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"We're keen to make a female swinging friend but are unsure of how best to go about it. Would you prefer us to bump into you at a club? Or do you want us to be really vanilla first and meet you for a coffee to put you at ease about us and our relationship? Or would you prefer something more enticing and sexy like a flirty date out with us or maybe even just with Mr? Or do you want us to be more bold and invite you around tonight for some play? Feel free to pm us if you'd rather not share your views in public. We're really just trying to gauge what women want/expect/hope from us couples in the way of the most enticing approach " When I did meet couples, I met them for a coffee; sometimes even twice. I wanted to gauge that they were both interested and this wasn't just his fantasy which she was being dragged into The topics of conversation started with everything but sex and swingers clubs. Anything from the tube strike to the rubbish coffee we were having ![]() | |||
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"Couples can be complicated. We prefer meeting just guys. " That's so true ! But lately I been so fortunate to meet really nice people! I meet them in the club but we building up friendship also! Dinner,coffee and shopping! I am glad I didn't give up x | |||
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"I prefer a social first. So many couples have issues between them, i.e. One only swinging to please the other, jealousy issues, lots of rules such as no kissing, no penetrative, so it's best to sort this out before fun begins x" That's one think we've always said to newbie couples that you should both be in swinging because you want to be not doing to please the other. We've seen a few fallouts in clubs over the years when one person from a couple has got jealous. As a couple we both love it we both like playing a both really enjoy seeing the other play and never understand why people don't kiss it's the thing that gets the play going but there happily do oral. Also if one of us isn't happy or comfortable we would take one for the team so to speak. To use it's all about everyone who is involved being comfortable and having fun wether it's with a single or a couple. | |||
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"Thanks so much for the feedback so far ![]() ![]() It sounds like you're not looking to play as a three from this post, so I would suggest that you get singles profiles and meet people that way. I would not accept an approach from a couple if only the woman was interested - I would ask them to message me from their singles profile. | |||
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"I prefer a social first. So many couples have issues between them, i.e. One only swinging to please the other, jealousy issues, lots of rules such as no kissing, no penetrative, so it's best to sort this out before fun begins x That's one think we've always said to newbie couples that you should both be in swinging because you want to be not doing to please the other. We've seen a few fallouts in clubs over the years when one person from a couple has got jealous. As a couple we both love it we both like playing a both really enjoy seeing the other play and never understand why people don't kiss it's the thing that gets the play going but there happily do oral. Also if one of us isn't happy or comfortable we would take one for the team so to speak. To use it's all about everyone who is involved being comfortable and having fun wether it's with a single or a couple. " Shame more couples didn't have your attitude. | |||
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"I would not accept an approach from a couple if only the woman was interested - I would ask them to message me from their singles profile." Great. That's clarified that. I had wondered if Mrs leading would simply be the most disarming approach. No other reason. The overwhelming response is simply to be straightforward, friendly, vanilla, and equally interested... we can definitely do that ![]() | |||
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"Thanks so much for the feedback so far ![]() ![]() Couples can be a bloody mind-field. Alot have issues and bringing someone else into the mix often causes conflict, especially as the friendships develops. Then the single finds they are piggy in the middle, being used as a counsellor for a failing relationship. It's a horrible, fucked up position to be in so my advice to any singles going down the couple route would be don't! If you do, proceed with caution as usually the single is blamed for any issues that were there long before you arrived. | |||
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"Couples can be a bloody mind-field. Alot have issues and bringing someone else into the mix often causes conflict, especially as the friendships develops. Then the single finds they are piggy in the middle, being used as a counsellor for a failing relationship. It's a horrible, fucked up position to be in so my advice to any singles going down the couple route would be don't! If you do, proceed with caution as usually the single is blamed for any issues that were there long before you arrived." Whilst we totally respect you've had a bad experience, warning others to avoid couples like the plague seems a little unfair. There are some, like us, who genuinely aren't messed up and are seeking female friends for all the right reasons. The trouble is that women who have a bad experience with a couple are unlikely to ever try it again. As such, they may never figure out whether they were just unlucky or if most couples are a nightmare. Rather than warn others from ever trying it we'd suggest they just be a little bit more cautious and savvy about picking up the signs that a couple aren't really in the right place to play with. Thanks for your input though ![]() | |||
