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"Why not try a meet with a guy but start with just oral but also state to the guy what you just said as then you both know you don't know what you may feel when you meet " Iv tried this a few time most are fine with this and all have fun but then i carnt get out fast enough. I dont think its to much a mental thing because i grew up in a house of all girls and are very accepting of anyone and dont judge | |||
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"Does anyone else get really strong gay urges to the point were ur willing for just about anything but when u cum everything is gone and ur really put of" Regret,remorse,sexual guilt etc. I could write a book (along with many others) I have been beaten up, spat on,told 'never speak to me again',told ' I should not have done that..Occupational hazard of being queer! Must admit I think it's a lot better now..tho recently a guy slammed the door after he cum. | |||
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"Does anyone else get really strong gay urges to the point were ur willing for just about anything but when u cum everything is gone and ur really put of" Used to, but I no longer feel ashamed to meet or play with a guy, I'm happy to cuddle up to a guy afterwards....and perhaps do it again now | |||
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"Does anyone else get really strong gay urges to the point were ur willing for just about anything but when u cum everything is gone and ur really put of Used to, but I no longer feel ashamed to meet or play with a guy, I'm happy to cuddle up to a guy afterwards....and perhaps do it again now" That's my man...sorted Ax | |||
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"I think this is very common with a lot of peope's fantasies. Like I was saying to my hubby the other day, when you're super horny it's almost like you're d*unk and you feel like anything goes but then as soon as you've cum the very idea of what you've just fantasised about doesn't appeal remotely! It's tricky trying to find a common ground between fulfilling your fantasies but then being able to be comfortable with them day to day. xxx" I think there's a lot of truth in that, something to do with the way men are wired I think. In my case being with a guy is no longer a fantasy, it's what I sometimes do, and enjoy. | |||
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"Does anyone else get really strong gay urges to the point were ur willing for just about anything but when u cum everything is gone and ur really put of Regret,remorse,sexual guilt etc. I could write a book (along with many others) I have been beaten up, spat on,told 'never speak to me again',told ' I should not have done that..Occupational hazard of being queer! Must admit I think it's a lot better now..tho recently a guy slammed the door after he cum. " I hear you. This used to be a commonplace experience for gay / queer men - and sometimes did lead to violence from 'straight' men who couldn't believe what they had done. It still happens, too.... All I'd say to the OP is, if you;re happy with how you are, carry one, but if you're not, and I suspect that's the case, then talk to someone. Not the interweb, but a real person, who's trained to listen and to help you understand who you are. | |||
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"Does anyone else get really strong gay urges to the point were ur willing for just about anything but when u cum everything is gone and ur really put of" Lots of men go off sex in general whether gay or not after cumming. It's just part of the chemistry that makes some men. I love having sex with my wife and watching her with others. But once I've cum I need a few minutes to turn off sex and just reset the brain. I'd happily watch her have sex but it would feel slightly platonic for a while before the battery or what ever it is inside recharges. | |||
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"Hidden history - men have gathered together since time began, hunting, clubs, illicit porn films, roman armies . I do not believe they weren't wanking and sucking without females present. Its just hidden. Personally I love watching men together " I seem to remember the roman legions serious frowned on that sort of behaviour. They had brothels to follow the legion, so did quite a few armies, people even used to take the wife and kids with the supply wagons (camp followers) as late as the Crimean war. The French foreign legion (god bless their little cotton psycho socks) still had a mobile military brothel into the early 70's. But I'm not sure it would be hygienic to visit it after pay day, it was common to charge legionnaires if they caught a dose off the local talent so it was apparently the done thing to do the local knocking shops, sign into the official one later, close your eyes and stir the tea, to avoid a charge if you got burned. Course this would give a couple of platoons the clap but hey ho penicillin and umbrellas. | |||
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"Why not try a meet with a guy but start with just oral but also state to the guy what you just said as then you both know you don't know what you may feel when you meet Iv tried this a few time most are fine with this and all have fun but then i carnt get out fast enough. I dont think its to much a mental thing because i grew up in a house of all girls and are very accepting of anyone and dont judge " If you cannot explain it for yourself, it could well be unconscious conditioning whatever the reason. Tricky. | |||
