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"The idea does intrigue me but I'm thinking that finding a couple where you fancy both may be difficult " Definitely a case of the stars having to align for it all to be right we think but the idea of it working is really intriguing us lately. So who knows. Just got to be open to the idea and see where it leads I guess. X | |||
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"Well I hope you find what you are looking for " Thanks xx | |||
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"I've encountered people who are, have freinds who and freinds of freinds who are. My experience (from an outsider) is it's really rough going and often doesn't work out, or at least as originally planned. Although it depends what you want long term relationships wise. It adds a lot of fluidity to relationships and you may go through life gaining and also losing partners through it, including your current one. So something to think about if you intend to spend your life with your current partner. Also a lot depends if you want to go through life as sort of free agent or to combine forces and resourses with a partner or partners as this can be complicated especially if it ends badly. It may work for some people but from what I can see it often results in lots of hurt. A lot depends on what sort of person you are and on if you want life long relationship continuity or an ever evolving and changing relationship life with people coming in and out. Also these relationships often see people more up and down in relationship status in the group. This can be very hard for people, especially if they move down for a level they thought was concrete. Think carefully about it." Thanks for your input. All makes sense. We are 23 years in so we know what we are about. Maybe we were extremely lucky to find each other and will never find another to fit with that. It is definitely intriguing but also comes with risk which we have talked about endlessly. For us, we would only consider something like this a long term arrangement. If it's going to be more than sex then it has to be. Financial and other ties would be very tricky to resolve that's for sure. | |||
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"This would be my husband’s ideal scenario. He loves another woman by his own confession. He loves me dearly too. He would love to be able to express his love freely to both of us- he is legally married to me, and he has no wish to change that, or to have any more children or set up a home with her, etc- but he wants to have a bona fide relationship with her and me to accept it and me and her to become friends. My response? No fudging way. So it’s a matter of seeing if it will work for you in reality. I never thought I was jealous until 18 months ago! " Absolutely has to be 100% agreement all round. We definitely don't imagine a relationship where we are a seperate entity it would have to work all 3 ways or not at all. | |||
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"That's our dream too, to thruple up! Good luck finding your unicorn! " Problem is they're not called unicorns for nothing lol ![]() | |||
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"I've encountered people who are, have freinds who and freinds of freinds who are. My experience (from an outsider) is it's really rough going and often doesn't work out, or at least as originally planned. Although it depends what you want long term relationships wise. It adds a lot of fluidity to relationships and you may go through life gaining and also losing partners through it, including your current one. So something to think about if you intend to spend your life with your current partner. Also a lot depends if you want to go through life as sort of free agent or to combine forces and resourses with a partner or partners as this can be complicated especially if it ends badly. It may work for some people but from what I can see it often results in lots of hurt. A lot depends on what sort of person you are and on if you want life long relationship continuity or an ever evolving and changing relationship life with people coming in and out. Also these relationships often see people more up and down in relationship status in the group. This can be very hard for people, especially if they move down for a level they thought was concrete. Think carefully about it. Thanks for your input. All makes sense. We are 23 years in so we know what we are about. Maybe we were extremely lucky to find each other and will never find another to fit with that. It is definitely intriguing but also comes with risk which we have talked about endlessly. For us, we would only consider something like this a long term arrangement. If it's going to be more than sex then it has to be. Financial and other ties would be very tricky to resolve that's for sure." The way I see things is that relationships are a spectrum rather than a couple of set boxes. For example it is possible to have something that falls inbetween the love of your life and yet more than friends with benifits. So perfectly possible to have relationships with others but to maintain your status to each other (in theory). More additions to your current relationship. Be true to yours selfs and just be aware of the risks, humans are complex. Logic and reason are fine on paper but they rarely account for the human emotion chaos factor. Persoanlly I am wary because I often don't see it working to well for all involved long term, or at least as planned. | |||
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"I would love to be a Polyandry " Hmm similar driving forces I think peeking at your profile ![]() | |||
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"You would need total equality like any relationship for it to work. I would also say it would need to build and grow as in any relationship, with milestones and meaningful times. Maybe if you do find someone, don't sleep with them. Show them that it is more than just sex. It's so complex. Legally the third person wouldn't be entitled to anything, which seems wrong if you are all equal. I wish you luck on your search, maybe join Tinder or POF etc... if you want it you need to look for it first! I would love to give and recieve that much love in a trouple. Amazing." Downside would be the fight for 'shotgun'..... | |||
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"You would need total equality like any relationship for it to work. I would also say it would need to build and grow as in any relationship, with milestones and meaningful times. Maybe if you do find someone, don't sleep with them. Show them that it is more than just sex. It's so complex. Legally the third person wouldn't be entitled to anything, which seems wrong if you are all equal. I wish you luck on your search, maybe join Tinder or POF etc... if you want it you need to look for it first! I would love to give and recieve that much love in a trouple. Amazing. Downside would be the fight for 'shotgun'....." That ones going to need a Rota or there will be cat fights on the driveway lol | |||
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"You would need total equality like any relationship for it to work. I would also say it would need to build and grow as in any relationship, with milestones and meaningful times. Maybe if you do find someone, don't sleep with them. Show them that it is more than just sex. It's so complex. Legally the third person wouldn't be entitled to anything, which seems wrong if you are all equal. I wish you luck on your search, maybe join Tinder or POF etc... if you want it you need to look for it first! I would love to give and recieve that much love in a trouple. Amazing." Thank you. Not sure we are going to actively search yet but it's been great discussing with people and had some fantastic suggestions for reading material... Thanks to those who have contacted us. Xx | |||
