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"C has now given herself 100% as a collared owned sub, we are now looking for ideas for her use She will do anything she is told to do by her master N (only safe sex) so we are looking for very kinky dirty ideas for her please give us your ideas and lets have fun, with her as this is what she wants and will confirm it to prospective meets before we start special looking for BDSM , outdoor locations, warehouses and barns for tieing up and being left" Poor doggie Won't she get lonely? | |||
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"C has now given herself 100% as a collared owned sub, we are now looking for ideas for her use She will do anything she is told to do by her master N (only safe sex) so we are looking for very kinky dirty ideas for her please give us your ideas and lets have fun, with her as this is what she wants and will confirm it to prospective meets before we start special looking for BDSM , outdoor locations, warehouses and barns for tieing up and being left Poor doggie Won't she get lonely? " all difference should be respected.. not sure if the above answer does that. | |||
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"C has now given herself 100% as a collared owned sub, we are now looking for ideas for her use She will do anything she is told to do by her master N (only safe sex) so we are looking for very kinky dirty ideas for her please give us your ideas and lets have fun, with her as this is what she wants and will confirm it to prospective meets before we start special looking for BDSM , outdoor locations, warehouses and barns for tieing up and being left Poor doggie Won't she get lonely? all difference should be respected.. not sure if the above answer does that. " I agree, that,s a bit of a put down and is unfair. | |||
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"C has now given herself 100% as a collared owned sub, we are now looking for ideas for her use She will do anything she is told to do by her master N (only safe sex) so we are looking for very kinky dirty ideas for her please give us your ideas and lets have fun, with her as this is what she wants and will confirm it to prospective meets before we start special looking for BDSM , outdoor locations, warehouses and barns for tieing up and being left Poor doggie Won't she get lonely? all difference should be respected.. not sure if the above answer does that. I agree, that,s a bit of a put down and is unfair." It's goddamn amazing how you two pick an entire world _iew out of six words. I understand dom/sub relationships, having had one before, but there's a gulf between role-playing and 24 hr psychological subbing (can't know the OPs entire lifestyle, but a niche of BDSM people do this), because I've seen it can stop being a role and become the real thing which is horribly lonely for the poor subbie. You can bang on about 'freedom' all you want, this isn't a subjective thing, this can be a real problem and I call you an inexperienced fool if you don't recognize it. Where, exactly, is the safe word, if you're locked into a car boot or tied up in a barn in the middle of nowhere? What safeguards or failsafes draw a line between BDSM and simple abuse, between submission and plain maltreatment? To me, operating without safe words or a fail safe is like operating without a condom. In the real world, people get hurt and relationships break. | |||
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"C has now given herself 100% as a collared owned sub, we are now looking for ideas for her use She will do anything she is told to do by her master N (only safe sex) so we are looking for very kinky dirty ideas for her please give us your ideas and lets have fun, with her as this is what she wants and will confirm it to prospective meets before we start special looking for BDSM , outdoor locations, warehouses and barns for tieing up and being left Poor doggie Won't she get lonely? all difference should be respected.. not sure if the above answer does that. I agree, that,s a bit of a put down and is unfair. It's goddamn amazing how you two pick an entire world _iew out of six words. I understand dom/sub relationships, having had one before, but there's a gulf between role-playing and 24 hr psychological subbing (can't know the OPs entire lifestyle, but a niche of BDSM people do this), because I've seen it can stop being a role and become the real thing which is horribly lonely for the poor subbie. You can bang on about 'freedom' all you want, this isn't a subjective thing, this can be a real problem and I call you an inexperienced fool if you don't recognize it. Where, exactly, is the safe word, if you're locked into a car boot or tied up in a barn in the middle of nowhere? What safeguards or failsafes draw a line between BDSM and simple abuse, between submission and plain maltreatment? To me, operating without safe words or a fail safe is like operating without a condom. In the real world, people get hurt and relationships break." i dont get your reply!! they were commenting on whther you knew anything about BDSM etc, they were commenting on your use of the term poor doggy (or so i believe ) | |||
