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"I think you answered it, learn from the experience and don't meet people who don't whole heartedly agree with safe sex only. Some people seem to think everything is up for negotiation or we'll change our minds if we're turned on enough. No means no." Totally agree, if you say condoms and he starts to negotiate, walk away. | |||
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" I realise now I should have rub a mile before the meet but hindsight is a great thing. " Whoops should have said run a mile. Buy maybe stayed home and wanked was actually in my thoughts there! | |||
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"Just had an uncomfortable experience. My profile states clearly no bareback. Leading up to the meet he did say he didn't like condoms and I kept stating condoms. He even got tested and showed me the text during the session. During the meeting I could see how the condoms did reduce him. And I sympathied. So he then tried after one of my orgasms to stick him cock in with no protection. This was fucking difficult to handle as was having a lovely time up until that point. I realise now I should have rub a mile before the meet but hindsight is a great thing. What have others done? " did his feet touch the ground on the way out? I hope you kicked him out goid and proper... He 'stealthed' you...its a criminal offence in some countries akin to sexual assault and should be here too | |||
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"Thanks for the messages. They are helping me sort it out in my head. It's differently a learning experience. I just thought I was going to love have have fabulous sex and not this side of it. I think i was being a bit naive. " Condoms also affect me and that's why I prefer bb sex. I always approach honestly and openly. If condoms are required then there is no further discussion. Irrespective of whether you enjoy bb or protected, boundaries must be honoured and no means no. This site is about sex and fun within our personal limits. He clearly did not respect your boundaries; consequently I would suggest he did not respect you. Such a shame you were harassed into doing something you clearly were not happy in doing. Hopefully your future meets will be more respectful of you. | |||
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"If you don't want to be harassed by bb preferring guys make sure you put 'safe sex' in your interests area of your profile. " Some knobheads will still ignore....but good idea as a start! | |||
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"Tell him you only use condoms for his protection, because you're riddled! He will soon change his mind then." Half funny half yeahhhh do it!!! | |||
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"I have been 'stealthed' before. There was no alarm bells during our messages, nor chatting in person when we had a social. It wasn't until we were playing and he went behind me doggy that he must have removed it, cos I'd checked several times. I have had them come off inside me before now, but this was removed and cast aside. After he finished, I felt the unmistakable feeling of cum dripping out. I threw that fucker out the house as he stood. Naked, with his clothes in his arms, and his shoes thrown into the street as I slammed the door. Thankfully, I was tested quickly and all was well. Horrific what people are up to" Full credit to you. Well done. For me and forgive me if I sound dramatic here, but it's tantamount to sexual assault. Just reading your account made my blood boil. | |||
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"Just had an uncomfortable experience. My profile states clearly no bareback. Leading up to the meet he did say he didn't like condoms and I kept stating condoms. He even got tested and showed me the text during the session. During the meeting I could see how the condoms did reduce him. And I sympathied. So he then tried after one of my orgasms to stick him cock in with no protection. This was fucking difficult to handle as was having a lovely time up until that point. I realise now I should have rub a mile before the meet but hindsight is a great thing. What have others done? " If and when I get a meet which is never these days I always tell the lady up front that I play by her rules and her rules only what he did was disrespectful to you and this site...i only wish I could meet a stunner like you | |||
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"When he started to 'negotiate', you should've said that if he tries to penetrate you without a condom, the unwanted act is non-consensual sex, and will be treated as such " Absolutely, or just said No and no more messages. In the future it's a straight stop talking. It's all over my profile so no surprise. | |||
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"Fuck politeness when someone is disrespecting your boundaries. They obviously were only concerned about a good time for themselves and don't respect you enough as a person so never feel timid about being the one to raise holy hell. No means NO! " I agree here. if you said condoms and he doesn't want to use or tries it on without I would have gone mad and I have in the past because he tried to say he was the only one I could do bare with(I walked out on him after that) I wouldn't have cared if he did have a text to say he's clean or whatever. As above No Means No | |||
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"I have been 'stealthed' before. There was no alarm bells during our messages, nor chatting in person when we had a social. It wasn't until we were playing and he went behind me doggy that he must have removed it, cos I'd checked several times. I have had them come off inside me before now, but this was removed and cast aside. After he finished, I felt the unmistakable feeling of cum dripping out. I threw that fucker out the house as he stood. Naked, with his clothes in his arms, and his shoes thrown into the street as I slammed the door. Thankfully, I was tested quickly and all was well. Horrific what people are up to Full credit to you. Well done. For me and forgive me if I sound dramatic here, but it's tantamount to sexual assault. Just reading your account made my blood boil." It's not the worst thing that's happened to me tbh (not on fab,so not gonna mention it) This was 3 years ago...it has affected me mentally. I've not met via fab since and usually only meet with my partner. Can you imagine going to the police though?? They'd have laughed you out the station | |||