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"I've really been thinking about poly and the potential to join a couple. I know most if not all couples are looking for a single girl to join them. Not so good for the guys who want to get into poly! Has to be the right couple, no jealousy and being able to 'fit' into their already existing relationship." You'd be surprised judging by the msgs we have had. It's surprised us anyway lol. There are definitely those looking for guys out there too. It's fascinating. When you switch from fucking to actually including someone and feelings are involved then jealousy is going to have to be delt with at some point I'm sure but everyone should understand that going in. For us it would have to work all 3 ways two so anyone coming in would have to fit with both of us. Not asking much really lol | |||
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"We were verging on this recently, and to be honest it was working out well, it kind of just started falling into place and moved along naturally. Currently our 3rd is having some life problems so she's re-evaluating the whole thing as well as her whole life but she has said she's not ruled out returning to what we were doing. Personally we would go for it again with the right person." Hope it works for you guys. Must be hard joining an established couple. I guess good communication and understanding is key to all relationships. | |||
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"You don't have to live together to be in a poly relationship, and you all don't have to be on equal footings. Other than the label and a pledge to be monogamous, there's no actual difference between friends and people in a relationship. Take away the monogamy rule and you can say that you're in a relationship with all your friends. loads of profiles on fab state that they are looking for people they can be friends with and fuck on a regular basis - they're basically poly without knowing it." Yup that's us | |||
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"You don't have to live together to be in a poly relationship, and you all don't have to be on equal footings. Other than the label and a pledge to be monogamous, there's no actual difference between friends and people in a relationship. Take away the monogamy rule and you can say that you're in a relationship with all your friends. loads of profiles on fab state that they are looking for people they can be friends with and fuck on a regular basis - they're basically poly without knowing it." Ok I’m mistaken... I thought poly meant long term relationships with equal footing for all... | |||
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"Speaking from recent experience.....please bare in mind that the '3rd' may get jealous of your base relationship and do anything in their power to break you up, worming their way in and knowing what will hurt you the most...you both need to be strong enough to withstand that jealousy. Hope it works out for you x ![]() That's an interesting point. Jealousy is a natural emotion that should always be talked out and neutral ground found to keep everyone happy but considering it from the third persons perspective isn't something that immediately sprang to mind. Definitely something to be aware of. | |||
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"Ok I’m mistaken... I thought poly meant long term relationships with equal footing for all..." You get primary and secondary partners - some people prefer to be secondary because they like their own space and don't want to get so deeply involved. Not everyone has to love and have sex with each other but everyone has to have the mentality of sharing and being happy for other people's happiness. If you've got a jealous, envious, possessive or greedy streak in you, then poly relationships are not a clever thing to do until you've overcome these anti-communal emotions. | |||
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"Also agreed the book the ethical slut is a really good read for anyone interested in this dynamic ![]() Agree Ethical Slut is a really good read and can help you navigate through your feelings Lucky enough to have been involved in a couple of poly relationships both mmf and ffm had the most amazing holiday last year with wife and girlfriend. I now find that connection that comes with poly really rewarding. There are a few good poly groups on Facebook and the munches are good places to meet people that think the same. | |||
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"Phoenixcouplexx - you state in your profile that you don't play separately under any circumstances. The reason you choose this is something you will have to look at closely. Being truly poly would mean that either of you could go and play without the other and get themselves a new partner that the other is not involved with. If you just want a third person to join in with a closed relationship (where no other relationships are allowed) then it's not really polyamory - more a kind of polygamy." Yes we understand that the boundaries we have for swinging are just that... for swinging. This topic is a whole other thing. We have talked about a third that we can play with together or any other combination between the three of us. And what's to stop the three of us choosing to go swinging together with any boundaries we choose? Why does it have to closed or totally open, surely it can be whatever those involved want it to be. Polyamory, Polyamgy not really worried about labelling it. | |||
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" Why does it have to closed or totally open, surely it can be whatever those involved want it to be. Polyamory, Polygamy not really worried about labeling it." You're right. The complication is that there are two different types of Polyamory, and you have to make sure everyone involved has the same idea and understanding - because they don't mix. The difference is that one way has rules and the other doesn't. The one with rules is complicated and needs structure and strict adherence to the rules or there will be strife. The other type of Polyamory has no rules or constraints from anybody who is not directly interacting with each other: So you can have your own boundaries as to what you personally want to do with someone and what you'll accept from them, but it stops there - you can't give other people boundaries for what they want to do with anyone else. You can't force anyone to be committed to you - they will be as close and spend as much time with you as they want and you allow (which could be a lot or it could be a little) There is no feeling of ownership and no jealousy or annoyance that they're not doing what you want. Essentially this way is friends-with-benefits. Now a lot of people think FWB is just a shallow fuck-buddy who you rarely see just to have sex - but there are varying degrees of friendship (from BFF to vague acquaintances) so can be as deep and meaningful and loving and close as any relationship. There's never a need to lie or hide anything and you have total freedom to be yourself and do what you like. You can live together or not. So as long as everyone knows the score and is on the same page... Here are some programs on Polyamory, which you might find online: "Polyamory Married and Dating" (two seasons) https://mega.nz/#F!JCoAVarb!z_nPZwp7WIl5SA0ZHvLavg Polyamory - Hidden Lives Three in a Bed - 2007 Love Unlimited Polyamory in Scotland BBC Documentaries Sharing the love: What it's like to be in a polyamorous relationship Louis Theroux Altered states Love Without Limits | |||
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"I've been recently offered this by some friends, I've said no several times as I feel I would never truly be equal. I'd always be a third wheel. Sadly hasn't ended well. " I would say that making you feel like a third wheel is bad form on the couple in question | |||
