FabSwingers.com forum: BWFC: black women's fan club

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hi all, I'm a white guy who happens to find black women very attractive. I've had relationships and spectacularly fulfilling liaisons before, so they're not a strange new concept to cross off my bucket list (seems there are some guys like that out there, sadly). Big whoop-de-doo, I know. But please hear me out:

As I'm new here, I wonder why the "white women seeking BBC" thing is very much visible and has its own theme nights, but not the guys attracted to black ladies? I can understand personal preferences and the reality of how many/few black women actually venture here, I thought I'd better check I'm not missing something else obvious or not looking in the right places?

Is it just too niche/taboo or have I not cracked all the acronym codes properly?

Any ideas, fabbers?

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London

How come I always see black ladies at parties and count at least two among my friends? There are parties aimed at people like you plus those aimed at black people of both sexes, plus a lot of black ladies go to BMFC, Curvy Club and other parties. Do your research, and good luck.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Aren't they all just women?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you want to answer your question you need to look deep into society, racism and white supremacism. Dating/sex and habit associated with them are just manifestations of a deeper problem

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London

"Aren't they all just women?

Aren't people's preferences just preferences?

What beggars belief is that in this day and age some people cannot look for information online.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Aren't people's preferences just preferences?"

Not in a non post racial world, no.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thanks to those who have already replied. In my defence, I am very, very new here and to the lifestyle etc. We were all new here once!

I did follow the curvy club thread but got psyched out because I only saw lots of messages from curvy white women about black guys, so I thought I'd be laughed out of the building. And yes, that is all in my head and yes, I will learn to get over myself eventually! I'll keep my eyes open for the next event then.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

If black women want to be singled out as 'different', then don't go crying to society that they are being treated 'differently'.

Equally, what would happen if someone wanted a white woman only club? It would be discounted as racist.

It's only the double standards that make me question the logic of this.

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By *inotGringoMan
over a year ago

Lancashire

Although I disagree with the fetishism of a race, it does exist somewhere down south.

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London

"If black women want to be singled out as 'different', then don't go crying to society that they are being treated 'differently'.

Equally, what would happen if someone wanted a white woman only club? It would be discounted as racist.

It's only the double standards that make me question the logic of this."

No one said "only".

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London

"Thanks to those who have already replied. In my defence, I am very, very new here and to the lifestyle etc. We were all new here once!

Well, I was there. There were some really lovely black ladies. Very friendly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have you actually been to black womans fan club? The lady, Sam who runs it is lovely Usually held at Radletts

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I really didn't mean to start a semantics war!

As a new guy, I would instinctively not go to a bmfc event as I am excruciatingly white, and would presume any black ladies there were expressly not looking for the likes of me that night!

However, as I get to attend more events, I hope more opportunities arise. Thanks for your advice everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Aren't they all just women?

Err.. No.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I didn't know there was an actual bwfc event, sorry. I've not been here more than 3 weeks, I'm still learning!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I really didn't mean to start a semantics war!

As a new guy, I would instinctively not go to a bmfc event as I am excruciatingly white, and would presume any black ladies there were expressly not looking for the likes of me that night!

However, as I get to attend more events, I hope more opportunities arise. Thanks for your advice everyone."

I think events are definitely the way to go

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"It's only the double standards that make me question the logic of this.

No one said "only"."

You're right, I did jump to that conclusion.

I just feel that people should be people and not categorised for any reason of race.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey OP,

I think this idea was bandied about a while back by the lady who either attends or organises the one at Radletts. I'd love to attend such an event but living in Sheffield, London is too far. I don't think there's enough black women up North to organise such an event but we did exist.

I think there's far deeper meanings behind the BMFC and BBC (hate that phrase) fetishes which I won't go into now but basically that's why they're far more visable.

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By *nterracial dreamCouple
over a year ago

London

I dont post in the forums very often but this subject interests me as someone in a interracial relationship. I think its ok for the original post member to discuss a preference. But clearly when this preference is based on beauty (which i believe the original member who posted is) thats fine. But when you start to include darker elements of raceplay e.g ghetto gagger porn it is harmful to all involved.

Fetishism exists in most if not all elements of society and it's not just sexual. It's mainstream cultures obsession with the "other" and human nature to want to experience other things.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Aren't they all just women?

Err.. No. "

Are you saying black women aren't women

I can't believe you are so what did you mean?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Fetishism exists in most if not all elements of society and it's not just sexual. It's mainstream cultures obsession with the "other" and human nature to want to experience other things. "

That's very true

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it is totally alien to me to be attracted to a man (or woman) for their skin colour.

I either like his face and how he behaves with me or not

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I did mean that I tend to

find black women more attractive, both physically and personality-wise, than my fellow Anglo-Saxons. There is no sinister racist undertone or fetishism to it, just my preference.

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By *eyKMan
over a year ago

North

Jeez they've jumped down your throat haven't they?!

I've been with several black woman but unfortunately the area I'm in isn't pararly diverse. That being said when I've searched for women on here there seems to be very few which is a real shame.

I see plenty off women searching for only BBC and there are plenty of events for women who are soley interested in black men. Having a BWFC is no different.

