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"You're on a site overflowing with thousands of fit as fuck men who can accommodate, who realising they have fierce competition make an effort and actually write a profile, setting out what they're looking for and what they bring to the party. Make of that what you will." Oh gosh say it how it is lol  | |||
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"It gets harder the longer your here. 'New meat' at least has the wow factor going for them. It's now or never for you dude. "Now or never?  | |||
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"It gets harder the longer your here. 'New meat' at least has the wow factor going for them. It's now or never for you dude.
Now or never? "Haven't you heard of a "Use by" date? It's usually tattooed onto your balls, on the day you sign up here... | |||
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"You're on a site overflowing with thousands of fit as fuck men who can accommodate, who realising they have fierce competition make an effort and actually write a profile, setting out what they're looking for and what they bring to the party. Make of that what you will." You don’t post enough | |||
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"You're on a site overflowing with thousands of fit as fuck men who can accommodate, who realising they have fierce competition make an effort and actually write a profile, setting out what they're looking for and what they bring to the party. Make of that what you will." Standing ovation for this answer !!!! | |||
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"It’s getting frustrating " Patience and convenience my friend | |||
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"Your wasting your time on this site.. Try visiting a club or social. There are so many single guys and time wasters. Most couples prefer to use clubs meet face to face. We only use site to chat, check club updates and invite anyone we are interested to club, at least that way if they don't turn up there are always others to have fun with " Clubs aren't all that, especially for single guys (I know from experience), and giving the impression to someone that they will have success in clubs is wrong | |||
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"It's all to do with luck and timing on here. Yeah your profile and pics play a part in it but the right message at the right time is all it takes. Best of luck fella " Yeah partly.. but you have to make an effort, work at it, create something people want and you will be rewarded.. | |||
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"You're on a site overflowing with thousands of fit as fuck men who can accommodate, who realising they have fierce competition make an effort and actually write a profile, setting out what they're looking for and what they bring to the party. Make of that what you will." Wow. Straight to the point. Glad I never posted anything like this when I arrived. I'd have left pronto lol | |||
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"Your wasting your time on this site.. Try visiting a club or social. There are so many single guys and time wasters. Most couples prefer to use clubs meet face to face. We only use site to chat, check club updates and invite anyone we are interested to club, at least that way if they don't turn up there are always others to have fun with Clubs aren't all that, especially for single guys (I know from experience), and giving the impression to someone that they will have success in clubs is wrong "Couldn't agree more with this. My only two bad experiences here on fab were both at clubs in the north west when I first joined 2 years ago. The experiences put me of clubs and couples completely. I even tried it a second time at a different club as I thought it was a one off but had the exact same experience Clubs are not for everyone. It took me till a few months ago to be convinced to go to a fab social. | |||
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"Did you honestly think it’s “”Instashag” here? 3 weeks in & nothing, do you realise how stiff the competition is on here? Have a look at the profiles of some successful single males on here, & ask yourself am I really doing the best I possibly can to improve my chances of meeting?" Love the pun | |||
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"Did you honestly think it’s “”Instashag” here? 3 weeks in & nothing, do you realise how stiff the competition is on here? Have a look at the profiles of some successful single males on here, & ask yourself am I really doing the best I possibly can to improve my chances of meeting? Love the pun "I also love how some people think swinging is a 'competition'. 
People meet for sex because they like the idea of each other, not because somebody won. | |||
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"Your wasting your time on this site.. Try visiting a club or social. There are so many single guys and time wasters. Most couples prefer to use clubs meet face to face. We only use site to chat, check club updates and invite anyone we are interested to club, at least that way if they don't turn up there are always others to have fun with Clubs aren't all that, especially for single guys (I know from experience), and giving the impression to someone that they will have success in clubs is wrong
Couldn't agree more with this.
My only two bad experiences here on fab were both at clubs in the north west when I first joined 2 years ago. The experiences put me of clubs and couples completely. I even tried it a second time at a different club as I thought it was a one off but had the exact same experience Clubs are not for everyone.
It took me till a few months ago to be convinced to go to a fab social."The two clubs I visited were in the North West too fella, glad it wasn't just me | |||
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"You're on a site overflowing with thousands of fit as fuck men who can accommodate, who realising they have fierce competition make an effort and actually write a profile, setting out what they're looking for and what they bring to the party. Make of that what you will." | |||
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"You're on a site overflowing with thousands of fit as fuck men who can accommodate, who realising they have fierce competition make an effort and actually write a profile, setting out what they're looking for and what they bring to the party. Make of that what you will." Wow. In a nutshell, it's how it is. | |||
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"Your wasting your time on this site.. Try visiting a club or social. There are so many single guys and time wasters. Most couples prefer to use clubs meet face to face. We only use site to chat, check club updates and invite anyone we are interested to club, at least that way if they don't turn up there are always others to have fun with Clubs aren't all that, especially for single guys (I know from experience), and giving the impression to someone that they will have success in clubs is wrong
Couldn't agree more with this.
My only two bad experiences here on fab were both at clubs in the north west when I first joined 2 years ago. The experiences put me of clubs and couples completely. I even tried it a second time at a different club as I thought it was a one off but had the exact same experience Clubs are not for everyone.
It took me till a few months ago to be convinced to go to a fab social."Your attending/ talking to the wrong people I think ! All clubs are different too | |||
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"Your wasting your time on this site.. Try visiting a club or social. There are so many single guys and time wasters. Most couples prefer to use clubs meet face to face. We only use site to chat, check club updates and invite anyone we are interested to club, at least that way if they don't turn up there are always others to have fun with Clubs aren't all that, especially for single guys (I know from experience), and giving the impression to someone that they will have success in clubs is wrong
Couldn't agree more with this.