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" Why does it have to closed or totally open, surely it can be whatever those involved want it to be. Polyamory, Polygamy not really worried about labeling it. You're right. The complication is that there are two different types of Polyamory, and you have to make sure everyone involved has the same idea and understanding - because they don't mix. The difference is that one way has rules and the other doesn't. The one with rules is complicated and needs structure and strict adherence to the rules or there will be strife. The other type of Polyamory has no rules or constraints from anybody who is not directly interacting with each other: So you can have your own boundaries as to what you personally want to do with someone and what you'll accept from them, but it stops there - you can't give other people boundaries for what they want to do with anyone else. You can't force anyone to be committed to you - they will be as close and spend as much time with you as they want and you allow (which could be a lot or it could be a little) There is no feeling of ownership and no jealousy or annoyance that they're not doing what you want. Essentially this way is friends-with-benefits. Now a lot of people think FWB is just a shallow fuck-buddy who you rarely see just to have sex - but there are varying degrees of friendship (from BFF to vague acquaintances) so can be as deep and meaningful and loving and close as any relationship. There's never a need to lie or hide anything and you have total freedom to be yourself and do what you like. You can live together or not. So as long as everyone knows the score and is on the same page... Here are some programs on Polyamory, which you might find online: "Polyamory Married and Dating" (two seasons) https://mega.nz/#F!JCoAVarb!z_nPZwp7WIl5SA0ZHvLavg Polyamory - Hidden Lives Three in a Bed - 2007 Love Unlimited Polyamory in Scotland BBC Documentaries Sharing the love: What it's like to be in a polyamorous relationship Louis Theroux Altered states Love Without Limits" Thanks for the links. We wouldn't dream of trying to put boundaries on anyone or trying to force them to do what we wanted but if their outlook aligned with ours.... If we chose this route we would be looking for someone with a similar outlook to us. We're not really viewing it as any different to dating any other perspective partner just that there's two of us not one. As there is two of us finding someone that is attracted to both of us and would like to further a relationship with both of us is obviously going to be rocking horse poo but an intriguing idea. In all honesty we have experienced something along those lines before but at the time chose not to venture further than swinging with it. But now having that experience and being much further down the road together times have changed. If it felt right then we would be much more open to the idea of progressing. We never have conformed to labels lol | |||
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"I've been recently offered this by some friends, I've said no several times as I feel I would never truly be equal. I'd always be a third wheel. Sadly hasn't ended well. I would say that making you feel like a third wheel is bad form on the couple in question" That's the key isn't it. We have been together 23 years. How do you convince a potential 3rd that you are open to letting someone in further than sex. I would think you just have to 'date', enjoy each other's company, be open and see where you end up. | |||
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"Hubby and I experienced a poly trio with a gorgeous girly a few years ago, we met her at Chams and we clicked straight away...we had great times for around 4 years, we swung together, she was accepted by our family and it worked really well for a long time. She was half my age and that’s where the cracks started to show after a while, I started menopause, went off sex completely blah blah blah and I think we just out grew each other...it came to an end and she moved forward with her life...I do still miss her a lot sometimes, Iv never had a best friend as close as she was before or since... and I doubt we would ever find that sort of relationship again, but it was great great fun at the time...." ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Now I know that not everyone on here either gets/interested/agrees with the Poly life style and i get that and its totally okay as its down to choice in the end. But what I have found is this lifestyle opens up the experiences and dynamics to people that may start them considering if poly maybe something worth exploring. I have been asked a number of times about the benefits and negatives of living a poly lifestyle. Now I am not saying I am the guru of all knowledge but i have had both good and bad experiences of poly and wanted to share what I have learnt. Let’s start off with all the good parts of Polyamory. Now these may not be in all oly relationships but is generally what I have found. 1. Open Communication For poly to work you must have amazing two way communication skills. Poly households need to be able to discuss alot of difficult topics. You need to discuss your relationship dynamics, comfort levels and jealousy. You need to discuss your boundaries and your emotions, which is a great exercise of communication. It can really let you open up about your desires and feelings and learn about the needs of your partner or partners. 2. Cheating/affairs If you’re open to each other, then you get to be intimate with other people without the damage cheating/affairs can have on a couple. Now i am not saying it can not occur as if couples have set boundaries to their poly relationship and these are broken then cheating can occur. 3. Exploring different dynamics and sexuallity. Being intimate with more than one person can lead to you being able to exlore all sides of you kink dynamics and your sexuality. It also means that you have more than 1 person to share your life eith opening up an enviroment thar allows you to explore more facets of life. You share lives not just sex. 4. Support and personal growth The more people you have close to you, the more loving support you hace within your life. This can include additional emotional support, physical support and practical support. There is a Polyamory theory that the more you are loved, the more you are able to accept love, which in turn makes you a better support system for those around you. That can’t be a bad thing can it ? So now lets look at some of the negatives that come with a pily lifestyle. 1. Jealousy Now this is one I always struggled with, i have never really felt or understood jealousy and its something I have had to learn to deal with in others. At one point i was very silly to assume well your poly you should not be jealous. But thats not true I now understand that people can be in a poly relationship and be jealous. Its how they deal with the jealousy that is the key factor. In order for the relationships to be successful, you need to be comfortable talking about jealousy and finding ways to solve issues. Ifyou dont do that like in any monogamous relationship it can tear the relationship apart and leave a sea of broken hearts. 2. Juggling time. Life can get really busy, so making sure everyone gets time is a must. And to be honest this is one of the hardest parts of being poly. I always joke that this is easy fir me as I have a Boo, and she is the Poly PA for the house od pest lol. But you have to keep in mind sometimes its possible that one person may need more attention than the other, and there needs to be a way to balance everything so no one gets left out. To be honest normally fir us its the core relationship of Boo and Me that sacrifice time to make sure everyone gets the time they need. 3. The stigma Polyamory is not widely socially acceptable. I have had people say to me in the past that I can not love Boo if I have someone else. That its really just fucking around, that im cheatimg and Boo can not be accepting of this behaviour. Its seen in a bad light by many. So in many poly groups its kept secret from their friends and family. 4. Baggage If you are not in a good point in your core relationship and you are trying poly to try and fix your issues then its not going to work. The core has to be strong for poly to work or you end up with unhappy partners. Also the core is taking on the baggage that comes with most people now over the age of 20 lol. This canput strain on the other relationship specially in the early stages 5. The ugly Poly will always be used by those that are hidding their lifestyle from their partners as an excuse to screw around. This is not poly this is not open relationship this cheating . Now the above is just a general observation from myself and my poly journey. Now what I can say is that i have met some wonderful people and experienced alot of life adventures with them. I have learnt alot about myself as well, there has also been heartbreak, tears and alot of stress on the way but I will stand by my poly lifesyle and look forward to all it brings" Well written. I really like the part about getting 2 lots of love and giving it back. This is Poly to me. | |||
