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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Been on the site for a week and I am struggling to arrange a meet or even strike up conversation on here. I would like to think that my messages are always respectful and thought out... No one liners, and I also try to make them personal. ie no copied messages etc, but to no avail.

Any tips or pointers would be gladly accepted.

Thanks,

Jay.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A week is a blink of an eye.

Patience young grasshopper. You are one of 1000's of men competing for the attention of a smaller number of women by comparison. Make yourself stand out and you shall be seen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I assume you send a face pic with your messages?

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By *andi_shopWoman
over a year ago

rotherham

You've been here a week, that's no time for a single male to meet anyone. If you were to message me I would delete due to your profile

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By *axandbooCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

Wow a whole week!!!

That's a conversation for us to arrange arranging a meet for two weeks down the line lol

Dax has been a single bloke on here and it is hard work.....get to a club or social in your area and get verifications as they help

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Did a mate tell you to sign up and you'd get a shag?

The women on Fab are here for their own reasons, not just to shag any guy who shows up

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I hear you! How would you suggest I make myself stand out? I understand women on here are inundated with a million messages a day!

Is it down to profile pic? As an average guy I find it hard to stand out amongst a sea of six packs and shaved chests lol...

Or more to do with the text? I think mine is OK but obviously if any seasoned vets out there think otherwise I would be more than happy to take that on board!

Thanks for the reply!

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

A week is nothing in Fabland

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

No... I am a single parent out of a long ltr, I just have no time for a conventional relationship ATM, just looking to make new friends and have some fun along the way. Not just sex 'fun' but a good giggle too.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"I hear you! How would you suggest I make myself stand out? I understand women on here are inundated with a million messages a day!

Is it down to profile pic? As an average guy I find it hard to stand out amongst a sea of six packs and shaved chests lol...

Or more to do with the text? I think mine is OK but obviously if any seasoned vets out there think otherwise I would be more than happy to take that on board!

Thanks for the reply!

"

Not all women want six packs, nor do we want pics of a cock from different angles. We want to be teased, wonder what's under the clothes and so on.

And we haven't got time to message new guys who say 'message me' in their profile

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By *andi_shopWoman
over a year ago

rotherham


"I hear you! How would you suggest I make myself stand out? I understand women on here are inundated with a million messages a day!

Is it down to profile pic? As an average guy I find it hard to stand out amongst a sea of six packs and shaved chests lol...

Or more to do with the text? I think mine is OK but obviously if any seasoned vets out there think otherwise I would be more than happy to take that on board!

Thanks for the reply!

"

The pics would put me off, all dick pics

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Yes always.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It also says more than that... Just trying to be approachable

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

But why... This is what I am trying to find out!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I have gone for full body but I always send face pic with messages too

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By *andi_shopWoman
over a year ago

rotherham

Please press reply and quote so we know who your replying to

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Please press reply and quote so we know who your replying to "

Thanks for the heads up

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I assume you send a face pic with your messages?"

Always...

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

So who have you been replying to?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

OP send me your usual first message and face pic and I will give you my honest opinion on it if you like?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So who have you been replying to? "

I was trying to reply to everyone! Woe is me!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Wow a whole week!!!

That's a conversation for us to arrange arranging a meet for two weeks down the line lol

Dax has been a single bloke on here and it is hard work.....get to a club or social in your area and get verifications as they help"

thank you there's some good advice in there... Mixed with sarcasm!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Did a mate tell you to sign up and you'd get a shag?

The women on Fab are here for their own reasons, not just to shag any guy who shows up "

No I'm a single parent with little time to form a conventional relationship... But also after something more than a 'shag' lol

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By *andi_shopWoman
over a year ago

rotherham

I don't think the wording to your profile is too bad it would literally be the pics that would put me off and if I wasn't attracted to your face pic. I'm one of these shallow women who has to be visually attracted before chatting away

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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Give Townhouse a try, Check there website to see what's on, Or try the Manchester clubs

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"OP send me your usual first message and face pic and I will give you my honest opinion on it if you like?"

Thanks

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Got it and replied, it has a huge flaw, though I suspect you're the kind of man who will take that on board and improve your messages.

For the record he's cute and even smiles in his face pic

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got it and replied, it has a huge flaw, though I suspect you're the kind of man who will take that on board and improve your messages.

For the record he's cute and even smiles in his face pic "

You are too kind and I really appricaite your help and advice!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Got it and replied, it has a huge flaw, though I suspect you're the kind of man who will take that on board and improve your messages.

For the record he's cute and even smiles in his face pic "

A rarity in itself

I'd see the dick avatar and just delete without reading, to be honest.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Been on the site for a week and I am struggling to arrange a meet or even strike up conversation on here. I would like to think that my messages are always respectful and thought out... No one liners, and I also try to make them personal. ie no copied messages etc, but to no avail.

Any tips or pointers would be gladly accepted.

Thanks,

Jay. "

...."I commend your patience"....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Been on the site for a week and I am struggling to arrange a meet or even strike up conversation on here. I would like to think that my messages are always respectful and thought out... No one liners, and I also try to make them personal. ie no copied messages etc, but to no avail.

Any tips or pointers would be gladly accepted.

Thanks,

Jay.

...."I commend your patience"...."

Love this Steve!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never get a reply what am doing wrong

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"...."I commend your patience"...."