My only two bad experiences here on fab were both at clubs in the north west when I first joined 2 years ago. The experiences put me of clubs and couples completely. I even tried it a second time at a different club as I thought it was a one off but had the exact same experience Clubs are not for everyone.
It took me till a few months ago to be convinced to go to a fab social.
Your attending/ talking to the wrong people I think !
All clubs are different too "Our experiences are different...you're a female, I'm a male. We areboth treated very differently at clubs in many ways. So to make a quick judgement that I'm 'obviously' chatting to the wrong people and went to the wrong clubs seems a bit trite. I'm sure the two clubs I went to have very happy customers and probably good regulars. It wasn't a slant on them. It was just my experience and I was giving a more balanced view on the idea that clubs are the best place to go and get meets. It wasn't form my experience....far from it. I found and felt a bit unwanted. If i had had tits and a flashing fanny I'm sure if have had a different experience with the same people that were there....  | |||
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"Your wasting your time on this site.. Try visiting a club or social. There are so many single guys and time wasters. Most couples prefer to use clubs meet face to face. We only use site to chat, check club updates and invite anyone we are interested to club, at least that way if they don't turn up there are always others to have fun with Clubs aren't all that, especially for single guys (I know from experience), and giving the impression to someone that they will have success in clubs is wrong
Couldn't agree more with this.
My only two bad experiences here on fab were both at clubs in the north west when I first joined 2 years ago. The experiences put me of clubs and couples completely. I even tried it a second time at a different club as I thought it was a one off but had the exact same experience Clubs are not for everyone.
It took me till a few months ago to be convinced to go to a fab social.
Your attending/ talking to the wrong people I think !
All clubs are different too
Our experiences are different...you're a female, I'm a male. We areboth treated very differently at clubs in many ways. So to make a quick judgement that I'm 'obviously' chatting to the wrong people and went to the wrong clubs seems a bit trite. I'm sure the two clubs I went to have very happy customers and probably good regulars. It wasn't a slant on them. It was just my experience and I was giving a more balanced view on the idea that clubs are the best place to go and get meets. It wasn't form my experience....far from it. I found and felt a bit unwanted. If i had had tits and a flashing fanny I'm sure if have had a different experience with the same people that were there.... "I agree with the feeling of being 'unwanted', I was definitely shown a cold shoulder from the couples when I visited, even to the point of people turning their heads when I looked or wandered in their direction. The other single guys in there were far more friendly, probably because nobody was talking to them either. | |||
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"Your wasting your time on this site.. Try visiting a club or social. There are so many single guys and time wasters. Most couples prefer to use clubs meet face to face. We only use site to chat, check club updates and invite anyone we are interested to club, at least that way if they don't turn up there are always others to have fun with Clubs aren't all that, especially for single guys (I know from experience), and giving the impression to someone that they will have success in clubs is wrong
Couldn't agree more with this.
My only two bad experiences here on fab were both at clubs in the north west when I first joined 2 years ago. The experiences put me of clubs and couples completely. I even tried it a second time at a different club as I thought it was a one off but had the exact same experience Clubs are not for everyone.
It took me till a few months ago to be convinced to go to a fab social.
Your attending/ talking to the wrong people I think !
All clubs are different too
Our experiences are different...you're a female, I'm a male. We areboth treated very differently at clubs in many ways. So to make a quick judgement that I'm 'obviously' chatting to the wrong people and went to the wrong clubs seems a bit trite. I'm sure the two clubs I went to have very happy customers and probably good regulars. It wasn't a slant on them. It was just my experience and I was giving a more balanced view on the idea that clubs are the best place to go and get meets. It wasn't form my experience....far from it. I found and felt a bit unwanted. If i had had tits and a flashing fanny I'm sure if have had a different experience with the same people that were there.... "I was actually just pointing it out from the point of view as to what I’ve seen at clubs! Not from a woman’s point of view And not all women flash Fanny’s and boobs !!!! | |||
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"Spam a FAF copy and paste message to all women and couples in a 50 mile radius. Winner winner chicken dinner "Without sounding funny... I'd say some have had more luck with that approach as It continues to be an irritant on the forums lol. | |||
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"It’s getting frustrating " Picture the scene... You go to a new pub, and when you walk through the door you notice that the guys outnumber the girls by a factor of 10/1. Do you think you stand much of a chance getting a date? In this scenario, how you dress, how you carry yourself, how you interact, and even how you smell, is very important, it all goes to making that memorable first impression. Now, back to reality of Fab. Here, you have one tool to use, one "window" to advertise in, your profile. Ask yourself, "Am I really selling myself as well as I can?". | |||
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"It’s getting frustrating Picture the scene... You go to a new pub, and when you walk through the door you notice that the guys outnumber the girls by a factor of 10/1. Do you think you stand much of a chance getting a date? In this scenario, how you dress, how you carry yourself, how you interact, and even how you smell, is very important, it all goes to making that memorable first impression. Now, back to reality of Fab. Here, you have one tool to use, one "window" to advertise in, your profile. Ask yourself, "Am I really selling myself as well as I can?"." Great advice | |||
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"Your wasting your time on this site.. Try visiting a club or social. There are so many single guys and time wasters. Most couples prefer to use clubs meet face to face. We only use site to chat, check club updates and invite anyone we are interested to club, at least that way if they don't turn up there are always others to have fun with Clubs aren't all that, especially for single guys (I know from experience), and giving the impression to someone that they will have success in clubs is wrong
Couldn't agree more with this.
My only two bad experiences here on fab were both at clubs in the north west when I first joined 2 years ago. The experiences put me of clubs and couples completely. I even tried it a second time at a different club as I thought it was a one off but had the exact same experience Clubs are not for everyone.
It took me till a few months ago to be convinced to go to a fab social.
