FabSwingers.com forum: Question about smoking ladies and gents

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hey everyone, I was a smoker for over 30 years but decided to try and quit for good in early 2017 and have being using an E-Cig since then...My question is on my profile do I tick 'smoker' or leave it blank? Thanks for any advice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Will you be e-cigging when you meet?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Will you be e-cigging when you meet?"

That would depend on how long the meet was for, If it was for a coffee then No but if it was for a alcoholic drink and dance afterwards then yes

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

You’d be a smoker then, at least in our eyes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You’d be a smoker then, at least in our eyes."

To me too

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

If you are still vaping nicotine, then I would suggest you remain as a smoker. I can taste vaping nicotine.

The alternative is to put it in your profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you are still vaping nicotine, then I would suggest you remain as a smoker. I can taste vaping nicotine.

The alternative is to put it in your profile."

Vaping is far preferable to smoking cigarettes as the smell of fags on people is very off putting. But you should still own up to it in your profile.

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

Tick smoker and then specify in your profile.

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By *ngie1962Couple
over a year ago

Bedford

It’s still smoking in our eyes

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"Hey everyone, I was a smoker for over 30 years but decided to try and quit for good in early 2017 and have being using an E-Cig since then...My question is on my profile do I tick 'smoker' or leave it blank? Thanks for any advice."

You’re a non smoker! If you choose to then there’s no harm in mentioning vaping and some may appreciate it. You do not smoke despite the nonesense replies suggesting you tick smoker !

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By *londieddWoman
over a year ago

fife

yes you are still smoking

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"yes you are still smoking"

No you are not!

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"yes you are still smoking

No you are not!"

Yes you are.

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"yes you are still smoking

No you are not!

Yes you are."

You know that statement is preposterous don’t you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't class vaping as smoking, people don't meet smoker generally because of the smell and taste it leaves on a person, vaping doesn't leave any smell on a person, I would say put non smoker but just explain in your profile that your an ex smoker who vapes x

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By *ants_Nerdy_CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Havant

Vaping and smoking are very much not the same thing, despite looking similar.

Vape doesn't soak into your clothes, and it doesn't make your mouth taste like ash tray. It doesn't stain your teeth and it won't leave a lasting smell behind you when you go.

However a lot of people consider it the same so I'd maybe mention it in your profile.

We vape but are unlikely to ever do it during a meet so haven't put it in our profile.

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By *londieddWoman
over a year ago

fife

"yes you are still smoking

No you are not!"
you are billowing smoke out your mouth like a dragon, to me that is smoking, my opinion.

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By *ringles0510Woman
over a year ago

Central Borders

Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x

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By *ants_Nerdy_CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Havant

"yes you are still smoking

No you are not! you are billowing smoke out your mouth like a dragon, to me that is smoking, my opinion."

You're entitled to your opinion of course, but it's an aerosolised vapour of propylene glycol and vegetable glycerine with nicotine. Research has shown that passive vaping has no negative health effects. Scientifically it's very different to setting tobacco on fire and inhaling it.

Practically speaking it doesn't have the same taste, smell or nastiness as smoking.

I absolutely respect that some people don't like it. However it's not the same.

Really they should add a vaping checkbox.

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"yes you are still smoking

No you are not!

Yes you are.

You know that statement is preposterous don’t you? "

I thought we were playing pantomimes.

Oh no you didn't!

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"yes you are still smoking

No you are not! you are billowing smoke out your mouth like a dragon, to me that is smoking, my opinion."

I vape, I don’t ‘billow’ and certainly not the smoke you refer to! I feel duty bound to offer fact where your opinion is incorrect! Like I would if you said a tomato is a motorbike!

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"yes you are still smoking

No you are not!

Yes you are.

You know that statement is preposterous don’t you?

I thought we were playing pantomimes.

Oh no you didn't!"

But you do don’t you ... really... ?!

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x"

The clue’s in the name!

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x

The clue’s in the name!"

If they're not similar, why don't places let you vape inside?

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x

The clue’s in the name!

If they're not similar, why don't places let you vape inside?"

Some do! But that’s not really a good point. ‘Places’ sometimes don’t allow dogs, food, drink, even gypsies! those ‘places’ make their own policies and decisions regarding what may or may not be allowed.

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By *ants_Nerdy_CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Havant

"Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x

The clue’s in the name!

If they're not similar, why don't places let you vape inside?"