Each to their own and good luck in your search.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thank you for your support!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jeez they've jumped down your throat haven't they?!

I've been with several black woman but unfortunately the area I'm in isn't pararly diverse. That being said when I've searched for women on here there seems to be very few which is a real shame.

I see plenty off women searching for only BBC and there are plenty of events for women who are soley interested in black men. Having a BWFC is no different.

Each to their own and good luck in your search. "

Totally agree, it’s all cool.

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By *nterracial dreamCouple
over a year ago

London

Race tends to be a hot button topic in all aspects of life so there would be quite a reaction.

That being said I think everyone thus far has been courteous.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I just wanted advice on where to look, as the numbers game here is hugely stacked against me. I'll just wait for the next curvy club I suppose.

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London

"I just wanted advice on where to look, as the numbers game here is hugely stacked against me. I'll just wait for the next curvy club I suppose.

Look for information on the site. There are other parties. Try BMFC, BWFC and others. You clearly went to school, so use your research skills.

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By *nterracial dreamCouple
over a year ago

London

I think the suggestions that have been made are good. Regardless of your ethnicity if you go to bmfc event you'll find cool people from all backgrounds. Any fears you personally may have I assure you wouldn't be an issue as the nature of the event leaves us all with a degree of vulnerability. Also you would be surprised how many black women in the scene are attracted only to white males

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Aren't they all just women?

Err.. No.

Are you saying black women aren't women

I can't believe you are so what did you mean?"

I assumed by saying "aren't they all just women" you were suggesting we're all the same. So no, black women aren't the same as other women.

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By *uriousTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

If I’m allowed to fancy a ginger, then having a preference for a dark skinned lady should be seen as just desire also x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would love a black lady I’m definitely in the bwfc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would love to go to a BWFC party if there ever as one!

As a black girl who loves the white male I think I’d fit in nicely! Haha.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with seeking what you fancy.

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By *o1 social butterflyWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

An interesting convo

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I would love to go to a BWFC party if there ever as one!

As a black girl who loves the white male I think I’d fit in nicely! Haha.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with seeking what you fancy. "

Thanks for your contribution, my dear. It seems there may be such a club night in Radlett in September. I am going to write to them and apply, hopefully I'll be there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Jeez they've jumped down your throat haven't they?!

I've been with several black woman but unfortunately the area I'm in isn't pararly diverse. That being said when I've searched for women on here there seems to be very few which is a real shame.

I see plenty off women searching for only BBC and there are plenty of events for women who are soley interested in black men. Having a BWFC is no different.

Each to their own and good luck in your search. "

I agree.

There is nothing wrong with having a preference and I can’t see anything wrong with what the OP has said.

We all have preferences whether it be race, size, age, hair colour, etc etc and we are entitled to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would love to go to a BWFC party if there ever as one!

As a black girl who loves the white male I think I’d fit in nicely! Haha.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with seeking what you fancy.

Thanks for your contribution, my dear. It seems there may be such a club night in Radlett in September. I am going to write to them and apply, hopefully I'll be there"

Ooh is there?!

I’d be interested in this.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"An interesting convo "

Thank you, I'm glad we managed to steer it back from turning into a radio phone-in!

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By *ucky88oMan
over a year ago

london

Club black whip.

Its a femdom club run by dominant black Ladies.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I would love to go to a BWFC party if there ever as one!

As a black girl who loves the white male I think I’d fit in nicely! Haha.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with seeking what you fancy.

Thanks for your contribution, my dear. It seems there may be such a club night in Radlett in September. I am going to write to them and apply, hopefully I'll be there

Ooh is there?!

I’d be interested in this.

I've messaged you a link!

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

I really don't care about what people prefer so if white women want to go only with black men or black women want to go only with white men, or if people are bi, it is none of mine or anyone else's business but their own.

But I will defend the current interracial parties because on the whole they do not exclude white men. A number of woman attend with their white husbands. As far as know none exclude white men, or Asian men.

At these parties there are black women as well. So they on a whole are truly interracial.

Whereas when I people mention black women fan club, the sub text is the exclusion of black men even though many black men appreciate all women and quite a few I know only like black women. Be that it as it may if the parties were to be black women and white men only if it's the ladies preference that's fine sensible people should get over it.

But please don't moan about the dearth of these parties, go out and start your own. It is perfectly possible to organise and if the effort is put in and if it is truly popular it will take off.

When I started on the scene 5 years ago there were not that many interracial parties. People have put their money where there mouth is and it has taken off. I respect the BMFC as they have worked damn hard to be successful and maintain success. In fact I respect anyone on the scene that holds parties or runs clubs of whatever persuasion, whether BBW, Milf, Bi, kink or or just the standard clubs. They have not looked at other parties and moaned,a lot were swingers before being owners they have gone out and done it and made a success. Therefore I wish any black woman fan club well. I hope plenty spring up and run for years. But please stop comparing and get on with it.

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London

"I really don't care about what people prefer so if white women want to go only with black men or black women want to go only with white men, or if people are bi, it is none of mine or anyone else's business but their own.

