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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interested to hear more about this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s just because some people pre-judge others based on inaccurate stereotypes of one characteristic. I think that the old fashioned media portrayals of all gay men being effeminate really took root in some people’s minds. It’s just inexperience of the reality of a wide range of people, like any prejudice.

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By *haron4465TV/TS
over a year ago

HULL

Well said op being bi doesn’t make you any less a man nor does being a cd I enjoy being with a female and also enjoy time with a guy. It’s a part of who I am and deep down it’s within my dna I didn’t just decide I was bi I think I was born this way

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By *haverMan
over a year ago

bracknell

Yes its amazing that people cant grasp the concept that someone can have equal desires towards male and female they seem to think you should be one or the other and also that if you dont think like them then you are open to discrimination even from our gay and lesbian freinds similar to the situation where people of different races fight for equality then discriminate against gay people of their race

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

We don't meet bi guys at all, but is it wrong for someone to be curious and ask questions?

It's seen as more common for women to be bisexual than men, and I'm not sure if this is the case but we have certainly met more women that are bi than men.

The reason that the sexes are treated differently in this is that quite simply, they are different. On a biological level they are very different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think a lot of this prejudice is also due to modern porn and the portrayal of the bi female as the ultimate male fantasy. Rightly or wrongly it influences how people think.

I find two attractive men kissing quite a turn on but anything beyond that does nothing for me although I'm bi-curious myself. I don't see them as any less of a man though. Just not sexually arousing.

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By *onnie And Clyde9070Couple
over a year ago

Leeds

As has been said many times over, accept people's preferences and move on. You can't change something you have no control over so why let it eat away at you under the belief it's a personal thing.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We don't meet bi guys at all, but is it wrong for someone to be curious and ask questions?

It's seen as more common for women to be bisexual than men, and I'm not sure if this is the case but we have certainly met more women that are bi than men.

The reason that the sexes are treated differently in this is that quite simply, they are different. On a biological level they are very different."

It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning.

That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. "

We have never encountered this at all don't recall any of our single bi male friends mentioning it either...are you possibly being sensitive because people's preferences exclude you?

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

I love bi men and meet them .... never ask any questions of them etc .... and as a bi woman think I’ve only been asked once about my preference re males and females x

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

We have never encountered this at all don't recall any of our single bi male friends mentioning it either...are you possibly being sensitive because people's preferences exclude you?"

Perhaps the enquirer was a blood donor?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

We have never encountered this at all don't recall any of our single bi male friends mentioning it either...are you possibly being sensitive because people's preferences exclude you?"

I actually encountered this last night on a proper night out, from a straight girl who didn't have any time for me until she found out I was bi from my friend and suddenly was sticking to me the rest of the night because in her own words "oh you're bi, but you surely must prefer guys over girls then!"

I'm not being sensitive about people's preferences excluding me on here. Been on long enough to know a thing or two about such stuff on Fab anyway.

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By *essica jamiesonWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh

Not gonna lie id never entertain a bi man i do feel hes not as masculine! But thats me we all have our personal views

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really

What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown


"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning.

That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply. "

I was always told that there are no wrong questions!

So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw.

So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way.

Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really

What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back "

That's perfectly logical. You're not okay with cheaters. You'll find many on here would share that sentiment!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

We have never encountered this at all don't recall any of our single bi male friends mentioning it either...are you possibly being sensitive because people's preferences exclude you?

I actually encountered this last night on a proper night out, from a straight girl who didn't have any time for me until she found out I was bi from my friend and suddenly was sticking to me the rest of the night because in her own words "oh you're bi, but you surely must prefer guys over girls then!"

I'm not being sensitive about people's preferences excluding me on here. Been on long enough to know a thing or two about such stuff on Fab anyway. "

clearly she was a fuckwit...ignorance is rife and people are stupid. Maybe it's an age thing but I have no tolerance for people like that and wouldn't waste my time allowing them to inhabit my space...but then that's probably just me...

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By *hell and jCouple
over a year ago

doncaster

Well I shell don't label people xx bi gay tv xx it's not everone up off tea xxx I'm bi had years ago a 3some with 2 bi guys mmmnn hottest thing ever xxx just past the negative people by and be yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. "

Some women just don’t want to meet bi guys. Their choice. I’ve been asked loads of times if I prefer men to women so it’s not just men who get asked.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning.

That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply.

I was always told that there are no wrong questions!

So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw.

So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way.

Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind.

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Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?"

Not sure who you're calling entitled here though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you are bisexual there is twice the opportunity for fun and the boring hets don't like people having more fun than them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really

What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back

That's perfectly logical. You're not okay with cheaters. You'll find many on here would share that sentiment! "

More not ok with liars to be honest!

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown

It's a question, and a harmless one at that. Do you have a preference either way? Some people do, some people don't. I know a number of bi women who say they prefer men if they had to choose.

You complain that women only want to give you there time if they see you a certain way, this implies they should give you their time no matter how they see you, otherwise there would be no complaint. This is an entitled opinion.

I'm not trying to insult or annoy, as I say we don't consider bi guys for a meet but we have nothing against any sexuality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning.

That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply.

I was always told that there are no wrong questions!

So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw.

So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way.

Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind.

Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?"

Not sure who you're calling entitled here though. "

This is why I hate labels and I refuse to be labelled. Just be what you are, why do you have to explain yourself to anyone? I much prefer men, every now and then I’ll have fun with a woman, not sure whether that makes me properly bi or not and to be honest I’m not even that bothered what it makes me.

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By *ortadowncplCouple
over a year ago

Portadown


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This is why I hate labels and I refuse to be labelled. Just be what you are, why do you have to explain yourself to anyone? I much prefer men, every now and then I’ll have fun with a woman, not sure whether that makes me properly bi or not and to be honest I’m not even that bothered what it makes me. "

I agree, but do you get overly offended when you bring up your sexuality and people ask, do you have a preference either way?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning.

That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply.

I was always told that there are no wrong questions!

So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw.

So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way.

Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind.

Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?"

Not sure who you're calling entitled here though.

This is why I hate labels and I refuse to be labelled. Just be what you are, why do you have to explain yourself to anyone? I much prefer men, every now and then I’ll have fun with a woman, not sure whether that makes me properly bi or not and to be honest I’m not even that bothered what it makes me. "

I'm the same mind as you to be honest. Don't like labels never have. See above in one of my comments I explained why I wrote this thread today. It was because of something that happened last night.

Usually I never out myself to anyone outside of Fab. Who I do stuff with isn't something to be public gossip material in real life!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning.

That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply.

I was always told that there are no wrong questions!

So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw.

So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way.

Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind.

Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?"

Not sure who you're calling entitled here though.

This is why I hate labels and I refuse to be labelled. Just be what you are, why do you have to explain yourself to anyone? I much prefer men, every now and then I’ll have fun with a woman, not sure whether that makes me properly bi or not and to be honest I’m not even that bothered what it makes me.

I'm the same mind as you to be honest. Don't like labels never have. See above in one of my comments I explained why I wrote this thread today. It was because of something that happened last night.

Usually I never out myself to anyone outside of Fab. Who I do stuff with isn't something to be public gossip material in real life! "

To be honest I didn’t read all the thread. But I agree. Nobody on here knows anything about my personal life and nobody in my personal life knows anything about here! None of it is anyone’s business as far as I’m concerned. From what I’ve seen on here though there’s a large amount of women who love bi men. What I don’t like though is when someone wants you because you are a particular “thing” for example the thrill of a married woman, or the fact someone is bi etc. For me it’s more the person.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning.

That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply.

I was always told that there are no wrong questions!

So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw.

So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way.

Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind.

Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?"

Not sure who you're calling entitled here though.

This is why I hate labels and I refuse to be labelled. Just be what you are, why do you have to explain yourself to anyone? I much prefer men, every now and then I’ll have fun with a woman, not sure whether that makes me properly bi or not and to be honest I’m not even that bothered what it makes me.

I'm the same mind as you to be honest. Don't like labels never have. See above in one of my comments I explained why I wrote this thread today. It was because of something that happened last night.

Usually I never out myself to anyone outside of Fab. Who I do stuff with isn't something to be public gossip material in real life!

To be honest I didn’t read all the thread. But I agree. Nobody on here knows anything about my personal life and nobody in my personal life knows anything about here! None of it is anyone’s business as far as I’m concerned. From what I’ve seen on here though there’s a large amount of women who love bi men. What I don’t like though is when someone wants you because you are a particular “thing” for example the thrill of a married woman, or the fact someone is bi etc. For me it’s more the person. "

Thank you! I fully agree. But apparently some on here missed the point and are calling me entitled.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning.