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"Does anyone else get really strong gay urges to the point were ur willing for just about anything but when u cum everything is gone and ur really put of" All but the last bit.. When I come it's wonderful and it needs to happen. Again. Does sound like you're a drowning pharaoh.. in De-nile | |||
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"It's purely a fantasy, the reality has 90% sucked and no I know it's a hit and miss desire I just stick to fantasising about it and making myself cum because I'm excellent at it lol " .... Great comment. I've experimented with many fantasies over the years. For me it pretty much boils down to my 'state of mind', and only through trying some things I've become wiser. When I'm 99% turned on, I'm on a knife-edge thinking about it (whatever situation I've been in at the time) and then when I reach 100% it's like all inhibitions vanish and all is great.... for maybe 5 seconds (the release phase) .... then I cum and, back comes reality, common sense and a feeling of wtf just happened (in good way most of the time) lol. Personally for me, getting to that 99% zone is ultimately satisfying. To each their own. I read and article on 'sub drop' in a bdsm forum years ago which helped me. Basically it said, as long as everyone is all okay with what's going on in a scene/play date, then there's absolutely nothing to feel guilty about, and when pushing a boundary you can sometimes get such an emotional high that you become emotionally drained immediately after (or even days after) and feel all weird (and confused) which may lead to overwhelming feelings of shame and regret, just like stress affects us in extreme instances. So it's important to talk to either your play partner or group afterwards (the forum here for example) to get advice, support and feedback. | |||
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"It's purely a fantasy, the reality has 90% sucked and no I know it's a hit and miss desire I just stick to fantasising about it and making myself cum because I'm excellent at it lol .... Great comment. I've experimented with many fantasies over the years. For me it pretty much boils down to my 'state of mind', and only through trying some things I've become wiser. When I'm 99% turned on, I'm on a knife-edge thinking about it (whatever situation I've been in at the time) and then when I reach 100% it's like all inhibitions vanish and all is great.... for maybe 5 seconds (the release phase) .... then I cum and, back comes reality, common sense and a feeling of wtf just happened (in good way most of the time) lol. Personally for me, getting to that 99% zone is ultimately satisfying. To each their own. I read and article on 'sub drop' in a bdsm forum years ago which helped me. Basically it said, as long as everyone is all okay with what's going on in a scene/play date, then there's absolutely nothing to feel guilty about, and when pushing a boundary you can sometimes get such an emotional high that you become emotionally drained immediately after (or even days after) and feel all weird (and confused) which may lead to overwhelming feelings of shame and regret, just like stress affects us in extreme instances. So it's important to talk to either your play partner or group afterwards (the forum here for example) to get advice, support and feedback. " Cheers!... x A quote I take to heart is "Don't believe everything you think!" We all try to make illogical things have meaning when sometimes things just are the way they are for temporarily unfathomable reasons. To my mind if the Op was having thoughts about men more than just occasionally, I'd think maybe he has latent gay desires... but maybe you've just watched way too much bisexual or gay porn and now you're thinking you want gay sex?!... Lol there's one way to find out "suck it and see!", which is how I go about exploring my recurring fantasises... Most of which were great but the recurring ones about casual sex with strangers were just subliminal programming stemming from years of exposure to online porn I no longer have because I don't watch porn anymore!!! Lol. | |||
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"It's purely a fantasy, the reality has 90% sucked and no I know it's a hit and miss desire I just stick to fantasising about it and making myself cum because I'm excellent at it lol .... Great comment. I've experimented with many fantasies over the years. For me it pretty much boils down to my 'state of mind', and only through trying some things I've become wiser. When I'm 99% turned on, I'm on a knife-edge thinking about it (whatever situation I've been in at the time) and then when I reach 100% it's like all inhibitions vanish and all is great.... for maybe 5 seconds (the release phase) .... then I cum and, back comes reality, common sense and a feeling of wtf just happened (in good way most of the time) lol. Personally for me, getting to that 99% zone is ultimately satisfying. To each their own. I read and article on 'sub drop' in a bdsm forum years ago which helped me. Basically it said, as long as everyone is all okay with what's going on in a scene/play date, then there's absolutely nothing to feel guilty about, and when pushing a boundary you can sometimes get such an emotional high that you become emotionally drained immediately after (or even days after) and feel all weird (and confused) which may lead to overwhelming feelings of shame and regret, just like stress affects us in extreme instances. So it's important to talk to either your play partner or group afterwards (the forum here for example) to get advice, support and feedback. Cheers!... x A quote I take to heart is "Don't believe everything you think!" We all try to make illogical things have meaning when sometimes things just are the way they are for temporarily unfathomable reasons. To my