FabSwingers.com forum: fake profiles

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

With pictures available all over the net , its easy to set up a fake profile with pictures. Even after " meeting a couple of guys" there are no verifications. So, would it be a good idea to verify yourself with the photo verification system, within the first week of joining , if you dont you get the boot! What do you guys think??

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By *limBobStretchedPantsMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

I think it's a fair point. What about automatically removing profiles that have been inactive for over 6 months to a year as well..??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why? Not everyone lives for Fab. Some members are serving military personnel and on tour. Others could be having a break etc. Who are you to say how others use the site.

We all know there are fake profiles just as there are predatory people here. How is it some people seem to attract the same types over and over again.

Simple. Lack of judgement. If you're an overweight, 50 plus person contacted by a nubile teen with taut, honed body, pert breasts/razor sharp Adonis's belt I think it's fair to say it's a fake profile, but some will believe all their birthdays had come at once...bless em!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Agree with the above." If its too good to be true then its probs fake" ..as you have said. Some take a break or are in the army so the 6 month thing is unfair.

Those over 50 , fat, just want to be loved lol..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it's a fair point. What about automatically removing profiles that have been inactive for over 6 months to a year as well..??"

Could not agree with this post more!

Before joining fab or any other site a couple will have or should have chatted together for a while about swinging.

So when joining setting up a profile they should know what suits them, soft swap/sor full swap etc.

The ammount of mails we get from couples that seemed to have joined over a year ago and have not yet met anyone.

These profiles are fake!

Lets be honest about this. In our opinion if joining a site you are ready to swing. Sure it looks great for any site to have so many thousand members but 30% at least at any on time are fake.

They have no plans to meet or the wife has no idea!

No meets in 3 months of joining or profile deleted would be a good idea. After all its the last step joining a site after chatting together and both agreeing thats what they want.

Of course there are times when couples take a break for a few months (we did for a opp) but when first joining? it does not make sense.

If you join your ready and both happy.

Just our opinion and it always will be!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find it quite hyronic that someone who has no pics is moaning about others not having verified pics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we still havent got round to photo verifying ourselves yet lol

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By *j_markCouple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Totteridge/Whetstone

As we always say... If you don't want to meet non-photoverified users just don't contact them and also block them from your filters page so they can't contact you

http://www.fabswingers.com/my/filters

That way the site already works as you want.

Admin x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, there go all my hopes and dreams...!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With pictures available all over the net , its easy to set up a fake profile with pictures. Even after " meeting a couple of guys" there are no verifications. So, would it be a good idea to verify yourself with the photo verification system, within the first week of joining , if you dont you get the boot! What do you guys think??"
It's so easy to write any name on a piece of paper and get "photo verified" it means nothing. I had trouble with a guy on here who has atleast 5 different single/couple profiles, everytime I blocked him he would start another using one of his other profiles to verify himself, it would be a good idea for the site to check the http address of where the profiles are originating from.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it's a fair point. What about automatically removing profiles that have been inactive for over 6 months to a year as well..??

Could not agree with this post more!

Before joining fab or any other site a couple will have or should have chatted together for a while about swinging.

So when joining setting up a profile they should know what suits them, soft swap/sor full swap etc.

The ammount of mails we get from couples that seemed to have joined over a year ago and have not yet met anyone.

These profiles are fake!

Lets be honest about this. In our opinion if joining a site you are ready to swing. Sure it looks great for any site to have so many thousand members but 30% at least at any on time are fake.

They have no plans to meet or the wife has no idea!

No meets in 3 months of joining or profile deleted would be a good idea. After all its the last step joining a site after chatting together and both agreeing thats what they want.

Of course there are times when couples take a break for a few months (we did for a opp) but when first joining? it does not make sense.

If you join your ready and both happy.

Just our opinion and it always will be!

Totally disagree, sorry.

A lot of people join the site to see what it's all about, I know of plenty who weren't ready to actually meet for a good while after. And the bit about you should know what you

want when you join is laughable - how many join saying they'll never do a full swap or separate room and change their minds after a while?!

What happens when I go to Afghanistan and won't have time to access my account - should I be logging in once a week just to please you? Guess I'll have to log into my single profile as well to make sure that doesn't disappear too...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well it took us about 8 months after joining to decide we were ready to meet anyone. I think everyone has their own feelings and wants on here. Who is anyone else to tell us we should meet within 3 months that would have put me off straight away. I get so angry at people trying to tell others how to use the site. we are loving the site and in just over a year we have met 6 guys and played with a couple should we just go now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am in merchant navy and often go away for 6 months so that must mean we are fake. Oh well delete profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well it took us about 8 months after joining to decide we were ready to meet anyone. I think everyone has their own feelings and wants on here. Who is anyone else to tell us we should meet within 3 months that would have put me off straight away. I get so angry at people trying to tell others how to use the site. we are loving the site and in just over a year we have met 6 guys and played with a couple should we just go now?

