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"Maybe you are being over keen ? It's made us cancel a meet before when the person was just completely over the top" Hmm, I dont think so to be honest - I'm generally pretty laid back , but I'll take a look at myself when or if someone else takes an imterest! | |||
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"Where number 3 is concerned, anyone has the right to not take things further. " Yeah I totally get that and it was all amicable, just a bit dissapointing after the other recent let-downs. | |||
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"Welcome to fab! It's the nature of the beast I'm afraid. " Isnt it just?! | |||
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"Welcome to fab! It's the nature of the beast I'm afraid. Isnt it just?!" Yep I've had one today | |||
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"Welcome to fab! It's the nature of the beast I'm afraid. Isnt it just?!Yep I've had one today " Frustrating eh? | |||
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"Ok, I dont normally like this type of self-indulgence, but after my last three meets have: 1) not shown up after I'd driven 135 miles and made excuses about having to go out (luckily I was driving to the general area anyway) 2) depsite loads of messages for months, decided thay they couldnt meet that day as they had a prior meet arranged (3rd excuse not to meet). 3) Turned up but changed their minds (face pics had been exchanged prior and we'd spoken on the phone) I'm beginning to get a bit paranoid and disheartened. Any advice on where I might be going wrong? Im always upfront about being married before anyone says." It's not them,it's you | |||
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"Ok, I dont normally like this type of self-indulgence, but after my last three meets have: 1) not shown up after I'd driven 135 miles and made excuses about having to go out (luckily I was driving to the general area anyway) 2) depsite loads of messages for months, decided thay they couldnt meet that day as they had a prior meet arranged (3rd excuse not to meet). 3) Turned up but changed their minds (face pics had been exchanged prior and we'd spoken on the phone) I'm beginning to get a bit paranoid and disheartened. Any advice on where I might be going wrong? Im always upfront about being married before anyone says. It's not them,it's you " Clearly it is me, hence asking where I'm going wrong. | |||
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" 1. Personally I think that's too far to travel to meet someone, although you said you were there anyway so that's a bit different. 2. 2 chances. 3 is a bit, dare I say it, desperate. I mean you must of had your doubts after being cancelled on twice with them? 3. At least they showed up. It's difficult on here at times we all know that. A bit of a Christmas break perhaps? " Youre probably right on all counts V. | |||
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female " 1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman. | |||
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female 1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman." Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going! | |||
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female 1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman. Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going! " True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site. | |||
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female 1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman. Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going! True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site." On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here. This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted. | |||
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female 1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman. Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going! True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site. On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here. This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted. " Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about? | |||
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female 1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman. Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going! True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site. On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here. This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted. Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about?" You're married, but you don't meet married men? How does that work? Everyone lies on here in one way or another. Our experience is that most of the alleged single guys on here are attached in some way. The reality however is that lots of women will not meet openly attached men. Hence by being openly attached you are significantly reducing your chances. On the morality point, as you are deceiving someone who is presumably very important to you, I can't see any problem with you deceiving strangers on a swingers site. You are putting your marriage at risk for the sake of some casual sex, yet handicapping yourself in obtaining the said sex. | |||
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female 1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman. Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going! True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site. On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here. This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted. Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about? You're married, but you don't meet married men? How does that work? Everyone lies on here in one way or another. Our experience is that most of the alleged single guys on here are attached in some way. The reality however is that lots of women will not meet openly attached men. Hence by being openly attached you are significantly reducing your chances. On the morality point, as you are deceiving someone who is presumably very important to you, I can't see any problem with you deceiving strangers on a swingers site. You are putting your marriage at risk for the sake of some casual sex, yet handicapping yourself in obtaining the said sex. " I'm not married hun. | |||