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" To me, operating without safe words or a fail safe is like operating without a condom. In the real world, people get hurt and relationships break." I would hazzard a guess that this would all be discussed when they "confirm" things with people they intend to meet! | |||
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"C has now given herself 100% as a collared owned sub, we are now looking for ideas for her use She will do anything she is told to do by her master N (only safe sex) so we are looking for very kinky dirty ideas for her please give us your ideas and lets have fun, with her as this is what she wants and will confirm it to prospective meets before we start special looking for BDSM , outdoor locations, warehouses and barns for tieing up and being left Poor doggie Won't she get lonely? all difference should be respected.. not sure if the above answer does that. I agree, that,s a bit of a put down and is unfair. It's goddamn amazing how you two pick an entire world _iew out of six words. I understand dom/sub relationships, having had one before, but there's a gulf between role-playing and 24 hr psychological subbing (can't know the OPs entire lifestyle, but a niche of BDSM people do this), because I've seen it can stop being a role and become the real thing which is horribly lonely for the poor subbie. You can bang on about 'freedom' all you want, this isn't a subjective thing, this can be a real problem and I call you an inexperienced fool if you don't recognize it. Where, exactly, is the safe word, if you're locked into a car boot or tied up in a barn in the middle of nowhere? What safeguards or failsafes draw a line between BDSM and simple abuse, between submission and plain maltreatment? To me, operating without safe words or a fail safe is like operating without a condom. In the real world, people get hurt and relationships break." Reread.. NOT SURE if the above does that. I also took the time to write to you and said 'no offence, you may get a reaction to a comment like that..' Happy posting.. | |||
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"C has now given herself 100% as a collared owned sub, we are now looking for ideas for her use She will do anything she is told to do by her master N (only safe sex) so we are looking for very kinky dirty ideas for her please give us your ideas and lets have fun, with her as this is what she wants and will confirm it to prospective meets before we start special looking for BDSM , outdoor locations, warehouses and barns for tieing up and being left" Mmmm, as her Master don't you think you should be doing this.BDSM involves deep levels of trust and knowledge.To push your sub into those areas that she might have previously refused to go is something only you can do.i could never imagine Sir asking for,or needing suggestions! You know your sub best...as Sir once said he owns my mind.No one else can replace the intimate knowledge you should have if you have collared her. That said the barn idea is quite common,and v hot,the difficulty is as always not scaring the nillas.i hope a kinky farmer gets in touch...pass on his details lol As for the doggie comment, i am used to ppl who don't know me assuming because i am sub i am a doormat,the day Sir collars me will be the third proudest of my life(sorry Sir,giving birth tops it,it hurt more )i am no ones dog...but i can bite. | |||
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" You can bang on about 'freedom' all you want, this isn't a subjective thing, this can be a real problem and I call you an inexperienced fool if you don't recognize it. Where, exactly, is the safe word, if you're locked into a car boot or tied up in a barn in the middle of nowhere? What safeguards or failsafes draw a line between BDSM and simple abuse, between submission and plain maltreatment? To me, operating without safe words or a fail safe is like operating without a condom. In the real world, people get hurt and relationships break." Safe words dont stop that,the difference,informed consent and trust. | |||
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" you can bang on about 'freedom' all you want, this isn't a subjective thing, this can be a real problem and I call you an inexperienced fool if you don't recognize it. Where, exactly, is the safe word, if you're locked into a car boot or tied up in a barn in the middle of nowhere? What safeguards or failsafes draw a line between BDSM and simple abuse, between submission and plain maltreatment? To me, operating without safe words or a fail safe is like operating without a condom. In the real world, people get hurt and relationships break." Okay... did you really expect not to get jumped on.... I rarely get a bit annoyed at comments as normally put it down to ignorance... but you state understanding.. so fail to see why you would not expect your comment to be taken so badly.. And those of us that choose to trust our masters so completely that we give up our safewords do so because of the complete bond and trust... for me a safeword is only used during sex with others... and we do not partake in bdsm with others... I do not need one with my master. I do also agree that there is much room for abuse to be hidden within bdsm but a slave chooses to give her control to another... And its something a lot won't understand. To the op... good luck.. and I'm sure you will have your slave's safety and well being at the top of your list. Katie. X | |||