mind if the Op was having thoughts about men more than just occasionally, I'd think maybe he has latent gay desires... but maybe you've just watched way too much bisexual or gay porn and now you're thinking you want gay sex?!... Lol there's one way to find out "suck it and see!", which is how I go about exploring my recurring fantasises... Most of which were great but the recurring ones about casual sex with strangers were just subliminal programming stemming from years of exposure to online porn I no longer have because I don't watch porn anymore!!! Lol. " Dr Kinsley, iliterated this in his research sexial desires of man and the sexial desires of women. Their is a scale of homeosexiallity and that we move or appear somewhere on it, however their is a threshold to meaning you can think of the odd homosexuial act and still be straight. Yet modern research contradicts this and suggests that make sexuality is fixed. P.s. This post is not an excuse for gay/bi men to m2m me or to be disrespectful. | |||
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"Dr Kinsley, iliterated this in his research sexial desires of man and the sexial desires of women. Their is a scale of homeosexiallity and that we move or appear somewhere on it, however their is a threshold to meaning you can think of the odd homosexuial act and still be straight. Yet modern research contradicts this and suggests that make sexuality is fixed. P.s. This post is not an excuse for gay/bi men to m2m me or to be disrespectful." ..... The term hetero-flexible springs to mind. As in someone has a definite preference, but on occasion, is comfortable with doing something contrary to their preference. The Klein sexual orientation grid, adds more dimensions to the Kinsey scale. There are of course many other sexuality tests which we can pick and choose between to help us better identify if we choose to, but ultimately for some, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. | |||
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"Hidden history - men have gathered together since time began, hunting, clubs, illicit porn films, roman armies . I do not believe they weren't wanking and sucking without females present. Its just hidden. Personally I love watching men together " This is true and something I've often thought about. However, was there ever any equaivelent for women? Or is the WI less about making cakes than I thought? | |||
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"I would suggest you're in denial about your true sexuality, and have been mentally conditioned to be repulsed by homosexuality, or at the least think it is wrong. So when your horny you lose your inhibitions, yet when not, that mental conditioning kicks in. " ^^ This. The 'before' scenario is what your sexuality actually is, and the 'after' scenario is your discomfort with your true sexuality, and your desire to be straight. Orgasm kills the male sex drive stone dead in a split second. From very, very horny, to no sexual interest whatsoever, in one moment. So the urge to do the gay thing goes. All that's left is the disgust with yourself for wanting to do the gay thing in the first place. Once you become comfortable with your true sexuality, this goes away. Orgasm still flatlines your sex drive, but you don't end up hating yourself for wanting to do things that are perfectly natural for you. | |||
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"Dr Kinsley, iliterated this in his research sexial desires of man and the sexial desires of women. Their is a scale of homeosexiallity and that we move or appear somewhere on it, however their is a threshold to meaning you can think of the odd homosexuial act and still be straight. Yet modern research contradicts this and suggests that make sexuality is fixed. P.s. This post is not an excuse for gay/bi men to m2m me or to be disrespectful. ..... The term hetero-flexible springs to mind. As in someone has a definite preference, but on occasion, is comfortable with doing something contrary to their preference. The Klein sexual orientation grid, adds more dimensions to the Kinsey scale. There are of course many other sexuality tests which we can pick and choose between to help us better identify if we choose to, but ultimately for some, the proof of the pudding is in the eating." Writes never heard of the Klien grid its sounds more interdimensinal than Kinsly's verry narrow answer to nearing sexuial orientation. Worth certain scientific phenomena you find they discover a way to answer why this thing happens to discover why it happens. To cover up with a more salient theory only to rediscover another theory that matches or is similar theory. Of course all theories could be fundinentally wrong. | |||
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"I would suggest you're in denial about your true sexuality, and have been mentally conditioned to be repulsed by homosexuality, or at the least think it is wrong. So when your horny you lose your inhibitions, yet when not, that mental conditioning kicks in. ^^ This. The 'before' scenario is what your sexuality actually is, and the 'after' scenario is your discomfort with your true sexuality, and your desire to be straight. Orgasm kills the male sex drive stone dead in a split second. From very, very horny, to no sexual interest whatsoever, in one moment. So the urge to do the gay thing goes. All that's left is the disgust with yourself for wanting to do the gay thing in the first place. Once you become comfortable with your true sexuality, this goes away. Orgasm still flatlines your sex drive, but you don't end up hating yourself for wanting to do things that are perfectly natural for you." | |||
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