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Personally I don't mind that, I would rather read a profile that is honest about not being ready to meet than timewasters who say they will but dont turn up!

Don't take it to personal

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By *andcCouple
over a year ago

London and Cheshire

We used to think that deleting old profiles was a good idea, but over time we agree with the others that there are many reasons why people do not log in.

But it makes no difference to us has when we look a profiles, if people haven't logged in, in the passed few weeks we just ignore there profile!

On the general point about timewasters/fake profiles, if someone wastes your time move on, there are plenty of genuine people on here. If you think they are fake, report, block and move on!

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By *reasured heARTSCouple
over a year ago

STOCKPORT

I think that you've been around the swing scene for about 5 mins and not a swinger because you are not in a relationship yet here you are telling people what they should and should not be doing. this is highlighted by the fact you don't even have a photograph and advocate getting a photograph verified within a week or getting booted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" and not a swinger because you are not in a relationship yet"

could you please explain that to me because im finding it hard to find the connection between being a swinger and being in a relationship

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" and not a swinger because you are not in a relationship yet

could you please explain that to me because im finding it hard to find the connection between being a swinger and being in a relationship

I knew i was doing something wrong off to catch me a man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the admin guy nailed it, a couple of posts up. This has no doubt been brought up a millions times, and there are steps in place, as the admin guy said, use the filters.

I disagree with zapping accounts who aren't verified or haven't met after a certain time. People choose this scene as and when their life permits, so can't always been logged on, on here.

Ps. I don't get many fakes, maybe my profile is just that bad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No meets in 3 months of joining or profile deleted would be a good idea. After all its the last step joining a site after chatting together and both agreeing thats what they want.

Just our opinion and it always will be!

Weve not met anyone from this site yet.. met plenty from another thou.

Unfortunately the people that message us, have no education and cant read (not really the type of people were interested in meeting).

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

if someone cant "waste" 1 minute to take a picture holding a piece of paper to prove they're real, dont come with " i dont need to" "i cant be bothered to" "my life isn't just fabswingers"...

i ask those then... so if you plan on having multiple 1-2-3 hours meets, how much 1minute to prove you're really a couple/female is?

Theres just way to many "young and cute" single bi-fems on this site, how many of them are pic verified? less than 1% , you guess why... right! they're fakes, now the big question is, why do these profiles (or how?) get verifications?

They play videos as webcams of a girl striping or something and every1 sends verifications without even checking if thats actually real or a fake.

then we, honest swingers, that are looking for real people get messed arround for weeks with the same person that arranges meets to then cancel just because we believe they're real ( they're verified by other users afterall..).

Ban IP all the fakes.. ban everyone that did verify them too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Militant but I agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hmmm, how about if a profile has not been used in 3 months (or whatever), it goes into hidden status?

Just because people arent shagging their brains out does mean they should be evicted from the site. I now do my meets on my couples profile, but use this one to talk to the people that I met previously. I wouldn't want this closing down just cos I met a fantadtic girl!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im not photo verified, im verified by the people I have met (dont see the point in verifications from cams or phone).

so I should be booted? Not sure why as I could easily ask a younger, prettier slimmer friend to hold a bit of card with my name on it and send that pic in. What would it prove?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"if someone cant "waste" 1 minute to take a picture holding a piece of paper to prove they're real, dont come with " i dont need to" "i cant be bothered to" "my life isn't just fabswingers"...

i ask those then... so if you plan on having multiple 1-2-3 hours meets, how much 1minute to prove you're really a couple/female is?

can i answer that bit... seeing as i am not photo varified and have absolutely no intention to....

see.. holding up a pictures on someones head with a pictures doesn't tell me for example...

if the heights people put on the profiles are correct or not...

or if the ages people put are correct or not...

or if that person is a timewaster....

or has let people down...

or quite frankly if someone is just a prize arse.....

or a million other things, smokers/no smoker... bi/straight

if you can get all that from a picture then you are a lot better than me

in the end ...all it is, is a sign... nothing more, nothing less....

if you can work your way around all that lot... then i'll happily hold up the sign... but until then..... thanks..but no thanks!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im not photo verified, im verified by the people I have met (dont see the point in verifications from cams or phone).

so I should be booted? Not sure why as I could easily ask a younger, prettier slimmer friend to hold a bit of card with my name on it and send that pic in. What would it prove?

Lol stick to your own details. Been a while since i've seen such a well set out profile. I'd have messaged you on the strength of that rather than just a pic varification....

Photo vari's don't prove that much, just that someone is making an effort to join in (normally people jist starting on here), but if you have meet varifications, its kinda null and void.

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By *inktherapyCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

No meets in 3 months of joining or profile deleted would be a good idea. After all its the last step joining a site after chatting together and both agreeing thats what they want.