It can still be anti-social, especially in enclosed spaces.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

Reading some of the posts, was waiting for "it's behind you" moment

Sorry, Panto season is now over

But being serious, I'm quitting the baccy & switched to vape, so genuinely intrested in what peoples opinions are x

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x

The clue’s in the name!

If they're not similar, why don't places let you vape inside?

It can still be anti-social, especially in enclosed spaces."

Exactly my point. To me, smoking is the overall name for the anti-social activity that encompasses cigarettes, cigars, , vaping, etc...

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x

The clue’s in the name!

If they're not similar, why don't places let you vape inside?

It can still be anti-social, especially in enclosed spaces.

Exactly my point. To me, smoking is the overall name for the anti-social activity that encompasses cigarettes, cigars, , vaping, etc..."

Ok and by that rationale I call bicycles cars!

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By *ally_weaverMan
over a year ago

Stoneyburn

Congratulations on the lifestyle change OP!

However I would class Vaping as smoking but i do neither so what do i know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you're inhaling something through a tube into your lugs, then exhaling smoke/vapour/whatever else comes out, you are smoking. You can call it vaping, but some people might still not want to be surrounded in a fog of your lung exhalation.

Either, tick smoker and explain on your profile. Or, tick non-smoker and explain on your profile.

I don't mind smokers who aren't heavy smokers, as long as they don't want me to sit outside, in the cold smoking area, or kiss them with nicotine tasting saliva.

Vape I don't mind so much, but I still don't want to be outside in the smoking area.

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x

The clue’s in the name!

If they're not similar, why don't places let you vape inside?

It can still be anti-social, especially in enclosed spaces."

On that point (the last) I totally agree! I don’t go into vape shops where the staff try their best to fill the space with vapour ... I don’t like it.... I also don’t vape in indoor public spaces, nor will you find me ‘billowing’. The nature of the person is antisocial or not, not the activity. More than anything though .... I do not smoke!

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"If you're inhaling something through a tube into your lugs, then exhaling smoke/vapour/whatever else comes out, you are smoking. You can call it vaping, but some people might still not want to be surrounded in a fog of your lung exhalation.

Either, tick smoker and explain on your profile. Or, tick non-smoker and explain on your profile.

I don't mind smokers who aren't heavy smokers, as long as they don't want me to sit outside, in the cold smoking area, or kiss them with nicotine tasting saliva.

Vape I don't mind so much, but I still don't want to be outside in the smoking area."

Untick smoker .... it’s not smoking!

Inhaling from a tube .... if it’s smoke and it’s made from combustion of a ‘fuel’ that’s what’s known as ‘smoking’. If you vaporise some liquid by contact with a heated coil ... that would be vaping.

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x

The clue’s in the name!

If they're not similar, why don't places let you vape inside?

It can still be anti-social, especially in enclosed spaces.

Exactly my point. To me, smoking is the overall name for the anti-social activity that encompasses cigarettes, cigars, , vaping, etc...

Ok and by that rationale I call bicycles cars!"

I'd call them both transport to be honest.

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x

The clue’s in the name!

If they're not similar, why don't places let you vape inside?

It can still be anti-social, especially in enclosed spaces.

Exactly my point. To me, smoking is the overall name for the anti-social activity that encompasses cigarettes, cigars, , vaping, etc...

Ok and by that rationale I call bicycles cars!

I'd call them both transport to be honest. "

Similarly I would understand that both are methods of nicotine delivery..... though there’s a clear difference for all but a fool to see!

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x

The clue’s in the name!

If they're not similar, why don't places let you vape inside?

It can still be anti-social, especially in enclosed spaces.

Exactly my point. To me, smoking is the overall name for the anti-social activity that encompasses cigarettes, cigars, , vaping, etc...

Ok and by that rationale I call bicycles cars!

I'd call them both transport to be honest.

Similarly I would understand that both are methods of nicotine delivery..... though there’s a clear difference for all but a fool to see!"

Quite clearly 'vaping' is not the same as 'smoking' and nobody on this thread is arguing that it is.

However Fab only gives limited options, and most people on this site, I would suggest, would understand 'smoking' as also including 'vaping'.

Just like how 'bisexual' can also include 'pansexual', and 'TV/CD' can include 'genderfluid'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

E-cigarette as a catch all term isn't helpful, but saying vaporiser sounds like something Dr Evil would use. A Clearomiser is no better.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion etc, but the anti-smoking lobby will still see it as smoking.

As an ex-smoker I used the vapouriser as a nicotine replacement therapy. It got me off the nicotine until I was able to break the habit. Spending a month on 0mg Nicotine before packing in completely allowed me to see how much of a habit it became.