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"Entirely agree with posts here...it is a matter of respect for other person and if it says safe sex only then that's the rule so take it or leave it. As far as negotiation goes then agree beforehand not during and removal is tantamount to non consensual or assault. Should not be any room for doubt." We've had some lovely long term relationships over the years but have also come across quite a few guys who we soon realised weren't interested in what we are looking for and would try to push boundaries. We'd be chatting and they'd ask about bondage for example. We'd confirm that we're not interested in that. Oh OK, would come the reply then a short while after they'd start going on about how they wanted to "tie you up and fuck you so hard up the arse..." or something similar. That's one reason why we only meet guys we've chatted to a fair bit. It soon becomes pretty obvious what sort of person they are and whether they're listening or not. If the alarm bells start ringing we hear them and act accordingly. Of course hubby being present tends to focus the minds of those we meet but we haven't had any bad meetings at all over the years. On the journey to that point though it's been important to out those who're likely to cause problems of one sort or another and it's usually not too difficult to spot them. | |||
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"What if some cocks allergic to condoms!!!!" Latex free condims solve this as it's usually the latex people have an allergy to XX | |||
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"I think you will learn what people are truly like/after the longer you are here. If it rung any alarms with me whilst chatting,I would decline the meet. Its surprising the amount of people who have safe sex on their profile,but try and get bareback . Go with your instinct and you won't go far wrong. Miss" That is so true. Can't believe how naive and the crap I put up with when I first started going to clubs. Had this too OP. Tho it makes you realise how selfish people are. | |||
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"What if some cocks allergic to condoms!!!!" I make sure my condom bag has non latex and a variety of non latex ones in. | |||
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"I've had it happen in the dark room at a club. Put the condominium on the guy and he went behind to take me doggy style. He seemed to be taking longer than usual. When I reached back the condom had gone. Left him stood there in the dark. Definitely a learning experience though XX" that's why I take a torch with me | |||
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"What if some cocks allergic to condoms!!!!" you tell someone from the start and they can make an informed decision if they want to meet you...its not that hard really, is it? | |||
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"I have been 'stealthed' before. There was no alarm bells during our messages, nor chatting in person when we had a social. It wasn't until we were playing and he went behind me doggy that he must have removed it, cos I'd checked several times. I have had them come off inside me before now, but this was removed and cast aside. After he finished, I felt the unmistakable feeling of cum dripping out. I threw that fucker out the house as he stood. Naked, with his clothes in his arms, and his shoes thrown into the street as I slammed the door. Thankfully, I was tested quickly and all was well. Horrific what people are up to" In my book what he did is only a fag papers width from being r pe, that is not what you consented too. He deserves a call from the police! | |||
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"What if some cocks allergic to condoms!!!!" there are condoms available for this, so no excuse | |||
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"Thanks everyone this have helped me loads. I was thinking it's not that bad, why make a fuss ect ECT. But it is that bad and I have fallen for it. A massive learning curve for me. I just wanted to feel empowered in my sexual needs and this has soured it for me. Thanks to all your help and hopefully I will find the good ones soon. " Hopefully you will have better experiences in the future with respectful men. | |||
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"Take your time with the men, sound them out properly, any little niggle you have then move on. I have to say that not all men on here are like that but once you find a good one you'll not want to share him lol. " Unfortunately single men all tend to get tarred with the same brush. Fortunately not all of them are losers. | |||
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"The amount of guys that actually turn up without condoms is unreal. You can learn from this Hun. " . So the wives don't ask awkward questions when they find one in a forgotten pocket | |||
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"The amount of guys that actually turn up without condoms is unreal. You can learn from this Hun. . So the wives don't ask awkward questions when they find one in a forgotten pocket " Most keep them in their car boots! No joke they do. | |||
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"Just had an uncomfortable experience. My profile states clearly no bareback. Leading up to the meet he did say he didn't like condoms and I kept stating condoms. He even got tested and showed me the text during the session. During the meeting I could see how the condoms did reduce him. And I sympathied. So he then tried after one of my orgasms to stick him cock in with no protection. This was fucking difficult to handle as was having a lovely time up until that point. I realise now I should have rub a mile before the meet but hindsight is a great thing. What have others done? " At the point where you said, "Leading up to the meet", when his expectations didn't meet your requirements, the problem started when you met him. It was incompatible at the start. | |||