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"C has now given herself 100% as a collared owned sub, we are now looking for ideas for her use She will do anything she is told to do by her master N (only safe sex) so we are looking for very kinky dirty ideas for her please give us your ideas and lets have fun, with her as this is what she wants and will confirm it to prospective meets before we start special looking for BDSM , outdoor locations, warehouses and barns for tieing up and being left Poor doggie Won't she get lonely? all difference should be respected.. not sure if the above answer does that. I agree, that,s a bit of a put down and is unfair. It's goddamn amazing how you two pick an entire world _iew out of six words. I understand dom/sub relationships, having had one before, but there's a gulf between role-playing and 24 hr psychological subbing (can't know the OPs entire lifestyle, but a niche of BDSM people do this), because I've seen it can stop being a role and become the real thing which is horribly lonely for the poor subbie. You can bang on about 'freedom' all you want, this isn't a subjective thing, this can be a real problem and I call you an inexperienced fool if you don't recognize it. Where, exactly, is the safe word, if you're locked into a car boot or tied up in a barn in the middle of nowhere? What safeguards or failsafes draw a line between BDSM and simple abuse, between submission and plain maltreatment? To me, operating without safe words or a fail safe is like operating without a condom. In the real world, people get hurt and relationships break." Did I miss the bit where you got elected as the only voice qualified to speak on BDSM issues? The OP put a post up - it deserved a little bit of respect, not a put down and then your spin on what constitutes good or bad BDSM. Incidentally, and I know this is controversial, what use is a safe word exactly? | |||
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" you can bang on about 'freedom' all you want, this isn't a subjective thing, this can be a real problem and I call you an inexperienced fool if you don't recognize it. Where, exactly, is the safe word, if you're locked into a car boot or tied up in a barn in the middle of nowhere? What safeguards or failsafes draw a line between BDSM and simple abuse, between submission and plain maltreatment? To me, operating without safe words or a fail safe is like operating without a condom. In the real world, people get hurt and relationships break. Okay... did you really expect not to get jumped on.... I rarely get a bit annoyed at comments as normally put it down to ignorance... but you state understanding.. so fail to see why you would not expect your comment to be taken so badly.. And those of us that choose to trust our masters so completely that we give up our safewords do so because of the complete bond and trust... for me a safeword is only used during sex with others... and we do not partake in bdsm with others... I do not need one with my master. I do also agree that there is much room for abuse to be hidden within bdsm but a slave chooses to give her control to another... And its something a lot won't understand. To the op... good luck.. and I'm sure you will have your slave's safety and well being at the top of your list. Katie. X " Damn - should have read the whole thread before diving in as Katie said it better and more clearly than me... I may have to resign from the Grand Order of Naturally Assertive Doms for admitting a sub said something better than me of course... | |||
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" you can bang on about 'freedom' all you want, this isn't a subjective thing, this can be a real problem and I call you an inexperienced fool if you don't recognize it. Where, exactly, is the safe word, if you're locked into a car boot or tied up in a barn in the middle of nowhere? What safeguards or failsafes draw a line between BDSM and simple abuse, between submission and plain maltreatment? To me, operating without safe words or a fail safe is like operating without a condom. In the real world, people get hurt and relationships break. Okay... did you really expect not to get jumped on.... I rarely get a bit annoyed at comments as normally put it down to ignorance... but you state understanding.. so fail to see why you would not expect your comment to be taken so badly.. And those of us that choose to trust our masters so completely that we give up our safewords do so because of the complete bond and trust... for me a safeword is only used during sex with others... and we do not partake in bdsm with others... I do not need one with my master. I do also agree that there is much room for abuse to be hidden within bdsm but a slave chooses to give her control to another... And its something a lot won't understand. To the op... good luck.. and I'm sure you will have your slave's safety and well being at the top of your list. Katie. X Damn - should have read the whole thread before diving in as Katie said it better and more clearly than me... I may have to resign from the Grand Order of Naturally Assertive Doms for admitting a sub said something better than me of course... " But did you see the bit where i said i found the idea quite horny? | |||