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female 1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman. Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going! True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site. On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here. This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted. Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about? You're married, but you don't meet married men? How does that work? Everyone lies on here in one way or another. Our experience is that most of the alleged single guys on here are attached in some way. The reality however is that lots of women will not meet openly attached men. Hence by being openly attached you are significantly reducing your chances. On the morality point, as you are deceiving someone who is presumably very important to you, I can't see any problem with you deceiving strangers on a swingers site. You are putting your marriage at risk for the sake of some casual sex, yet handicapping yourself in obtaining the said sex. " Interesting point. And yeah, no doubt a significant number of "single" men actualy aren't... | |||
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female 1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman. Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going! True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site. On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here. This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted. Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about? You're married, but you don't meet married men? How does that work? Everyone lies on here in one way or another. Our experience is that most of the alleged single guys on here are attached in some way. The reality however is that lots of women will not meet openly attached men. Hence by being openly attached you are significantly reducing your chances. On the morality point, as you are deceiving someone who is presumably very important to you, I can't see any problem with you deceiving strangers on a swingers site. You are putting your marriage at risk for the sake of some casual sex, yet handicapping yourself in obtaining the said sex. Sorry. Thought you were the op! My point is that, from his point of view, he would be best off lying to get meets. He lies to his wife, why should he care about lying to me and you? I'm not married hun. " | |||
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"Ok, I dont normally like this type of self-indulgence, but after my last three meets have: 1) not shown up after I'd driven 135 miles and made excuses about having to go out (luckily I was driving to the general area anyway) 2) depsite loads of messages for months, decided thay they couldnt meet that day as they had a prior meet arranged (3rd excuse not to meet). 3) Turned up but changed their minds (face pics had been exchanged prior and we'd spoken on the phone) I'm beginning to get a bit paranoid and disheartened. Any advice on where I might be going wrong? Im always upfront about being married before anyone says." Arrange a meet at a club night Therefore should they let you down at least you stand a chance of still playing and failing that still a fun night out You can meet like minded people from your area and get yourself out there a little All about networking x | |||
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"Ok, I dont normally like this type of self-indulgence, but after my last three meets have: 1) not shown up after I'd driven 135 miles and made excuses about having to go out (luckily I was driving to the general area anyway) 2) depsite loads of messages for months, decided thay they couldnt meet that day as they had a prior meet arranged (3rd excuse not to meet). 3) Turned up but changed their minds (face pics had been exchanged prior and we'd spoken on the phone) I'm beginning to get a bit paranoid and disheartened. Any advice on where I might be going wrong? Im always upfront about being married before anyone says. Arrange a meet at a club night Therefore should they let you down at least you stand a chance of still playing and failing that still a fun night out You can meet like minded people from your area and get yourself out there a little All about networking x " Yeah - never been to a club yet, not properly anyway. Went to club 29 in Leiceater a few weeks back but it was empty. | |||
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female 1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman. Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going! True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site. On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here. This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted. Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about?" exactly this | |||
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"Where number 3 is concerned, anyone has the right to not take things further. " i think thats fine | |||
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female 1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman. Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going! True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site. On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here. This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted. Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about? You're married, but you don't meet married men? How does that work? Everyone lies on here in one way or another. Our experience is that most of the alleged single guys on here are attached in some way. The reality however is that lots of women will not meet openly attached men. Hence by being openly attached you are significantly reducing your chances. On the morality point, as you are deceiving someone who is presumably very important to you, I can't see any problem with you deceiving strangers on a swingers site. You are putting your marriage at risk for the sake of some casual sex, yet handicapping yourself in obtaining the said sex. " There is every problem with deceiving people on here. It's called taking away our choice to make an informed decision to meet or not. | |||