Of course there are times when couples take a break for a few months (we did for a opp) but when first joining? it does not make sense.

If you join your ready and both happy.

Just our opinion and it always will be!

We joined midweek in July last year - two days later hubby found out he had a new job up North taking him away for almost 6 months - sure he was back on a weekend - about 9/10pm on the Friday and left again on the Sunday afternoon. Strangely we spent our Saturdays together/ with our 4 kids. To be honest we were also probably too knackered to look for sex elsewhere! I didn't even log back into the account until mid November

So no meets when first joining for months can be explained by a genuine set of circumstances..

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

i think you need to stop telling admin how to run the site, we are not photo verified and never will be.

Why...we dont want to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I won't photo verify this profile just like my single profile hasn't been photo verified in over 18 months. I'd have a tough time explaining a photo with the required details if the wrong person saw it so I won't do it.

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham

i think you need to stop telling admin how to run the site, we are not photo verified and never will be.

Why...we dont want to "

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Nearly 4 years ive been here and ive never photo verified myself

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Good response for my first topic. I am probs in the wrong as theres loads of great and genuine men/women and couples on here who are not still photo verified.

It was just a thought and in no way trying to tell the admin, on how to run the site.

Thanks

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" who are still not verified"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"if someone cant "waste" 1 minute to take a picture holding a piece of paper to prove they're real, dont come with " i dont need to" "i cant be bothered to" "my life isn't just fabswingers"...

i ask those then... so if you plan on having multiple 1-2-3 hours meets, how much 1minute to prove you're really a couple/female is?

They play videos as webcams of a girl striping or something and every1 sends verifications without even checking if thats actually real or a fake.

Ban IP all the fakes.. ban everyone that did verify them too."

Im too busy wasting time meeting people who havnt needed to see that im photo verified to hold up a photo sorry will remove profile straight away

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"if someone cant "waste" 1 minute to take a picture holding a piece of paper to prove they're real, dont come with " i dont need to" "i cant be bothered to" "my life isn't just fabswingers"...

i ask those then... so if you plan on having multiple 1-2-3 hours meets, how much 1minute to prove you're really a couple/female is?

They play videos as webcams of a girl striping or something and every1 sends verifications without even checking if thats actually real or a fake.

Ban IP all the fakes.. ban everyone that did verify them too."

I get plenty of meets without having been photo verified, so should I care?

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

see.. holding up a pictures on someones head with a pictures doesn't tell me for example.."

90% + of the fakes are men pretending to be women. Many times women that don't even know their Facebook pics are being used here.

Photo verification would prevent that. If u have 1 min to take a cock or pussy pic u can also hold a piece of paper next to it. I wouldn't say to force every to photo verify . But I would say in order to upload pics u must photo verify ursellf. That way they would actually protect the innocent people that are getting they're Facebook pics used here

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

To the answering women that said that had no problems setting meets... Well even if a woman said she had aids and only wanted bareback she would be able to get it everyday. Just like the fake profiles do. Now the real answer is that most women that refuse proving they're real on webcam etc before meeting are simply fakes most of the times verified by the single males that made them

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

or quite frankly if someone is just a prize arse....."

Well apparently I have a prize arse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people will not be satisfied even if you put a copy of your birth certificate and driving licence on the website together with a note from your mum.

Why should anyone pander to others paranoia? If I get messed around well perhaps I shouldn't put my faith in a website full of strangers I know nothing about. Cast iron guarantees are a fantasy.

This site is welcome to all as long as members stay within admins site rules. If someone is proven to have flaunted those rules - kick them off and not others who don't want to be verified, photo or otherwise.

Start bringing in stringent rules and regulations and everyone will leave en masse.

If I can't make my mind up based on gut reaction then thats down to me. If I went on a meet and a woman dressed as a bloke turned up I'd laugh my back off and tell you all about it on the forums (without naming and shaming, natch)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im all for photo verification being mandatory,

being a part of a young couple its that bit harder for us as no fake profile tends to be between 18 and 30-35 which fits almost everbodies preferences and can clogg up AND PUT PEOPLE OFF fabswingers, because there is so much time and attention wasted on fakes, and time wasters. (some may even be verified)

a normal verification for a fake profile is tooooo easy to obtain, i could easily create a new profile of a young girl with pics of the internet and then verify it with this acount, saying that we meet this girl. I couldnt do that if i was requierd to have a photo verification.

ok yes, some people who are in the milatry or cant have there photo's shown around it can be a problem but maybe once the verification was verified, if then it be posible to delete the image after would be more realistic.

and fake couples are also just as bad!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You do know that the admins block people from doing that don't you?

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

U know that some do it for years and no1 can prove they're fake?

