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"I think you'd be surprised! Let's face it, people who bareback with strangers aren't generally known for their common sense!" What a shocking comment.. Just because they like it.. you would think condoms made it safe... and i dont think most do it with strangers.. but I would like to see it as an interest as its something that on occassion we will participate in with a regular meet. Katie. x | |||
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"This topic is flogged to death EVERY week; search bareback if you think I exaggerate! There are people that bareback and have it on their profile. If you were to tell your friends you met strangers for sex they'd be aghast as it's promiscuous! I'm of the _iew where I leave adults alone to make up their own minds in how they want to play. You're naïve if you believe if bareback was an option it would be ticked! Bi men have straight on their profile, married men are single etc. Some people are here to enjoy the experience how they want, even if it means fewer meets and some will lie through their teeth to maximise their meets!" +1 | |||
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"'Safe sex' is a tickable option on the interest list so as a general rule we assume that if a member doesn't tick that box, they prefer to play bareback." Is the correct answer | |||
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"I think you'd be surprised! Let's face it, people who bareback with strangers aren't generally known for their common sense!" our kinda guy, straight talking, but wont do you any favours opening your mouth here, trust me we have tried. anyway totally agree with what you say and loved the way you said it | |||
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"'Safe sex' is a tickable option on the interest list so as a general rule we assume that if a member doesn't tick that box, they prefer to play bareback." Really? So what do soft swingers tick then? They can't honestly tick safe sex as they don't do penetration with others and it is a pretty sure bet they bareback with their own partner.... What about folks who enjoy both safe and bareback what should they tick hmmm.... Can anyone come up with a good reason why to *not* have the bareback option to tick. One other site we regularly use has this option and a quick check shows..... 15% of the members there tick bareback fun as a 'looking for' option. Some of those also tick safe sex. | |||
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"Makes us laugh this thread coz saying that ud avoid ppl coz they go BB is just stupid ,they may go BB with others but uve a choice in it ,no condom no play simples and coz theyve gone BB with otheres dont mean that its set in stone and all they want is to go BB with everyone they meet.we sure that if yous ask them the magority would happily cover up without a second thought and when they do what more risks are you taking that uve not already taken in this game ,are u all 100% sure that every body uve ever played with has never gone BB coz unless you a mind reader theres no way you could possibly ever know, if they had gone BB in the past would they tell you ,would they feel they had to tell you ?? Its dwn to ppls choices ,if we met up with a proper sexy as feck cpl who liked to go BB we would be happy to play so long as with us they b appy 2 use condoms and if they ok with that bring it on.but what extra dangers is there in playing with a cpl who go BB but with you condoms are in place to the cpl who never play BB but always use condoms now being covered up is being covered up so someone pls tell us wats the diff as we would like to know?" ok our take on what you say is this. People who go bareback have low or no standards, morals what ever term you want to give it, so we wouldnt get involved knowingly with anyone who doest use condoms. | |||
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"Makes us laugh this thread coz saying that ud avoid ppl coz they go BB is just stupid ,they may go BB with others but uve a choice in it ,no condom no play simples and coz theyve gone BB with otheres dont mean that its set in stone and all they want is to go BB with everyone they meet.we sure that if yous ask them the magority would happily cover up without a second thought and when they do what more risks are you taking that uve not already taken in this game ,are u all 100% sure that every body uve ever played with has never gone BB coz unless you a mind reader theres no way you could possibly ever know, if they had gone BB in the past would they tell you ,would they feel they had to tell you ?? Its dwn to ppls choices ,if we met up with a proper sexy as feck cpl who liked to go BB we would be happy to play so long as with us they b appy 2 use condoms and if they ok with that bring it on.but what extra dangers is there in playing with a cpl who go BB but with you condoms are in place to the cpl who never play BB but always use condoms now being covered up is being covered up so someone pls tell us wats the diff as we would like to know? ok our take on what you say is this. People who go bareback have low or no standards, morals what ever term you want to give it, so we wouldnt get involved knowingly with anyone who doest use condoms." But ppl could say exactly the same bout the whole swing sceene but the question i asked was wats the diff so long as protection is used coz as long as we dont go bare back with them its all still safe swinging is it not? | |||