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"Now I know that not everyone on here either gets/interested/agrees with the Poly life style and i get that and its totally okay as its down to choice in the end. But what I have found is this lifestyle opens up the experiences and dynamics to people that may start them considering if poly maybe something worth exploring. I have been asked a number of times about the benefits and negatives of living a poly lifestyle. Now I am not saying I am the guru of all knowledge but i have had both good and bad experiences of poly and wanted to share what I have learnt. Let’s start off with all the good parts of Polyamory. Now these may not be in all oly relationships but is generally what I have found. 1. Open Communication For poly to work you must have amazing two way communication skills. Poly households need to be able to discuss alot of difficult topics. You need to discuss your relationship dynamics, comfort levels and jealousy. You need to discuss your boundaries and your emotions, which is a great exercise of communication. It can really let you open up about your desires and feelings and learn about the needs of your partner or partners. 2. Cheating/affairs If you’re open to each other, then you get to be intimate with other people without the damage cheating/affairs can have on a couple. Now i am not saying it can not occur as if couples have set boundaries to their poly relationship and these are broken then cheating can occur. 3. Exploring different dynamics and sexuallity. Being intimate with more than one person can lead to you being able to exlore all sides of you kink dynamics and your sexuality. It also means that you have more than 1 person to share your life eith opening up an enviroment thar allows you to explore more facets of life. You share lives not just sex. 4. Support and personal growth The more people you have close to you, the more loving support you hace within your life. This can include additional emotional support, physical support and practical support. There is a Polyamory theory that the more you are loved, the more you are able to accept love, which in turn makes you a better support system for those around you. That can’t be a bad thing can it ? So now lets look at some of the negatives that come with a pily lifestyle. 1. Jealousy Now this is one I always struggled with, i have never really felt or understood jealousy and its something I have had to learn to deal with in others. At one point i was very silly to assume well your poly you should not be jealous. But thats not true I now understand that people can be in a poly relationship and be jealous. Its how they deal with the jealousy that is the key factor. In order for the relationships to be successful, you need to be comfortable talking about jealousy and finding ways to solve issues. Ifyou dont do that like in any monogamous relationship it can tear the relationship apart and leave a sea of broken hearts. 2. Juggling time. Life can get really busy, so making sure everyone gets time is a must. And to be honest this is one of the hardest parts of being poly. I always joke that this is easy fir me as I have a Boo, and she is the Poly PA for the house od pest lol. But you have to keep in mind sometimes its possible that one person may need more attention than the other, and there needs to be a way to balance everything so no one gets left out. To be honest normally fir us its the core relationship of Boo and Me that sacrifice time to make sure everyone gets the time they need. 3. The stigma Polyamory is not widely socially acceptable. I have had people say to me in the past that I can not love Boo if I have someone else. That its really just fucking around, that im cheatimg and Boo can not be accepting of this behaviour. Its seen in a bad light by many. So in many poly groups its kept secret from their friends and family. 4. Baggage If you are not in a good point in your core relationship and you are trying poly to try and fix your issues then its not going to work. The core has to be strong for poly to work or you end up with unhappy partners. Also the core is taking on the baggage that comes with most people now over the age of 20 lol. This canput strain on the other relationship specially in the early stages 5. The ugly Poly will always be used by those that are hidding their lifestyle from their partners as an excuse to screw around. This is not poly this is not open relationship this cheating . Now the above is just a general observation from myself and my poly journey. Now what I can say is that i have met some wonderful people and experienced alot of life adventures with them. I have learnt alot about myself as well, there has also been heartbreak, tears and alot of stress on the way but I will stand by my poly lifesyle and look forward to all it brings" Wonderfully put and a great informative read, thank you ![]() | |||
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"I'm always curious about the poly idea.. I'm a single female that doesn't really do relationships, but I see the appeal in a poly relationship with several people. " It might be worth you looking up something called solo Polyamory ![]() | |||
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"I'm always curious about the poly idea.. I'm a single female that doesn't really do relationships, but I see the appeal in a poly relationship with several people. It might be worth you looking up something called solo Polyamory ![]() Yes very much so.. I cannot recommend "more than two" highly enough too. Valuable book and website. Also find if there is a poly social group near you. | |||
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"I'm always curious about the poly idea.. I'm a single female that doesn't really do relationships, but I see the appeal in a poly relationship with several people. It might be worth you looking up something called solo Polyamory ![]() Thanks!! | |||
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" Why does it have to closed or totally open, surely it can be whatever those involved want it to be. Polyamory, Polygamy not really worried about labeling it. You're right. The complication is that there are two different types of Polyamory, and you have to make sure everyone involved has the same idea and understanding - because they don't mix. The difference is that one way has rules and the other doesn't. The one with rules is complicated and needs structure and strict adherence to the rules or there will be strife. The other type of Polyamory has no rules or constraints from anybody who is not directly interacting with each other: So you can have your own boundaries as to what you personally want to do with someone and what you'll accept from them, but it stops there - you can't give other people boundaries for what they want to do with anyone else. You can't force anyone to be committed to you - they will be as close and spend as much time with you as they want and you allow (which could be a lot or it could be a little) There is no feeling of ownership and no jealousy or annoyance that they're not doing what you want. Essentially this way is friends-with-benefits. Now a lot of people think FWB is just a shallow fuck-buddy who you rarely see just to have sex - but there are varying degrees of friendship (from BFF to vague acquaintances) so can be as deep and meaningful and loving and close as any relationship. There's never a need to lie or hide anything and you have total freedom to be yourself and do what you like. You can live together or not. So as long as everyone knows the score and is on the same page... Here are some programs on Polyamory, which you might find online: "Polyamory Married and Dating" (two seasons) https://mega.nz/#F!JCoAVarb!z_nPZwp7WIl5SA0ZHvLavg Polyamory - Hidden Lives Three in a Bed - 2007 Love Unlimited Polyamory in Scotland BBC Documentaries Sharing the love: What it's like to be in a polyamorous relationship Louis Theroux Altered states Love Without Limits" Reviving this fascinating thread, after reading a similar thread. | |||