That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply.

I was always told that there are no wrong questions!

So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw.

So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way.

Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind.

Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?"

Not sure who you're calling entitled here though.

This is why I hate labels and I refuse to be labelled. Just be what you are, why do you have to explain yourself to anyone? I much prefer men, every now and then I’ll have fun with a woman, not sure whether that makes me properly bi or not and to be honest I’m not even that bothered what it makes me.

I'm the same mind as you to be honest. Don't like labels never have. See above in one of my comments I explained why I wrote this thread today. It was because of something that happened last night.

Usually I never out myself to anyone outside of Fab. Who I do stuff with isn't something to be public gossip material in real life!

To be honest I didn’t read all the thread. But I agree. Nobody on here knows anything about my personal life and nobody in my personal life knows anything about here! None of it is anyone’s business as far as I’m concerned. From what I’ve seen on here though there’s a large amount of women who love bi men. What I don’t like though is when someone wants you because you are a particular “thing” for example the thrill of a married woman, or the fact someone is bi etc. For me it’s more the person.

Thank you! I fully agree. But apparently some on here missed the point and are calling me entitled. "

Oh get used to that!

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By *ndecidedMan
over a year ago

London

This is of of the great things about having this open forum, you can say how you feel without worrying tio much about being judged.

Sexualities come in all shades. I am bisexual; have played with men but if there was a sliding scale, I'd be 90% straight.

Some people don't like bi women, some don't like bi men, some don't want men.

Everyone has their own preference, not everyone's gonna match

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don’t know if this offers anything to the debate but we’re a straight couple who have been contacted by couples with a bi female. We have pointed out we are both straight and the couples have said that’s ok as the bi female prefers men anyway. It’s happened a few times without us asking so at least some bi people seem comfortable revealing a slight leaning toward one sex.

To us it’s like asking a guy do you prefer brunettes to blondes. There probably is a preference. Is it so bad to be asked the question?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm here because my preference is bi men and in my experience most of the men I've become friends with or met have been very alpha! It's like any preference you'll get both dominant and more submissive characters but it has no impact on 'manliness' it's a sad state of affairs when men avoid stating that they're bi for fear of being judged or written off.

Best experiences I've had are with bi men..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't meet bi guys at all, but is it wrong for someone to be curious and ask questions?"

Surely you mean you don't meet guys who state they are bi. I'd say that it is 100% likely you have met bi guys especially as you go dogging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who gives a fuck! Why let others determine how you feel about yourself.

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By *herbert fountainWoman
over a year ago

Hanley

I think the point that most are missing is that the OP was upset about the assumption that as a bi male he would prefer men over women. There is a difference between being asked which you prefer and being told 'so you must prefer guys over girls'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. "

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really

What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back "

WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's because on here men are looked at as scum dogs that will fuck anything.

Your just not going to win I'm afraid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' "

Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? "

No your not. Freedom of choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? "

My preference is straight men without a beard because I can’t stand beards and also feminine women. Do excuse my narrow mindedness

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me? "

What isn't for you, Bi guys?

What's the difference if they were straight or Bi..... I'm trying to understand that mind set and why it matters... I'm here to learn btw!

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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago

most fundamental aspects

There seem to be contradictions between those saying they don’t like labels, yet state a preference based on a label.

Sexuality is a scale. It is also in some respects, situationally dependant.

Let’s say a female meets a man one on one. That female is straight, the male is bi. That doesn’t mean it is any less enjoyable just because the male’s profile happened to say Bi. Vice versa, if a male meets a female who displays as being bi, is it going to somehow ruin the experience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me?

My preference is straight men without a beard because I can’t stand beards and also feminine women. Do excuse my narrow mindedness "

I'm not here for an argument, more trying to understand why the Bi-straight man matters. Interested in why it does for you!

I like bi and straight men with beards, even the tv/ts to be fair..... Embracing it all...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me?

What isn't for you, Bi guys?

What's the difference if they were straight or Bi..... I'm trying to understand that mind set and why it matters... I'm here to learn btw! "

No. I commented earlier. No problem with bi guys at all. Bi guys and me or watching 2 men together isn’t for me no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me?

My preference is straight men without a beard because I can’t stand beards and also feminine women. Do excuse my narrow mindedness

I'm not here for an argument, more trying to understand why the Bi-straight man matters. Interested in why it does for you!

I like bi and straight men with beards, even the tv/ts to be fair..... Embracing it all... "

No argument at all. Just took your comment as preference is narrow mindedness. If that’s the case I don’t agree. If I took it the wrong way then my apologies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me?

My preference is straight men without a beard because I can’t stand beards and also feminine women. Do excuse my narrow mindedness

I'm not here for an argument, more trying to understand why the Bi-straight man matters. Interested in why it does for you!

I like bi and straight men with beards, even the tv/ts to be fair..... Embracing it all...

No argument at all. Just took your comment as preference is narrow mindedness. If that’s the case I don’t agree. If I took it the wrong way then my apologies. "

Yes I stand by that.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm here because my preference is bi men and in my experience most of the men I've become friends with or met have been very alpha! It's like any preference you'll get both dominant and more submissive characters but it has no impact on 'manliness' it's a sad state of affairs when men avoid stating that they're bi for fear of being judged or written off.

Best experiences I've had are with bi men.. "

I was going to write something like this but you put it so much better than me. The bi guys we play with are very manly. Best way to play for us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me?

What isn't for you, Bi guys?

What's the difference if they were straight or Bi..... I'm trying to understand that mind set and why it matters... I'm here to learn btw!

No. I commented earlier. No problem with bi guys at all. Bi guys and me or watching 2 men together isn’t for me no. "

Pity I still can't get a reason why! Is it that bad you can't say?

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over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me?

My preference is straight men without a beard because I can’t stand beards and also feminine women. Do excuse my narrow mindedness

I'm not here for an argument, more trying to understand why the Bi-straight man matters. Interested in why it does for you!

I like bi and straight men with beards, even the tv/ts to be fair..... Embracing it all...

No argument at all. Just took your comment as preference is narrow mindedness. If that’s the case I don’t agree. If I took it the wrong way then my apologies.

Yes I stand by that..... "

You stand by preference equals narrow mindedness? Ok. Then we will agree to disagree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm here because my preference is bi men and in my experience most of the men I've become friends with or met have been very alpha! It's like any preference you'll get both dominant and more submissive characters but it has no impact on 'manliness' it's a sad state of affairs when men avoid stating that they're bi for fear of being judged or written off.

Best experiences I've had are with bi men..

I was going to write something like this but you put it so much better than me. The bi guys we play with are very manly. Best way to play for us "

I wrote something similar on a previous thread... The ladies don't know what they're missing!

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over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me?

What isn't for you, Bi guys?

What's the difference if they were straight or Bi..... I'm trying to understand that mind set and why it matters... I'm here to learn btw!

No. I commented earlier. No problem with bi guys at all. Bi guys and me or watching 2 men together isn’t for me no.

Pity I still can't get a reason why! Is it that bad you can't say? "

Seriously?? Is what that bad i can’t say? 2 men together doesn’t turn me on at all no! That’s my reason. Same as 2 women together wouldn’t turn a gay man on I wouldn’t have thought. This conversation is getting a bit ridiculous for me. Have a good day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me?

My preference is straight men without a beard because I can’t stand beards and also feminine women. Do excuse my narrow mindedness

I'm not here for an argument, more trying to understand why the Bi-straight man matters. Interested in why it does for you!

I like bi and straight men with beards, even the tv/ts to be fair..... Embracing it all...

No argument at all. Just took your comment as preference is narrow mindedness. If that’s the case I don’t agree. If I took it the wrong way then my apologies.

Yes I stand by that.....

You stand by preference equals narrow mindedness? Ok. Then we will agree to disagree. "

Can't see it being anything else... unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

Re name what preference? I don’t have anything negative to say about anyone’s sexuality. Am I narrow minded then if it’s not for me?

What isn't for you, Bi guys?

What's the difference if they were straight or Bi..... I'm trying to understand that mind set and why it matters... I'm here to learn btw!

No. I commented earlier. No problem with bi guys at all. Bi guys and me or watching 2 men together isn’t for me no.

Pity I still can't get a reason why! Is it that bad you can't say?

Seriously?? Is what that bad i can’t say? 2 men together doesn’t turn me on at all no! That’s my reason. Same as 2 women together wouldn’t turn a gay man on I wouldn’t have thought. This conversation is getting a bit ridiculous for me. Have a good day. "

Bi guys and YOU all my posts are referring too....

Didn't think it'll be a touchy subject to ask why! I'm still learning... Thank you for your time!

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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago

most fundamental aspects

To continue my illustration of the preference vs labels thing.