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" ok our take on what you say is this. People who go bareback have low or no standards, morals what ever term you want to give it, so we wouldnt get involved knowingly with anyone who doest use condoms." but its there choice..and actually you find ( or so I have found in talking to peopl) that people that go bareback often have less partners over all... Yes condoms make it a little safer.. but I take oral all the time without one..I also love cum.. so swallow, play with etc.. never had a guy wont to play safe with me orally either.. Its about your own measure of risk.. and I think those that choose to have sex bareback would find your tone like your looking down that them.. Swingers have enough problems from the vanilla world.. We should all except that some like it different.. And the thing is.. you only have someones word that they play safe with everyone... lets face it. there going to tell you that.. so I treat everyone as if they are not playing safe.. its simples then. and yes I have already said that on occassion we allow bareback but with special regular people, not everyone.. and we are aware of the risks. Katie. x | |||
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"you may think so, but we feel that if someone is prepared to go bareback with a meet off a site then they have the morals of an alley cat, so even with protection we wouldnt go there. " So how do you know that they all go safe.. your partners I mean.. yes with you.. but I am often asked to go without.. I refuse.. but wonder how many of their other conquests have agreed.. And I am quite proud to have the morales of an alley cat actually.. you seen how much fun they have.. I have watched the aristocats recently Katie. x | |||
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"'Safe sex' is a tickable option on the interest list so as a general rule we assume that if a member doesn't tick that box, they prefer to play bareback." I tend to work along this way of thinking too. However, I also find that a lot of people will practise safe sex initially without question, but after you've met them a few times will suggest or attempt bare. I can understand that if you only have one or two regular playmates (and they don't play elsewhere either) that bare would become a viable option after a time. A big element of trust is involved, but that would also come about with the time thing Let's face it, very few (if any) of us like playing with condoms - bare is sooooo much nicer for both sides. However they are a (very) necessary 'evil' of playing with others, so that's what we do. I wouldn't question the morals and judgements of those who do otherwise, though. | |||
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"if people meet on a regular basis for sex.. when do you trust them enough to bareback? after how many visits. " no idea. I know people who do it after only 3 or 4 meets - they assess the risk in their _iew of that person. Others I know have done it after meeting the same person for several months. | |||
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"if people meet on a regular basis for sex.. when do you trust them enough to bareback? after how many visits. " Not even after a gazillion meets with the same person | |||
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"if people meet on a regular basis for sex.. when do you trust them enough to bareback? after how many visits. Not even after a gazillion meets with the same person " Same here! | |||
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"if people meet on a regular basis for sex.. when do you trust them enough to bareback? after how many visits. " some consider that element of risk a kink in itself. I've had someone suggest I do their wife bareback in the past and if she'd fell pregnant so be it, no come backs.. I politely declined the offer. ..on other occasions when I've checked out what's below (like an angry bacon sandwich with suss looking bits, or a badly packed kebab)I've not needed a condom or a dental barrier (pmsl) - I've just politely declined and beaten a hasty retreat...! Wolf | |||
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"if people meet on a regular basis for sex.. when do you trust them enough to bareback? after how many visits. " Never | |||
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"'Safe sex' is a tickable option on the interest list so as a general rule we assume that if a member doesn't tick that box, they prefer to play bareback. I tend to work along this way of thinking too. However, I also find that a lot of people will practise safe sex initially without question, but after you've met them a few times will suggest or attempt bare. I can understand that if you only have one or two regular playmates (and they don't play elsewhere either) that bare would become a viable option after a time. A big element of trust is involved, but that would also come about with the time thing Let's face it, very few (if any) of us like playing with condoms - bare is sooooo much nicer for both sides. However they are a (very) necessary 'evil' of playing with others, so that's what we do. I wouldn't question the morals and judgements of those who do otherwise, though." That is a very sensible post.. And I would never judge anyones sexual ethics... As you say.. we would all prefer bareback.. and it does take a lot of trust.. but I certainly do not look down on those that do. Katie. x | |||
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"Surely you must treat all people you meet as bare backers? Just because they say they use safe sex all the time, does not mean they do." Thats exactly what I do... Unless I dont have sex at all.. it will never be safe totally. Katie. x | |||
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"Surely you must treat all people you meet as bare backers? Just because they say they use safe sex all the time, does not mean they do." Couldn't agree more! | |||
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"btw get what your saying, but we dont just consider the safe swing issue we think beyond that to the mentality or lack of someone who takes needless risks" But surley we are all taking needless risks in this game nothings a 100% safe and you can only rely on what ppl tell you in the sceene but wat they tell you and what they do are 2 intirely diff things there are 1000s ov peeps on ere that do it but dont tell so the risks are already there so the way to minamize the risks is to use condoms wi every 1 so like we said it dont make a diff so long as we all covered up | |||