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"I've been recently offered this by some friends, I've said no several times as I feel I would never truly be equal. I'd always be a third wheel. Sadly hasn't ended well. I would say that making you feel like a third wheel is bad form on the couple in question That's the key isn't it. We have been together 23 years. How do you convince a potential 3rd that you are open to letting someone in further than sex. I would think you just have to 'date', enjoy each other's company, be open and see where you end up." They actually were very good friends. The female kept pestering and wouldn't take no for an answer, I ended up cutting all ties with both. Initially blocking them from all social media to. It makes me sad as I've lost two good friends, unfortunately her behaviour ruined that. | |||
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"I've been recently offered this by some friends, I've said no several times as I feel I would never truly be equal. I'd always be a third wheel. Sadly hasn't ended well. I would say that making you feel like a third wheel is bad form on the couple in question That's the key isn't it. We have been together 23 years. How do you convince a potential 3rd that you are open to letting someone in further than sex. I would think you just have to 'date', enjoy each other's company, be open and see where you end up. They actually were very good friends. The female kept pestering and wouldn't take no for an answer, I ended up cutting all ties with both. Initially blocking them from all social media to. It makes me sad as I've lost two good friends, unfortunately her behaviour ruined that. " That's a shame. Surely something so that can be very complex and involves everyone's emotions needs to be done at a pace everyone is happy and comfortable with. Once pressure starts being applied it's always going to result in game over or someone ending up deeply unhappy. | |||
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"Now I know that not everyone on here either gets/interested/agrees with the Poly life style and i get that and its totally okay as its down to choice in the end. But what I have found is this lifestyle opens up the experiences and dynamics to people that may start them considering if poly maybe something worth exploring. I have been asked a number of times about the benefits and negatives of living a poly lifestyle. Now I am not saying I am the guru of all knowledge but i have had both good and bad experiences of poly and wanted to share what I have learnt. Let’s start off with all the good parts of Polyamory. Now these may not be in all oly relationships but is generally what I have found. 1. Open Communication For poly to work you must have amazing two way communication skills. Poly households need to be able to discuss alot of difficult topics. You need to discuss your relationship dynamics, comfort levels and jealousy. You need to discuss your boundaries and your emotions, which is a great exercise of communication. It can really let you open up about your desires and feelings and learn about the needs of your partner or partners. 2. Cheating/affairs If you’re open to each other, then you get to be intimate with other people without the damage cheating/affairs can have on a couple. Now i am not saying it can not occur as if couples have set boundaries to their poly relationship and these are broken then cheating can occur. 3. Exploring different dynamics and sexuallity. Being intimate with more than one person can lead to you being able to exlore all sides of you kink dynamics and your sexuality. It also means that you have more than 1 person to share your life eith opening up an enviroment thar allows you to explore more facets of life. You share lives not just sex. 4. Support and personal growth The more people you have close to you, the more loving support you hace within your life. This can include additional emotional support, physical support and practical support. There is a Polyamory theory that the more you are loved, the more you are able to accept love, which in turn makes you a better support system for those around you. That can’t be a bad thing can it ? So now lets look at some of the negatives that come with a pily lifestyle. 1. Jealousy Now this is one I always struggled with, i have never really felt or understood jealousy and its something I have had to learn to deal with in others. At one point i was very silly to assume well your poly you should not be jealous. But thats not true I now understand that people can be in a poly relationship and be jealous. Its how they deal with the jealousy that is the key factor. In order for the relationships to be successful, you need to be comfortable talking about jealousy and finding ways to solve issues. Ifyou dont do that like in any monogamous relationship it can tear the relationship apart and leave a sea of broken hearts. 2. Juggling time. Life can get really busy, so making sure everyone gets time is a must. And to be honest this is one of the hardest parts of being poly. I always joke that this is easy fir me as I have a Boo, and she is the Poly PA for the house od pest lol. But you have to keep in mind sometimes its possible that one person may need more attention than the other, and there needs to be a way to balance everything so no one gets left out. To be honest normally fir us its the core relationship of Boo and Me that sacrifice time to make sure everyone gets the time they need. 3. The stigma Polyamory is not widely socially acceptable. I have had people say to me in the past that I can not love Boo if I have someone else. That its really just fucking around, that im cheatimg and Boo can not be accepting of this behaviour. Its seen in a bad light by many. So in many poly groups its kept secret from their friends and family. 4. Baggage If you are not in a good point in your core relationship and you are trying poly to try and fix your issues then its not going to work. The core has to be strong for poly to work or you end up with unhappy partners. Also the core is taking on the baggage that comes with most people now over the age of 20 lol. This canput strain on the other relationship specially in the early stages 5. The ugly Poly will always be used by those that are hidding their lifestyle from their partners as an excuse to screw around. This is not poly this is not open relationship this cheating . Now the above is just a general observation from myself and my poly journey. Now what I can say is that i have met some wonderful people and experienced alot of life adventures with them. I have learnt alot about myself as well, there has also been heartbreak, tears and alot of stress on the way but I will stand by my poly lifesyle and look forward to all it brings" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Speaking from recent experience.....please bare in mind that the '3rd' may get jealous of your base relationship and do anything in their power to break you up, worming their way in and knowing what will hurt you the most...you both need to be strong enough to withstand that jealousy. Hope it works out for you x ![]() Being lied to and told someone is infertile before falling pregnant is hardly being jealous or worming my way in!! STOP TELLING LIES publicly idiot!! | |||
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"Speaking from recent experience.....please bare in mind that the '3rd' may get jealous of your base relationship and do anything in their power to break you up, worming their way in and knowing what will hurt you the most...you both need to be strong enough to withstand that jealousy. Hope it works out for you x ![]() Some people call having bareback sex with anyone and everyone 'Poly' too. As long as it has a label I guess.....but then what do I know? I look like ''a bulldog chewing a wasp'' Maybe there was a bad smell or something.....? | |||