Now take a couple meeting a man. The female is bi (moot point) and so is the man. The added man may be bi but he needs to actually be attracted to both. Far from that being a ruse just to play with the woman, he is expressing his attraction or lack of.

Take the same example of that couple meeting the added man, who this time states he is straight. No one gets offended and if the added guy is “fab straight” and there is a mutual attraction, then where’s the harm?

I’ve been on the scene quite a while and had no interest in men. I was always comfortable being not the only cock in the room and my lack of judgement of others, whilst expressing a preference, earned me respect. Only fairly recently have I stated that I may be open to also play with men. However that doesn’t mean a blanket sweep of ALL men. It takes a lot for me to be attracted to a woman. It takes even more for me to be inclined to play with the man. Even then, I may be more amenable to play with the man an hour into the melee, than I would have imagined when I first spoke to the couple. Say in the social area of the club.

The point being that sexuality, attraction and preferences are all fluid and are all situationally dependent.

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over a year ago


"I'm here because my preference is bi men and in my experience most of the men I've become friends with or met have been very alpha! It's like any preference you'll get both dominant and more submissive characters but it has no impact on 'manliness' it's a sad state of affairs when men avoid stating that they're bi for fear of being judged or written off.

Best experiences I've had are with bi men..

I was going to write something like this but you put it so much better than me. The bi guys we play with are very manly. Best way to play for us "

Most definitely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I hate it when women state on their profiles that they want a 'real' man.

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By *hisismeXXXMan
over a year ago

Welsh Wales

Nobody who has ever met me, vanilla or swing, would ever consider me effeminate or 'not 100% man'. Those close to me would consider me sensitive and in touch with myself and others. I'm a rugby playing former forces man.

Emotionally I am only interested in women, have only ever been interested I having a relationship with women.

However, I have always been open minded and experimental (read a kinky bugger) and when it comes to having fun have always been willing to try new things. Hence, having tried a few mfm's I was never scared of close contact with other mens bits and, eventually, curiosity got the better of me. I've since found that it is more fun if those involved aren't worrying about who is touching /licking/sucking what.

I have never been interested in one to one man fun but would consider myself bi. I clearly prefer women and will happily play without male contact. I always play safe.

Ultimately anyone can label me how they choose. I know what I am and those I've played with do. That's all that matters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I hate it when women state on their profiles that they want a 'real' man. "

Why they have a choice don't they? Or would you deny people the ability to choose!

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By *hisismeXXXMan
over a year ago

Welsh Wales


"It's a question, and a harmless one at that. Do you have a preference either way? Some people do, some people don't. I know a number of bi women who say they prefer men if they had to choose.

You complain that women only want to give you there time if they see you a certain way, this implies they should give you their time no matter how they see you, otherwise there would be no complaint. This is an entitled opinion.

I'm not trying to insult or annoy, as I say we don't consider bi guys for a meet but we have nothing against any sexuality."

I can't see why anyone would have a potential meet asking about their preferences. Its no different to asking condom or no condom, come in mouth or on chest, missionary or doggy?

It's always better to ask that assume and get it wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I hate it when women state on their profiles that they want a 'real' man.

Why they have a choice don't they? Or would you deny people the ability to choose! "

What is a real man, someone who hammers up dry wall and takes the bins out ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nobody who has ever met me, vanilla or swing, would ever consider me effeminate or 'not 100% man'. Those close to me would consider me sensitive and in touch with myself and others. I'm a rugby playing former forces man.

Emotionally I am only interested in women, have only ever been interested I having a relationship with women.

However, I have always been open minded and experimental (read a kinky bugger) and when it comes to having fun have always been willing to try new things. Hence, having tried a few mfm's I was never scared of close contact with other mens bits and, eventually, curiosity got the better of me. I've since found that it is more fun if those involved aren't worrying about who is touching /licking/sucking what.

I have never been interested in one to one man fun but would consider myself bi. I clearly prefer women and will happily play without male contact. I always play safe.

Ultimately anyone can label me how they choose. I know what I am and those I've played with do. That's all that matters. "

This..

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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago

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"Personally I hate it when women state on their profiles that they want a 'real' man. "

Surely that’s a whole other discussion. A “real man” may be a misogynistic narrow minded homophobe, yet is sexually incapable of satisfying anyone. Yet what is often perceived as not being a “real man” because they are self aware and don’t Strutt down the street, may be a real Alpha in the bedroom.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Personally I hate it when women state on their profiles that they want a 'real' man.

Surely that’s a whole other discussion. A “real man” may be a misogynistic narrow minded homophobe, yet is sexually incapable of satisfying anyone. Yet what is often perceived as not being a “real man” because they are self aware and don’t Strutt down the street, may be a real Alpha in the bedroom. "

Love the way you put it. Thanks I fully agree!

And guys let's get back on track please.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely it’s personal to women why they don’t want to go with a bi- sexual man, they shouldn’t have to justify it. Sex is mostly played out in the head and if they’re not comfortable being with a bi sexual man, for whatever reason, then that’s there choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If someone turns me off I won't meet them. Doesn't matter what it is, once I'm turned off there's no going back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely it’s personal to women why they don’t want to go with a bi- sexual man, they shouldn’t have to justify it. Sex is mostly played out in the head and if they’re not comfortable being with a bi sexual man, for whatever reason, then that’s there choice.

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A lot of women won’t sleep with men who vote Tory, I’ve seen that on profiles too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference' "

I'm very narrow minded. I get even more narrow minded from reading threads like this where people slag off other people for not wanting to fuck someone.

It makes me sick when people try and shame others into fucking people that they don't want to.

No doubt somewhere on the thread people are being called homophobic for not wanting to fuck bi men.

If I don't want to fuck bi men it's because that's my choice. People can call me homophobic all they want - it wouldn't change my mind!!

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By *ananas2013Man
over a year ago

wolves


"If you are bisexual there is twice the opportunity for fun and the boring hets don't like people having more fun than them! "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

I'm very narrow minded. I get even more narrow minded from reading threads like this where people slag off other people for not wanting to fuck someone.

It makes me sick when people try and shame others into fucking people that they don't want to.

No doubt somewhere on the thread people are being called homophobic for not wanting to fuck bi men.

If I don't want to fuck bi men it's because that's my choice. People can call me homophobic all they want - it wouldn't change my mind!!"

If anyone is doing that shaming it's definitely not me. Feel free to take your diatribe elsewhere. I've had enough people like yourself coming in on a totally different tangent spoiling for an argument on a thread that isn't yours to begin with.

Thanks. Now can we please get back to topic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

I'm very narrow minded. I get even more narrow minded from reading threads like this where people slag off other people for not wanting to fuck someone.

It makes me sick when people try and shame others into fucking people that they don't want to.

No doubt somewhere on the thread people are being called homophobic for not wanting to fuck bi men.

If I don't want to fuck bi men it's because that's my choice. People can call me homophobic all they want - it wouldn't change my mind!!"

It’s not homophobic though. Neither is it narrow mindedness. That’s why I gave up on the whole conversation. If people think like that there’s no reasoning with them and it’s really not worth my time. I honestly despair at some of the things I see on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

I'm very narrow minded. I get even more narrow minded from reading threads like this where people slag off other people for not wanting to fuck someone.

It makes me sick when people try and shame others into fucking people that they don't want to.

No doubt somewhere on the thread people are being called homophobic for not wanting to fuck bi men.

If I don't want to fuck bi men it's because that's my choice. People can call me homophobic all they want - it wouldn't change my mind!!

If anyone is doing that shaming it's definitely not me. Feel free to take your diatribe elsewhere. I've had enough people like yourself coming in on a totally different tangent spoiling for an argument on a thread that isn't yours to begin with.

Thanks. Now can we please get back to topic? "

Sorry I just replied to that. I’m off now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol

I've gotta stop asking sensitive question. Im just a nosey bugger!

Hopefully no major harm done!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

I love Bi men...

I don't have anything negative to say about anyone's sexuality x

Its all fabulous to me!

I pity the narrow minded folk of the world - who re-name it 'preference'

I'm very narrow minded. I get even more narrow minded from reading threads like this where people slag off other people for not wanting to fuck someone.

It makes me sick when people try and shame others into fucking people that they don't want to.

No doubt somewhere on the thread people are being called homophobic for not wanting to fuck bi men.

If I don't want to fuck bi men it's because that's my choice. People can call me homophobic all they want - it wouldn't change my mind!!

If anyone is doing that shaming it's definitely not me. Feel free to take your diatribe elsewhere. I've had enough people like yourself coming in on a totally different tangent spoiling for an argument on a thread that isn't yours to begin with.