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"Couples can be a bloody mind-field. Alot have issues and bringing someone else into the mix often causes conflict, especially as the friendships develops. Then the single finds they are piggy in the middle, being used as a counsellor for a failing relationship. It's a horrible, fucked up position to be in so my advice to any singles going down the couple route would be don't! If you do, proceed with caution as usually the single is blamed for any issues that were there long before you arrived. Whilst we totally respect you've had a bad experience, warning others to avoid couples like the plague seems a little unfair. There are some, like us, who genuinely aren't messed up and are seeking female friends for all the right reasons. The trouble is that women who have a bad experience with a couple are unlikely to ever try it again. As such, they may never figure out whether they were just unlucky or if most couples are a nightmare. Rather than warn others from ever trying it we'd suggest they just be a little bit more cautious and savvy about picking up the signs that a couple aren't really in the right place to play with. Thanks for your input though ![]() I was thinking the same, if the norm of humanity was for singles to play with couples you'd probably shrugg it off & try again as no doubt you would do after an iffy single guy meet. All I see from "Tried it once or twice, nightmare" is bad choices of who, not a bad choice of idea & this applies whether meeting males, females, TV/TS/CD or couples. Not having a go, but it does seem to be the couples version of the single guys "Why can't I get a meet?" ;-) S | |||
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"Couples can be a bloody mind-field. Alot have issues and bringing someone else into the mix often causes conflict, especially as the friendships develops. Then the single finds they are piggy in the middle, being used as a counsellor for a failing relationship. It's a horrible, fucked up position to be in so my advice to any singles going down the couple route would be don't! If you do, proceed with caution as usually the single is blamed for any issues that were there long before you arrived. Whilst we totally respect you've had a bad experience, warning others to avoid couples like the plague seems a little unfair. There are some, like us, who genuinely aren't messed up and are seeking female friends for all the right reasons. The trouble is that women who have a bad experience with a couple are unlikely to ever try it again. As such, they may never figure out whether they were just unlucky or if most couples are a nightmare. Rather than warn others from ever trying it we'd suggest they just be a little bit more cautious and savvy about picking up the signs that a couple aren't really in the right place to play with. Thanks for your input though ![]() Yes my advice is based on experience, however I have alot of experience with couples over a long period of time, yes look out for the warning signs, however alot of couples are hell bend on displaying all the right signs to get that elusive female. My advice still stands for single fems to not get involved with the relationship side. Yes there maybe genuine couples out there but I would still advice caution as they will have their own agenda at heart and not the single fems interests. | |||
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"Couples can be a bloody mind-field. Alot have issues and bringing someone else into the mix often causes conflict, especially as the friendships develops. Then the single finds they are piggy in the middle, being used as a counsellor for a failing relationship. It's a horrible, fucked up position to be in so my advice to any singles going down the couple route would be don't! If you do, proceed with caution as usually the single is blamed for any issues that were there long before you arrived. Whilst we totally respect you've had a bad experience, warning others to avoid couples like the plague seems a little unfair. There are some, like us, who genuinely aren't messed up and are seeking female friends for all the right reasons. The trouble is that women who have a bad experience with a couple are unlikely to ever try it again. As such, they may never figure out whether they were just unlucky or if most couples are a nightmare. Rather than warn others from ever trying it we'd suggest they just be a little bit more cautious and savvy about picking up the signs that a couple aren't really in the right place to play with. Thanks for your input though ![]() I have had the same experiences as you, another one I found was a the amount of guys in couples who try to get you to meet them alone behind their wife's back, it's put me in many a difficult situation when the wife's asked if I want to meet again then asked why and have they done something wrong when I say no, I mean what do you so "I don't what to meet you again because your husband's a cheating twat and I want no part in it" who's she going to be live me or him? That's why now I never seek out couple's if I get to know one well then maybe | |||