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"I have seen it on couples profiles saying they only do bareback. " But at least they are letting people know.. and I bet if you check their verifications all the men they meet have safe sex ticked As I said.. treat everyone as if they bareback. Katie. x | |||
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"I have seen it on couples profiles saying they only do bareback. But at least they are letting people know.. and I bet if you check their verifications all the men they meet have safe sex ticked As I said.. treat everyone as if they bareback. Katie. x" you are so right... a couple do bareback only gang bangs and good on them if thats their thing.. prob about 40 verifications... had a look at 10 guys all said safe sex only ... and 4 were married. poor wife | |||
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"btw get what your saying, but we dont just consider the safe swing issue we think beyond that to the mentality or lack of someone who takes needless risks But surley we are all taking needless risks in this game nothings a 100% safe and you can only rely on what ppl tell you in the sceene but wat they tell you and what they do are 2 intirely diff things there are 1000s ov peeps on ere that do it but dont tell so the risks are already there so the way to minamize the risks is to use condoms wi every 1 so like we said it dont make a diff so long as we all covered up " in your eyes | |||
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"btw get what your saying, but we dont just consider the safe swing issue we think beyond that to the mentality or lack of someone who takes needless risks But surley we are all taking needless risks in this game nothings a 100% safe and you can only rely on what ppl tell you in the sceene but wat they tell you and what they do are 2 intirely diff things there are 1000s ov peeps on ere that do it but dont tell so the risks are already there so the way to minamize the risks is to use condoms wi every 1 so like we said it dont make a diff so long as we all covered up in your eyes" No not in our eyes but as was stated earlier ,shouldent we all be treating every new meet as if it was bare back ,wich is very very true | |||
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"No not in our eyes but as was stated earlier ,shouldent we all be treating every new meet as if it was bare back ,wich is very very true Dont make any odds to us what others treat new meets as, we always, always use condoms, and if we know or find out prior to the meet that the person or people we are meeting doesnt, then there is no meet. full stop end of. our choice and we stick by our earlier statement re the mentality of bare backers. shoot them all hey no prob" Guys thats a tad harsh do you not think???But if you'd met a cpl a few times and realy got on as freinds and 1 time they said that they had played BB on a few previous meets how would you react then ????? | |||
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"No not in our eyes but as was stated earlier ,shouldent we all be treating every new meet as if it was bare back ,wich is very very true Dont make any odds to us what others treat new meets as, we always, always use condoms, and if we know or find out prior to the meet that the person or people we are meeting doesnt, then there is no meet. full stop end of. our choice and we stick by our earlier statement re the mentality of bare backers. shoot them all hey no prob" Thats an exremely piss poor attitude to take soz we think ,shoot them all?????? nw guys wtf like inni? | |||
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"No not in our eyes but as was stated earlier ,shouldent we all be treating every new meet as if it was bare back ,wich is very very true Dont make any odds to us what others treat new meets as, we always, always use condoms, and if we know or find out prior to the meet that the person or people we are meeting doesnt, then there is no meet. full stop end of. our choice and we stick by our earlier statement re the mentality of bare backers. shoot them all hey no prob Thats an exremely piss poor attitude to take soz we think ,shoot them all?????? nw guys wtf like inni? " dont like the attitude, dont worry about it we dont meet bare backers, or people under 35 so you guys are well safe. just for the record we talk straight dont like it dont reply | |||
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"not be happy as we try and suss these things out before hand, and not only the fact that they had done the bare back thing, the fact that they would have lied to us. end of friendship. you seem to be going on about it a lot, obviously your thing, well good luck with it and i hope all the shit you catch is cureable" Wooooooooooooo slow down and wind your neck's in guys al we were saying is that we have no probs in playing with cpls who go BB so long as they cover up for us ,now how come youve made the assumtion that its our thing wen all we were doing is stating that weve not a prob with ppl doing it now pls can u let us kno wat your prob is as we think your being very nasty to bbkrs tbh | |||
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"not be happy as we try and suss these things out before hand, and not only the fact that they had done the bare back thing, the fact that they would have lied to us. end of friendship. you seem to be going on about it a lot, obviously your thing, well good luck with it and i hope all the shit you catch is cureable Wooooooooooooo slow down and wind your neck's in guys al we were saying is that we have no probs in playing with cpls who go BB so long as they cover up for us ,now how come youve made the assumtion that its our thing wen all we were doing is stating that weve not a prob with ppl doing it now pls can u let us kno wat your prob is as we think your being very nasty to bbkrs tbh " and your thoughts bother us because ?? we all make our own choices and we stick by ours as no doubt everyone else does, and we will always stick our necks out on certain subjects, this being one of them so get used to it | |||