Thanks. Now can we please get back to topic? "

Your reaction tells me everything I need to know about you and your type. I apologise to the bottom of my heart for having an opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it.

I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why!

No problem! No drama!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it.

I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why!

No problem! No drama!

"

Sorry it was a comment from things that have been said on previous threads. I didn't mean you'd inferred that. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it.

I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why!

No problem! No drama!

Sorry it was a comment from things that have been said on previous threads. I didn't mean you'd inferred that. x"

Thank you x

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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago

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I was the one who mentioned homophobia. However it was in a completely different context and was explained as such in my post.

If someone,during a debate, acknowledges that they have not been listening to the opposing side of a debate Then they do themselves and the debate as a whole, a disservice

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Your reaction tells me everything I need to know about you and your type. I apologise to the bottom of my heart for having an opinion. "

Me and my type? ME AND MY TYPE?! What about it?!

Reading through my entire starting questions for this thread, NOTHING has been mentioned about how I as a bisexual single male am giving shit to others like you and YOUR TYPE for not choosing to fuck us because you don't like bi guys. All I asked was why is it that some girls on Fab or in real life only find it in themselves to interact with or be interested in bisexual men only after they say they're more inclined towards men? That's the basis of why I didn't like it when for example last night this random straight girl at a club who didn't have time of the day for me or my friend initially suddenly couldn't peel herself off me on the dance floor after finding out from my friend that I'm bi, simply because she thought automatically that just because I'm a bi man it means I'm going to be more into men then women? And before anyone accuses me of jumping to conclusions, she asked me repeatedly "so you're bi, but you must prefer men more than women right?"

And the second question was pertaining to how some people in real life as well as on Fab that I've encountered have the perception that a bisexual man must somehow be less masculine simply because they probably have given oral or received anal from another guy?

AT NO POINT WAS IT MENTIONED BY ME THAT I WAS UNHAPPY ABOUT NOT GETTING ANY FUN FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO BE WITH BISEXUAL MEN. I'M NOT ENTITLED. NOBODY IS. I wouldn't push my luck with a profile on here that said "NO BI MALES". I'm not an idiot. I don't know at which point in this whole thread this whole argument started about people supposedly bashing folks who aren't open towards getting into bed with bisexual people came about. But I didn't start it. If you have problems with that go find whoever wrote that on my thread first and take your arguments there.

In the meantime, please stay on topic!

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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago

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The OP was quite clear in asking about why bisexuality is in some way construed as automatically preferring one over another.

My profile tries to explain why I state that I label myself as Bi Curious. However computer (and some users’) filters do not yet have the ability to interpret syntax and semantics.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think that this just reflects 2 things -

1. A bias against bi guys in swinging

2. General ignorance about bisexuality, from society and also here.

People find black and white binary choice options easier to understand than aspects of personality that are complex and they almost insist on forcing people into the binary trap they create in their limited minds perspective.

Many more men than those who publicly acknowledge some bi in themselves definitely have this potential but are inhibited in large part by negativity towards men who have sex with men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Your reaction tells me everything I need to know about you and your type. I apologise to the bottom of my heart for having an opinion.

Me and my type? ME AND MY TYPE?! What about it?!

Reading through my entire starting questions for this thread, NOTHING has been mentioned about how I as a bisexual single male am giving shit to others like you and YOUR TYPE for not choosing to fuck us because you don't like bi guys. All I asked was why is it that some girls on Fab or in real life only find it in themselves to interact with or be interested in bisexual men only after they say they're more inclined towards men? That's the basis of why I didn't like it when for example last night this random straight girl at a club who didn't have time of the day for me or my friend initially suddenly couldn't peel herself off me on the dance floor after finding out from my friend that I'm bi, simply because she thought automatically that just because I'm a bi man it means I'm going to be more into men then women? And before anyone accuses me of jumping to conclusions, she asked me repeatedly "so you're bi, but you must prefer men more than women right?"

And the second question was pertaining to how some people in real life as well as on Fab that I've encountered have the perception that a bisexual man must somehow be less masculine simply because they probably have given oral or received anal from another guy?

AT NO POINT WAS IT MENTIONED BY ME THAT I WAS UNHAPPY ABOUT NOT GETTING ANY FUN FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO BE WITH BISEXUAL MEN. I'M NOT ENTITLED. NOBODY IS. I wouldn't push my luck with a profile on here that said "NO BI MALES". I'm not an idiot. I don't know at which point in this whole thread this whole argument started about people supposedly bashing folks who aren't open towards getting into bed with bisexual people came about. But I didn't start it. If you have problems with that go find whoever wrote that on my thread first and take your arguments there.

In the meantime, please stay on topic! "

Sounds like the woman at the club saw you as a challenge. The usual 'if he's bi he prefers men and only fucks women so he can pretend he's not gay' type of thinking. So like she was trying to get off with you to somehow prove what an amazing woman she is to 'make a gay man want to fuck a woman'.

Or she may have actually fancied the arse off you- give yourself some credit.

The question about some people finding bi men less masculine is just one of those things. Some people think that men who express their feelings aren't masculine. My point (genuine apology for being a twat earlier, sorry) was that people can think whatever they want. We may not understand it, it just is. Some people may think men fucking other men is really masculine and horny as fuck.

In your OP you said "Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out." I'm angry that you feel this way, I'm not angry at you personally. Hence my angry earlier post- again apologies.

I hate it when people try and shame others for their preferences. I mean the people making YOU feel shit for being bi.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Sounds like the woman at the club saw you as a challenge. The usual 'if he's bi he prefers men and only fucks women so he can pretend he's not gay' type of thinking. So like she was trying to get off with you to somehow prove what an amazing woman she is to 'make a gay man want to fuck a woman'.

Or she may have actually fancied the arse off you- give yourself some credit.

The question about some people finding bi men less masculine is just one of those things. Some people think that men who express their feelings aren't masculine. My point (genuine apology for being a twat earlier, sorry) was that people can think whatever they want. We may not understand it, it just is. Some people may think men fucking other men is really masculine and horny as fuck.

In your OP you said "Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out." I'm angry that you feel this way, I'm not angry at you personally. Hence my angry earlier post- again apologies.

I hate it when people try and shame others for their preferences. I mean the people making YOU feel shit for being bi.

"

Apology accepted.

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead

The bit that makes me laugh is the defiantly no bi men people with the amount of fab straight guys on here they have no idea what they have been up to before lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My other half is bi, he's all man, don't see what the big deal is with people, especially as we're all on a swingers site. I mean come on, it's not Fab Singers! It's about sex, fantasies etc....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. "

So you expect people to understand you on sight but get offended if they ask questions on the bits they arent clear on. That's not Bi straight or gay, it's just too pre ious.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

So you expect people to understand you on sight but get offended if they ask questions on the bits they arent clear on. That's not Bi straight or gay, it's just too pre ious. "

one more who didn't get it.

Oh well. Next!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn’t let it wind you up buddy. Everyone has something that they’re judged on. If you have strength of character and as confident then it shouldn’t rock you too much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*are confident

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

OP just do what all the other guys do and put straight on your profile. You can fuck as many blokes, women and trans as you want then and the women think you're straight. HAHA

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not gonna lie id never entertain a bi man i do feel hes not as masculine! But thats me we all have our personal views "

What’s less masculine about being bi? What IS masculine? For example I’m good at DIY, I work on my own cars, I watch football and rugby, I don’t have any effeminate traits. I love beer and whisky. I don’t read instruction manuals.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not gonna lie id never entertain a bi man i do feel hes not as masculine! But thats me we all have our personal views

What’s less masculine about being bi? What IS masculine? For example I’m good at DIY, I work on my own cars, I watch football and rugby, I don’t have any effeminate traits. I love beer and whisky. I don’t read instruction manuals. "

Ooh, I see you like to live life dangerously... you don't read instruction manuals? Ikea beckons!

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By *.gerri.xTV/TS
over a year ago

North west


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Ooh, I see you like to live life dangerously... you don't read instruction manuals? Ikea beckons!

"

Admit it , you're only going for the soft furnishings and candles .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Ooh, I see you like to live life dangerously... you don't read instruction manuals? Ikea beckons!

Admit it , you're only going for the soft furnishings and candles . "

Nope I’m that masculine that I only sit on hard surfaces haha.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Ooh, I see you like to live life dangerously... you don't read instruction manuals? Ikea beckons!

Admit it , you're only going for the soft furnishings and candles . "

Wait... who... me?

W-w-what's wrong with soft furnishings, fluffy blankets and candles? Okay, I don't actually go for candles, but I do find Ikea storage shelves and tables insanely useful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Ooh, I see you like to live life dangerously... you don't read instruction manuals? Ikea beckons!