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"Couples can be a bloody mind-field. Alot have issues and bringing someone else into the mix often causes conflict, especially as the friendships develops. Then the single finds they are piggy in the middle, being used as a counsellor for a failing relationship. It's a horrible, fucked up position to be in so my advice to any singles going down the couple route would be don't! If you do, proceed with caution as usually the single is blamed for any issues that were there long before you arrived. Whilst we totally respect you've had a bad experience, warning others to avoid couples like the plague seems a little unfair. There are some, like us, who genuinely aren't messed up and are seeking female friends for all the right reasons. The trouble is that women who have a bad experience with a couple are unlikely to ever try it again. As such, they may never figure out whether they were just unlucky or if most couples are a nightmare. Rather than warn others from ever trying it we'd suggest they just be a little bit more cautious and savvy about picking up the signs that a couple aren't really in the right place to play with. Thanks for your input though ![]() Yes I've had that in the past as well, not restricted to just the males. Maybe good advice for couples to make sure their relationships are 150% strong and they are honest and open about what they are hoping to get out of the experience. | |||
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"I prefer a social first. So many couples have issues between them, i.e. One only swinging to please the other, jealousy issues, lots of rules such as no kissing, no penetrative, so it's best to sort this out before fun begins x That's one think we've always said to newbie couples that you should both be in swinging because you want to be not doing to please the other. We've seen a few fallouts in clubs over the years when one person from a couple has got jealous. As a couple we both love it we both like playing a both really enjoy seeing the other play and never understand why people don't kiss it's the thing that gets the play going but there happily do oral. Also if one of us isn't happy or comfortable we would take one for the team so to speak. To use it's all about everyone who is involved being comfortable and having fun wether it's with a single or a couple. " We are the same! We do this together and all parties have to be happy and we never take one for the team | |||
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"We're keen to make a female swinging friend but are unsure of how best to go about it. Would you prefer us to bump into you at a club? Or do you want us to be really vanilla first and meet you for a coffee to put you at ease about us and our relationship? Or would you prefer something more enticing and sexy like a flirty date out with us or maybe even just with Mr? Or do you want us to be more bold and invite you around tonight for some play? Feel free to pm us if you'd rather not share your views in public. We're really just trying to gauge what women want/expect/hope from us couples in the way of the most enticing approach " I want a couple to approach me on their hands and knees | |||
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"We're keen to make a female swinging friend but are unsure of how best to go about it. Would you prefer us to bump into you at a club? Or do you want us to be really vanilla first and meet you for a coffee to put you at ease about us and our relationship? Or would you prefer something more enticing and sexy like a flirty date out with us or maybe even just with Mr? Or do you want us to be more bold and invite you around tonight for some play? Feel free to pm us if you'd rather not share your views in public. We're really just trying to gauge what women want/expect/hope from us couples in the way of the most enticing approach I want a couple to approach me on their hands and knees " You will probably get some on fab that would too, my money is on none of them being on this thread though ![]() | |||
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"Can the ladies that have the problems say with hand on heart that they were 100% attracted to both parties equally and that play was also split equally and that they didn't focus more on one partner more than the other? Only asking as i'm finding it difficult to comprehend that two long termers on Fab can pick duffuns so easily that is all.. S" Well of course it's the woman's fault ![]() | |||
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"Jesus, how many single ladies have commented on couples having issues on this thread? Don't tar us all with the same brush please! As far as we are concerned a three way FFM meet is 3 people meeting up to play on an equal footing, we don't put a single lady on a pedestal or conversely use them to fulfil a fantasy our ours...." Absolutely spot on , well said . We have had more ffm meets than we care to remember , and every one has been equally as enjoyable for all three of us . But , and here's the thing , we don't actively seek this kind of meet any more than an Mmf , a group play or a tv . There's not a chance we will jump through hoops for the so called elusive holy grail ! | |||
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"Can the ladies that have the problems say with hand on heart that they were 100% attracted to both parties equally and that play was also split equally and that they didn't focus more on one partner more than the other? Only asking as i'm finding it difficult to comprehend that two long termers on Fab can pick duffuns so easily that is all.. S Well of course it's the woman's fault ![]() I wasn't saying that at all & you know it ![]() ![]() | |||