At these parties there are black women as well. So they on a whole are truly interracial.

But please don't moan about the dearth of these parties, go out and start your own. It is perfectly possible to organise and if the effort is put in and if it is truly popular it will take off.

Love the new look.

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

Thank you, you looked lovely yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A decent post from this guy in my opinion , I just don't get why people feel the need to be so horrible and jump to conclusions! Shame on you

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London

"Thank you, you looked lovely yourself."

Thank you. I was just not myself though.

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

"Thank you, you looked lovely yourself.

Thank you. I was just not myself though.

Best not to hijack this thread lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd love to attend such an event but living in Sheffield, London is too far. I don't think there's enough black women up North to organise such an event but we did exist.

There are dozens of us! DOZENS!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would love to go to a BWFC party if there ever as one!

As a black girl who loves the white male I think I’d fit in nicely! Haha.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with seeking what you fancy. "

How far is Wolverhampton again?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I finally know what BWFC is I couldn't ever stop seeing it as Bolton wanderers football club

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Be very careful what you post and how you phrase things in these forums. If you don't add a disclaimer to every statement, you'll have the forum clique and the forum police down on you in a heartbeat.

While we profess to be in a culturally diverse society and we are expected.. rightly so.. to accept it, it's mightily ironic that we get slated for specifying a preference to another skin colour, race, religion to our own. If you're white man and only want a white woman, your racist, if you're white man and only want a black woman, there's some underlying tone of ghetto whore appreciation or dark seated roots of slavery where you subconsciously want to control a black female chambermaid!

This is the absolute hypocrisy and irony of the world we live in and these forums are the daily proof of these.

You're not allowed to find a skin colour attractive or not on here. You can have a favourite shade of brown felt tip pen tho and nobody bats an eyelid. You can worship a white sports car and again, not a problem. Come to show a bit of desire for human skin colour tho and wo betide you!

People think it's all down to skin colour and 'big cock' in my case, or in your case it's down to skin colour and 'seeing if it's pink on the inside'. People make assumptions based on their own ill-founded beliefs. They fail to recognise that humans of a different origin have traits that are attractive and different to the humans of the same origin. By origin I don't mean 'but I was born in England' origin, I refer to ethnic origin.

I find black guys have a far superior respect for me as a woman than most white guys and yet my husband is white.

I'll not keep waffling on, but please, don't get yourself embroiled in any debates on these forums. This place is riddled with pretentious guys who'll say anything they think a woman wants to hear, couples who take whichever side has the strongest majority, and women who'll just play holier than tho to everyone because... although they hate 'labels'.. they'll happily call themselves Unicorns to portray themselves as desirable to an audience they choose to condemn on a daily basis.

It's as fickle as it gets in here fella. Tread with caution.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thank you for your candid and honest opinion.

Looking at the positive side I, and a couple of gorgeous black ladies, have discovered that such a club night does already exist, so now we just have to play the waiting game.

Happy Fabbing! I've got SLS on Friday to look forward to...

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

I’d be very keen for this too - certainly one in the midlands or within driving distance of that would be perfect

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd love to attend such an event but living in Sheffield, London is too far. I don't think there's enough black women up North to organise such an event but we did exist.

There are dozens of us! DOZENS!

So.. they'll be you and I hehe.. party for 2 !

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So far, this thread has revealed the existence of 2 (possibly) relevant nights, both within the M25 area. That's great for a southerner like me, but obviously there is scope for a BWFC party further north of London than Watford!

Does anyone know of existing clubs up there that might be convinced to host one, or do we all pool together, go maverick and start our own?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Be very careful what you post and how you phrase things in these forums. If you don't add a disclaimer to every statement, you'll have the forum clique and the forum police down on you in a heartbeat.

This is the absolute hypocrisy and irony of the world we live in and these forums are the daily proof of these.

I find black guys have a far superior respect for me as a woman than most white guys and yet my husband is white.

It's as fickle as it gets in here fella. Tread with caution.

Yawn

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By *bonynivoryCouple
over a year ago

market harborough

"I just wanted advice on where to look, as the numbers game here is hugely stacked against me. I'll just wait for the next curvy club I suppose.

I too tend to find black women more attractive, not exclusively but just what I find most attractive. If you're looking to meet women on the scene then I can recommend chameleons at the weekend, a very busy club and very attractive women of all types, however propotionately more black women by far than any other club.

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By *bonynivoryCouple
over a year ago

market harborough

"Aren't they all just women?

Err.. No.

Are you saying black women aren't women

I can't believe you are so what did you mean?

I assumed by saying "aren't they all just women" you were suggesting we're all the same. So no, black women aren't the same as other women."

Damn right you are there, just grab the hair by mistake in the heat of the moment and you can lose your dick, lol.

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By *bonynivoryCouple
over a year ago

market harborough

As an example, 3 weeks ago at chameleons as we were leaving a little early there were 20 mixed black and white couples, unusually split evenly f/m and m/F and about 25+ white or other mix. And an amazing normal night.

Although I have to admit it was by far the highest white male, black female mix we've ever seen. And quite a few single girls too,

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