to receive a nice juicy man! Sex is a very personal thing and I personally would struggle with the limitations and would end up being very fake Yea this is why we don’t play with single guys anymore as we agree it’s difficult for them to get turned on without kissing. We’re hoping for couples who will be happy kissing their own partners whilst playing with the other. It’s a struggle but as they say, ‘All good things come to those who wait’. Well, we’ll just keep telling ourselves that lol" I'm a single guy and for me kissing should also only be between you and your partner. It's like making love to the soul but maybe I'm in a small minority | |||
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"O couldn't imagine meeting someone and not kissing. It is such a natural part of me. I completely agree with this. Kissing is what turns me on and gets me wet to receive a nice juicy man! Sex is a very personal thing and I personally would struggle with the limitations and would end up being very fake Yea this is why we don’t play with single guys anymore as we agree it’s difficult for them to get turned on without kissing. We’re hoping for couples who will be happy kissing their own partners whilst playing with the other. It’s a struggle but as they say, ‘All good things come to those who wait’. Well, we’ll just keep telling ourselves that lol I'm a single guy and for me kissing should also only be between you and your partner. It's like making love to the soul but maybe I'm in a small minority " Nice to see a single guy share the same view. | |||
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"O couldn't imagine meeting someone and not kissing. It is such a natural part of me. I completely agree with this. Kissing is what turns me on and gets me wet to receive a nice juicy man! Sex is a very personal thing and I personally would struggle with the limitations and would end up being very fake Yea this is why we don’t play with single guys anymore as we agree it’s difficult for them to get turned on without kissing. We’re hoping for couples who will be happy kissing their own partners whilst playing with the other. It’s a struggle but as they say, ‘All good things come to those who wait’. Well, we’ll just keep telling ourselves that lol" I reckon I'd have zero issues getting turned on by you even without the kissing | |||
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"O couldn't imagine meeting someone and not kissing. It is such a natural part of me. I completely agree with this. Kissing is what turns me on and gets me wet to receive a nice juicy man! Sex is a very personal thing and I personally would struggle with the limitations and would end up being very fake Yea this is why we don’t play with single guys anymore as we agree it’s difficult for them to get turned on without kissing. We’re hoping for couples who will be happy kissing their own partners whilst playing with the other. It’s a struggle but as they say, ‘All good things come to those who wait’. Well, we’ll just keep telling ourselves that lolI reckon I'd have zero issues getting turned on by you even without the kissing " Thanks All the single men we’ve met have been fine with no kissing and seemed to have no problem getting turned on by me giving them, and them giving me oral. S | |||
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"I know and have met a few couples with no kissing and soft swap with my female friend I guess if that's what you want then hold out xx" How did they work out for you? Did either you or your female friend find it an issue? | |||
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"Probably because your soft swap only, most people prefer full swap, " We’ve not found this but the no kissing bit limits things with a soft swap. We like a sensual soft swap, kissing and touching is such a huge turn on!!! | |||
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"I know and have met a few couples with no kissing and soft swap with my female friend I guess if that's what you want then hold out xx How did they work out for you? Did either you or your female friend find it an issue?" It was strange but we enjoyed each other very passionately and the soft swap was almost a foreplay ftp see each other haveing fun if you can see what I mean xx | |||
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"rules, rules and more rules. bunch of control freaks" Really? | |||
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"rules, rules and more rules. bunch of control freaks" Why? They are free to have their own preferences and say in how they play. | |||
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"We have a similar problem, again due to looking for that 4 way attraction and also straight play. One other thing that may be an issue is the age difference between you. With the male half being late 30s and female being early 20s, what couple age range is it you're after? Older couples may be put off with the young female, due to having children in the same age range, while younger couples may not be looking for an older male. Just another possibility?" I prefer older guys but within reason so highest is 40 for me. Yea can see the age gap being an issue. Looks like everything is against us lol. | |||
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"As for me, kissing is one of the nicest erotic parts of fourplay,massive turn on" I couldn't agree more with that | |||
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"Photos of Mr OP aren't as good as Mrs OP. Put more effort into this area. I imagine any female in another couple will have a large say in who they play with, so aim your profile at her. Especially true if she will not get to play with Mrs OP. I'm no expert. Wish you all the best though " Never thought of that actually. He ain’t happy with how he looks and is quite shy but yea, good point thanks. We’ll try taking some pics of him. "3 months in and 10 veris suggests things aren't too bad OP?" It’s not too bad no. Just struggling with full swaps. We enjoyed socials and soft swap which is where we get most interest. | |||
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