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"I find it strange asking for ideas. You have to find what works for you. As a Domme it took time to find what works for me: I doubt even if I'd asked, if anyone would have come up with what floats my boat! " My thoughts exactly. Mistress x | |||
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"I would suggest this matter would be better discussed on a BDSM forum rather than a Swingers forum." Yes and no.. you may get some sexual ideas that you wouldnt get on the bdsm forums.. and some find the bdsm forums a little intimadating. Katie. x | |||
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"I would suggest this matter would be better discussed on a BDSM forum rather than a Swingers forum." Why? Cannot you be into BDSM and a swinger? and Since ppl discuss what to have for breakfast ,this is at least about sex! | |||
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" looking for BDSM , outdoor locations, warehouses and barns for tieing up and being left" I am looking at being an RSPCA Officer in a whole new different light now ! | |||
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"I would suggest this matter would be better discussed on a BDSM forum rather than a Swingers forum." I am sure there are lots of people who are into BDSM who can give advice / hints on here too | |||
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"I would suggest this matter would be better discussed on a BDSM forum rather than a Swingers forum. I am sure there are lots of people who are into BDSM who can give advice / hints on here too " i want the address of the barn! | |||
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"I would suggest this matter would be better discussed on a BDSM forum rather than a Swingers forum. I am sure there are lots of people who are into BDSM who can give advice / hints on here too i want the address of the barn! " Me too.. maybe they will do a bogof offer lol | |||
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"I would suggest this matter would be better discussed on a BDSM forum rather than a Swingers forum. I am sure there are lots of people who are into BDSM who can give advice / hints on here too i want the address of the barn! Me too.. maybe they will do a bogof offer lol " Three naked subs tied together in an empty barn.Back to back,skin against skin.Trembling they hear a car engine,the door opens,and the men enter... Yup we need the address! | |||
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"I would suggest this matter would be better discussed on a BDSM forum rather than a Swingers forum. I am sure there are lots of people who are into BDSM who can give advice / hints on here too i want the address of the barn! Me too.. maybe they will do a bogof offer lol Three naked subs tied together in an empty barn.Back to back,skin against skin.Trembling they hear a car engine,the door opens,and the men enter... Yup we need the address! " It's that car engine fetish again isn't it? | |||
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"I would suggest this matter would be better discussed on a BDSM forum rather than a Swingers forum. I am sure there are lots of people who are into BDSM who can give advice / hints on here too i want the address of the barn! Me too.. maybe they will do a bogof offer lol Three naked subs tied together in an empty barn.Back to back,skin against skin.Trembling they hear a car engine,the door opens,and the men enter... Yup we need the address! It's that car engine fetish again isn't it?" I'd like a nice car engine noise... v6, flat 4, v10 or something like that lol Katie | |||
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"I would suggest this matter would be better discussed on a BDSM forum rather than a Swingers forum. I am sure there are lots of people who are into BDSM who can give advice / hints on here too i want the address of the barn! Me too.. maybe they will do a bogof offer lol Three naked subs tied together in an empty barn.Back to back,skin against skin.Trembling they hear a car engine,the door opens,and the men enter... Yup we need the address! It's that car engine fetish again isn't it?" well as i have a Pavlovian response to one... although motorbikes work too! | |||
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