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"The word "poly" has been. Misappropriated by idiot men who think that label will get them laid. Polyamory is about multiple, meaningful, serious relationships with the knowledge and consent of all involved. " I agree! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Relationship goals ![]() In my considerable experience, most poly folk eschew relationship goals and reject the "relationship escalator". Polyamory is not about setting targets like "i want two girlfriends" or "i want a boyfriend and a wife". | |||
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" Polyamory is not about setting targets like "i want two girlfriends" or "i want a boyfriend and a wife". " It can be. If you're seeing one person, and they have other partners so you don't see them all that's often, there's nothing wrong with thinking 'I'd like a second partner' and trying to make that happen. The whole point of poly is there's many ways to do it. Statements about what poly is or isn't don't tend to be ver helpful. | |||
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"Some people call having bareback sex with anyone and everyone 'Poly' too. As long as it has a label I guess.....but then what do I know? I look like ''a bulldog chewing a wasp'' Maybe there was a bad smell or something.....? " Cath if thats your opinion on poly then I really feel sorry for you. Poly is not about bareback sex it’s about multiple relationships. But each to their own i guess. | |||
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"Relationship goals ![]() I happen to be the organiser of the world's biggest one day conference on polyamory, the organiser of the longest running poly social meets in the UK. Rhe attitude that multiple partners is a "relationship goal" will go down like a lead balloon in the poly community. | |||
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" Cath if thats your opinion on poly then I really feel sorry for you. Poly is not about bareback sex it’s about multiple relationships. But each to their own i guess. " The word "poly" has been misappropriated by some men who use it as an way to wile their wsy into women's knickers. | |||
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"Some people call having bareback sex with anyone and everyone 'Poly' too. As long as it has a label I guess.....but then what do I know? I look like ''a bulldog chewing a wasp'' Maybe there was a bad smell or something.....? Cath if thats your opinion on poly then I really feel sorry for you. Poly is not about bareback sex it’s about multiple relationships. But each to their own i guess. " Mark, thank you for validating my comment. I really needed you to do that and I soooooo need YOU to pity ME. And yes, each to their own. Peace! | |||
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"Relationship goals ![]() Is there an actual conference? That's amazing. Education is always needed in all walks of life. Then maybe 'Poly' wouldn't be misinterpreted do much. I am certainly NOT the most educated person so am always willing to learn about different subjects, especially those that are interesting to me. Not being 'Poly' and having no desire to be either but knowing the rules and guidelines and how different people feel about it would be quite interesting. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"In my 15 years of ethical non-monogamy and decade of poly, i have used condoms with everyone bar my legal wife. Though we are discussing fluid bonding with my handfasted wife. Generally, polyamorous people are among the most responsible around because we communicate and discuss things most people don't. There are exceptions of course but most swingers are also responsible. " This is such an eye opener for me! Is using protection in a Poly relationship common then? | |||
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"Yeah I'd say so. In my time swinging and being Poly ive ALWAYS used protection unless its been agreed with a fwb that were exclusive to each other and thats only after getting a negative test each. " Same as me and my OH. When we became a couple we had tests for everything before not using protection with each other. And we ALWAYS use protection with others. NO EXCEPTIONS EVER. | |||
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" This is such an eye opener for me! Is using protection in a Poly relationship common then? " It is very much the norm to use protection unless its a closed gre(known as poky-fidelity). The more people in a "polycule" who don't use condoms with each other, the greater the risk. It rises exponentially. If I have two romantic partners and heve sex with both.... They both have two other partners, I have a couple of "intimate friends"... They have other partners... It only makes sense for us to be very careful who we have unprotected sex with. Communication helps inform the decision. I know who my partners are having sex with, and who *they* are having sex with... And can assess the risks if fluid bonding is suggested. Its only now I'm handfasted to a partner who I believe will last our lifetimes that it's even under discussion. | |||
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" This is such an eye opener for me! Is using protection in a Poly relationship common then? It is very much the norm to use protection unless its a closed gre(known as poky-fidelity). The more people in a "polycule" who don't use condoms with each other, the greater the risk. It rises exponentially. If I have two romantic partners and heve sex with both.... They both have two other partners, I have a couple of "intimate friends"... They have other partners... It only makes sense for us to be very careful who we have unprotected sex with. Communication helps inform the decision. I know who my partners are having sex with, and who *they* are having sex with... And can assess the risks if fluid bonding is suggested. Its only now I'm handfasted to a partner who I believe will last our lifetimes that it's even under discussion. " And if your legal wife doesn't agree would you push the subject or leave it? Sorry if that's a stupid or intrusive question. If you don't want to answer it here then don't. Xx | |||
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"In my 15 years of ethical non-monogamy and decade of poly, i have used condoms with everyone bar my legal wife. Though we are discussing fluid bonding with my handfasted wife. Generally, polyamorous people are among the most responsible around because we communicate and discuss things most people don't. There are exceptions of course but most swingers are also responsible. " That's the way I believe it should be. Clearly anyone who catches an STD from elsewhere and/or becomes a daddy elsewhere isn't using protection. Do you think such a person should be claiming to be an expert on polyamory and preaching honesty? I'm not sure about that. I think there is a distinct difference between loving more than one person and screwing everything that moves. | |||
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" And if your legal wife doesn't agree would you push the subject or leave it? Sorry if that's a stupid or intrusive question. If you don't want to answer it here then don't. Xx " Nobody will change anything until everyone agrees. We've been discussing it on and off for months. Sexual safety is something we take seriously. I don't know anyone in the poly community who is any different. | |||