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"In meeting a couple for a first coffee would you expect this to be totally vanilla, especially as it's in a public place, or would you like it to be a little flirty? i.e if we like you should we, as we do with couples, make that clear very early on by being flirty and stuff or do you really need us to chill and be vanilla friends first? As I hope it's becoming plain, the entire purpose of this thread is to try and understand and respect single women's needs and desires. If, in doing so, it helps other couples play better with single women then hopefully it'll be part of the solution rather than the problem ![]() Flirting is vanilla! I don't know about others but IME if you can't establish mutual interest either by word or deed during a first social, it is highly unlikely there will be a follow-up play meet. That's the same for threesomes, foursomes, even for some one-on-ones. If nobody is proactive or focused on the sex, it won't happen. On one particular time a couple who had invited me out turned me down cos after two hours of drinking and talking about their sex life the woman felt like I was too much like a friend ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Jesus, how many single ladies have commented on couples having issues on this thread? Don't tar us all with the same brush please! As far as we are concerned a three way FFM meet is 3 people meeting up to play on an equal footing, we don't put a single lady on a pedestal or conversely use them to fulfil a fantasy our ours.... Absolutely spot on , well said . We have had more ffm meets than we care to remember , and every one has been equally as enjoyable for all three of us . But , and here's the thing , we don't actively seek this kind of meet any more than an Mmf , a group play or a tv . There's not a chance we will jump through hoops for the so called elusive holy grail ! " I think that's the point, single ladies will invariably attract the "seeking female only" couples, with issues, as such we all get tainted. We don't actively seek single females more than any other type of meet and everyone we play with, single guys, single girls, couples and groups it's just fun with everyone on an equal footing, saying couples are trouble is nonsense | |||
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"In meeting a couple for a first coffee would you expect this to be totally vanilla, especially as it's in a public place, or would you like it to be a little flirty? i.e if we like you should we, as we do with couples, make that clear very early on by being flirty and stuff or do you really need us to chill and be vanilla friends first? As I hope it's becoming plain, the entire purpose of this thread is to try and understand and respect single women's needs and desires. If, in doing so, it helps other couples play better with single women then hopefully it'll be part of the solution rather than the problem ![]() ![]() ![]() Phew what a relief ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Jesus, how many single ladies have commented on couples having issues on this thread? Don't tar us all with the same brush please! As far as we are concerned a three way FFM meet is 3 people meeting up to play on an equal footing, we don't put a single lady on a pedestal or conversely use them to fulfil a fantasy our ours.... Absolutely spot on , well said . We have had more ffm meets than we care to remember , and every one has been equally as enjoyable for all three of us . But , and here's the thing , we don't actively seek this kind of meet any more than an Mmf , a group play or a tv . There's not a chance we will jump through hoops for the so called elusive holy grail ! I think that's the point, single ladies will invariably attract the "seeking female only" couples, with issues, as such we all get tainted. We don't actively seek single females more than any other type of meet and everyone we play with, single guys, single girls, couples and groups it's just fun with everyone on an equal footing, saying couples are trouble is nonsense " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"In meeting a couple for a first coffee would you expect this to be totally vanilla, especially as it's in a public place, or would you like it to be a little flirty? i.e if we like you should we, as we do with couples, make that clear very early on by being flirty and stuff or do you really need us to chill and be vanilla friends first? As I hope it's becoming plain, the entire purpose of this thread is to try and understand and respect single women's needs and desires. If, in doing so, it helps other couples play better with single women then hopefully it'll be part of the solution rather than the problem ![]() I would definitely prefer a coffee meet with plenty of flirting from both the man and woman. I need to feel the right vibes are there from both people. | |||