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"you seem to be going on about it a lot, obviously your thing, well good luck with it and i hope all the shit you catch is cureable" Most things are cureable.... and I do regular multi guy playtimes.. and yes with the odd person.. We weigh up our risks.. and if we felt that it was okay then we would go BB. I think those that choose to go BB as a couple are normally very clued up on their sexual health.. I spoke to a couple recently that because they always use condoms thought they had no need to be tested.. That to me is more scary than someone who may occassionally bb. However, I only started being careful sexually once I started swinging.. before that I wasnt.. Yes I as lucky... but the up side is most things are curable... although some things sadly arent.. Like attitudes. Katie. x | |||
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"Bareback for people that dont give a shit about their health and health of others....do they carry a recnt health certificate with them of their recent STD and AIDS check to prove they dont have any I DONT THINK SO....mental if you play bareback......" Fully agree x | |||
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"All we are saying is tha if you meet a cpl who play BB but are happy enough to cover up if we play with them then weve not a problem with coz what they do with others is up to them coz surley we are taking the same precautions and playing as safe as the next swinger?? " point taken, that is your choice as stated before we dont have the same opinion, dont matter how many times you guys or us state our opinions, they are just that not everyone feels the same. without wishingto offend anyone in our opinion anyone who doesnt use protection is not worth the risk. end of our comments on the subject. | |||
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".PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHLDNT THROW STONES..I ACTUALLY DNT CARE WHAT PEOPLE DO IN THIS WORLD..ITS THEIR LIFE NOT MINE..ITS EVRYONES OWN CHOICE.AND NO BODY HAS THE RIGHT TO LOOK DOWN ON ANYONE .. DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY. IT WNT HARM TO SAY THOU.YOU DNT LIKE ..DNT GO THERE SIMPLE ! " Think your caps lock is stuck. | |||
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"All we are saying is tha if you meet a cpl who play BB but are happy enough to cover up if we play with them then weve not a problem with coz what they do with others is up to them coz surley we are taking the same precautions and playing as safe as the next swinger?? point taken, that is your choice as stated before we dont have the same opinion, dont matter how many times you guys or us state our opinions, they are just that not everyone feels the same. without wishingto offend anyone in our opinion anyone who doesnt use protection is not worth the risk. end of our comments on the subject." I find this hilarious cos at the end of the day none of us know what others are doing behind closed doors, all we can do is protect ourselves. There;s nothing wrong with protecting your health but the judgment could do with toning down a little. | |||
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"Personally I don't play bb..even if I know the person.... Take the _iew that hey could be play ing bb with others. I always cover up...does it stop the fun...no....for me I am a bit less worried.....so i am fine.., " good man | |||
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"I'm not interested in bareback, but I'd really like to see it as one of the options in "interests". Why? Because it would mean I could easily see which people I didn't want to contact!" dont contact people who havnt selected safe sex | |||
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"I'm not interested in bareback, but I'd really like to see it as one of the options in "interests". Why? Because it would mean I could easily see which people I didn't want to contact!" there is...its called 'safe sex'! | |||
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"I'm not interested in bareback, but I'd really like to see it as one of the options in "interests". Why? Because it would mean I could easily see which people I didn't want to contact! dont contact people who havnt selected safe sex " the problem with that is that there is a lady I talk to on here..she only does creampie gangbangs.. ONLY no ifs or buts... but her last party 90% said safesex and even on their profile said SAFE SEX a must.. SO that doesnt work. Katie, with her Masters consent. | |||
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"I'm not interested in bareback, but I'd really like to see it as one of the options in "interests". Why? Because it would mean I could easily see which people I didn't want to contact! dont contact people who havnt selected safe sex the problem with that is that there is a lady I talk to on here..she only does creampie gangbangs.. ONLY no ifs or buts... but her last party 90% said safesex and even on their profile said SAFE SEX a must.. SO that doesnt work. Katie, with her Masters consent." not it does not, but you can only take peoples word for what they do, lots of people who say they only practice safe sex dont, so you have to treat everyone like they go bare back at some point that way you cant go wrong Theres always going to be risks in this game, condoms come off, people lie etc so all you can do is treat everyone the same, protect yourself the best you feel you can and hope | |||