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"I meant to type -- closed poly group (known as poly-fidelity) To further explain, when my wife and I first got together nearly 22 years ago we used condoms. When we became engaged we ceased condom use, but decided to use condoms with everyone else we have sex with. Only now that I am in a poly relationship which we consider another marriage is the subject of not using condoms with someone else coming up. I've been tested, my handfasted wife has been tested, her nesting husband has been tested, her other partner has been tested. Her nesting hubby isn't seeing anyone else, and rarely does. Her other partner is 100% trustworthy. So the risk factor is quite low, but still worth considering. In a "polycule" which literally stretches across the world we must be careful. For example I regularly have fun with a lady who has four partners, one of whom lives in the USA. Each of those four has at least one other partner...each of those has other partners....if you draw it out, it looks like a giant molecule - hence "polycule". We'd be utterly irresponsible if condom use was not the norm. " Wow. This is really interesting. I always think about the people one has sex with and the people THEY have had sex with and so on. But to my shame I thought that those in a serious poly relationship may not use protection as they see their partners as their partners, if you understand me? Lol. It's great the hear about REAL Poly people and not just those who shag around unprotected and damage lives in their wake. | |||
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"In my 15 years of ethical non-monogamy and decade of poly, i have used condoms with everyone bar my legal wife. Though we are discussing fluid bonding with my handfasted wife. Generally, polyamorous people are among the most responsible around because we communicate and discuss things most people don't. There are exceptions of course but most swingers are also responsible. That's the way I believe it should be. Clearly anyone who catches an STD from elsewhere and/or becomes a daddy elsewhere isn't using protection. Do you think such a person should be claiming to be an expert on polyamory and preaching honesty? I'm not sure about that. I think there is a distinct difference between loving more than one person and screwing everything that moves." Who are you referring to? I think the key is if everyone knows what's going on. If they all do then ok, but id they dont... thats not what polyamoury is about | |||
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"In my 15 years of ethical non-monogamy and decade of poly, i have used condoms with everyone bar my legal wife. Though we are discussing fluid bonding with my handfasted wife. Generally, polyamorous people are among the most responsible around because we communicate and discuss things most people don't. There are exceptions of course but most swingers are also responsible. That's the way I believe it should be. Clearly anyone who catches an STD from elsewhere and/or becomes a daddy elsewhere isn't using protection. Do you think such a person should be claiming to be an expert on polyamory and preaching honesty? I'm not sure about that. I think there is a distinct difference between loving more than one person and screwing everything that moves. Who are you referring to? I think the key is if everyone knows what's going on. If they all do then ok, but id they dont... thats not what polyamoury is about" I'm referring to those people in the swinging community who refer to themselves as 'polyamorous' but their behaviour is no different to any other swinger. I think genuine polyamory is a beautiful thing but I also believe some people use it as a license to be reckless, thoughtless and selfish. | |||
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" I'm referring to those people in the swinging community who refer to themselves as 'polyamorous' but their behaviour is no different to any other swinger. I think genuine polyamory is a beautiful thing but I also believe some people use it as a license to be reckless, thoughtless and selfish. " The word "polyamory" has been hijacked by some men who probably see that poly is considered to be quite fashionable in some circles. By saying "Hey, I'm poly"...they hope to have sex with multiple women. But you and I know that's not what polyamory is about at all. | |||
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"Someone has a bee in their bonnet about bareback sex. The people In my relationship only have protected sex. We use condoms. Plus we get tested regularly and really do not want any more children. You always get w*nkers ruining things whatever your relationship prefetance is. " Just to be clear I have no problem with barebacking per se. If a person believes that the pleasure of unprotected sex is worth the risk of contracting a potentially fatal and incurable disease then that is their decision. However putting someone else at risk without their knowledge and consent is completely different concept. | |||
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"I meant to type -- closed poly group (known as poly-fidelity) To further explain, when my wife and I first got together nearly 22 years ago we used condoms. When we became engaged we ceased condom use, but decided to use condoms with everyone else we have sex with. Only now that I am in a poly relationship which we consider another marriage is the subject of not using condoms with someone else coming up. I've been tested, my handfasted wife has been tested, her nesting husband has been tested, her other partner has been tested. Her nesting hubby isn't seeing anyone else, and rarely does. Her other partner is 100% trustworthy. So the risk factor is quite low, but still worth considering. In a "polycule" which literally stretches across the world we must be careful. For example I regularly have fun with a lady who has four partners, one of whom lives in the USA. Each of those four has at least one other partner...each of those has other partners....if you draw it out, it looks like a giant molecule - hence "polycule". We'd be utterly irresponsible if condom use was not the norm. Wow. This is really interesting. I always think about the people one has sex with and the people THEY have had sex with and so on. But to my shame I thought that those in a serious poly relationship may not use protection as they see their partners as their partners, if you understand me? Lol. It's great the hear about REAL Poly people and not just those who shag around unprotected and damage lives in their wake. " You know that there are monogamous couples who still use condoms right? Using condoms doesn't distinguish if someone is a partner or not. Personally I'm fluid bonded with my partner of three years and use condoms with others as currently no others have lasted more than 6 months. I know others who have more than one relationship of multiple years. Some use condoms for all sex with all partners. Some are fluid bonded with more than one long term partner but condoms are used for all other partners. Some are fluid bonded with one partner and use condoms with another long term partner. As with monogamous relationships or swingers it's all down to communication and agreement between partners as well as open honesty about any sexual activity outside the fluid bonded relationship. It's totally possible to be fluid bonded with more than one partner with no risk of STIs if they are all clear from STIs when entering the relationship and are not having sex with any other partners. Obviously the more fluid bonding that occurs, the higher the risk. As with monogamous relationships there is always the risk that someone may not be entirely honest about sexual activity outside the relationship. Therefore fluid bonding always requires trust. There's an additional element with Poly as you also have to consider the knock on effect on other partners and partner's partners. Its certainly not something to be taken lightly. As has been mentioned above, as a result Poly people tend to be more responsible than average with their sexual health. I get tested every 4 months even with using condoms with other partners as nothing is garunteed. | |||
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"The poly people i know with kids tell them in age appropriate ways. Younger kids might be told that mummy or daddy has their friend staying over or is out with them. As kids get older, they're told about poly and have any questions answered. Usually for the kids it means more caring adults around the house. " This! I have recently come out of a ‘thouple’ of 6 years. My husband and I were together for nearly 10 years before I committed to an extra relationship. I think some would refer to my husband and I as a ‘nesting’ couple. Our kids didn’t know any different either and my lover presented very easily as a close family friend. If we hadn’t become romantically unlinked (still friends) then we would have told them once we were confident that they had learnt enough about how to function in our conventional society before we gave them anything more complicated to deal with. That’s just how we did it. | |||