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

People complain about identity... Well photo verification doesn't require your face in it. Can just be your body. Just have to show that for example... You are infact a single female

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

"U know that some do it for years and no1 can prove they're fake? "

How do you know they are fakes then if no one can prove it?

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

"People complain about identity... Well photo verification doesn't require your face in it. Can just be your body. Just have to show that for example... You are infact a single female"

It wouldn't prove they are a "single" female, they could be a married female playing alone!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

like Bo Peep n Woody said
"photo verification doesn't require your face in it. Can just be your body. Just have to show that for example... You are infact a single female"

and what do you mean admin stop people from doing that? i ment i

what do you mean "You do know that the admins block people from doing that don't you?" i could make a new profil... on a differnt email adress... saying im a woman... with pics from the internet... then using this emily vs joe acount verifie the fake one saying we had meet then, and admin would be non the wiser, and the could do nothing about it,

and for those people already verified by loads of people, of cource you wont feel the need to be photoverified because its guna be unarguable your that person.. but what about people that are new or have one or no verification you cant alway belive they are what sex they say they are.

oh, and i think normal webcam verifications cant be accept able cuz ive seen many of times webcams that have shown a recorded video of a woman on webcam rather than a live stream from the webcam. (do you know what i mean?)

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"To the answering women that said that had no problems setting meets... Well even if a woman said she had aids and only wanted bareback she would be able to get it everyday. Just like the fake profiles do. Now the real answer is that most women that refuse proving they're real on webcam etc before meeting are simply fakes most of the times verified by the single males that made them"

You are fixated on the whole 'Fake' profile thing, why not just get on with doing your thing and allow others to use and enjoy the site the way they want to?

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

each one enjoy the site as they want, im just saying that the "Verified" status is getting less and less meaning since any Fake can get a "tick" as verified without any problems, that shouldnt be possible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

can't comment on the rest of what you said. But every time you log on to any website it records your IP address, so even if you create a new profile and you have a verified profile. If you try and verify the new profile with your existing profile (same IP address remember!!) then it won't work.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"each one enjoy the site as they want, im just saying that the "Verified" status is getting less and less meaning since any Fake can get a "tick" as verified without any problems, that shouldnt be possible."

So??

I agree, there are fake profiles out there. Big whoop. After a while you'll recognise them and block and move on.

There are plenty of genuine people on here, people who are looking at the moaners on here and thinking 'hmmmm, not for me'. Just saying.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

So??

I agree, there are fake profiles out there. Big whoop. After a while you'll recognise them and block and move on.

There are plenty of genuine people on here, people who are looking at the moaners on here and thinking 'hmmmm, not for me'. Just saying."

Yup, how many times do we need to say trust your gut, nothing else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We got photo verified but don't think it makes the slightest bit of difference!

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

to ourselves , photo verification does no difference.

Fake profiles get blocked here too, along with all those who message us without bothering to read our profile etc, like many of you do too.

But my point is, once someone see's your picture or something, imagine then u decide not to meet that person and he/she on revenge makes a profile with your pic on private and chats to other couples/singles sending them YOUR or your partners pictures without you knowing about it.

I believe that then you would aggree that you dont want a man sending pictures of your "wife" for example while pretending to be her, photo verification as a requirement to upload pics would prevent those kind of fakes which are very , very common.

any disavantages? dont think so.

advantages? yes lots of them.

people would leave in masses? dont think so, the biggest free dating site in UK (POF) requires a face picture if you want to have pics up and they get picky to the point of not allowing you to have sunglasses or a hat on it. and no1 left them, also i believe that more people leave being fed up of timer wasters (mostly couples/man that get messed arround with fake females) than anything else.

Single women dont see the extent of the problem because most of them meet their needs without problems, most men are genuine and the majority of couples too, which are they're main targets.

It's just our side of the story, try to understand it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I believe that then you would aggree that you dont want a man sending pictures of your "wife" for example while pretending to be her, photo verification as a requirement to upload pics would prevent those kind of fakes which are very , very common.

.....most men are genuine and the majority of couples too, which are they're main targets.

After you uploaded the verification pic, it would still be easy to add fake pics - the mods are good but how can they tell the boobs/bum/torso/back shot is the same as the person in the verification pic?? Some things would be obvious but all you'd need to do would choose your photos carefully and you'd get round that easily.

THe last bit, about most men and couples being genuine....I'd put a good guess at these being the majority of member profiles are here, single females are probably in the minority. Many of them are clearly real - I'm thinking of my profile, Diamond, Evesham and many others who have numerous veris from socials and post regularly on the forums. So you'd introduce a new rule to catch an even smaller minority - the fake female profiles?

Like I said in another thread, can't you look instead at your selection process instead of trying to change the way everyone else uses the site?

