FabSwingers.com forum: Why no bi

By *he Happy Man OP Man
over a year ago

Merseyside

This a curiosity question.

I have read on some profiles that they will not play with bi men with is fair enough we all have our own choices, likes, dislikes etc etc. However what I don't understand is the profiles that state even if you are straight, if you have ever played with a couple where the man is bi (and you did not play with the guy) we won't meet you.

You don't see the same in relation to women i.e if you are bi woman we will not play with you or if you have ever played with a couple where the woman was bi we will not play with you.

So my question is why do so many people get freaked out by bi guys?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For us we just dont like the idea of bi men.. Master certainly doesnt fear that a bi guy would touch him...

I think its kinda just the fact that they do things that the very idea of makes us feel icky..

its not anything against the people themselves.. but the acts they may do with others...

We have even stopped playing with a guy we have met a few times as he now has bi on his profile and verifications..

I guess same as some couples/singles dont want to play with my Master or myself alone because while we do not ever do bdsm things with meets, they know we do and that in itself puts them off..

Not making it as clear as it is in my head.. but hope it makes some sense.

Katie,x

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

As Katie says, it is the thought of the acts that the guys may get up to that puts some off. The whole point is that everyone be relaxed with each other and that just can't happen in these cases.

a few may be homophobic.

A lot will have Gay/Bi guys as friends and they are very happy to socialise, just not shag us.

and that is cool with me.

I adore the honesty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As Katie says, it is the thought of the acts that the guys may get up to that puts some off. The whole point is that everyone be relaxed with each other and that just can't happen in these cases.

a few may be homophobic.

A lot will have Gay/Bi guys as friends and they are very happy to socialise, just not shag us.

and that is cool with me.

I adore the honesty.

Well put xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As Katie says, it is the thought of the acts that the guys may get up to that puts some off. The whole point is that everyone be relaxed with each other and that just can't happen in these cases.

a few may be homophobic.

A lot will have Gay/Bi guys as friends and they are very happy to socialise, just not shag us.

and that is cool with me.

I adore the honesty.

Well put xx

Have to admit that I used to feel very uneasy in close company of bi guys, but no one has ever overstepped the mark with me, and because of that, I'm now at ease with it.

I know blokes suck cock, so do women, blokes lick pussy, so do women, blokes take it up the bum, so do women.

I must be too thick to let it bother me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe they are worried in case a stray hand 'accidently' brushes across their todger ?

If we played with another couple there is no way on earth I'd try anything on with the guy unless he specifically said he was interested - not even an accidental touch ..

But you can certainly see why some folks are scared because probably some bi guys/gals have tried it on with them in the past ... who knows ?

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall

A couple told us recently it was because they felt that guys were not as safe and bifun in guys carries too many risks.

Mistress x

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"A couple told us recently it was because they felt that guys were not as safe and bifun in guys carries too many risks.

Mistress x"

another very good point.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

and actually I have been in MMF situations with another str8 guy and I have felt uncomfortable in case I accidentally touched and he thought I was crossing the boundary.

and I have looked at every single cock I have ever been in the company of... and some I have thought, oh god, he is str8, wish he wasn't as i would love to chomp on that.

and others, looked and thought.. thank fuck he str8, saves me knocking him back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A couple told us recently it was because they felt that guys were not as safe and bifun in guys carries too many risks.

Mistress x

another very good point. "

I've heard that too, but is a womans arse cleaner than a guys arse then?

Do woman insist on condoms for anal but blokes are more likely not too?

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall

"A couple told us recently it was because they felt that guys were not as safe and bifun in guys carries too many risks.

Mistress x

another very good point.

I've heard that too, but is a womans arse cleaner than a guys arse then?

Do woman insist on condoms for anal but blokes are more likely not too?

The theory is.... guys are not as bothered about protection as women or couples.

Mistress x

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

BI/Gay Men are still in the higher risk group.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"and actually I have been in MMF situations with another str8 guy and I have felt uncomfortable in case I accidentally touched and he thought I was crossing the boundary.

and I have looked at every single cock I have ever been in the company of... and some I have thought, oh god, he is str8, wish he wasn't as i would love to chomp on that.

and others, looked and thought.. thank fuck he str8, saves me knocking him back."

I'm giggling away here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As Katie says, it is the thought of the acts that the guys may get up to that puts some off. The whole point is that everyone be relaxed with each other and that just can't happen in these cases.

a few may be homophobic.