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"Try not to go into it with any expectations. Have fun and see what develops. Its a scary place for us single ladies. Clubs are good places to meet. Less threatening for us singles and a good social atmosphere anyway xx" Absolutely we are regular club goers. Fully understand exactly what you are saying... | |||
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"Would it be classed as polyamory if it was just 1 in a relationship with 2 people or would it have to be all 3+ ?" What do you mean? I'm 1 lady in a relationship with 2 people who are married to each other. We all know about each other and only play together. Mainly we're awesome friends. If you're just having 2 seperate relationships at once it depends if they know about each other I guess. If not then you're just cheating, if they know and are happy then its polyamoury. | |||
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"I mean, say a woman is in relationship with 2 guys, both guys know about it but the guys not in a relationship with each other then would it still be classed as Poly, and no, no cheating." Absolutely. That's basically my situation right now. 3 years with one, 6 months seeing another. My partner of three years is also seeing someone else and has recently had a break up with another. If anything triads are less common within Poly. | |||
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"This thread has almost confused me and I'm not sure why ... maybe because it's being implied that multiple sexual partners is poly whereas I've always thought it meant having actual relationship/s! Huge differences between FB, FWB & Poly I thought ![]() You are correct, polyamory is defined as multiple meaningful, romantic relationships with the knowledge and consent of all involved. However there are men around misusing the word. | |||
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"This thread has almost confused me and I'm not sure why ... maybe because it's being implied that multiple sexual partners is poly whereas I've always thought it meant having actual relationship/s! Huge differences between FB, FWB & Poly I thought ![]() Not just men ![]() | |||
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"This thread has almost confused me and I'm not sure why ... maybe because it's being implied that multiple sexual partners is poly whereas I've always thought it meant having actual relationship/s! Huge differences between FB, FWB & Poly I thought ![]() There's an umbrella term - ethical non-monogamy. Basically the emphasis is on openess, honesty and communication. There's also something called relationship anarchy where people believe that things are more complex than defined boxes of relationship, friend, friend with benefits, etc. To be honest this is something I relate to. | |||
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"The word "poly" has been. Misappropriated by idiot men who think that label will get them laid. Polyamory is about multiple, meaningful, serious relationships with the knowledge and consent of all involved. " This. ![]() | |||
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"All relationship means is "the way in which two or more people or things are connected, or the state of being connected." People assume it means emotions but it never has! Just use the word as it's meant to be and saves on lots of labelling that just gets confusing for oldies like me!! ![]() ![]() ![]() Exactly. I use the term ‘relationship’ regardless of whether I’m talking about my sister, my friends, sexual partners or romantic partners. | |||
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"You don't have to live together to be in a poly relationship, and you all don't have to be on equal footings. Other than the label and a pledge to be monogamous, there's no actual difference between friends and people in a relationship. Take away the monogamy rule and you can say that you're in a relationship with all your friends. loads of profiles on fab state that they are looking for people they can be friends with and fuck on a regular basis - they're basically poly without knowing it." Yes, that makes sense. | |||
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"Meet not eat on my post above! " Eat works too ![]() | |||
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"Meet not eat on my post above! " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"This thread has almost confused me and I'm not sure why ... maybe because it's being implied that multiple sexual partners is poly whereas I've always thought it meant having actual relationship/s! Huge differences between FB, FWB & Poly I thought ![]() I am a relationship anarchist ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Are there many poly throuples on here? It's something we have been talking about a lot recently and we are curious if we could make it work. Something we are open to exploring with a bi single lady who was also open to the idea. Any throuples making it work? Or does it usually end in disaster? For those that are successful how did you make it successful? What works for you? Any single ladies intrigued by the idea?" My wife has an FWB (I love hearing about it after!). It's really brought a different angle to our relationship. So much so that now I'm starting to look for something similar. Is it something you've tried before or is it totally new?? | |||
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"Are there many poly throuples on here? It's something we have been talking about a lot recently and we are curious if we could make it work. Something we are open to exploring with a bi single lady who was also open to the idea. Any throuples making it work? Or does it usually end in disaster? For those that are successful how did you make it successful? What works for you? Any single ladies intrigued by the idea? My wife has an FWB (I love hearing about it after!). It's really brought a different angle to our relationship. So much so that now I'm starting to look for something similar. Is it something you've tried before or is it totally new??" We have had some experience but we never let things go beyond a okay partner. At the time we were less experienced and have learnt through that experience and others. Now... with the right person we are open to taking it that step further and letting a relationship form rather than just a purely swinging experience. | |||
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"I've encountered people who are, have freinds who and freinds of freinds who are. My experience (from an outsider) is it's really rough going and often doesn't work out, or at least as originally planned. Although it depends what you want long term relationships wise. It adds a lot of fluidity to relationships and you may go through life gaining and also losing partners through it, including your current one. So something to think about if you intend to spend your life with your current partner. Also a lot depends if you want to go through life as sort of free agent or to combine forces and resourses with a partner or partners as this can be complicated especially if it ends badly. It may work for some people but from what I can see it often results in lots of hurt. A lot depends on what sort of person you are and on if you want life long relationship continuity or an ever evolving and changing relationship life with people coming in and out. Also these relationships often see people more up and down in relationship status in the group. This can be very hard for people, especially if they move down for a level they thought was concrete. Think carefully about it." Well said | |||
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