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

Most people who pretend to be woman are men. Those would be stopped. Ir at least a big part of them

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By *andcCouple
over a year ago

London and Cheshire

How do you stop this? You cannot block IP addresses, has these are easy to change (or even fake/spoof).

All verification systems are open to abuse, but they can be used as a tool for each person to judge whether someone is genuine or not. We look to see who has verified them and then check their verifications too, how many verifications they have and what date they where verified. This has work very well for us, we have NEVER had a 'no show'.

The last point we would make is that we DO NOT get into email ping pong with anyone, we just ask a few questions in an initial message and answer any questions the other party may have, then arrange to meet, this usually sort any fakers out, if they continue to ask questions, what we are into etc.. it's usually a red flag to us, we just tell them to meet us and we can chat and see if both sides would like to play, fakers will run a mile!

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

dont disagree with you but what you said doesn't make my point irrelevant.

Im not asking to make the site harder to use.

The whole IP/full ip ban wouldnt work 100%... well our british notes have UV reactive stripes and watermark to help spoting fake notes..but there is also fake notes with them, did this stop them make the watermarks/uv because there is people that can make fakes with them? no

My point is, each fake barrier will work agaisnt a BIG portion of the fakes, even if 1 out of 10 can run a fake IP address/stick uv reactive stripes or watermarks on notes (which i believe that wouldnt even be 1 in 10) thats 9 out of 10 that wont be making profiles every week just to mess about.

If people that dont care about verifications dont mind the ammount of fake verified profiles nothing would change for them, but in my eyes a Verified should be a sign that someone is actually a couple/female/male and not irrelevant.

We've had 2 different profiles messaging us pictures of the same woman (different pics) now one of them(at least) isnt real since they live in different places, different ages, one smokes one doesn't etc etc.

How can both profiles have meeting verifications if one is 100% fake? people complain about privacy when it comes to "photo verify yourself" without realising that all you need is to prove you're a man/woman , doesn't require your face on it and only the admin will see it and check.

What is really invading privacy is single man be able to revenge on women that didn't wanted to meet them, for example, after swapping face pics and then, make female profiles with their face pictures on private galery and send them to everyone privately, which could be a friend of yours, your boss, etc.

Some people have no problems with having their face shown here, but some have culture/jobs that wouldnt accept well the fact that you're a swinger and would rather know that "if im a woman, no man can upload my pics" , and again yes ... that wouldnt prevent another woman from doing it, but again prevents a BIG part of it(since its man that mostly do it), and if we add a couple of rules that work on 90% of fakes there would be significant results.

On the admin side there would be another problem with this.

atm you search age 25 to 27 in your area,for example, and you get:

500 male 100 couples 50 females.

Preventing/striking the fakes would turn into:

490 male 60 couples 5 females.

on the business side of things wouldnt work well and in my eyes thats the reason why nothing is done about it.

Ill leave it here since not many understand my thoughs but just wanted to say that this is not a moan, we've met couples, single males and single females, on this area at least and fabswingers really did help expanding our swinging experience, but there is just the problem that you have to waste alot of time with timewasters/fakes until you actually meet someone real, and that could be easly reduced by improving the requirements to be verified.

The safety of our own pictures could be also improved if people required photo verification to upload pictures.

Thank you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

still not going to do it , ops sorry im still here should have deleted profile by now

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over a year ago

Theres a lot of talk of timewasters and fakes, but the problem is you will get that everywhere. Best things to do is talk to them on the phone, and go for a social drink first. If its all about the sex, arrange to meet at a club... if they fall through or arent who they claim to be at least the evenings not a total bust lol

Personally, I would meet anyone without talling to them on the phone, and if you can't get a good feel for someone from that, theres issues

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok, just re-read the OP. To get back on topic and to stop being so negative with things, how about ideas for how to stop timewasters?

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By *ricky_DickyMan
over a year ago

Mirfield

Making it difficult to create fake profiles won't stop them, it might have a small effect on the number of them but they will still be there they'll just be a better quality fake profile and harder to spot.

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over a year ago

at the end of the day any site like this will have a lot of fakes. Its up to the genuine people on here to make there own mind up on each profile as they come accross it. if you put a load of restrictions on what people have to do to join real people who want to join may be put off.

That said an easy solution would be that when people sign up they have to go on webcam with admins to show that they are who they say they are. however we as site members would have to pay a lot more to cover the cost of this and is it really worth it. We dont think so

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over a year ago

"Theres a lot of talk of timewasters and fakes, but the problem is you will get that everywhere. Best things to do is talk to them on the phone, and go for a social drink first. If its all about the sex, arrange to meet at a club... if they fall through or arent who they claim to be at least the evenings not a total bust lol

Personally, I would meet anyone without talling to them on the phone, and if you can't get a good feel for someone from that, theres issues

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we hate the thought of this if we are unsure of somebody why in the hell would we give them our mobile numbers

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over a year ago

"at the end of the day any site like this will have a lot of fakes. Its up to the genuine people on here to make there own mind up on each profile as they come accross it. if you put a load of restrictions on what people have to do to join real people who want to join may be put off.

would also mean everybody having a cam in first place

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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see.. holding up a pictures on someones head with a pictures doesn't tell me for example..