Your attending/ talking to the wrong people I think !
All clubs are different too
Our experiences are different...you're a female, I'm a male. We areboth treated very differently at clubs in many ways. So to make a quick judgement that I'm 'obviously' chatting to the wrong people and went to the wrong clubs seems a bit trite. I'm sure the two clubs I went to have very happy customers and probably good regulars. It wasn't a slant on them. It was just my experience and I was giving a more balanced view on the idea that clubs are the best place to go and get meets. It wasn't form my experience....far from it. I found and felt a bit unwanted. If i had had tits and a flashing fanny I'm sure if have had a different experience with the same people that were there....
I was actually just pointing it out from the point of view as to what I’ve seen at clubs!
Not from a woman’s point of view
And not all women flash Fanny’s and boobs !!!!
"I didn't imply all do... i implied as a female its much easier. I do ok with meets and it's not been through clubs and socials at all. Other guys will do better at clubs and struggle with get direct one to one meets through fab. I was giving an alternative. | |||
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"OP there are (at time of writing this) over 28 thousand users online. Of these approximately 90% are single men. That means you are one of over 25,000 men competing for the attention of just 3,000 ladies and couples. The odds are not in your favour so you need to stand out from the crowd to attract attention from ladies and couples. When I receive a message the first thing I do is to read the senders profile. If I don't see anything that interests me I delete the message without reading it. Many ladies and couples do the same. We simply don't have enough hours in the day to talk to everyone who messages us so we have to be selective about who we do choose to chat with. I would recommend doing a forum search for profile advice - there are thousands of threads already on here. Pick out the good bits and see if any of the advice can be helpful to your profile. Stick around the forums and get involved in the chat. We are generally a good bunch and meets do happen from getting to know people this way. Social gatherings are organised through the forums too and are a great way of meeting people. The same goes for the chat rooms."
These stats are useful but rarely paint the picture one is trying to convey. The reality is that maybe 30% of all those ladies are getting 90% of the attention.
The secret is to look for those who are clearly getting less attention (for whatever reason) and increase your chances 1000 fold in getting a reply to your well crafted message. Some popular ladies get hundreds and hundreds of messages every day....so think about it. If you add one one to it what are your chances?
Many ladies use the forums as a way to find interesting guys. That's probably a very good approach for ladies. For me I've found using that a bit like being the needle in the hay stack as the forum ladies will be ones more often approached, so if I'm being very honest I tend not to allow the other guys appoach them and I'll focus elsewhere.
Theres many real diamonds quietly waiting to be found....some even just lurking on forums just reading but not participating.
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"OP there are (at time of writing this) over 28 thousand users online. Of these approximately 90% are single men. That means you are one of over 25,000 men competing for the attention of just 3,000 ladies and couples. The odds are not in your favour so you need to stand out from the crowd to attract attention from ladies and couples. When I receive a message the first thing I do is to read the senders profile. If I don't see anything that interests me I delete the message without reading it. Many ladies and couples do the same. We simply don't have enough hours in the day to talk to everyone who messages us so we have to be selective about who we do choose to chat with. I would recommend doing a forum search for profile advice - there are thousands of threads already on here. Pick out the good bits and see if any of the advice can be helpful to your profile. Stick around the forums and get involved in the chat. We are generally a good bunch and meets do happen from getting to know people this way. Social gatherings are organised through the forums too and are a great way of meeting people. The same goes for the chat rooms.
These stats are useful but rarely paint the picture one is trying to convey. The reality is that maybe 30% of all those ladies are getting 90% of the attention.
The secret is to look for those who are clearly getting less attention (for whatever reason) and increase your chances 1000 fold in getting a reply to your well crafted message. Some popular ladies get hundreds and hundreds of messages every day....so think about it. If you add one one to it what are your chances?
Many ladies use the forums as a way to find interesting guys. That's probably a very good approach for ladies. For me I've found using that a bit like being the needle in the hay stack as the forum ladies will be ones more often approached, so if I'm being very honest I tend not to allow the other guys appoach them and I'll focus elsewhere.
Theres many real diamonds quietly waiting to be found....some even just lurking on forums just reading but not participating.
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"The secret is to look for those who are clearly getting less attention (for whatever reason) and increase your chances 1000 fold in getting a reply to your well crafted message. Some popular ladies get hundreds and hundreds of messages every day....so think about it. If you add one one to it what are your chances? " So basically, any hole is a goal! Go for the ones who can't get meets.  | |||
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"It gets harder the longer your here. 'New meat' at least has the wow factor going for them. It's now or never for you dude. "
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"OP there are (at time of writing this) over 28 thousand users online. Of these approximately 90% are single men. That means you are one of over 25,000 men competing for the attention of just 3,000 ladies and couples. The odds are not in your favour so you need to stand out from the crowd to attract attention from ladies and couples. When I receive a message the first thing I do is to read the senders profile. If I don't see anything that interests me I delete the message without reading it. Many ladies and couples do the same. We simply don't have enough hours in the day to talk to everyone who messages us so we have to be selective about who we do choose to chat with. I would recommend doing a forum search for profile advice - there are thousands of threads already on here. Pick out the good bits and see if any of the advice can be helpful to your profile. Stick around the forums and get involved in the chat. We are generally a good bunch and meets do happen from getting to know people this way. Social gatherings are organised through the forums too and are a great way of meeting people. The same goes for the chat rooms." It's not quite as bad as that. The breakdown is actually roughly single guys 75%, couples 20% and single women 5%. Of the couples roughly half will meet single guys. So there are roughly 5 single guys for every woman or couple willing to meet them. Given that a large proportion of single guys have no idea (cock pics, fancy a fuck messages), any guy with a a decent photo and some social skills will get a meet. | |||
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"The secret is to look for those who are clearly getting less attention (for whatever reason) and increase your chances 1000 fold in getting a reply to your well crafted message. Some popular ladies get hundreds and hundreds of messages every day....so think about it. If you add one one to it what are your chances? So basically, any hole is a goal! Go for the ones who can't get meets. "How did you interpret that like that? Shakes my head in disbelief, ffs.