Admit it , you're only going for the soft furnishings and candles .

Wait... who... me?

W-w-what's wrong with soft furnishings, fluffy blankets and candles? Okay, I don't actually go for candles, but I do find Ikea storage shelves and tables insanely useful. "

Same. I get a little bit aroused going the wrong way around the 1 way system too.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster


"OP just do what all the other guys do and put straight on your profile. You can fuck as many blokes, women and trans as you want then and the women think you're straight. HAHA"
this is so very true ide say 95% of men who shag me all straight married !!

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By *.gerri.xTV/TS
over a year ago

North west


"

Same. I get a little bit aroused going the wrong way around the 1 way system too. "

Is that a double entendre ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your preference is men and women

My preference isn't bi men

Really is that simple.

Wonder why folk want to meet you

Rather than those that don't.

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By *hill44Man
over a year ago

hinckley


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. "

That's a good point I'm bi & get looked down at by men & women ,but hey that's there issue not mine I'm happy with who I am & I just avoid the negative people around

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I read that bi men will deliberately lie about their sexuality so that they can get a fuck, I wonder what else they can lie about.

"I promise I'm not riddled with STI's."

"I will only fuck the wife, I won't try and touch the husband's cock."

"Of course I'll stop if you ask me to."

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"When I read that bi men will deliberately lie about their sexuality so that they can get a fuck, I wonder what else they can lie about.

"I promise I'm not riddled with STI's."

"I will only fuck the wife, I won't try and touch the husband's cock."

"Of course I'll stop if you ask me to."

"

Lying isn't just restricted to bi men who can't out themselves even in the swinging community because of the stigma attached.

Could say the same for those who are swinging by cheating in their marriages too.

"I haven't been honest with my partner about me wanting to swing or have sex with someone else other than them. But you can trust me to be honest that I don't have any STIs from all the cheating I've done."

"I'll only fuck the husband/wife in question. I won't try to tempt him/her outside of a threesome meet between us all to meet up with me and cheat on you as well."

"Of course I'll take all responsibility if my partner finds out that I'm cheating on him/her with you swinging lot!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I read that bi men will deliberately lie about their sexuality so that they can get a fuck, I wonder what else they can lie about.

"I promise I'm not riddled with STI's."

"I will only fuck the wife, I won't try and touch the husband's cock."

"Of course I'll stop if you ask me to."

Lying isn't just restricted to bi men who can't out themselves even in the swinging community because of the stigma attached.

Could say the same for those who are swinging by cheating in their marriages too.

"I haven't been honest with my partner about me wanting to swing or have sex with someone else other than them. But you can trust me to be honest that I don't have any STIs from all the cheating I've done."

"I'll only fuck the husband/wife in question. I won't try to tempt him/her outside of a threesome meet between us all to meet up with me and cheat on you as well."

"Of course I'll take all responsibility if my partner finds out that I'm cheating on him/her with you swinging lot!" "

Very true.

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By *eorge n DragonCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire

I do not get it? Do not think anyone gets looked down upon because of their sexuality. All people here that met respect all others. If a man or woman bi, great. I like fab because get to talk people of all genders and sexualities. If anyone disrespects this should be kicked off site.

We state that prefer straight men because it our prefetence. Not because we have anything against. Just like to have fun with people that match our sexuality.

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By *limaxinnylonCouple
over a year ago

CHESTER

We were discussing this the other day as Jon is orally bi and we have had messages to say that we are not suitable as Jon likes to suck cock..... like he is unable to control himself around a guy!! Ha ha!!! We both enjoy the sexual form of male and females, I do not want a relationship with a female and Jon does not a male. We enjoy sex and the touching and sucking of a hard cock in its pure sexual form just the same as we enjoy licking and caressing a beautiful pussy/breasts on a lady. We are not the type of people to pounce on someone or push them out of their comfort zone. If you are fully bi great, we will set our boundaries before a meet for male and female. Its just the same as we don't like pee, pain or poo but don't judge if someone does we would just set out our boundaries with the couple first.

Stop being judgy and just say what you are willing and not willing to do. Men can resist pouncing on men just the same as women can resist pouncing in women.

I think personally you are more of a man/woman to appreciate the human form and enjoy them as you so wish and with the blessing of the person you are with and not have to live your life hiding your true self!

Rant over

Jayne! Xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I do not get it? Do not think anyone gets looked down upon because of their sexuality. All people here that met respect all others. If a man or woman bi, great. I like fab because get to talk people of all genders and sexualities. If anyone disrespects this should be kicked off site.

We state that prefer straight men because it our prefetence. Not because we have anything against. Just like to have fun with people that match our sexuality."

It's not about your preference for straight men over bi men that's an issue here don't worry. The issue I had is why some people somehow feel the need to ask bi guys like myself if we still have a preference for men over women or vice versa, in a manner that is clearly fishing for the right answer (aka "oh, I'm bi but I prefer men" for the single women looking not to get one extra male mobber for their body in bed, or "oh I'm bi but I prefer women" for the couple seeking a threesome with said bi man). I'm just puzzled why a label such as "bisexual" can somehow still entail a skewed preference for either male or female, when the textbook definition of anything that's "bi" is an even 50/50 split.

Hope this clarifies for you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We were discussing this the other day as Jon is orally bi and we have had messages to say that we are not suitable as Jon likes to suck cock..... like he is unable to control himself around a guy!! Ha ha!!! We both enjoy the sexual form of male and females, I do not want a relationship with a female and Jon does not a male. We enjoy sex and the touching and sucking of a hard cock in its pure sexual form just the same as we enjoy licking and caressing a beautiful pussy/breasts on a lady. We are not the type of people to pounce on someone or push them out of their comfort zone. If you are fully bi great, we will set our boundaries before a meet for male and female. Its just the same as we don't like pee, pain or poo but don't judge if someone does we would just set out our boundaries with the couple first.

Stop being judgy and just say what you are willing and not willing to do. Men can resist pouncing on men just the same as women can resist pouncing in women.

I think personally you are more of a man/woman to appreciate the human form and enjoy them as you so wish and with the blessing of the person you are with and not have to live your life hiding your true self!

Rant over

Jayne! Xx "

Thank you for this! I think your answer gets down to the crux of the matter very well. I have no idea where the whole stereotype of bisexual men being unable to respect limits or aiming to jump on all guys they come across came from. Speaking for myself that certainly is not the case!

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By *.gerri.xTV/TS
over a year ago

North west

Hearts not parts !

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. "

First up OP as an openly bisexual male I've not experienced ANY of what you describe - yes I've come across profiles that won't meet bi males and when I do I just shrug and move on.

Secondly, having read through the thread, I do think you are being a little over-sensitive and as someone else pointed out precious about some of this - if people ask questions about your sexuality, as a means to find out more about you, and possibly get a better understanding for themselves, then surely that's a good thing?

I know for sure that if someone asked me if I preferred men over women I'd not be in the slightest bit offended, but would enjoy discussing the topic with them.

Yes, it sounds like the person last night was possibly a little presumptuous, but is it really that big a deal?

Yes, there are those about with very old school pre-conceived ideas about bisexual men, but I'd say they are in the minority, and surely one way to address that misconception is by being open to discussing it with them rather than throwing your toys out of the pram because someone doesn't know or understand?

As for your assertion that bisexual single men are "whitewashed out by so much of Fab" I think you're very wide of the mark, in fact my experience is there are just as many, if not more, people who actively seek bi guys as there are those that won't meet them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really

What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back

WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why?

"

Because I don't like liars and cheating is bad enough but have been through it with a friend who's husband not only cheated on her but with guys and it very nearly destroyed her ... it just meant that the lies were seemingly much worse and her sense of failure was palpable

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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago

most fundamental aspects


"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really

What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back

WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why?

Because I don't like liars and cheating is bad enough but have been through it with a friend who's husband not only cheated on her but with guys and it very nearly destroyed her ... it just meant that the lies were seemingly much worse and her sense of failure was palpable "

Why did it make it worse that he cheated with a male than a female?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really

What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back

WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why?

Because I don't like liars and cheating is bad enough but have been through it with a friend who's husband not only cheated on her but with guys and it very nearly destroyed her ... it just meant that the lies were seemingly much worse and her sense of failure was palpable

Why did it make it worse that he cheated with a male than a female?"

It's the ego crushing. Bad enough for your ego to be crushed from your partner cheating on you. It's even worse when they cheat on you with someone of the opposite sex from you; it puts your entire self and sexual worth and image right into the bin!

Try imagining having a girlfriend, then finding out she cheated on you with another girl on a night out and that she told you that the girl knew how to please her better in bed than you with a cock.