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"Guys...." I know right... And I am one. It is quite an unacceptable thing to do. And then some of us will moan about not getting meets. | |||
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"What would you tell the police? Met a man on fab, he's called bigdick4u or John. And he removed the condom during sex.....I did not consent to this. I'm not trying to pick holes, but are we asking for I.D before we get down to it? How do we get enough information to make sure we could go to the police? " I'm not sure how much others know about their meets but I have full names and phone number and an idea of where they live. Police can do a lot with even just a telephone number. And yes if need be then they can go through fab and request the info for the profile holder and take details from that. Including IP address. Sure you'd have to say where met etc. That's why it's your choice to go. But even just knowing and saying to a person that is illegal can make a difference. Good to know your rights | |||
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"we were talking to a man on here that said at first he was in too safe sex then as we chatted it changed too wanting to fuck the mrs without a rubber on,his excuse is as we are new to swinging we would be clean,hes been swinging for some time should we stick to our guns no condom no sex or go ahead without one " Should totally stick to your guns. You don't know he's clean and you guys have your own rules and that should work for people or they aren't the right person. Sounds a bit like he said it at the start to get a foot in now trying to change it | |||
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"we were talking to a man on here that said at first he was in too safe sex then as we chatted it changed too wanting to fuck the mrs without a rubber on,his excuse is as we are new to swinging we would be clean,hes been swinging for some time should we stick to our guns no condom no sex or go ahead without one Should totally stick to your guns. You don't know he's clean and you guys have your own rules and that should work for people or they aren't the right person. Sounds a bit like he said it at the start to get a foot in now trying to change it" I would offer that you have your own boundaries. Boundaries can change/ develop over time just the same as your fantasies. Bottom line on bb sex is that it is always risky. There are ways to detect a bullshitter. Those of us who prefer bb sex do get checked; myself every 6 weeks. Results are sent by text. If you ask for a letter and they say yes they will bring it. They are a billshitter. To get a letter the NHS charges £30 and is really only used by those in the porn industry hence why the NHS charges for the letter. Hope this helps. | |||
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"we were talking to a man on here that said at first he was in too safe sex then as we chatted it changed too wanting to fuck the mrs without a rubber on,his excuse is as we are new to swinging we would be clean,hes been swinging for some time should we stick to our guns no condom no sex or go ahead without one " so he's happy that he will be at less risk but doesn't give a shit about you both? the only people who can take responsibility for your sexual health is you... | |||
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"Fuck politeness when someone is disrespecting your boundaries. They obviously were only concerned about a good time for themselves and don't respect you enough as a person so never feel timid about being the one to raise holy hell. No means NO! " | |||
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"If you don't want to be harassed by bb preferring guys make sure you put 'safe sex' in your interests area of your profile. " I agree.. If you don't put safe sex it could be misinterpreted. | |||
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"If you don't want to be harassed by bb preferring guys make sure you put 'safe sex' in your interests area of your profile. I agree.. If you don't put safe sex it could be misinterpreted." Her profile stated safe sex and she said she doesn't do bare back?? What the hell?! no man just has the right to have sex with a woman bare back! Even if the profile doesn't say safe sex you should still assume that what she wants unless she specifically asks for unprotected!! | |||
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"People are prepared to push and push on here with blatant disregard and repspect , and it's repugnant , we really feel for you x " its not just on here, apparently there are whole communities of men discussing how to get away with stealthing and swapping tips. These are men who think it is their “right” to “spread their seed” with every woman they have sex with. One man, for example, has published a “comprehensive guide” to committing the act. It's been made illegal in Switzerland and there has been a conviction for it In the UK, the the Istanbul Convention, which aims to bring violence against women - including all non-consensual acts of a sexual nature - was ratified earlier this year, so stealthing would definitely come under that. taken from an article in the Independent in May | |||
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"Fuck politeness when someone is disrespecting your boundaries. They obviously were only concerned about a good time for themselves and don't respect you enough as a person so never feel timid about being the one to raise holy hell. No means NO! " This Totally disrespectful and only thinking of themselves! Run for the hills. | |||
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"Echo everything said here - your body your rules - no negotiation! Glad you're ok and no harm done but agree with others - red flag!" Also echo: trust gut instinct every time: if you have any doubts at all about someone, move on. To a reasonable, sane person, it's not an insult, just an acknowledgement of incompibility. | |||