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"Jesus, how many single ladies have commented on couples having issues on this thread? Don't tar us all with the same brush please! As far as we are concerned a three way FFM meet is 3 people meeting up to play on an equal footing, we don't put a single lady on a pedestal or conversely use them to fulfil a fantasy our ours.... Absolutely spot on , well said . We have had more ffm meets than we care to remember , and every one has been equally as enjoyable for all three of us . But , and here's the thing , we don't actively seek this kind of meet any more than an Mmf , a group play or a tv . There's not a chance we will jump through hoops for the so called elusive holy grail ! I think that's the point, single ladies will invariably attract the "seeking female only" couples, with issues, as such we all get tainted. We don't actively seek single females more than any other type of meet and everyone we play with, single guys, single girls, couples and groups it's just fun with everyone on an equal footing, saying couples are trouble is nonsense " I disagree. Couples are troublesome and present a lot of issues, jealousy, insecurity, getting the balance right when playing, and the worst part as someone has already mentioned is when the man starts messaging me privately for me to meet him without his wife. There are a few couples on here who swear blind they have the perfect relationship, the best sex life, and they have 100% trust, but unfortunately unknowingly they are married to a cheater. But hey, ignorance is bliss. | |||
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"Jesus, how many single ladies have commented on couples having issues on this thread? Don't tar us all with the same brush please! As far as we are concerned a three way FFM meet is 3 people meeting up to play on an equal footing, we don't put a single lady on a pedestal or conversely use them to fulfil a fantasy our ours.... Absolutely spot on , well said . We have had more ffm meets than we care to remember , and every one has been equally as enjoyable for all three of us . But , and here's the thing , we don't actively seek this kind of meet any more than an Mmf , a group play or a tv . There's not a chance we will jump through hoops for the so called elusive holy grail ! I think that's the point, single ladies will invariably attract the "seeking female only" couples, with issues, as such we all get tainted. We don't actively seek single females more than any other type of meet and everyone we play with, single guys, single girls, couples and groups it's just fun with everyone on an equal footing, saying couples are trouble is nonsense I disagree. Couples are troublesome and present a lot of issues, jealousy, insecurity, getting the balance right when playing, and the worst part as someone has already mentioned is when the man starts messaging me privately for me to meet him without his wife. There are a few couples on here who swear blind they have the perfect relationship, the best sex life, and they have 100% trust, but unfortunately unknowingly they are married to a cheater. But hey, ignorance is bliss." Exactly our point a single lady tarring all couples with the same brush ![]() | |||
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"Jesus, how many single ladies have commented on couples having issues on this thread? Don't tar us all with the same brush please! As far as we are concerned a three way FFM meet is 3 people meeting up to play on an equal footing, we don't put a single lady on a pedestal or conversely use them to fulfil a fantasy our ours.... Absolutely spot on , well said . We have had more ffm meets than we care to remember , and every one has been equally as enjoyable for all three of us . But , and here's the thing , we don't actively seek this kind of meet any more than an Mmf , a group play or a tv . There's not a chance we will jump through hoops for the so called elusive holy grail ! I think that's the point, single ladies will invariably attract the "seeking female only" couples, with issues, as such we all get tainted. We don't actively seek single females more than any other type of meet and everyone we play with, single guys, single girls, couples and groups it's just fun with everyone on an equal footing, saying couples are trouble is nonsense I disagree. Couples are troublesome and present a lot of issues, jealousy, insecurity, getting the balance right when playing, and the worst part as someone has already mentioned is when the man starts messaging me privately for me to meet him without his wife. There are a few couples on here who swear blind they have the perfect relationship, the best sex life, and they have 100% trust, but unfortunately unknowingly they are married to a cheater. But hey, ignorance is bliss. Exactly our point a single lady tarring all couples with the same brush ![]() Not all, some. | |||
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"Jesus, how many single ladies have commented on couples having issues on this thread? Don't tar us all with the same brush please! As far as we are concerned a three way FFM meet is 3 people meeting up to play on an equal footing, we don't put a single lady on a pedestal or conversely use them to fulfil a fantasy our ours.... Absolutely spot on , well said . We have had more ffm meets than we care to remember , and every one has been equally as enjoyable for all three of us . But , and here's the thing , we don't actively seek this kind of meet any more than an Mmf , a group play or a tv . There's not a chance we will jump through hoops for the so called elusive holy grail ! I think that's the point, single ladies will invariably attract the "seeking female only" couples, with issues, as such we all get tainted. We don't actively seek single females more than any other type of meet and everyone we play with, single guys, single girls, couples and groups it's just fun with everyone on an equal footing, saying couples are trouble is nonsense I disagree. Couples are troublesome and present a lot of issues, jealousy, insecurity, getting the balance right when playing, and the worst part as someone has already mentioned is when the man starts messaging me privately for me to meet him without his wife. There are a few couples on here who swear blind they have the perfect relationship, the best sex life, and they have 100% trust, but unfortunately unknowingly they are married to a cheater. But hey, ignorance is bliss. Exactly our point a single lady tarring all couples with the same brush ![]() You didn't say some ![]() | |||