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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago

most fundamental aspects

You see this thing of it being perceived as a worse insult with the same sex, baffles me.

Surely thinking someone with the same equipment is favoured (and presumably better) is worse than someone with sexual equipment that you cannot emulate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really

What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back

WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why?

Because I don't like liars and cheating is bad enough but have been through it with a friend who's husband not only cheated on her but with guys and it very nearly destroyed her ... it just meant that the lies were seemingly much worse and her sense of failure was palpable

Why did it make it worse that he cheated with a male than a female?

It's the ego crushing. Bad enough for your ego to be crushed from your partner cheating on you. It's even worse when they cheat on you with someone of the opposite sex from you; it puts your entire self and sexual worth and image right into the bin!

Try imagining having a girlfriend, then finding out she cheated on you with another girl on a night out and that she told you that the girl knew how to please her better in bed than you with a cock. "

That would be great lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. "

Read your first line n thought,boohoo,woe is me,nobody meets bi guys.

Get over yourself,there's someone for everyone on fab,not everyone for someone,no matter what your sexual orientation

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Oh, and I just got a "lovely" message that was badly spelled no less from a single female that simply said "bi men carry too many disease"...

Why do we still have this sort of nonsense to deal with on Fab?!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

Read your first line n thought,boohoo,woe is me,nobody meets bi guys.

Get over yourself,there's someone for everyone on fab,not everyone for someone,no matter what your sexual orientation"

If you read through the entire thread up to the point you wrote your ignorant comment and still could come to the conclusion that I'm doing as you said, "boohoo woe is me" nonsense, then I'm sorry, you clearly failed at reading comprehension.

Way to miss the point again. The queue gets longer. NEXT!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Trolls everywhere!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Are people wrong to react by having the feelings that they do? No - our emotional selves are as they are, even if we don't always respond to life around us in in the ways that are perhaps the most likely to let us become the most fulfilled, happiest etc, that we could be.

As I said earlier, i think we are somewhat the victims of older anti-sex perspectives that have dominated and persisted in many social attitudes today - much larger than bi aspects, though it's one of them. Attitudes to bi males suffer a legacy from the much more extreme anti-gay male perspectives that we're around imo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me.

So you expect people to understand you on sight but get offended if they ask questions on the bits they arent clear on. That's not Bi straight or gay, it's just too pre ious.

one more who didn't get it.

Oh well. Next! "

Well if you're going to be smart about it, it looks like you're the one not getting it.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley


"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it.

I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why!

No problem! No drama!

"

Perhaps she is a blood donor?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a bi curious or fully bi guy is fucking a women anally chances are she's worried he maybe dreaming it's a guy and not her.

You know how minds work.

Better check his eyes are not closed ladies

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If a bi curious or fully bi guy is fucking a women anally chances are she's worried he maybe dreaming it's a guy and not her.

You know how minds work.

Better check his eyes are not closed ladies "

thanks for the chuckle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If a bi curious or fully bi guy is fucking a women anally chances are she's worried he maybe dreaming it's a guy and not her.

You know how minds work.

Better check his eyes are not closed ladies "

what a pile of utter horse shit...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If a bi curious or fully bi guy is fucking a women anally chances are she's worried he maybe dreaming it's a guy and not her.

You know how minds work.

Better check his eyes are not closed ladies

what a pile of utter horse shit..."

phew had me worried there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im a tranny but im not attracted to men at all but alnost every guy online or in person assumes cause ur a tranny that you are and some even dont care when I tell them.outstraight that im not into guys, they still just treat me like must be and that im.kinding myself. Some men.have no respect for anyone which is veey sad.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Im a tranny but im not attracted to men at all but alnost every guy online or in person assumes cause ur a tranny that you are and some even dont care when I tell them.outstraight that im not into guys, they still just treat me like must be and that im.kinding myself. Some men.have no respect for anyone which is veey sad."

Why not block single men from messaging you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Better question would be, Women, how would you feel if people started rejecting you because you're bi/had sex with another women? Sounds stupid right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its not just online but I get your point,but if I.block.all.men. then.I cannot chat with some friends of mine, its not all.men.thst are assholes lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good question, probably a similer response I imagine

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Its not just online but I get your point,but if I.block.all.men. then.I cannot chat with some friends of mine, its not all.men.thst are assholes lol"

If you set your message filter right now to block all single men, your friends and basically any men who have messaged you before in the past CAN still message and contact you. So you won't be losing touch with them! The message filter only applies after you activate it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I.know this thanks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It kind of is if you ask the wrong questions? I mean why would one think that asking a bi person if they'd have a preference for men or women more be anything but a pretty personal question? Not to mention how some women who in all due fairness want a break from being mobbed by male attention would only give you the time of the day or befriend you simply because they feel more safe and at ease if you told them that despite being bi you'd be more open to guys than girls. To me it doesn't seem very respectful and it just feels kind of demeaning.

That's just my opinion anyway! Maybe I'm just touchy about it. I don't know. But thanks for your reply.

I was always told that there are no wrong questions!

So you want people to know that being bi can mean (and does in your case) that you like both equally, but you don't want them to find out by asking... because it's personal. If you tell people you are bi, you are opening up a personal side that is them naturally open to questions. If you don't want people to be curious and ask questions maybe don't bring up your sexuality? I don't bring up mine, because I don't want to talk to people about who I like to screw.

So women feel less threatened by a bi/gay guy - they don't owe you companionship in any way shape or form - but they are being disrespectful if they will only give you the time of day if they see you in a certain way.

Entitled would be the word that springs to my mind.

Which part of "bi" implies a preference or bias towards one side at the expense of the other? Surely that shouldn't have to be something to be made clear? If I told you I'm bi when it comes to for example my favourite desserts (tiramisu and chocolate mousse) would it spring to your mind to ask "yeah, but out of those two which do you prefer more?"

Not sure who you're calling entitled here though. "

Honestly, “What’s your favourite?” would be the first question that sprung to mind - other than “Why are you describing yourself as bi when it comes to desserts?”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a doorman in clubs that is a manly job by I am bi as well and in life I have had people think that I am soft due to being bi how is that

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over a year ago


"I am a doorman in clubs that is a manly job by I am bi as well and in life I have had people think that I am soft due to being bi how is that "

Because all Bi Men are really just flamboyant gay men too scared to commit, you know, unlike Bi Women, they're totally not lezzers too scared to pick a side, they're just proud women enjoying their sexuality. Bi men are also riddled with STIs even though stats wise Swingers are on the same risk level.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. "

We’ve met and played with as many bi guys as straight guys . Every one of the bi guys we’ve met has said he’s more into women than men , and maybe that’s because I’m not bi , I don’t know but it’s true . Even when we’ve been at dogging and cottaging sites where bi guys are the main people there , it’s the same story . Of course there are gay guys who never play with my wife , but the bi guys are always assuring us that they prefer women .

As to whether being bi makes you less of an alpha male . I wouldn’t say so at all . So many builders , truckers , doormen , and very typical alpha males are bi so that’s not the case at all .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it.

I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why!

No problem! No drama!

Perhaps she is a blood donor?"

What does it mean sweetheart, please educate me! Does it make a difference when practicing safe sex?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it.

I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why!

No problem! No drama!

Perhaps she is a blood donor?"

Oh and why talk to me on here if you've already blocked me sweetcheeks!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am a doorman in clubs that is a manly job by I am bi as well and in life I have had people think that I am soft due to being bi how is that

Because all Bi Men are really just flamboyant gay men too scared to commit, you know, unlike Bi Women, they're totally not lezzers too scared to pick a side, they're just proud women enjoying their sexuality. Bi men are also riddled with STIs even though stats wise Swingers are on the same risk level. "

Don’t ya just love a bit of stereotypes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My fb is bi, I didn’t really know any bi guys before him, but knew I’d love a bi mmf where the men played as much with eachother as they did me... I asked him if he had a preference he said yes women did it more for him but he still loved going with a man n also loved a bi mmf... I only asked out of curiosity as we were getting to know eachother and I wanted to know as much about him as possible, didn’t bother me either way same as it doesn’t bother me when people aske if I have a preference to black or white guys... it was just a learning curve about eachother x people will always want to know stuff... I have enormous boobs as you can see... still get abot 5 guys a day asking what size they curiosity is just that...

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By *otgirl32Woman
over a year ago

Ashton Under Lyne

Generally bi men are stigmatized as being exposed to HIV like gay men, which is ridiculous in this day and age. This girl loves bi men (preferably in pairs!)

x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Generally bi men are stigmatized as being exposed to HIV like gay men, which is ridiculous in this day and age. This girl loves bi men (preferably in pairs!)

x"

xx thought I'd never hear from you again! You got mail.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This has been a fascinating read.. Its nice to see women kindred spirits and know its good to avoid the labels!

