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"I suggest Fab to have a bareback option in the search section like they do bi and verified etc" Agreed. Would make it easier for us to find fellow bareback fans | |||
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"I suggest Fab to have a bareback option in the search section like they do bi and verified etc" Would be great | |||
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"I don't think there ever will be a bareback option, as its the sites responsibility to promote safe sex. XXX" and they don't have the responsibility to promote safe sex on a gay site such as fabguys right? | |||
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"I don't think there ever will be a bareback option, as its the sites responsibility to promote safe sex. XXX and they don't have the responsibility to promote safe sex on a gay site such as fabguys right?" Is BB an option in search on Fabguys? | |||
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"How about an option to upload a scan of your latest, dated, test results if you're a bareback fan. If you're going to support a cause do it properly, prove that your clean and you're safe to play with. Just because you don't have obvious symptoms doesn't mean you are clean. " And just because you have a test result saying you are clean doesnt mean you are either ... could have caught something too soon before the teat for it to show or after the test before the results Always have this face when i see these conments about a point in time std test making everything ok | |||
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"I don't think there ever will be a bareback option, as its the sites responsibility to promote safe sex. XXX and they don't have the responsibility to promote safe sex on a gay site such as fabguys right? Is BB an option in search on Fabguys?" Yes it is. Considering these are sister sites there are several things unavailable on one site that are available on the other. Such as; FORUM...Fabguys doesn't have that but this site does | |||
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"Is BB an option in search on Fabguys?" It certainly is. But on the flip side, no watersports or fisting. | |||
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"I don't think there ever will be a bareback option, as its the sites responsibility to promote safe sex. XXX" its it a option on fab guys | |||
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"I don't think there ever will be a bareback option, as its the sites responsibility to promote safe sex. XXX" No. No it's not. | |||
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"I suggest Fab to have a bareback option in the search section like they do bi and verified etc" I'd like there to be a NOT option in the search options so I can exclude those who have bareback checked from my searches | |||
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"How about an option to upload a scan of your latest, dated, test results if you're a bareback fan. If you're going to support a cause do it properly, prove that your clean and you're safe to play with. Just because you don't have obvious symptoms doesn't mean you are clean. By all means get spunky who doesn't love getting sticky! But if you don't know, for certain, you're safe why would you risk other people's health? That seems negligent. It might encourage us all to get tested more regularly and far more importantly get the people with hidden problems treated. Then the backbackers get their clean bill of health and keep whole swinging community safer. For once they could lord it over the rest of the swingers who frown upon their fetishes "Look I can prove I'm safe, and there's the last few months tests too. Where's yours?" " I get tested every three months but I could not scan my results as they are given over the phone. | |||
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"How about an option to upload a scan of your latest, dated, test results if you're a bareback fan. If you're going to support a cause do it properly, prove that your clean and you're safe to play with. Just because you don't have obvious symptoms doesn't mean you are clean And just because you have a test result saying you are clean doesnt mean you are either ... could have caught something too soon before the teat for it to show or after the test before the results Always have this face when i see these conments about a point in time std test making everything ok " I have a question, do you use condoms and vaginal dams when you have oral sex with other swingers? | |||
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"The only advantage of a bareback option would be I could instantly block them all from messaging me x " SNAP | |||
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"How about an option to upload a scan of your latest, dated, test results if you're a bareback fan. If you're going to support a cause do it properly, prove that your clean and you're safe to play with. Just because you don't have obvious symptoms doesn't mean you are clean And just because you have a test result saying you are clean doesnt mean you are either ... could have caught something too soon before the teat for it to show or after the test before the results Always have this face when i see these conments about a point in time std test making everything ok I have a question, do you use condoms and vaginal dams when you have oral sex with other swingers?" 1. Why is the question specifically about sex with swingers? Do you think just because someone doesnt swing they are immune from stds 2. No because if you do any sort of research you will know that stds transferred from oral are much less likely ... its a case of balancing risk vs enjoyment 3. I am also not naive enough to think that using a condom would protect me 100% anyway ... but when i get regularly checked it is for my own health ... not so i can wave a bit of paper at someone and say look you can fuck me without protection now | |||