A lot will have Gay/Bi guys as friends and they are very happy to socialise, just not shag us.

and that is cool with me.

I adore the honesty.

That is where i am.

I am not homophobic my goodness i have employed gay guys bi guys, my cousin is gay, i shared a house many years ago with 2 rent boys and a gay couple (lol that was some house!) the landlord of siad house was gay.... i could go on.

But i just cannot play with bisexual guys. View knows i love him to bits, have had a wee snog and a shimmy on the dancefloor with him, but all he will ever be to me is a very good friend. Someone i adore, someone i would trust with my life.

Its all about choices and boundaries.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We actually only really play with guys in a group situation..and are aware it would actually be easier for us if we had bi guys.. as there are a lot of straight guys that get uncomfy in that situation.

However in group situations you may get cocks close together, accidental touching but it doesnt matter..

Master may have his own reasons.. but for me its the just the thought of the acts... I recently blocked a friends photos on another site as his avatar was him sucking his b/fs cock... and I actually felt ill.. ( yet we are good mates)

So for me its definately the acts its self.. and I would not be able to look at them.. I dont mean to offend anyone.. just being honest as to our reasons why...

Katie. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A couple told us recently it was because they felt that guys were not as safe and bifun in guys carries too many risks.

Mistress x"

This is also what puts me off bi guys I shared a house with a gay lad he was the biggest man whore I have ever met lol lovley lad tho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A couple told us recently it was because they felt that guys were not as safe and bifun in guys carries too many risks.

Mistress x

This is also what puts me off bi guys I shared a house with a gay lad he was the biggest man whore I have ever met lol lovley lad tho

I know plenty of women that have been cocked more times than John Waynes rifle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes but women tend to request safe sex guys not so much

I only have bb with my husband it's special

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Homosexuality exists in 450 different species.

Homophobia exists in only one.

Go figure who the odd one out is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's unfair to tar bi and gay men all with the same brush. Not all are going round barebacking. Just like some straight or bi fem couples,some play safe and some don't.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I think it's unfair to tar bi and gay men all with the same brush. Not all are going round barebacking. Just like some straight or bi fem couples,some play safe and some don't."

Exactly....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it's unfair to tar bi and gay men all with the same brush. Not all are going round barebacking. Just like some straight or bi fem couples,some play safe and some don't."

I agree as many so called straight and safe couples are bi and hide it on here and alot do bb, for the record been asked to myself but refused on numerous occasions, even at meets when stated previously that i play safe!! just for most peoples information the fastest growing section of the population contracting and passing on sti's is middle aged straight couples as taking risks bb with playing partners.

It's all about personal preference and as for some people not liking the act between 2 guys then that's fine, that's their homophobic preference. Bet most have stuck a cucumber up their arse sometime in past or ended up in A&E falling over naked onto the Hoover lmao

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

"My issue" is simple:

Whilst on a personal an social level I see no difference (or who they play with, their business) or even in the odd threesome on the agreement the focus is on the lady (nothing between myself and the other fella).

Its the ones that don't get the message:

1) the ones that in said-threesome-scenario start trying it on (with me)

2) The ones that email thinking I'll change my mind (and preference) just for them

3) Or the ones that accuse me of not being open-minded.

Surely everyone has a right to preference?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"that's their homophobic preference."

Oh?!! I take it then you'd class someone racist if they didn't wish to play with black people?!!

People are entitled to their preferences without being labelled as intolerant! I find gay porn highly erotic, but I have no desire to play with bi men. As a Domme I like the "fear" factor, the gulping, paling, blushing etc displayed by a straight man when he's been taken with a strap on: it never goes away. Bi men, the one's I've met in the past, don't display that, hence no enjoyment for me, hence no bi men!

I'm sure no one will object to my choice of playmates!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can safely say that nothing has ever, nor would it ever, be it finger, tongue or anything else go near Masters arse... So he doesnt fall into that catergory.

Katie. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This a curiosity question.

You don't see the same in relation to women i.e if you are bi woman we will not play with you or if you have ever played with a couple where the woman was bi we will not play with you.

So my question is why do so many people get freaked out by bi guys? "

We can't see, as your down as a straight guy, why it bothers you enough to question it.

The question has often been asked, mainly from disgruntled bi guys.

Trace is a genuinely bi woman who only wants to meet bi women, whether they're half of a couple or not.