My GP congratulated me for stopping smoking when I switched and put me down as ex-smoker despite vaping.

However... I understand those who hate the Monster Cloud producers.

Put whatever you are comfortable with OP.

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x

The clue’s in the name!

If they're not similar, why don't places let you vape inside?

It can still be anti-social, especially in enclosed spaces.

Exactly my point. To me, smoking is the overall name for the anti-social activity that encompasses cigarettes, cigars, , vaping, etc...

Ok and by that rationale I call bicycles cars!

I'd call them both transport to be honest.

Similarly I would understand that both are methods of nicotine delivery..... though there’s a clear difference for all but a fool to see!

Quite clearly 'vaping' is not the same as 'smoking' and nobody on this thread is arguing that it is.

However Fab only gives limited options, and most people on this site, I would suggest, would understand 'smoking' as also including 'vaping'.

Just like how 'bisexual' can also include 'pansexual', and 'TV/CD' can include 'genderfluid'."

Go back and reread!

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By *ally_weaverMan
over a year ago

Stoneyburn

http://explosm.net/comics/4452/

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x"

That's just it I don't think vaping is smoking.. I do not put nicotine into my vape and I don't smell of smoke, is it not the same for someone who smokes a joint but not a cigerret? I don't honestly know

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"yes you are still smoking

No you are not!

Yes you are."

Does someone who smokes a joint every once in a while classed as a smoker too?

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"yes you are still smoking

No you are not!

Yes you are.

Does someone who smokes a joint every once in a while classed as a smoker too? "

I would class them as a smoker.

I do not want to meet them either...

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"yes you are still smoking

No you are not!

Yes you are.

Does someone who smokes a joint every once in a while classed as a smoker too? "

Does it produce smoke? Is it combustion of tobacco?

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By *ringles0510Woman
over a year ago

Central Borders

"Being a smoker myself (trying to stick to vaping only, but not quite there yet) also think e-cigs still class as smoking x

The clue’s in the name!

If they're not similar, why don't places let you vape inside?

It can still be anti-social, especially in enclosed spaces.

Exactly my point. To me, smoking is the overall name for the anti-social activity that encompasses cigarettes, cigars, , vaping, etc..."

Don't class myself as anti-social though, not even when I'm smoking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I vape but won't meet smokers. I respect not all people like vaping but in fairness if I'm meeting someone I don't vape around them so it's all irrelevant x

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

If someone is puffing on something whatever it is I still see them as smoker's. Well done for it not being cigarettes though.

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

To keep everyone happy and to enable folks to make an informed choice do we need another box to tick on Fab?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"To keep everyone happy and to enable folks to make an informed choice do we need another box to tick on Fab?

I would say we need a vape option box it might help me meet people who don't meet smokers but are vapers themselves.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If someone is puffing on something whatever it is I still see them as smoker's. Well done for it not being cigarettes though. "

Thank you

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I vape but won't meet smokers. I respect not all people like vaping but in fairness if I'm meeting someone I don't vape around them so it's all irrelevant x "

Even if it was a social meet such as a coffee? I could understand if it was drinks and dinner then back to their house that you wouldn't want to vape around them but to do it over a coffee meet sounds crazy.

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

"If someone is puffing on something whatever it is I still see them as smoker's. Well done for it not being cigarettes though. "

If the something they’re puffing on is a cigar, cigarette etc and produces smoke you’re right. If it’s vapour that’s produced then it’s not smoking.

Whatever any one “sees”, “classes as”, etc is irrelevant the hard fact is it’s not smoking! Offering opinions regarding something that is simple fact isn’t bright..... vaping is not smoking ... it’s that simple! Attitudes and opinions towards vaping are fine!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I vape but won't meet smokers. I respect not all people like vaping but in fairness if I'm meeting someone I don't vape around them so it's all irrelevant x

No I vape prior to meeting and after not whilst with them unless of course they also vape. They are giving me their time I don't waste it going off to vape. That's just me though, people do what they feel ok with x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mildred gave up smoking 2yrs ago we have put this on our profile that she still vapes.

Smoking and vapeing are totally different things.

You will always find some do and some don't like or approve vapeing

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Mildred gave up smoking 2yrs ago we have put this on our profile that she still vapes.

Smoking and vapeing are totally different things.

You will always find some do and some don't like or approve vapeing "

Thank you for your reply, I have also stated in my profile that I vape too, hopefully it shouldn't be a problem now but as you quite rightly say some will approve and some will disapprove. We done Mildred on quitting smoking x

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