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"Are you sure 1 and 2 were actually women? I would never travel to a meet with an alleged single woman without confirmation via phone or cam that they were actually female 1 was a man - i prefer women but dont mind a bit of MM play every once in a while. 2 is definitley a woman. Fair enough. To be honest, and speaking as one middle aged man to another, I am afraid fabs will always be a struggle. You are a single man, middle aged, "average" and married. That means the number of women who will be willing to meet will be very small. Frankly getting two real women to talk /meet with you is pretty good going! True - jusy very frustrating when it finally seemed that I was making some headway on the site. On the plus side, you seem a reasonable, friendly type of guy which puts you one up on lots of men on here. This is controversial, but I would lie about being married. You are lying to your wife, so I don't see lying to randoms on here as a moral issue. If you are only looking for nsa meets, with a bit of thought you are unlikely to be busted. Personally, as someone who doesn't meet married men, I would want to know. Most women on here will suss you out anyway and if they find you are lying about being single, what else might you be lying about? You're married, but you don't meet married men? How does that work? Everyone lies on here in one way or another. Our experience is that most of the alleged single guys on here are attached in some way. The reality however is that lots of women will not meet openly attached men. Hence by being openly attached you are significantly reducing your chances. On the morality point, as you are deceiving someone who is presumably very important to you, I can't see any problem with you deceiving strangers on a swingers site. You are putting your marriage at risk for the sake of some casual sex, yet handicapping yourself in obtaining the said sex. There is every problem with deceiving people on here. It's called taking away our choice to make an informed decision to meet or not. " Yes I know. My point is that he is deceiving someone who is presumably very important to him, given that, it seems a bit strange to have moral qualms about deceiving randoms on fabs. Lying and deceit is the basis of his swinging. What's another lie to strangers? | |||
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"I kept getting cancelled by a girl who kept contacting me convincing me that she was genuinely interested but had a busy life which I understood at first but then the excuses became tedious. I did a quick search on her and it turned out she was cancelling our meets because she's a fulltime prostitute that according to her clients veri's were on the same dates our meets were planned. Needless to say we don't speak anymore but when I did ask her why she did it this was her response - "f*** you you insecure little b**** no wonder no one wants to meet you" . If I can just add to that I've had 6 veri's in the 6 weeks I've been here which if I'm honest isn't too bad" I hope you reported her | |||
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"Welcome to fab! It's the nature of the beast I'm afraid. Isnt it just?!" Some of the people on here are fantasists xx | |||
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"Welcome to fab! It's the nature of the beast I'm afraid. Isnt it just?! Some of the people on here are fantasists xx" Correction... Most are. | |||
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"Ok, I dont normally like this type of self-indulgence, but after my last three meets have: 1) not shown up after I'd driven 135 miles and made excuses about having to go out (luckily I was driving to the general area anyway) 2) depsite loads of messages for months, decided thay they couldnt meet that day as they had a prior meet arranged (3rd excuse not to meet). 3) Turned up but changed their minds (face pics had been exchanged prior and we'd spoken on the phone) I'm beginning to get a bit paranoid and disheartened. Any advice on where I might be going wrong? Im always upfront about being married before anyone says." Everyone is in the same boat, happens to us all. | |||
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"I kept getting cancelled by a girl who kept contacting me convincing me that she was genuinely interested but had a busy life which I understood at first but then the excuses became tedious. I did a quick search on her and it turned out she was cancelling our meets because she's a fulltime prostitute that according to her clients veri's were on the same dates our meets were planned. Needless to say we don't speak anymore but when I did ask her why she did it this was her response - "f*** you you insecure little b**** no wonder no one wants to meet you" . If I can just add to that I've had 6 veri's in the 6 weeks I've been here which if I'm honest isn't too badI hope you reported her" I did but not sure if fab can take any action as she is doing it via another site, as for the pm language/abuse she is still here so .. | |||
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"Another thing to bear in mind as a very general rule, if you've been chatting for months and no meet, that's another warning sign. In my experience chatters ain't meeters! " In my experience pretty much nobody's a meeter! | |||
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"Welcome to fab! It's the nature of the beast I'm afraid. " yes totally agree sex is a luxury and many other things come before it in life ,decisions are based on life as long as they let you know they can't make it they've at least done the right thing by you | |||
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