She wouldn't get upset if straight women said they don't want to meet bi women.

She'd just concentrate on the ones that were bi.........why can't men do the same without whinging on the forums or trying to meet by deception?

XXXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You dont know a person is bi unless they tell you or have it on their profile.......we get bucketloads of mail from "straight" guys who mail us saying "i am bi".

Ultimately they are cheating the people looking for straight guys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Against gay people ?

Blame straight people their the ones that keeping having gay babies

lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we love bi guys.

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By *ittle-Miss-MuffetCouple
over a year ago

Chester / North Wales

Now, I may be wrong here, so please do correct me.. but I always thought the _iew that Bi/Gay men were at a higher risk of STD's started in the 80's, mainly due to the scare of the Aids epidemic, which largely didn't happen as expected. Now, wasn't that mainly because Gay men were considered to be more promiscuous? Well, here we are on a swingers site where promiscuity almost seems like the norm, and yet we still _iew Gay/Bi men as the social leppers?

I do find it funny that despite them saying otherwise, many straight men seem to be uneasy around Bi men in case they may make a move on them, yet doesn't seem to be so much of a problem for straight / Bi women? Note to the guys.. there aren't many on here that are so attractive that others wouldn't be able to control themselves around you, you know..

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By *eakcoupleCouple
over a year ago

peak district

We played with a couple where the woman was very bi and the man made it very plain at the outset that he was totally and utterly straight. During the evening he suggested the men DV'd the women, which they did. We were both amused that the guy wanted (and enjoyed!) cock-on-cock contact inside a female but would have freaked out if that had happened outside a pussy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

on the flip side i am straight but would have no issue in meeting a bi couple and we have done so many a time as for the bi guys question well they are always welcome to come play too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now, I may be wrong here, so please do correct me.. but I always thought the _iew that Bi/Gay men were at a higher risk of STD's started in the 80's, mainly due to the scare of the Aids epidemic, which largely didn't happen as expected. Now, wasn't that mainly because Gay men were considered to be more promiscuous? Well, here we are on a swingers site where promiscuity almost seems like the norm, and yet we still _iew Gay/Bi men as the social leppers?

Genuinely think some think that bi men cant control themselves, like if they see cock the must have it. I know that personally, i'm not like that with either sex, i have control and boundaries!

Makes me laugh though, even last night had a 'straight' guy last night approach us in the club and say Alex made him curious. Perhaps the irresistability is on the other side!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"that's their homophobic preference.

Oh?!! I take it then you'd class someone racist if they didn't wish to play with black people?!!

I'm sure no one will object to my choice of playmates!

Alex is a top, think he'd get pretty nervous

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By *ittle-Miss-MuffetCouple
over a year ago

Chester / North Wales

"We played with a couple where the woman was very bi and the man made it very plain at the outset that he was totally and utterly straight. During the evening he suggested the men DV'd the women, which they did. We were both amused that the guy wanted (and enjoyed!) cock-on-cock contact inside a female but would have freaked out if that had happened outside a pussy!

Think that's different though isn't it? It's two men pleasuring a woman, the contact is incidental? I don't think it's the actual 'cock on cock' contact that's the arousing part. Well, in our experience anyway, might be different for others..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As Katie says, it is the thought of the acts that the guys may get up to that puts some off. The whole point is that everyone be relaxed with each other and that just can't happen in these cases.

a few may be homophobic.

A lot will have Gay/Bi guys as friends and they are very happy to socialise, just not shag us.

and that is cool with me.

I adore the honesty.

Well put xx

Have to admit that I used to feel very uneasy in close company of bi guys, but no one has ever overstepped the mark with me, and because of that, I'm now at ease with it.

I know blokes suck cock, so do women, blokes lick pussy, so do women, blokes take it up the bum, so do women.

I must be too thick to let it bother me"

So well put and covered in a nutshell, begs the question, whats the issue!!! People just need to appreciate others boundaries and not over step them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Genuinely think some think that bi men cant control themselves, like if they see cock the must have it. I know that personally, i'm not like that with either sex, i have control and boundaries!

Makes me laugh though, even last night had a 'straight' guy last night approach us in the club and say Alex made him curious. Perhaps the irresistability is on the other side!!"

Glad you said some as some bi guys can resist and some can't some women can some can't it is all to do with the INDIVIDUAL!!!