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"How about an option to upload a scan of your latest, dated, test results if you're a bareback fan. If you're going to support a cause do it properly, prove that your clean and you're safe to play with. Just because you don't have obvious symptoms doesn't mean you are clean And just because you have a test result saying you are clean doesnt mean you are either ... could have caught something too soon before the teat for it to show or after the test before the results Always have this face when i see these conments about a point in time std test making everything ok I have a question, do you use condoms and vaginal dams when you have oral sex with other swingers? 1. Why is the question specifically about sex with swingers? Do you think just because someone doesnt swing they are immune from stds 2. No because if you do any sort of research you will know that stds transferred from oral are much less likely ... its a case of balancing risk vs enjoyment 3. I am also not naive enough to think that using a condom would protect me 100% anyway ... but when i get regularly checked it is for my own health ... not so i can wave a bit of paper at someone and say look you can fuck me without protection now " respect | |||
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"I don't think there ever will be a bareback option, as its the sites responsibility to promote safe sex. XXX" I thought it could promote safe sex, because I would more easily avoid people who look for bareback sex. Without them cluttering up my search it would make my searches safer. Besides this site is not out to force people to have safe sex (that will fail), but it should be promoting choice and allow users to obtain the correct information. | |||
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"I don't think there ever will be a bareback option, as its the sites responsibility to promote safe sex. XXX I think it will promote safe sex. Those who care, will know who stay away from. " Exactly. | |||
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"How about an option to upload a scan of your latest, dated, test results if you're a bareback fan. If you're going to support a cause do it properly, prove that your clean and you're safe to play with. Just because you don't have obvious symptoms doesn't mean you are clean And just because you have a test result saying you are clean doesnt mean you are either ... could have caught something too soon before the teat for it to show or after the test before the results Always have this face when i see these conments about a point in time std test making everything ok I have a question, do you use condoms and vaginal dams when you have oral sex with other swingers? 1. Why is the question specifically about sex with swingers? Do you think just because someone doesnt swing they are immune from stds 2. No because if you do any sort of research you will know that stds transferred from oral are much less likely ... its a case of balancing risk vs enjoyment 3. I am also not naive enough to think that using a condom would protect me 100% anyway ... but when i get regularly checked it is for my own health ... not so i can wave a bit of paper at someone and say look you can fuck me without protection now " My question was not intended to offend and I apologise if you felt it was. I mentioned swingers as this I a swinging forum and of course I know stds are not exclusive to the swinging scene. I don't and never will use my test result as a way of saying we don't need safe sex because im officially clean. However I do post them so that whoever wishes to have fun with me can see I do get tested regularly and then they can decide what way they want to go. | |||
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"How about an option to upload a scan of your latest, dated, test results if you're a bareback fan. If you're going to support a cause do it properly, prove that your clean and you're safe to play with. Just because you don't have obvious symptoms doesn't mean you are clean And just because you have a test result saying you are clean doesnt mean you are either ... could have caught something too soon before the teat for it to show or after the test before the results Always have this face when i see these conments about a point in time std test making everything ok I have a question, do you use condoms and vaginal dams when you have oral sex with other swingers? 1. Why is the question specifically about sex with swingers? Do you think just because someone doesnt swing they are immune from stds 2. No because if you do any sort of research you will know that stds transferred from oral are much less likely ... its a case of balancing risk vs enjoyment 3. I am also not naive enough to think that using a condom would protect me 100% anyway ... but when i get regularly checked it is for my own health ... not so i can wave a bit of paper at someone and say look you can fuck me without protection now " I'm not sure where your information for your 2nd statement comes from. My centre recently told me it's the most common risk. Had 3 charts shown to me to confirm what they said. Would like to know your source. | |||
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"How about an option to upload a scan of your latest, dated, test results if you're a bareback fan. If you're going to support a cause do it properly, prove that your clean and you're safe to play with. Just because you don't have obvious symptoms doesn't mean you are clean. Yes we are the same here and just because you use a comdom doesn't make you safe you still need to get tested By all means get spunky who doesn't love getting sticky! But if you don't know, for certain, you're safe why would you risk other people's health? That seems negligent. It might encourage us all to get tested more regularly and far more importantly get the people with hidden problems treated. Then the backbackers get their clean bill of health and keep whole swinging community safer. For once they could lord it over the rest of the swingers who frown upon their fetishes "Look I can prove I'm safe, and there's the last few months tests too. Where's yours?" I get tested every three months but I could not scan my results as they are given over the phone." | |||