90% + of the fakes are men pretending to be women. Many times women that don't even know their Facebook pics are being used here.

You could solve that by asking the people to cam to show face...even ask them to do a gesture to prove it isn't a video etc.

I really think gut instinct works everytie in these situations, if you think people are fake because of X Y Z reasons, then just ignore the profile and move to the next one?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I think what is quite interesting in this thread is the reliance some people give to the almighty "verification".... as if some use it instead of doing there own due diligence

it is what it is.. a tool that people can use if they want..or don't! but in the end that is the decision of the people involved.. and if they don't they also suffer the consequences of that decision...

remember if you only want to meet people who are photo verified there is a option to tick that box in search.... if it means that much.. do it!! it's not really rocket science...

so if we make photo verification compulsary then what next? having to use the forums? having to use the chatrooms? having to go to socials!!

it is a dangerous slope some are suggesting here.. and then the question will then be posed where does it end?

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By *andcCouple
over a year ago

London and Cheshire

This is not true when they made the UV machines fake note didn't have the stripe, what happen is when the machine came out the fakers just changed their fake note to keep up with the technology.

So trying to ban IP is just a waste of time has a faker could just spoof is IP address to keep up with the technology being used. Proof of this come in the list of spammers and their likely IP addresses that are available to website owners, they don't stop spammers, the spammers just find a way around them.

On the admin side there would be another problem with this.

atm you search age 25 to 27 in your area,for example, and you get:

500 male 100 couples 50 females.

Preventing/striking the fakes would turn into:

490 male 60 couples 5 females.

on the business side of things wouldnt work well and in my eyes thats the reason why nothing is done about it.

What you're doing here is guessing, you have got one example of a fake and then said 90% of all female profiles in a search are fake! while I would agree that female and couple profile are the most likely profiles to fake, your numbers are wildly exagerated.

The point that the owners are just thinking of the business model are also a guess, they give ALL members the opportunity to report profiles that suspect to be fake.

The owners spend there time on building and running the site for the GENUINE swingers on the site, why waste time and effort on the fakers? They usually get bored and move on to something else.

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over a year ago

"I think what is quite interesting in this thread is the reliance some people give to the almighty "verification".... as if some use it instead of doing there own due diligence

remember if you only want to meet people who are photo verified there is a option to tick that box in search.... if it means that much.. do it!! it's not really rocket science...

so if we make photo verification compulsary then what next? having to use the forums? having to use the chatrooms? having to go to socials!!

it is a dangerous slope some are suggesting here.. and then the question will then be posed where does it end?"

I find some people scary! Don't seem able to use their own due deligence to work out if someone is fake, instead happy to put their trust in verifications made by total strangers: unbelievable!

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over a year ago

I must start reading a paper with my breakfast. Staring out the window gives me too much time to think.

Well.... the site COULD have Verification Cam Rooms (VCR) One for each county of the British isles. Volunteer Cam Verification Mods (VCVM) could watch the cam rooms as members present themselves in front of the county camera of their choice, talk a little bit about their aims and prove they exist. Ah ha. They could be running a prerehearsed vid I hear you saying.

Well the could then ask the member to go and bring an ordinary household object of their choice - say a small milk pan and tune into radio 2 (yes specifically) to prove they were going out live.

The VCVM would then verify the member (or both members of a couple) as being representative of their profile.

Members who go through this process could have a free months membership and a MVM (Member Verification Medal)showing on their profile as proof they exist as per their profile.

They could still be fakes and timewasters so other members could with proof contact admin and say althought these people have an MVM they messed me around. If these members have three more adverse reports then they lose their medal in a naming and shaming ceremony on the 4th day of every month called the VCVMMVMRC (Volunteer Cam Verification Mod Member Verification Medal Removal Ceremony)

Or not.

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

I like the cam verification idea with 1 month free membership. But I still believe admin prefers everyones money while deceiving supporters by the hundreds of single female(real+fake) search results which he wouldn't get if the results were the "very few real women" instead, leading many members to leave before becoming supporters. It's just easier to block some forum threads

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By *andcCouple
over a year ago

London and Cheshire

"I like the cam verification idea with 1 month free membership. But I still believe admin prefers everyones money while deceiving supporters by the hundreds of single female(real+fake) search results which he wouldn't get if the results were the "very few real women" instead, leading many members to leave before becoming supporters. It's just easier to block some forum threads"

I cannot see your point about admin!