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"I'm not interested in bareback, but I'd really like to see it as one of the options in "interests". Why? Because it would mean I could easily see which people I didn't want to contact! dont contact people who havnt selected safe sex the problem with that is that there is a lady I talk to on here..she only does creampie gangbangs.. ONLY no ifs or buts... but her last party 90% said safesex and even on their profile said SAFE SEX a must.. SO that doesnt work. Katie, with her Masters consent. not it does not, but you can only take peoples word for what they do, lots of people who say they only practice safe sex dont, so you have to treat everyone like they go bare back at some point that way you cant go wrong Theres always going to be risks in this game, condoms come off, people lie etc so all you can do is treat everyone the same, protect yourself the best you feel you can and hope " +1 exactly ,bang on the button | |||
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"'Safe sex' is a tickable option on the interest list so as a general rule we assume that if a member doesn't tick that box, they prefer to play bareback." But that's not foolproof either. tick one thing, want another. | |||
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"just a comment on folks that say safe sex in their interests ,,, just a quick scan of pix shows many not practising safe sex ,, or maybe the pix aint of them ,, also more than a smattering of anal sex with no protection ,,, ,, wonder if others have noticed ? " Maybe the pics on the couples profiles are just those of the couple themselves who do not use condoms with a marriage? Mistress x | |||
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"just a comment on folks that say safe sex in their interests ,,, just a quick scan of pix shows many not practising safe sex ,, or maybe the pix aint of them ,, also more than a smattering of anal sex with no protection ,,, ,, wonder if others have noticed ? Maybe the pics on the couples profiles are just those of the couple themselves who do not use condoms with a marriage? Mistress x" hmmm who knows... Each to their own. protect yourself accordingly or build up trust. Up to you. Not going to demonise bareback. Most of us engage in unprotected oral. Herpes anyone? | |||
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"just a comment on folks that say safe sex in their interests ,,, just a quick scan of pix shows many not practising safe sex ,, or maybe the pix aint of them ,, also more than a smattering of anal sex with no protection ,,, ,, wonder if others have noticed ? Maybe the pics on the couples profiles are just those of the couple themselves who do not use condoms with a marriage? Mistress x" maybe ,, but have seen at least two single profiles were the guy is totally unprotected ( and so is the lady ) and all who have sex with them afterwards ,, its a very risky game ,, the point being ,, please please please , practice what you preach ,,, for all our sakes | |||
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" not it does not, but you can only take peoples word for what they do, lots of people who say they only practice safe sex dont, so you have to treat everyone like they go bare back at some point that way you cant go wrong Theres always going to be risks in this game, condoms come off, people lie etc so all you can do is treat everyone the same, protect yourself the best you feel you can and hope " I am always honest.. I think most of my posts have shown that with who Master and I deem the right person we will go without.. but it has taken us over a year to find someone we will.. Everyone else its safe sex.. and I count everyone as having had the whole site without protection.. but then apart from the one guy.. all my other playtimes are gangbangs. Katie, with her Masters consent. | |||
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"What I find rather ironic with this subject is the attitude... "I absolutely will not have sex with that person without a condom" and then... on with the condom you have sex with them!!! It's akin to saying, 'It's ok to drive while I'm pissed because I ALWAYS wear my seat belt' What about the safe-sex only types who knowingly play with people cheating on a partner? Where are the quality morals there? Would it be considered reasonable for me or anyone to say 'Any one who doesn't conduct their life to the same standards as me is an irresponsible moron with the morals of an alley cat'? " I'm glad you brought this up! I think people should drop the "holier than thou" act because it doesn't fit the lifstyle. Face it. We're all going to Hell! | |||
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"btw get what your saying, but we dont just consider the safe swing issue we think beyond that to the mentality or lack of someone who takes needless risks" if you believe your safe with a condom ,your deluded 4.000 per million condoms produced by any manufacturer can be faulty without product recall, you are SAFER but not safe ,condoms provide no protection againt the spread of HPV.Its all about your particular risk level as to what you allow on or in your body and the only safe sex is abstinence The "morals of an alley cat" is a bit strong and the sort of thing people who do not swing level at all swingers all the while . I advocate the use of condoms but believe in free choice for individuals its down to your personal assessment of acceptable risk and as the op said maybe a bareback or natural button would be useful . | |||
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"This topic is flogged to death EVERY week; search bareback if you think I exaggerate! There are people that bareback and have it on their profile. If you were to tell your friends you met strangers for sex they'd be aghast as it's promiscuous! I'm of the _iew where I leave adults alone to make up their own minds in how they want to play. You're naïve if you believe if bareback was an option it would be ticked! Bi men have straight on their profile, married men are single etc. Some people are here to enjoy the experience how they want, even if it means fewer meets and some will lie through their teeth to maximise their meets!" Add to that single guys pretending to be women. | |||
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