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

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"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it.

I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why!

No problem! No drama!

Perhaps she is a blood donor?

What does it mean sweetheart, please educate me! Does it make a difference when practicing safe sex? "

If you're a blood donor and have had sex (safe or otherwise) with someone who is in a "high risk" group (which includes bi/gay men) within the last three months you can't give blood

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Generally bi men are stigmatized as being exposed to HIV like gay men, which is ridiculous in this day and age. This girl loves bi men (preferably in pairs!)

x"

Hi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Generally bi men are stigmatized as being exposed to HIV like gay men, which is ridiculous in this day and age. This girl loves bi men (preferably in pairs!)

x

Hi "

Need a third?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really

What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back

WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why?

Because I don't like liars and cheating is bad enough but have been through it with a friend who's husband not only cheated on her but with guys and it very nearly destroyed her ... it just meant that the lies were seemingly much worse and her sense of failure was palpable

Why did it make it worse that he cheated with a male than a female?"

Her feelings and think that the lies just seemed worse to her ... let's face it cheating with a woman is one lie being bi and not telling her is just more lies! Made her feel totally inadequate in probably every way! It ended horrifically

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have no problems with any person's sexuality but here I'm more interested in what (who) turns me on and I'm sorry but two men together don't. It's as simple as that really

What I don't like are married men who are bi behind their partners back

WOW I've met, slept with a married man who is Bi.... May I ask is there a difference if he was straight and cheating and why?

Because I don't like liars and cheating is bad enough but have been through it with a friend who's husband not only cheated on her but with guys and it very nearly destroyed her ... it just meant that the lies were seemingly much worse and her sense of failure was palpable

Why did it make it worse that he cheated with a male than a female?

It's the ego crushing. Bad enough for your ego to be crushed from your partner cheating on you. It's even worse when they cheat on you with someone of the opposite sex from you; it puts your entire self and sexual worth and image right into the bin!

Try imagining having a girlfriend, then finding out she cheated on you with another girl on a night out and that she told you that the girl knew how to please her better in bed than you with a cock. "

This

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

I came out to everybody only about 8 months back . I worked in my local rough boozer until a few weeks ago (pub shut down ) I can hold my own no problem and usually used my tongue to deal with any agro while working .i,m quite well known in my local area . But since I came out I was getting challenged all the time because people seen me as a bit soft because I,m bi . Some of the lads I used to drink with now avoid me , people on Facebook don,t add to my posts as often as they did . But the worst was a mate I went to school with and on occasions went the match , he blocked me on Facebook

I know it's there own insecurities , and I really could,nt give a shit . I may have lost friends but I really don,t give a shit anymore I feel I,ve sorted the wheat from the chaff and came on here to make better more accepting friends . I have seen it as one door closing and another opening , and I,ve never been happier even if a little lonely at the mo . But fuck it , this is the real me .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The point that seems to be missing here are personal feelings which have no wrong or right and really we should we ever criticise a person's feelings? Just because we are all on a site where a lot of people cheat, whether this is deemed wrong or right isn't always the issue ... there is always someone else involved (whether at this point they know or not) and their feelings are innocent and should always be taken into consideration. To find out that the person you have chosen to spend your time with has lied to you about their sexuality must be very difficult and even worse if you find out via cheating

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The point that seems to be missing here are personal feelings which have no wrong or right and really we should we ever criticise a person's feelings? Just because we are all on a site where a lot of people cheat, whether this is deemed wrong or right isn't always the issue ... there is always someone else involved (whether at this point they know or not) and their feelings are innocent and should always be taken into consideration. To find out that the person you have chosen to spend your time with has lied to you about their sexuality must be very difficult and even worse if you find out via cheating "

There's a lot going on. There is fidelity, emotion and plain old fashion lust.. It can get complex and shitty quick, it can also be brilliant. Guess you're right it's about being up front about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The point that seems to be missing here are personal feelings which have no wrong or right and really we should we ever criticise a person's feelings? Just because we are all on a site where a lot of people cheat, whether this is deemed wrong or right isn't always the issue ... there is always someone else involved (whether at this point they know or not) and their feelings are innocent and should always be taken into consideration. To find out that the person you have chosen to spend your time with has lied to you about their sexuality must be very difficult and even worse if you find out via cheating

There's a lot going on. There is fidelity, emotion and plain old fashion lust.. It can get complex and shitty quick, it can also be brilliant. Guess you're right it's about being up front about it"

though usually only brilliant for one party

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The point that seems to be missing here are personal feelings which have no wrong or right and really we should we ever criticise a person's feelings? Just because we are all on a site where a lot of people cheat, whether this is deemed wrong or right isn't always the issue ... there is always someone else involved (whether at this point they know or not) and their feelings are innocent and should always be taken into consideration. To find out that the person you have chosen to spend your time with has lied to you about their sexuality must be very difficult and even worse if you find out via cheating

There's a lot going on. There is fidelity, emotion and plain old fashion lust.. It can get complex and shitty quick, it can also be brilliant. Guess you're right it's about being up front about it

though usually only brilliant for one party "

Oh I meant to say that if you were single or if your partner was not bothered by it. But no you're right about being in a relationship and all that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it.

I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why!

No problem! No drama!

Perhaps she is a blood donor?

What does it mean sweetheart, please educate me! Does it make a difference when practicing safe sex?

If you're a blood donor and have had sex (safe or otherwise) with someone who is in a "high risk" group (which includes bi/gay men) within the last three months you can't give blood "

I thought it was M to M only! Not fems with bi men.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it.

I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why!

No problem! No drama!

Perhaps she is a blood donor?

What does it mean sweetheart, please educate me! Does it make a difference when practicing safe sex?

If you're a blood donor and have had sex (safe or otherwise) with someone who is in a "high risk" group (which includes bi/gay men) within the last three months you can't give blood

I thought it was M to M only! Not fems with bi men. "

By default having sex with a man who has had sex with a man would mean having had sex with someone in a high risk group - which as detailed in the following from the Blood Donor website would preclude someone from giving blood unless 3 months had passed:

"Subject to meeting the other donation rules, men who have had specific sexual activity with another man; commercial sex workers and people who have sex with partners in groups known to have a high risk of having an infection that could be passed on during sex (high risk partners) are now able to donate after three months have passed since that sexual activity."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The point that seems to be missing here are personal feelings which have no wrong or right and really we should we ever criticise a person's feelings? Just because we are all on a site where a lot of people cheat, whether this is deemed wrong or right isn't always the issue ... there is always someone else involved (whether at this point they know or not) and their feelings are innocent and should always be taken into consideration. To find out that the person you have chosen to spend your time with has lied to you about their sexuality must be very difficult and even worse if you find out via cheating "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"and people who have sex with partners in groups known to have a high risk of having an infection that could be passed on during sex (high risk partners) are now able to donate after three months have passed since that sexual activity.""

Aka, Swingers, so all if you claiming that Bi Men are the ones in the high risk category should look in the mirror as you're there too!

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"and people who have sex with partners in groups known to have a high risk of having an infection that could be passed on during sex (high risk partners) are now able to donate after three months have passed since that sexual activity."

Aka, Swingers, so all if you claiming that Bi Men are the ones in the high risk category should look in the mirror as you're there too! "

It's a little more subjective unfortunately - the clear cut guidelines state:

"You must not give blood or platelets for at least 3 months after sex (even if you used a condom or other protective) with...

(If you are a man) a man who, in the last 3 months has had oral or anal sex with another man (even if you used a condom or other protective).

(If you are a woman) a man who has ever had oral or anal sex with another man, even if they used a condom or other protective. There are exceptions, so please check.

A partner who is, or you think may be:

HIV positive

A hepatitis B carrier

A hepatitis C carrier

HTLV positive

Syphilis positive

A partner who has ever received money or drugs for sex.

A partner who has ever injected, or been injected with, drugs - even a long time ago or only once. This includes body-building drugs and injectable tanning agents. You may be able to give if a doctor prescribed the drugs. Please check with us to make sure.

A partner who has, or you think may have been, sexually active in parts of the world where HIV/ AIDS is very common. This includes most countries in Africa. There are exceptions, so please check with us to make sure."

As far as I know the Blood Donation Centres don't ask how promiscuous people are so will only use the above questions and rule you out based on them so although swingers and young heterosexual sexually active people are considered "higher risk" they're not ruled out based on that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it.

I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why!

No problem! No drama!

Perhaps she is a blood donor?

What does it mean sweetheart, please educate me! Does it make a difference when practicing safe sex?