Fab is FREE, you do not need to pay to use the site, so the point about fakes and wanting people money is not valid, infact it is counter productive, has members can view the site for free and then join if they want the extra's available to site supporter. If has you say there are just loads of fake profile members would see that and no become site supports or leave the site!

The problem could be if you're after single women, they are a rare breed in the swinging world and can be more choosy whom they meet, where single males are in the opposite position, just too much choice so find it difficult to get meets, but it just the way it is.

Admin can block, delete, remove threads or what ever they like, IT'S THEIR website, so you have to follow THEIR rules and how they want to run THEIR website, while constructive critisms is valid, just slagging them off because they disagree with your view is pointless, just reading this thread shows that most people are happy with how the site is run.

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over a year ago

Erm... that was a spoof scenario based on the silliness of wanting cast iron guarantees. I never in a million years believed anyone would take me seriously.... I mean a VCVMMVMRC...

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over a year ago

"Erm... that was a spoof scenario based on the silliness of wanting cast iron guarantees. I never in a million years believed anyone would take me seriously.... I mean a VCVMMVMRC..."

Awwwww. I wanted a medal...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i like the webcam verification room idea, but what kind of verification would the get? a green flag?

but as i said erlyer it is easy to have a video plaed inted of a live webcam being shown... do you know what i mean, so there would need to be some sort of profe to show that the people in the webcam are actualy live ie, a wave or somthing

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

site traffic = money. whatever if you are a supporter or not. Im not sure but as far as i remember when you arent a supporter u get ads on the side(if u dont run a adblocker), everytime a add is opened on the side , admins get 0.0x pence or so. the more fake profiles you browse, the more hits, the more ads are loaded, the more money comes in.

This site wasnt just made for the fun of it, sure the owner might be a very happy swinging couple etc but its still a business like any other. where there is a ballance between quality and profit. Im just asking to push it up a bit more towards quality.

Everyone knows that women are the rare breed in the swinging world, we just dont need a site pretending to not be like that, i prefer the reality of 5 single women on a search result on my area than 50 results of fakes

Bla bla bla i can block etc etc, i do block, i do move on , but in my opinion its easier to set a tool/requirement on the site than forcing thousands of members to waste time + Block each time someone decides to mess around

peace

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over a year ago

"Erm... that was a spoof scenario based on the silliness of wanting cast iron guarantees. I never in a million years believed anyone would take me seriously.... I mean a VCVMMVMRC...

Awwwww. I wanted a medal...

Here.... have mine... I made it out of a milk bottle top and some sticky backed plastic...

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

If you dislike this place so much, why are you here?

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

If you dislike this place so much, why are you here?"

Im not going to bother anymore answering to these childish comments.

quoting on my posts as if i said "this" or "that". Grow up.

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over a year ago

"Erm... that was a spoof scenario based on the silliness of wanting cast iron guarantees. I never in a million years believed anyone would take me seriously.... I mean a VCVMMVMRC...

Awwwww. I wanted a medal...

Here.... have mine... I made it out of a milk bottle top and some sticky backed plastic..."

Woohoo!

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By *andcCouple
over a year ago

London and Cheshire

"site traffic = money. whatever if you are a supporter or not. Im not sure but as far as i remember when you arent a supporter u get ads on the side(if u dont run a adblocker), everytime a add is opened on the side , admins get 0.0x pence or so. the more fake profiles you browse, the more hits, the more ads are loaded, the more money comes in.

This is NOT TRUE the type of advertising used by Fabswingers is called an affiliate program, this works on the premise that the website owner send traffic(if they click on the advert) to another website and they get paid,and ONLY get paid if someone actually buys something, so if you do not click the advert AND actually buy something, the website owner get NOTHING.

This type of advertising ONLY works when the advertising is relevant to the type of website being run, so, adult toys/lingerie is a GOOD choice on a swingers website.

But like i said FABSWINGERS IS FREE, you just have to put up with the adverts

Yes the site is being run for profit(and good on em to), I can also write website, but would I write and run a swinging website, NO CHANCE, to many people thinking they could do it better.

On the quality site again, seems you're the only one complaining on this thread!

I'm sure that we all could think of ways to better the site, I know I have contacted the owners directly to put some ideas forward, but I don't moan if they don't take them up, has site owner they have the right to run the site has they wish.

I come back to my original point, where are you getting your figures/data from, you stated that you have seen a few fake female profiles, but now you say they MOST are now fake!!!

There are tools on the site already to do this there's report, block, not verified, no single male etc...

more than enough for most members.

Finally why slag of the owners because they have not taken your ideas on board?

better to just get on meeting the MANY GENUINE swingers that are on Fab..

Happy swinging

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

There are tools on the site already to do this there's report, block, not verified, no single male etc...

none of those tools blocks a single male from picking your wife's pics and verify it with his single male account.

Back to my point

Photo verification would stop this.