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"The only advantage of a bareback option would be I could instantly block them all from messaging me x " Well said ! X | |||
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"I don't think there ever will be a bareback option, as its the sites responsibility to promote safe sex. XXX and they don't have the responsibility to promote safe sex on a gay site such as fabguys right? Is BB an option in search on Fabguys? Yes it is. Considering these are sister sites there are several things unavailable on one site that are available on the other. Such as; FORUM...Fabguys doesn't have that but this site does " Fabguys does have a forum, there's just no hyperlink for it in the UI. Enter /forum at the end of the regular fabguys URL. No idea why they hide it. | |||
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" 1. Why is the question specifically about sex with swingers? Do you think just because someone doesnt swing they are immune from stds 2. No because if you do any sort of research you will know that stds transferred from oral are much less likely ... its a case of balancing risk vs enjoyment 3. I am also not naive enough to think that using a condom would protect me 100% anyway ... but when i get regularly checked it is for my own health ... not so i can wave a bit of paper at someone and say look you can fuck me without protection now I'm not sure where your information for your 2nd statement comes from. My centre recently told me it's the most common risk. Had 3 charts shown to me to confirm what they said. Would like to know your source." From fpa.org.uk: How safe is oral sex? It is very difficult to give a definite answer to this, as it can be hard to find out exactly how a sexually transmitted infection was passed on. What we do know is: - some infections are spread more easily through oral sex than others - oral sex is generally safer than penetrative unprotected (that is, without a condom) vaginal or anal sex - for most infections, being given (receiving) oral sex is probably safer than giving oral sex because you are less likely to be exposed to genital fluids Web md.com Oral sex is not safe sex," says Terri Warren, RN, owner of Westover Heights Clinic in Portland, Ore., a private clinic specializing in STDs. "It's safer sex, but it's definitely not safe sex." Cdc.gov Studies have shown that the risk of getting HIV from having oral sex with an infected partner (either giving or getting oral sex) is much lower than the risk of getting HIV from anal or vaginal sex with an infected partner. It is possible that getting certain STDs, such as chlamydia or gonorrhea, in the throat may not pose as great a threat to an infected person’s health as getting an STD in the genital area or rectum. Just the first few results on google ... Oh and the fact that a number of NHS areas deem it low enough risk that they wont even offer you a throat swab as standard at the gum clinic as its a waste of their time and money | |||
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" I have no problem with people choosing to avoid others that do things they don't wish to do themselves. However all activities between everyone involved relies on trust and can anyone that demand safe sex only be certain that the person they are sucking,licking or kissing has never had unprotected sex? " You can never be sure of anything ... have to take what people say with a pinch of salt and protect yourself to the level you feel is appropriate However bb pics on a profile are obviously a fairly good indicator of someones prior behaviour ... as would a bb preference or interest option | |||
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" I have no problem with people choosing to avoid others that do things they don't wish to do themselves. However all activities between everyone involved relies on trust and can anyone that demand safe sex only be certain that the person they are sucking,licking or kissing has never had unprotected sex? You can never be sure of anything ... have to take what people say with a pinch of salt and protect yourself to the level you feel is appropriate However bb pics on a profile are obviously a fairly good indicator of someones prior behaviour ... as would a bb preference or interest option " I agree however without any evidence it still comes down to trust and honesty from all involved. I don't see that any of us are totally safe although I feel that in the main swingers are more in tune with the risks you still have those of both sexes that will say and do anything just to have sex. I therefore don't see any foolproof way to be totally safe other than wearing a full body condom and thus taste and feel nothing but latex and what fun would that be! | |||
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" I have no problem with people choosing to avoid others that do things they don't wish to do themselves. However all activities between everyone involved relies on trust and can anyone that demand safe sex only be certain that the person they are sucking,licking or kissing has never had unprotected sex? You can never be sure of anything ... have to take what people say with a pinch of salt and protect yourself to the level you feel is appropriate However bb pics on a profile are obviously a fairly good indicator of someones prior behaviour ... as would a bb preference or interest option I agree however without any evidence it still comes down to trust and honesty from all involved. I don't see that any of us are totally safe although I feel that in the main swingers are more in tune with the risks you still have those of both sexes that will say and do anything just to have sex. I therefore don't see any foolproof way to be totally safe other than wearing a full body condom and thus taste and feel nothing but latex and what fun would that be!" Only full proof way is to abstain ... but as ive said earlier in the thread its about balancing risk vs enjoyment at a level you are happy with ... for some thats bareback with regular testing, for me its condoms for penetrative sex outwith a monogamous relationship | |||