Avoid those who are so cynical too... they bring it to the bed with them.
I laugh at how some interpret things....clearly distorting what was actually said.
Maybe you can look at it as filtering.
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Would you waste your time trying to get the attention of some lady who has 100 fit virile young hunks hanging around her. If she is interested in me she'll contact me. However for the purpose of getting meets and finding some very interesting people (looks are less important than a good stimulating mind for me), then there are many overlooked because they are less popular (they don't post ' look at me or veri my pics' please statuses or forum posts)
If I choose to do my search for ladies who are not on the top of the popular tables it neither means I feel I'm not good enough for then nor does it mean that those who aren't on the top are willing to open their fannies to be plugged by anyone.
I think your reply belittles any female on here. If you're the female of the couple then it's completly shameful, if you're the male then it might be best to rethink what you just posted.
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"OP there are (at time of writing this) over 28 thousand users online. Of these approximately 90% are single men. That means you are one of over 25,000 men competing for the attention of just 3,000 ladies and couples. The odds are not in your favour so you need to stand out from the crowd to attract attention from ladies and couples. When I receive a message the first thing I do is to read the senders profile. If I don't see anything that interests me I delete the message without reading it. Many ladies and couples do the same. We simply don't have enough hours in the day to talk to everyone who messages us so we have to be selective about who we do choose to chat with. I would recommend doing a forum search for profile advice - there are thousands of threads already on here. Pick out the good bits and see if any of the advice can be helpful to your profile. Stick around the forums and get involved in the chat. We are generally a good bunch and meets do happen from getting to know people this way. Social gatherings are organised through the forums too and are a great way of meeting people. The same goes for the chat rooms. It's not quite as bad as that. The breakdown is actually roughly single guys 75%, couples 20% and single women 5%. Of the couples roughly half will meet single guys. So there are roughly 5 single guys for every woman or couple willing to meet them. Given that a large proportion of single guys have no idea (cock pics, fancy a fuck messages), any guy with a a decent photo and some social skills will get a meet. " How does 75% single guys and 5% single ladies result in 5x as many guys to ladies? Maybe I've completely misread what you were saying. | |||
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"The secret is to look for those who are clearly getting less attention (for whatever reason) and increase your chances 1000 fold in getting a reply to your well crafted message. Some popular ladies get hundreds and hundreds of messages every day....so think about it. If you add one one to it what are your chances? So basically, any hole is a goal! Go for the ones who can't get meets. "How I read it too!
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"The secret is to look for those who are clearly getting less attention (for whatever reason) and increase your chances 1000 fold in getting a reply to your well crafted message. Some popular ladies get hundreds and hundreds of messages every day....so think about it. If you add one one to it what are your chances? So basically, any hole is a goal! Go for the ones who can't get meets.
How did you interpret that like that? Shakes my head in disbelief, ffs.
Avoid those who are so cynical too... they bring it to the bed with them.
I laugh at how some interpret things....clearly distorting what was actually said.
Maybe you can look at it as filtering.
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Would you waste your time trying to get the attention of some lady who has 100 fit virile young hunks hanging around her. If she is interested in me she'll contact me. However for the purpose of getting meets and finding some very interesting people (looks are less important than a good stimulating mind for me), then there are many overlooked because they are less popular (they don't post ' look at me or veri my pics' please statuses or forum posts)
If I choose to do my search for ladies who are not on the top of the popular tables it neither means I feel I'm not good enough for then nor does it mean that those who aren't on the top are willing to open their fannies to be plugged by anyone.
I think your reply belittles any female on here. If you're the female of the couple then it's completly shameful, if you're the male then it might be best to rethink what you just posted.
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"OP there are (at time of writing this) over 28 thousand users online. Of these approximately 90% are single men. That means you are one of over 25,000 men competing for the attention of just 3,000 ladies and couples. The odds are not in your favour so you need to stand out from the crowd to attract attention from ladies and couples. When I receive a message the first thing I do is to read the senders profile. If I don't see anything that interests me I delete the message without reading it. Many ladies and couples do the same. We simply don't have enough hours in the day to talk to everyone who messages us so we have to be selective about who we do choose to chat with. I would recommend doing a forum search for profile advice - there are thousands of threads already on here. Pick out the good bits and see if any of the advice can be helpful to your profile. Stick around the forums and get involved in the chat. We are generally a good bunch and meets do happen from getting to know people this way. Social gatherings are organised through the forums too and are a great way of meeting people. The same goes for the chat rooms. It's not quite as bad as that. The breakdown is actually roughly single guys 75%, couples 20% and single women 5%. Of the couples roughly half will meet single guys. So there are roughly 5 single guys for every woman or couple willing to meet them. Given that a large proportion of single guys have no idea (cock pics, fancy a fuck messages), any guy with a a decent photo and some social skills will get a meet. How does 75% single guys and 5% single ladies result in 5x as many guys to ladies? Maybe I've completely misread what you were saying." Half of 20% of couples as well. So out of every 100 on here you typically have 75 men 10 couples who meet men 10 couples who don't meet men 5 women Hence 75 men to 15 couples willing to meet men plus women = 5 to 1 Based on a few surveys I have done. | |||