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"Jesus, how many single ladies have commented on couples having issues on this thread? Don't tar us all with the same brush please! As far as we are concerned a three way FFM meet is 3 people meeting up to play on an equal footing, we don't put a single lady on a pedestal or conversely use them to fulfil a fantasy our ours.... Absolutely spot on , well said . We have had more ffm meets than we care to remember , and every one has been equally as enjoyable for all three of us . But , and here's the thing , we don't actively seek this kind of meet any more than an Mmf , a group play or a tv . There's not a chance we will jump through hoops for the so called elusive holy grail ! I think that's the point, single ladies will invariably attract the "seeking female only" couples, with issues, as such we all get tainted. We don't actively seek single females more than any other type of meet and everyone we play with, single guys, single girls, couples and groups it's just fun with everyone on an equal footing, saying couples are trouble is nonsense I disagree. Couples are troublesome and present a lot of issues, jealousy, insecurity, getting the balance right when playing, and the worst part as someone has already mentioned is when the man starts messaging me privately for me to meet him without his wife. There are a few couples on here who swear blind they have the perfect relationship, the best sex life, and they have 100% trust, but unfortunately unknowingly they are married to a cheater. But hey, ignorance is bliss. Exactly our point a single lady tarring all couples with the same brush ![]() ![]() Sorry I should of said "some" in my original post, as I have met some great couples who don't have issues, so they do exist ![]() | |||
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"I prefer a social first. So many couples have issues between them, i.e. One only swinging to please the other, jealousy issues, lots of rules such as no kissing, no penetrative, so it's best to sort this out before fun begins x" I tend not to meet couples for this reason..that or I fancy one and not the other...wish I had more opportunity to meet couples where mutual boxes are all ticked ![]() | |||
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"I prefer a social first. So many couples have issues between them, i.e. One only swinging to please the other, jealousy issues, lots of rules such as no kissing, no penetrative, so it's best to sort this out before fun begins x That's one think we've always said to newbie couples that you should both be in swinging because you want to be not doing to please the other. We've seen a few fallouts in clubs over the years when one person from a couple has got jealous. As a couple we both love it we both like playing a both really enjoy seeing the other play and never understand why people don't kiss it's the thing that gets the play going but there happily do oral. Also if one of us isn't happy or comfortable we would take one for the team so to speak. To use it's all about everyone who is involved being comfortable and having fun wether it's with a single or a couple. Shame more couples didn't have your attitude." Agreed. We've met couples in the past where one is clearly being pushed into it. It spoils the experience for us. | |||
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"Jesus, how many single ladies have commented on couples having issues on this thread? Don't tar us all with the same brush please! As far as we are concerned a three way FFM meet is 3 people meeting up to play on an equal footing, we don't put a single lady on a pedestal or conversely use them to fulfil a fantasy our ours.... Absolutely spot on , well said . We have had more ffm meets than we care to remember , and every one has been equally as enjoyable for all three of us . But , and here's the thing , we don't actively seek this kind of meet any more than an Mmf , a group play or a tv . There's not a chance we will jump through hoops for the so called elusive holy grail ! I think that's the point, single ladies will invariably attract the "seeking female only" couples, with issues, as such we all get tainted. We don't actively seek single females more than any other type of meet and everyone we play with, single guys, single girls, couples and groups it's just fun with everyone on an equal footing, saying couples are trouble is nonsense I disagree. Couples are troublesome and present a lot of issues, jealousy, insecurity, getting the balance right when playing, and the worst part as someone has already mentioned is when the man starts messaging me privately for me to meet him without his wife. There are a few couples on here who swear blind they have the perfect relationship, the best sex life, and they have 100% trust, but unfortunately unknowingly they are married to a cheater. But hey, ignorance is bliss." Funnily enough we have met a lot of people through group socials & had a few play meets & more than once have been asked if we play alone. Both of us have been approached by singletons so it happens both ways ![]() | |||
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