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By *ittle-Miss-MuffetCouple
over a year ago

Chester / North Wales

Genuinely think some think that bi men cant control themselves, like if they see cock the must have it. I know that personally, i'm not like that with either sex, i have control and boundaries!

Makes me laugh though, even last night had a 'straight' guy last night approach us in the club and say Alex made him curious. Perhaps the irresistability is on the other side!!

Glad you said some as some bi guys can resist and some can't some women can some can't it is all to do with the INDIVIDUAL!!!

Which is why I said 'some'. Your point being?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why no bi? I (f) didn't used to want to meet bi guys when I first started swinging, as I thought it meant R was gay! Naïveté or what?! We do now state orally bi guys, which is all that R wants, but not put off bi guys at all. I can understand why some people are tho, but at the end of the day, it is down to individual choice. This can change over time, as I have found out. But there are plenty of people on here for everyone to find just what they are looking for.

If you don't like someone's profile, or sexuality, get over it, block & move on - life's too short to not have fun!!

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

They is frightened I stick my finger up their bums and makes em homos .....

I phink anyways...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This a curiosity question.

You don't see the same in relation to women i.e if you are bi woman we will not play with you or if you have ever played with a couple where the woman was bi we will not play with you.

So my question is why do so many people get freaked out by bi guys? "

i find bi guys a pain in the arse , lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The theory is.... guys are not as bothered about protection as women or couples.

Mistress x"

I would argue on that point. I think it's more of an obfuscation than a justification.

In 'my' experience, (most) bi guys are *more* aware of the risks and take more precautions, than do 'straight' guys.

But, hey, everyone has their boundaries, it's all good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just to wade in with out 2 pence. Saint has bi-curious on his profile here, however he has not had, nor does he want to have anal sex with a guy. He has done oral both ways but that's it, we find meeting couples/guys who have bi/bi-curious as their preferance makes for much more relaxed meet.There's none of this who's hand is where business.

As for bi/gay men being a greater risk, I beg to differ, once up on a time this was true but lastest statistic show the 'higher' risk is negligable.

We all play a high risk game here, after all we are all playing with multiple sexual partners. I believe we all protect ourseleves as best we can (safe sex an all).

I respect some people prefer not to play with bi guys who obviously are looking for a bi play session, but as to why a couple or single wouldn't play with a guy just because he's done oral say, well that baffles me as it's no different to me having done oral with the same bloke. Just my opinon.

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall

The theory is.... guys are not as bothered about protection as women or couples.

Mistress x

I would argue on that point. I think it's more of an obfuscation than a justification.

In 'my' experience, (most) bi guys are *more* aware of the risks and take more precautions, than do 'straight' guys.

But, hey, everyone has their boundaries, it's all good.

I would argue that nobody needs to justify why they don't want to have sex with someone. Personally not bothered. People we meet respect boundaries as do we.

Mistress x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting topic this.

I know very few straight men and women that get tested regularly yet all my gay and bi acquaintances do as a matter of course.

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By *ddiddyMan
over a year ago

kilkenny

"A couple told us recently it was because they felt that guys were not as safe and bifun in guys carries too many risks.

Mistress x"

but surely no one knows where any of us have been and what we have been up too in our private lives whether we are bi gay lesbion straight or whatever we like sexually we all carry risks not just bi guys or gay guys you have to decide if the risks are worth the fun

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By *sLagerthaWoman
over a year ago

Wednesbury

Ultimately it's fear of the unknown/untried with very narrow feilds of thinking and rationalising sexuality. I know this as I was once one of those people and now thankfully have opened my eyes and educated myself to the truth of the matter - as others should do. Yes we all have our own preference in the people we find attractive, but sweeping generalisations from an inexperienced/un-sexually educated point of _iew is just rude and offencive.

I have no shame in telling you that even with safe sex practices your never 100% safe - I have been given STI's from straight people in the past who were in their own times long term partners!!! Not bi or gay - we seem to care more about the sexual health of our partners and selves.

REALITY check most straight men are really bi but won't admit it (thats not to say all are mind) so even those of you who like to screen and block them out will at some point have been with at least one!

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"You dont know a person is bi unless they tell you or have it on their profile.......we get bucketloads of mail from "straight" guys who mail us saying "i am bi".

Ultimately they are cheating the people looking for straight guys

I get loads of mail from "straight guys" but hey ho I suppose I'm lucky or not? Is it it yes I would or no because they are lying?.....

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