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"The secret is to look for those who are clearly getting less attention (for whatever reason) and increase your chances 1000 fold in getting a reply to your well crafted message. " So what does that actually mean? To me that means don't bother with the hotties, lower you sights a bit! And don't try to say MY answer belittles women! YOU are the one who is telling men to lower their sights, not me. In fact I was saying that your attitude is wrong. No one should shag someone just because they can't get anyone else. THAT belittles women! But anyway, tell me how, after quoting and answering you did I get it wrong? Perhaps you had better rethink what YOU typed! | |||
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"The secret is to look for those who are clearly getting less attention (for whatever reason) and increase your chances 1000 fold in getting a reply to your well crafted message. So what does that actually mean? To me that means don't bother with the hotties, lower you sights a bit! And don't try to say MY answer belittles women! YOU are the one who is telling men to lower their sights, not me. In fact I was saying that your attitude is wrong. No one should shag someone just because they can't get anyone else. THAT belittles women! But anyway, tell me how, after quoting and answering you did I get it wrong? Perhaps you had better rethink what YOU typed! "Anger? Let's try to answer your misinterpretations one by one ok. 1. Where did I say lower your standards? I said look elsewhere... don't just focus where most guts are focused. You're missing many lovely genuine diamonds. 2. Your answer does belittle all those that you've not labeled as 'hotties' as not worth being considered as a very good alternative to the popular ladies.... because apparently anyone who considers looking at them is looking at them as 'a shag' because that guy apparently has lowered his standard to look at them. That's is very demeaning imo. If you read carefully again what I said in my original message (which wasn't cut and selected out of contect), you may find i said to consider elsewhere other the the obvious most popular... This infers a choice not that I or the Op can't get the popular ladies. It's an option about increasing ones chances of getting replies to messages and then hopefully a meet. ( simple additional filter...) My experience on here has also been the very popular ladies tend not to have many repeat meets ( and if you bothered to read my profile you'll have noted that's is what I'm always looking for, and as has been.oroved in the past I've turned down a couple of meets because I sensed that was to be the case. Would you consider rethinking after that that maybe you misinterpreted me or is that beneath you? | |||
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"don't you just love it when people come up with stats and figures out of thin air? I find it hilarious "It's not out of thin air. I've done a few surveys based on 200 profiles and they always turn up with roughly a 75,20,5 breakdown. That counts as pretty good evidence in my book. | |||
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"The secret is to look for those who are clearly getting less attention (for whatever reason) and increase your chances 1000 fold in getting a reply to your well crafted message. So what does that actually mean? To me that means don't bother with the hotties, lower you sights a bit! And don't try to say MY answer belittles women! YOU are the one who is telling men to lower their sights, not me. In fact I was saying that your attitude is wrong. No one should shag someone just because they can't get anyone else. THAT belittles women! But anyway, tell me how, after quoting and answering you did I get it wrong? Perhaps you had better rethink what YOU typed! "That's a bizzare argument. If I could choose anyone in the world for casual sex I might choose Jennifer Anniston. As she is not going to have sex with me, I am perfectly content to have sex with other women Does that belittle them? | |||
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"3 weeks in and you’ve not had a shag?
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"The secret is to look for those who are clearly getting less attention (for whatever reason) and increase your chances 1000 fold in getting a reply to your well crafted message. So what does that actually mean? To me that means don't bother with the hotties, lower you sights a bit! And don't try to say MY answer belittles women! YOU are the one who is telling men to lower their sights, not me. In fact I was saying that your attitude is wrong. No one should shag someone just because they can't get anyone else. THAT belittles women! But anyway, tell me how, after quoting and answering you did I get it wrong? Perhaps you had better rethink what YOU typed!
That's a bizzare argument. If I could choose anyone in the world for casual sex I might choose Jennifer Anniston. As she is not going to have sex with me, I am perfectly content to have sex with other women
Does that belittle them? "Apparently ... I think I need to go back to the drawing board and rethink my approach. It would seem that the women I've met are all substandard and not worth my time nor don't value me spending the time getting to know for who they are rather than objectifying them and primarily wanting them because of their bodies. Maybe I'm not shallow enough for fab  | |||
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"My advice, it’s your profile/pics. I’m no expert, but it’s your opportunity to present yourself to prospective play mates. Be adventurous but truthful. This is a swingers site with many fabulous and not so fabulous people who are all seeking that special meet. Yes, sometimes it presents a challenge with so many couples but turn it around and that challenge can also be very pleasurable for all. " here here | |||
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"Omg!! U must think that all ladies on here are just waiting for u to make them and offer and that we would jump at it... U need to sell yourself not just sit there and wait .. u have only been here 3 weeks Ffs!! " What are you waiting for then? | |||
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"Have a look for any local socials or visit a club! .Its a good way to meet new people, build some fab friends and have some fun along the way. " Clubs aren't all that for single guys fella | |||