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

from picking your wife's pics and verify it with his single male account.

i mean making a profile with your wife's pics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im just being thick cos i really cant see how a photo verification helps , im thinking of getting my friend to pose for me seeing as how doesnt have to be a face pic her body is fitter than mine

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over a year ago

I just copied and pasted this from the FAQ section on the site.

Verifications we try to leave for another user aren't being saved

If you're trying to verify another account that you have created yourself or you're trying to verify someone who is using the same PC as yourself, or you're on the same internet connection, then the verification won't be recorded. We do this to stop people creating fake accounts and verifying them themselves.

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By *andcCouple
over a year ago

London and Cheshire

There are tools on the site already to do this there's report, block, not verified, no single male etc...

none of those tools blocks a single male from picking your wife's pics and verify it with his single male account.

Back to my point

Photo verification would stop this."

Nope it doesn't, but if you like I can get my mate whos a photoshop pro to send you a pic of david Cameron with a fabswingers note and the date etc.. to prove that photo verification is not the answer...just too easy to fake

Surely when you look at a profile which has many verifications by meet, that are up to date and the people who have verified them have loads of up to date verifications, that they have a high of not being a faker.

You could also ask them to go on chat to show themselves! or why not meet socially before playing usually soon as you ask for a meet they will run a mile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any security protocol can be worked around with enough effort. If more and more get brought in to combat that there will be no freedom, no members and no free site anymore. If its stolen pics people are worried about how about a line across if saying "property of (members name)"? Personally, I think that would ruin them though...

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over a year ago

This site provides a service. A service with profiles that we can source then suss out for ourself. Some people want to be spoon fed and have it all land in their lap. Check it out if it seems too good to be true. People can make their own arrangements to cam on this site or on msn or whatever. Ring them up and trust gut feelings.

After all nobody bathes us, gets us ready, tells us which pub to go to or whatever and introduces us to every available person in there. We have to do that all by ourselves.

Complaining about the site that provides the service is a bit off to me.

If I turn up some fruit loops in the meantime then so what. Is it really that big of a deal?

Its a contact website like a lot of other contact websites. What happens once you make contact is beyond the control of anyone but yourself.

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

"Any security protocol can be worked around with enough effort. If more and more get brought in to combat that there will be no freedom, no members and no free site anymore. If its stolen pics people are worried about how about a line across if saying "property of (members name)"? Personally, I think that would ruin them though..."

Maybe changing the bottom watermark "fabswingers/bopeep n woody" and make it diagonal accross the picture? so it cant just be trimmed or the bottom?

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over a year ago

"This site provides a service. A service with profiles that we can source then suss out for ourself. Some people want to be spoon fed and have it all land in their lap. Check it out if it seems too good to be true. People can make their own arrangements to cam on this site or on msn or whatever. Ring them up and trust gut feelings.

After all nobody bathes us, gets us ready, tells us which pub to go to or whatever and introduces us to every available person in there. We have to do that all by ourselves.

Complaining about the site that provides the service is a bit off to me.

If I turn up some fruit loops in the meantime then so what. Is it really that big of a deal?

Its a contact website like a lot of other contact websites. What happens once you make contact is beyond the control of anyone but yourself."

What she said lol

All totally true. Think of this site as a tool. If ypu want to do anything with it, you have to make the effort and use it.

Ok, theres fakes. But they have them on plenty of fish as well and at least people on here are honest of what they want. Seriously, if you wanna see serious fakes go to AFF. This site is amazing for real people in comparison lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you dislike this place so much, why are you here?"

I was thinking that after the first whine!

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By *eeking Maid MarianMan
over a year ago

Sherwood Forest N Notts

Point very well made.

I'll happily volunteer to be number 7

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By *itianmandyWoman
over a year ago

london

"Most people who pretend to be woman are men. Those would be stopped. Ir at least a big part of them"

Hate to be pedantic (honest!), but aren't ALL people who pretend to be a woman going to be men? Unless of course it's possible for a woman to pretend to be a woman!

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

Many couples act as a single woman thinking it increases the chances of getting a mff threesome. I believe that honesty works best. At least works for us

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By *itianmandyWoman
over a year ago

london

"Many couples act as a single woman thinking it increases the chances of getting a mff threesome. I believe that honesty works best. At least works for us

I'm suitably admonished...I think

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By *o Peep n WoodyCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

I meant that being honest works best. Don't misread it :p

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

erm beg to differ here, being overweight an all!

I have been chatting with various gorgeous men and women who are toned with the razor sharp Adonis's belt/pert boobs, and have chatted on web cam and they havent been put off by me being fat, so lets just say everyone has a different type!

rant over!

My photos havent been verified but I do have a verified profile from someone I have met and people I have chatted to on cam. I prefer verified profiles, not bothered about pics as there is a thing called photo shop where it can be altered with the piece of paper.

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