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"Should also add no matter what "evidence" they want to provide me with " I agree and any guy that refuses to wear a condom when its requested is a total bell end and should not be surprised when he's told to foxtrot Oscar. | |||
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"There are so many people on this site who seem petrified with catching an sti. Why are they on a site like this then? Sex can be risky. You can reduce risk, but not eliminate it. I think there is nothing worse than the sanctimonious safe sex preachers who want to interfere in the pleasure of others. Well said If you don't bareback , then avoid discussions like these. We don't need to hear your disapproval. Each to his own!" | |||
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"The only advantage of a bareback option would be I could instantly block them all from messaging me x SNAP " Which is why a proportion would not be honest and tick the box, as they feel it narrows their chances or they will become open to abuse. Just like so many bi guys put straight on their profiles. | |||
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"I don't think there ever will be a bareback option, as its the sites responsibility to promote safe sex. XXX" Why do they have a responsibility to promote such a thing. If we're really going down the moral route, this site should shut down as it's promoting illicit sex, many from.the general public would find wrong, distasteful and disgusting. | |||
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"There are so many people on this site who seem petrified with catching an sti. Why are they on a site like this then? Sex can be risky. You can reduce risk, but not eliminate it. I think there is nothing worse than the sanctimonious safe sex preachers who want to interfere in the pleasure of others. If you don't bareback , then avoid discussions like these. We don't need to hear your disapproval. Each to his own!" well said | |||
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"How about an option to upload a scan of your latest, dated, test results if you're a bareback fan. If you're going to support a cause do it properly, prove that your clean and you're safe to play with. Just because you don't have obvious symptoms doesn't mean you are clean. And just because you have a test result saying you are clean doesnt mean you are either ... could have caught something too soon before the teat for it to show or after the test before the results Always have this face when i see these conments about a point in time std test making everything ok " But it shows you are being responsible and I would rather meet someone who gets tested than who doesn't. | |||
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"The only advantage of a bareback option would be I could instantly block them all from messaging me x SNAP Which is why a proportion would not be honest and tick the box, as they feel it narrows their chances or they will become open to abuse. Just like so many bi guys put straight on their profiles." Too true... You will still get dozens or hundreds of messages a day from people saying the opposite of what their profile shows just on the off chance that they score a shag from it. It happens like that on fabguys so it will happen here. | |||
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"How about an option to upload a scan of your latest, dated, test results if you're a bareback fan. If you're going to support a cause do it properly, prove that your clean and you're safe to play with. Just because you don't have obvious symptoms doesn't mean you are clean. And just because you have a test result saying you are clean doesnt mean you are either ... could have caught something too soon before the teat for it to show or after the test before the results Always have this face when i see these conments about a point in time std test making everything ok " Reminds me of a government minister who attended an AIDS conference in the US and ended up having sex with a lady at the conference. Bareback, of course. Lady got pregnant and they had twins. Swear down, this is fact. I don't want to name the country but Google has the info. You can check and inbox me. | |||
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"I don't think there ever will be a bareback option, as its the sites responsibility to promote safe sex. XXX" Its an option on fab guys so ehy not fab swingers | |||
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"How about an option to upload a scan of your latest, dated, test results if you're a bareback fan. If you're going to support a cause do it properly, prove that your clean and you're safe to play with. Just because you don't have obvious symptoms doesn't mean you are clean. And just because you have a test result saying you are clean doesnt mean you are either ... could have caught something too soon before the teat for it to show or after the test before the results Always have this face when i see these conments about a point in time std test making everything ok But it shows you are being responsible and I would rather meet someone who gets tested than who doesn't. " Absolutely. A full STI screening resets the mileometer as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps to a few days or weeks before the latest test, but certainly removing the cumulative risk before that. There are different kinds of HIV test now. The older and cheaper ones detect antibodies and will give false negatives in those who have yet to create an immune response (which is actually when they're at their most infectious.) This is typically no more than 6 weeks in healthy people but can be up to 12 if their immune system is already compromised. The more modern tests can detect the presence of the virus rather than the immune response. They work as soon as the virus or its indicators are guaranteed to be present in the body fluid sample. Usually a matter of days from infection. If in doubt, ask which kind of test they're using and what the window period is. | |||
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