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"That's a bizzare argument. If I could choose anyone in the world for casual sex I might choose Jennifer Anniston. As she is not going to have sex with me, I am perfectly content to have sex with other women Does that belittle them? " Not at all and that is not what I said. But to say "The secret is to look for those who are clearly getting less attention" implies any hole is a goal. I would never suggest that having sex with ANY woman would belittle them, but I would suggest searching out those that are not popular is doing just what single guys get accused of, going for the hole. I know it happens, but to suggest that a guy does that just to get a meet is not really something to put in an open forum. OK, not something I would type! | |||
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"My fab experience, for what it is worth... Put a bit of effort into your profile. If you can't stand out, then at least stand proud. Look at all the advice in the various threads and pick what works for you. Bear in mind there is no magic formula. Try and appeal to all and you'll appeal to none. Be yourself. Get into the chat rooms or participate in the forums. The more you are known, the better chance you have of catching someone's eye. Stop trying. Desperation is unattractive. Be considerate of others feelings. Everyone deep down wants to feel even a little bit special. If it is clear you are carpet bombing everyone in sight it may put some people off. Be choosy. You are as entitled as everyone else to be choosy. How you discern between particular couples or ladies is your own business. Be yourself. I haven't had any meets, due to a multitude of factors. However it is not due to a lack of interest from the fairer sex. I'm an aquired taste but I appeal to the sort of ladies I want to appeal to, so it works for me! Good luck, but please heed the good advice that is out there!" Very good answer, especially this "Be choosy. You are as entitled as everyone else to be choosy" | |||
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"That's a bizzare argument. If I could choose anyone in the world for casual sex I might choose Jennifer Anniston. As she is not going to have sex with me, I am perfectly content to have sex with other women Does that belittle them? Not at all and that is not what I said. But to say "The secret is to look for those who are clearly getting less attention" implies any hole is a goal. I would never suggest that having sex with ANY woman would belittle them, but I would suggest searching out those that are not popular is doing just what single guys get accused of, going for the hole. I know it happens, but to suggest that a guy does that just to get a meet is not really something to put in an open forum. OK, not something I would type!" I think you are the one doing exactly what you're bleating about. You have been replied saying you're misreading and I have tried to correct the way you've twisted what I said. By continuing to do so illustrates clearly that you've no intention of actually accepting how you misinterpreted was wrong and now shows more that you're deliberately misinterpreting what I said. I suggested instead of searching those who have lots of attention to those who have less in no way says any hole is a goal. It says what it says on the tin..... there's less of a crowd to to compete against. Better odds....It doesn't say they are any less interesting or not. Just try to look at things differently from the majority. Secondly You've miss quoted me again to further your misinterpretation. .. I said less popular, I did not say 'not popular'. But I guess arguing with someone who clearly just wants an arguement it stupid on my part. Maybe just try not to keep misquoting people even after they have tried to explain that you've misunderstood them. | |||
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"That's a bizzare argument. If I could choose anyone in the world for casual sex I might choose Jennifer Anniston. As she is not going to have sex with me, I am perfectly content to have sex with other women Does that belittle them? Not at all and that is not what I said. But to say "The secret is to look for those who are clearly getting less attention" implies any hole is a goal. I would never suggest that having sex with ANY woman would belittle them, but I would suggest searching out those that are not popular is doing just what single guys get accused of, going for the hole. I know it happens, but to suggest that a guy does that just to get a meet is not really something to put in an open forum. OK, not something I would type! I think you are the one doing exactly what you're bleating about. You have been replied saying you're misreading and I have tried to correct the way you've twisted what I said. By continuing to do so illustrates clearly that you've no intention of actually accepting how you misinterpreted was wrong and now shows more that you're deliberately misinterpreting what I said. I suggested instead of searching those who have lots of attention to those who have less in no way says any hole is a goal. It says what it says on the tin..... there's less of a crowd to to compete against. Better odds....It doesn't say they are any less interesting or not. Just try to look at things differently from the majority. Secondly You've miss quoted me again to further your misinterpretation. .. I said less popular, I did not say 'not popular'. But I guess arguing with someone who clearly just wants an arguement it stupid on my part. Maybe just try not to keep misquoting people even after they have tried to explain that you've misunderstood them. " This is the norm in most posts i have read especially if it has been started by a male seems to get twisted and the original post gets lost .But i guess you don't need to be mature to be on Fab | |||
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"I wish admins would delete these threads. There's multiples of them each and every day and rather than read advice given on other threads they always just make a new one. Wah wah wah, I've been here a few weeks and no one's pounced on my cock yet. Do you go into a bar full of men and a handful of women and expect that one of them is definately going to fuck you? It's the same here, there's a lot less women than men so they can pick and choose who they want. Put effort into your profile and make it stand out or you will just be another among the thousands out there thinking signing up guarantees you sex" Harsh but fair. | |||
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"3 weeks in and you’ve not had a shag? "I'm here the same or longer and haven't had a shag (from the site). No need to rush things. Good things come to those who wait.. And write good profiles!
OP my advice is just relax, read some of the many threads where women have given advice to men in your situation and maybe get involved in some of the forums its a great way to have a laugh here and see what people are like.