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"What you have to also be aware of is guys who put on condoms in such a way that they split when they fuck. Guys don't say anything and say afterwards they didn't realise. Which is bollocks. A bloke can always feel it when a condom splits. If condoms have been agreed he should obviously then say it has split and replace it. What happened is totally out of order and a major lack of respect for OP. If he didn't like to use protection then he should not of had the meet, not been pushed and not made her feel uncomfortable in any way, but.... a guy cannot always feel when a condom has split and might not realise straight away if it slips off .... The general difficulty, especially for older men, is that for a man condoms do take away a lot of the feeling andmake orgasms more difficult. Hence some will push their luck. It obviously goes without saying that you should respect other people's choices and only have condom free sex with people who agree to it. " | |||
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"I had this happen at a recent meet i honestly felt to uncomfortable to say anything...later i messaged him about it and his response was just well i didnt see u chucking the condom on its not just upto thr guy.....charming he apparently only does safe sex but has said if he thinks he can trust a lass he'll not bother.... " So considering that chlamidia is often symptomless and very easy to catch it’s not possible to tell if some one has it just by looking at them. For casual encounters it’s just not worth the hassle of having to get tested all the time. Bareback sex is much better than wearing a condom but wearing a condom is much better than having a dose. If some one regularly goes with out a nodder the chances are high they have been infected | |||
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"I had this happen at a recent meet i honestly felt to uncomfortable to say anything...later i messaged him about it and his response was just well i didnt see u chucking the condom on its not just upto thr guy.....charming he apparently only does safe sex but has said if he thinks he can trust a lass he'll not bother.... So considering that chlamidia is often symptomless and very easy to catch it’s not possible to tell if some one has it just by looking at them. For casual encounters it’s just not worth the hassle of having to get tested all the time. Bareback sex is much better than wearing a condom but wearing a condom is much better than having a dose. If some one regularly goes with out a nodder the chances are high they have been infected " I know luckily im ok but just stating well if i think their clean ill go for it is laughable | |||
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"I had this happen at a recent meet i honestly felt to uncomfortable to say anything...later i messaged him about it and his response was just well i didnt see u chucking the condom on its not just upto thr guy.....charming he apparently only does safe sex but has said if he thinks he can trust a lass he'll not bother.... So considering that chlamidia is often symptomless and very easy to catch it’s not possible to tell if some one has it just by looking at them. For casual encounters it’s just not worth the hassle of having to get tested all the time. Bareback sex is much better than wearing a condom but wearing a condom is much better than having a dose. If some one regularly goes with out a nodder the chances are high they have been infected I know luckily im ok but just stating well if i think their clean ill go for it is laughable" It’s like playing Russian roulette with fannies | |||
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"I had this happen at a recent meet i honestly felt to uncomfortable to say anything...later i messaged him about it and his response was just well i didnt see u chucking the condom on its not just upto thr guy.....charming he apparently only does safe sex but has said if he thinks he can trust a lass he'll not bother.... So considering that chlamidia is often symptomless and very easy to catch it’s not possible to tell if some one has it just by looking at them. For casual encounters it’s just not worth the hassle of having to get tested all the time. Bareback sex is much better than wearing a condom but wearing a condom is much better than having a dose. If some one regularly goes with out a nodder the chances are high they have been infected I know luckily im ok but just stating well if i think their clean ill go for it is laughable It’s like playing Russian roulette with fannies " I just replied with sorry about the itch lol | |||
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"I had this happen at a recent meet i honestly felt to uncomfortable to say anything...later i messaged him about it and his response was just well i didnt see u chucking the condom on its not just upto thr guy.....charming he apparently only does safe sex but has said if he thinks he can trust a lass he'll not bother.... So considering that chlamidia is often symptomless and very easy to catch it’s not possible to tell if some one has it just by looking at them. For casual encounters it’s just not worth the hassle of having to get tested all the time. Bareback sex is much better than wearing a condom but wearing a condom is much better than having a dose. If some one regularly goes with out a nodder the chances are high they have been infected I know luckily im ok but just stating well if i think their clean ill go for it is laughable It’s like playing Russian roulette with fannies I just replied with sorry about the itch lol" Hehe | |||
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"Thanks for the messages. They are helping me sort it out in my head. It's differently a learning experience. I just thought I was going to love have have fabulous sex and not this side of it. I think i was being a bit naive. " be gentle with you, it is a learning curve, now you know, you can be confident in getting what you need x | |||
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" I don't think it's safe for a lone woman to tell a horny man a direct "no". I think it's much safer to make a random excuse and leave. " This makes me sad | |||
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