If you're a blood donor and have had sex (safe or otherwise) with someone who is in a "high risk" group (which includes bi/gay men) within the last three months you can't give blood

I thought it was M to M only! Not fems with bi men.

By default having sex with a man who has had sex with a man would mean having had sex with someone in a high risk group - which as detailed in the following from the Blood Donor website would preclude someone from giving blood unless 3 months had passed:

"Subject to meeting the other donation rules, men who have had specific sexual activity with another man; commercial sex workers and people who have sex with partners in groups known to have a high risk of having an infection that could be passed on during sex (high risk partners) are now able to donate after three months have passed since that sexual activity.""

Thank you for going to that trouble of letting me know. I've been on the wrong websites that don't give you the full details. Thank you again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure why this question has resulted in such a agressive and angered response by the OP. Your response comes across somewhat judgemental towards her and others who may want to have asked a similar question and maybe another underlying issue.

Surely it would have been much better to have taken the opportunity to maybe understand why she posed the question like she did and may took time to enlighten her.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I do not get it? Do not think anyone gets looked down upon because of their sexuality. All people here that met respect all others. If a man or woman bi, great. I like fab because get to talk people of all genders and sexualities. If anyone disrespects this should be kicked off site.

We state that prefer straight men because it our prefetence. Not because we have anything against. Just like to have fun with people that match our sexuality.

It's not about your preference for straight men over bi men that's an issue here don't worry. The issue I had is why some people somehow feel the need to ask bi guys like myself if we still have a preference for men over women or vice versa, in a manner that is clearly fishing for the right answer (aka "oh, I'm bi but I prefer men" for the single women looking not to get one extra male mobber for their body in bed, or "oh I'm bi but I prefer women" for the couple seeking a threesome with said bi man). I'm just puzzled why a label such as "bisexual" can somehow still entail a skewed preference for either male or female, when the textbook definition of anything that's "bi" is an even 50/50 split.

Hope this clarifies for you. "

As a bisexual woman I disagree. While it may be a 50/50 split for yourself that is not the case for myself or many of my other bisexual identifying friends. Sexuality is a lot more complex than that and very much a spectrum. Personally I am physically sexually attracted a lot more to women than men. However I am more romantically attracted to men. I have slept with more men than women though but that is mostly as male sexual partners are a lot easier to come by then female.

However I do agree with you that the assumption that bisexual men are just "secretly gay" and prefer men is pretty offensive. I mean it doesn't make sense for starters as identifying as bisexual opens you up to a lot of prejudice anyway and a lot of gay people won't sleep with bisexual people so I don't see how pretending to be bisexual when you are really gay makes things any easier for you. I don't think that asking if you have a preference either way is offensive as a lot of us do and some people are just genuinely interested in how each individual's sexuality works but people shouldn't assume a natural preference either way.

As for bisexual men being less manly, that's just rediculous. I spent a year in a relationship with and the submissive of a bisexual man and I have dated heterosexual men who were far less masculine and dominant than he was. Hell, I know gay men who are hypermasculinity personified haha.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"BTW homophobic hasn't been mentioned by me at all, I never even thought it.

I just questioned why a fem wouldn't sleep with a Bi man. My question hasn't been answered, that's their choice. Unfortunately for me, I still don't know why!

No problem! No drama!

Perhaps she is a blood donor?

What does it mean sweetheart, please educate me! Does it make a difference when practicing safe sex?

If you're a blood donor and have had sex (safe or otherwise) with someone who is in a "high risk" group (which includes bi/gay men) within the last three months you can't give blood

I thought it was M to M only! Not fems with bi men. "

Sadly not. I had a bisexual boyfriend back when the rules were even worse. I was prevented from giving blood for a year after we split up even though he hadn't slept with another man since before we met. The rules have been improved since then but I still think they're kind of out of touch. The fact that a monogamous gay male couple practicing safe sex will be prevented from giving blood but a heterosexual person having unprotected sex with multiple partners of unknown status won't be kind of says it all really.

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By *eady and Willing 9Man
over a year ago

Wherever the party is @

I started to talk to a very handsome bi guy who said "women don't talk to him because he's bi ". It came about because he said if i was into giys and i replied no. Bad thing is,i know most of the women i know would fancy him. And as the conversation went on,he told me that women think he's not manly enough and too feminine for them. While i get why some women don't want bi guy's because that's their preference. To base it on what he said seemed a bit duh to me.

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By *uckslut and MCouple
over a year ago

Poole

We get mixed signals. If your bi they want stra8ght and visia versa.

We love bi persons. Makes no differance to us. Bi fem / bi Male, cd, tv, ts the list goes on.

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By *ittlekinkCouple
over a year ago

Yarm

I’m massively sexually attracted to bi/gay men. But my husband isn’t bi so I wouldn’t consider a bi male to meet us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have a look under the forum section, then the stories and Fantasies and search for....

Dating a 22 yr girl, but her oversexed gran... Fuck!

A dirty story I have posted about when my gfs granny seduced me behind my gfs back. go look but please leave something real dirty on the forum...

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By *heIcebreakersCouple
over a year ago

Cramlington


"Not gonna lie id never entertain a bi man i do feel hes not as masculine! But thats me we all have our personal views "
Other people's mileage may vary - the odds are you've met loads of bi guys and discounted the possibility that they are bi because they are 'too masculine to be bi...'

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over a year ago

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By *heIcebreakersCouple
over a year ago

Cramlington


"I do not get it? Do not think anyone gets looked down upon because of their sexuality. All people here that met respect all others. If a man or woman bi, great. I like fab because get to talk people of all genders and sexualities. If anyone disrespects this should be kicked off site.

We state that prefer straight men because it our prefetence. Not because we have anything against. Just like to have fun with people that match our sexuality.

It's not about your preference for straight men over bi men that's an issue here don't worry. The issue I had is why some people somehow feel the need to ask bi guys like myself if we still have a preference for men over women or vice versa, in a manner that is clearly fishing for the right answer (aka "oh, I'm bi but I prefer men" for the single women looking not to get one extra male mobber for their body in bed, or "oh I'm bi but I prefer women" for the couple seeking a threesome with said bi man). I'm just puzzled why a label such as "bisexual" can somehow still entail a skewed preference for either male or female, when the textbook definition of anything that's "bi" is an even 50/50 split.

Hope this clarifies for you.

As a bisexual woman I disagree. While it may be a 50/50 split for yourself that is not the case for myself or many of my other bisexual identifying friends. Sexuality is a lot more complex than that and very much a spectrum. Personally I am physically sexually attracted a lot more to women than men. However I am more romantically attracted to men. I have slept with more men than women though but that is mostly as male sexual partners are a lot easier to come by then female.

However I do agree with you that the assumption that bisexual men are just "secretly gay" and prefer men is pretty offensive. I mean it doesn't make sense for starters as identifying as bisexual opens you up to a lot of prejudice anyway and a lot of gay people won't sleep with bisexual people so I don't see how pretending to be bisexual when you are really gay makes things any easier for you. I don't think that asking if you have a preference either way is offensive as a lot of us do and some people are just genuinely interested in how each individual's sexuality works but people shouldn't assume a natural preference either way.

As for bisexual men being less manly, that's just rediculous. I spent a year in a relationship with and the submissive of a bisexual man and I have dated heterosexual men who were far less masculine and dominant than he was. Hell, I know gay men who are hypermasculinity personified haha."

Hypermasculine gay men were one feature of my rather over active sex life in my twenties lol, and most of them were poor christians who believed it was better to receive than give when the chips were down.....

However, I'm not convinced that my ability to be a dominant is about my masculinity - it's about my ability to empathize and then to assert myself in relationship to the other part of our particular tag team, and the fact that she can submit to some women is a constant reminder to me that gender isn't what makes me her preferred dominant....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the deal with bisexual single men being whitewashed out by so much of Fab and society generally speaking as either being more gay than straight/not manly enough for females?

I find it hard to understand why I still have to entertain questions in real life or on Fab like "Oh so you're bi... But you'd prefer guys over girls more right?" Not gonna lie it makes me feel like shit about myself. Because in that one line it's like my equal desire and attention I'd give towards women as well as men sexually speaking just got wiped out. What's so hard to understand about it? We don't ask bisexual women if they are more into women than men after all, so why is it an acceptable way to frame bisexual single men?

Oh. And one more thing I don't get. Why's it being a bi guy who would happily play with men as well as women suddenly making me less masculine or "alpha male" in the eyes of some women?

Feel free to discuss and enlighten me. "

I prefer bi guys

I find bi and gay guys often look after themselves better and are frequently more manly.

Straight guys can be so dull.

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

It's better to be whitewashed than tarred and feathered

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