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"OP there are (at time of writing this) over 28 thousand users online. Of these approximately 90% are single men. That means you are one of over 25,000 men competing for the attention of just 3,000 ladies and couples. The odds are not in your favour so you need to stand out from the crowd to attract attention from ladies and couples. When I receive a message the first thing I do is to read the senders profile. If I don't see anything that interests me I delete the message without reading it. Many ladies and couples do the same. We simply don't have enough hours in the day to talk to everyone who messages us so we have to be selective about who we do choose to chat with. I would recommend doing a forum search for profile advice - there are thousands of threads already on here. Pick out the good bits and see if any of the advice can be helpful to your profile. Stick around the forums and get involved in the chat. We are generally a good bunch and meets do happen from getting to know people this way. Social gatherings are organised through the forums too and are a great way of meeting people. The same goes for the chat rooms. It's not quite as bad as that. The breakdown is actually roughly single guys 75%, couples 20% and single women 5%. Of the couples roughly half will meet single guys. So there are roughly 5 single guys for every woman or couple willing to meet them. Given that a large proportion of single guys have no idea (cock pics, fancy a fuck messages), any guy with a a decent photo and some social skills will get a meet. How does 75% single guys and 5% single ladies result in 5x as many guys to ladies? Maybe I've completely misread what you were saying." 90% of all statistics are made up on the spot...76% of all people know that And he has a point...dont be dowling out your "facts" when they make no sence and literally as well as metophoricly dont add up | |||
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"OP there are (at time of writing this) over 28 thousand users online. Of these approximately 90% are single men. That means you are one of over 25,000 men competing for the attention of just 3,000 ladies and couples. The odds are not in your favour so you need to stand out from the crowd to attract attention from ladies and couples. When I receive a message the first thing I do is to read the senders profile. If I don't see anything that interests me I delete the message without reading it. Many ladies and couples do the same. We simply don't have enough hours in the day to talk to everyone who messages us so we have to be selective about who we do choose to chat with. I would recommend doing a forum search for profile advice - there are thousands of threads already on here. Pick out the good bits and see if any of the advice can be helpful to your profile. Stick around the forums and get involved in the chat. We are generally a good bunch and meets do happen from getting to know people this way. Social gatherings are organised through the forums too and are a great way of meeting people. The same goes for the chat rooms. It's not quite as bad as that. The breakdown is actually roughly single guys 75%, couples 20% and single women 5%. Of the couples roughly half will meet single guys. So there are roughly 5 single guys for every woman or couple willing to meet them. Given that a large proportion of single guys have no idea (cock pics, fancy a fuck messages), any guy with a a decent photo and some social skills will get a meet. How does 75% single guys and 5% single ladies result in 5x as many guys to ladies? Maybe I've completely misread what you were saying. Half of 20% of couples as well. So out of every 100 on here you typically have 75 men 10 couples who meet men 10 couples who don't meet men 5 women Hence 75 men to 15 couples willing to meet men plus women = 5 to 1 Based on a few surveys I have done. " Well your still wrong Because of that becomes 15 woman, then becomes 85 men....you know, if your going to be mathmatically correct and consistant Good rule of maths That and you have compleatly left out a fucking huge part of this site....the LBGT lot So lets say of you "75" single men how many of them are looking to meet other men Your 100 person village Is a false equivilancy due to the simple fact that you over simplyfiying everything You missing out some of the largest demographics on fab The fake profiles Men seeking men Woman NOT seeking single men Couples that only meet other couples Couples and sf that will only meet sm of a certain ethnicity regardpess of which one it is So your over simplification makes it ovbious that these "surveys" of yours arent real or you just made up the numbers, to prove....whatever it is your trying to prove | |||
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"So your over simplification makes it ovbious that these "surveys" of yours arent real or you just made up the numbers, to prove....whatever it is your trying to prove" Hey! If the government can do it, why can't we? | |||
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"So your over simplification makes it ovbious that these "surveys" of yours arent real or you just made up the numbers, to prove....whatever it is your trying to prove Hey! If the government can do it, why can't we? "Shit son, shots fired!! | |||
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"It’s getting frustrating " I'm a middle aged portly guy with a small cock, but I have had meets and I could have had/have more. It's my own choices and situation that has prevented me from meeting more. So, moral is, there is someone out there who will meet if you want to make it happen. | |||
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"OP there are (at time of writing this) over 28 thousand users online. Of these approximately 90% are single men. That means you are one of over 25,000 men competing for the attention of just 3,000 ladies and couples. The odds are not in your favour so you need to stand out from the crowd to attract attention from ladies and couples. When I receive a message the first thing I do is to read the senders profile. If I don't see anything that interests me I delete the message without reading it. Many ladies and couples do the same. We simply don't have enough hours in the day to talk to everyone who messages us so we have to be selective about who we do choose to chat with. I would recommend doing a forum search for profile advice - there are thousands of threads already on here. Pick out the good bits and see if any of the advice can be helpful to your profile. Stick around the forums and get involved in the chat. We are generally a good bunch and meets do happen from getting to know people this way. Social gatherings are organised through the forums too and are a great way of meeting people. The same goes for the chat rooms. It's not quite as bad as that. The breakdown is actually roughly single guys 75%, couples 20% and single women 5%. Of the couples roughly half will meet single guys. So there are roughly 5 single guys for every woman or couple willing to meet them. Given that a large proportion of single guys have no idea (cock pics, fancy a fuck messages), any guy with a a decent photo and some social skills will get a meet. How does 75% single guys and 5% single ladies result in 5x as many guys to ladies? Maybe I've completely misread what you were saying. Half of 20% of couples as well. So out of every 100 on here you typically have 75 men 10 couples who meet men 10 couples who don't meet men 5 women Hence 75 men to 15 couples willing to meet men plus women = 5 to 1 Based on a few surveys I have done. Well your still wrong Because of that becomes 15 woman, then becomes 85 men....you know, if your going to be mathmatically correct and consistant Good rule of maths That and you have compleatly left out a fucking huge part of this site....the LBGT lot So lets say of you "75" single men how many of them are looking to meet other men Your 100 person village Is a false equivilancy due to the simple fact that you over simplyfiying everything You missing out some of the largest demographics on fab The fake profiles Men seeking men Woman NOT seeking single men Couples that only meet other couples Couples and sf that will only meet sm of a certain ethnicity regardpess of which one it is So your over simplification makes it ovbious that these "surveys" of yours arent real or you just made up the numbers, to prove....whatever it is your trying to prove" Of course its a simplification. This is a swingers site, not a peer reviewed higher maths journal. You are right that there are all sorts of caveats, but I do think the five to one males to females or couples willing to meet them is roughly correct. And whilst you are having a go at my maths, I can have a go at your logic. It doesn't follow at all that because I have simplified the figures, I haven't done surveys. I have. If you think you can do a better survey, please feel free to do so. I'd be very interested | |||
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"You're on a site overflowing with thousands of fit as fuck men who can accommodate, who realising they have fierce competition make an effort and actually write a profile, setting out what they're looking for and what they bring to the party. Make of that what you will. Oh gosh say it how it is lol "Well that saved me writing a post. Well said. | |||
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"You're on a site overflowing with thousands of fit as fuck men who can accommodate, who realising they have fierce competition make an effort and actually write a profile, setting out what they're looking for and what they bring to the party. Make of that what you will. I laughed so much at this I actually fell over "Does that happen a lot to you? | |||
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"You're on a site overflowing with thousands of fit as fuck men who can accommodate, who realising they have fierce competition make an effort and actually write a profile, setting out what they're looking for and what they bring to the party. Make of that what you will. Oh gosh say it how it is lol
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"Because some of us don't bother trying to meet new people and stick with the ones we know to be reliable. " And you're just miles away anyhow | |||
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"Because some of us don't bother trying to meet new people and stick with the ones we know to be reliable. And you're just miles away anyhow " | |||
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"Well I don't know about the other ladies, but the wedding ring and baby chair in the corner would elicit a "no" from me "Busted lol! | |||
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"If a woman thinks no, bugger all you can do. " Spot on that’s the way it is and us single males just need to accept the fact. | |||
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"I bought a sex machine. It does what i want and when... as soon as sex robots are common i will buy one of them too ...ha ha i have given up with trying to find a human on this site. Its a complete and utter waste of time. " Well you've never messaged me lol | |||
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"It’s getting frustrating " 3 weeks in and he's complaining. I'm soo glad I've never posted one of these threads. Starting to feel left out . Patience man! | |||
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"The things people will argue with each other about, never fails to amaze me. Opinions are just that, so they cannot be wrong. As for the OP, he made a quick exit!! "strange, he wants to meet people on here but not chatting back to any of us | |||
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"Your wasting your time on this site.. Try visiting a club or social. There are so many single guys and time wasters. Most couples prefer to use clubs meet face to face. We only use site to chat, check club updates and invite anyone we are interested to club, at least that way if they don't turn up there are always others to have fun with Clubs aren't all that, especially for single guys (I know from experience), and giving the impression to someone that they will have success in clubs is wrong "Think they just want to post on this thread looking down from their horse ha ha | |||
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"It's all to do with luck and timing on here. Yeah your profile and pics play a part in it but the right message at the right time is all it takes. Best of luck fella " This is so so true, better pics and profile are a bonus but it really is all about the timing and quality of a message, for me in any case | |||
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"It's all to do with luck and timing on here. Yeah your profile and pics play a part in it but the right message at the right time is all it takes. Best of luck fella This is so so true, better pics and profile are a bonus but it really is all about the timing and quality of a message, for me in any case" | |||
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"It's all to do with luck and timing on here. Yeah your profile and pics play a part in it but the right message at the right time is all it takes. Best of luck fella This is so so true, better pics and profile are a bonus but it really is all about the timing and quality of a message, for me in any case "It does depend on whether you are looking to meet. | |||
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"i just think it is interesting that people have given you nuggets of information that may help you you.... but in the last 3 days you have been popping on and offline.... and you have not changed a single thing.... so i would put to people this... and you! "if you are not prepared to help yourself "help yourself!" then why should other people take time out of their own lives helping you?"" | |||
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"i just think it is interesting that people have given you nuggets of information that may help you you.... but in the last 3 days you have been popping on and offline.... and you have not changed a single thing.... so i would put to people this... and you! "if you are not prepared to help yourself "help yourself!" then why should other people take time out of their own lives helping you?"" Boom. Fabio hits the nail squarely on the head. As usual. | |||
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"i just think it is interesting that people have given you nuggets of information that may help you you.... but in the last 3 days you have been popping on and offline.... and you have not changed a single thing.... so i would put to people this... and you! "if you are not prepared to help yourself "help yourself!" then why should other people take time out of their own lives helping you?"" | |||
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"I bought a sex machine. It does what i want and when... as soon as sex robots are common i will buy one of them too ...ha ha i have given up with trying to find a human on this site. Its a complete and utter waste of time. " Might be for the best if your messages are as lacking in charm as this post. Like it or not there are far more single ladies and couples than single men, meeting isn't a right bestowed on You with membership. The men who have charm on here and who look after themselves, bother to write a decent profile and engage well when they message will be more successful, Just like in any environment | |||
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"Did you honestly think it’s “”Instashag” here? 3 weeks in & nothing, do you realise how stiff the competition is on here? Have a look at the profiles of some successful single males on here, & ask yourself am I really doing the best I possibly can to improve my chances of meeting?" Was given the same advice when I joined. Still not shag a minute but that kind of expectation is unrealistic. Take the time to put some effort in and you will get meets. Get to know people through cam, forums and events. The competition is fierce. Stand out | |||
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"I wish admins would delete these threads. There's multiples of them each and every day and rather than read advice given on other threads they always just make a new one. Wah wah wah, I've been here a few weeks and no one's pounced on my cock yet. Do you go into a bar full of men and a handful of women and expect that one of them is definately going to fuck you? It's the same here, there's a lot less women than men so they can pick and choose who they want. Put effort into your profile and make it stand out or you will just be another among the thousands out there thinking signing up guarantees you sex Harsh but fair." Or he could just not read the post if he can't stand them. | |||
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"You're on a site overflowing with thousands of fit as fuck men who can accommodate, who realising they have fierce competition make an effort and actually write a profile, setting out what they're looking for and what they bring to the party. Make of that what you will." This is spot on | |||
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"I wish admins would delete these threads. There's multiples of them each and every day and rather than read advice given on other threads they always just make a new one. Wah wah wah, I've been here a few weeks and no one's pounced on my cock yet. Do you go into a bar full of men and a handful of women and expect that one of them is definately going to fuck you? It's the same here, there's a lot less women than men so they can pick and choose who they want. Put effort into your profile and make it stand out or you will just be another among the thousands out there thinking signing up guarantees you sex" Sums the thread up. | |||
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"I bought a sex machine. It does what i want and when... as soon as sex robots are common i will buy one of them too ...ha ha i have given up with trying to find a human on this site. Its a complete and utter waste of time. " Wait until Dyson invents one, no loss of suction. | |||
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