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"I never get a reply what am doing wrong "

We don't know

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"I never get a reply what am doing wrong

We don't know"

Oh wait, you shout too much

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I have changed my pic if it's any better?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Got it and replied, it has a huge flaw, though I suspect you're the kind of man who will take that on board and improve your messages.

For the record he's cute and even smiles in his face pic

A rarity in itself

I'd see the dick avatar and just delete without reading, to be honest."

I have now changed picture. I see that was quite a big sticking point to most

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have changed my pic if it's any better? "

You've still only got three dick pics public.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Profile text is good in my opinion. We would pass you by for 2 reasons. One you are new to the swing scene (not much you can do about that though), and the other reason is that every single picture is a picture of a cock.

Mrs

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By *andi_shopWoman
over a year ago

rotherham


"I have changed my pic if it's any better? "

Personally no as you still only have 3 pics and they are still all dick pics

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public."

No dick pics allowed? Anywhere? Lol... In my defence I am a total noob at this internet business

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get better pictures only do dick ones if theyre good pics.

I got my first meet in 45 mins after sighing back up :p

Fuck patience, go seize the day :p

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public."

People don't like cocks rammed down their.....hang on....people don't like cock PHOTOS rammed....oh hell....I do.

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By *andi_shopWoman
over a year ago

rotherham


"Get better pictures only do dick ones if theyre good pics.

I got my first meet in 45 mins after sighing back up :p

Fuck patience, go seize the day :p"

You have a good variety of pics tho

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Yeah the text is fine - you could maybe put more of your personality into it, which is pretty tricky sometimes - but what sort of person are you? What do you like? What don't you like? What can you offer? What's good about you? What do you do outside of fab? See? Make it interesting....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public.

No dick pics allowed? Anywhere? Lol... In my defence I am a total noob at this internet business "

Would you walk into a bar with a bag over your head, waving your dick about? If so, would you seriously expect women to be interested in this approach?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Oh, the photos are naff though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public.

People don't like cocks rammed down their.....hang on....people don't like cock PHOTOS rammed....oh hell....I do. "

I thought everyone loved a dick pic or 3 lol...

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public.

No dick pics allowed? Anywhere? Lol... In my defence I am a total noob at this internet business

Would you walk into a bar with a bag over your head, waving your dick about? If so, would you seriously expect women to be interested in this approach?"

Have you been to Hove?

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By *andi_shopWoman
over a year ago

rotherham


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public.

No dick pics allowed? Anywhere? Lol... In my defence I am a total noob at this internet business "

I'm not a fan of them however if one in say 4-5 pics were a dick pic I could cope with that. Put some nice boxers on and do a body shot

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I never get a reply what am doing wrong "
shouty

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Get better pictures only do dick ones if theyre good pics.

I got my first meet in 45 mins after sighing back up :p

Fuck patience, go seize the day :p"

It's obviously easier for you to get noticed being an Adonis and what not... What about us lads with a bit of timber on us? Not so easy...

I mean if I was a lady I would mate lol!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public.

People don't like cocks rammed down their.....hang on....people don't like cock PHOTOS rammed....oh hell....I do.

I thought everyone loved a dick pic or 3 lol...

Why did think that?"

It was a bit of a tongue in cheek comment

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public.

People don't like cocks rammed down their.....hang on....people don't like cock PHOTOS rammed....oh hell....I do.

I thought everyone loved a dick pic or 3 lol...

Why did think that?

It was a bit of a tongue in cheek comment "

that's for arse photos

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Get better pictures only do dick ones if theyre good pics.

I got my first meet in 45 mins after sighing back up :p

Fuck patience, go seize the day :p

It's obviously easier for you to get noticed being an Adonis and what not... What about us lads with a bit of timber on us? Not so easy...

I mean if I was a lady I would mate lol! "

Go to the gym then.

I go 3 times a week after work, for about 45 mins and spend half that time talking about bikes.

Bit of size on your back and shoulders helps make you look slimmer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well i been here 3 weeks no friends no replies..so give it time...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public.

No dick pics allowed? Anywhere? Lol... In my defence I am a total noob at this internet business

Would you walk into a bar with a bag over your head, waving your dick about? If so, would you seriously expect women to be interested in this approach?

Have you been to Hove? "

No LOL. Sounds like I'm missing out!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Get better pictures only do dick ones if theyre good pics.

I got my first meet in 45 mins after sighing back up :p

Fuck patience, go seize the day :p

It's obviously easier for you to get noticed being an Adonis and what not... What about us lads with a bit of timber on us? Not so easy...

I mean if I was a lady I would mate lol!

Go to the gym then.

I go 3 times a week after work, for about 45 mins and spend half that time talking about bikes.

Bit of size on your back and shoulders helps make you look slimmer

"

I would love to go to the gym mate... But you try being a full time single parent that works ten hours a day and then all weekend taking your 10 year old son up and down the country for football... I wish there was more hours in the day!

But thanks for taking time to reply mate I do appreciate it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public.

No dick pics allowed? Anywhere? Lol... In my defence I am a total noob at this internet business

Would you walk into a bar with a bag over your head, waving your dick about? If so, would you seriously expect women to be interested in this approach?"

Probably if I was d*unk... That why I don't drink lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public."

Only one now... Is that an acceptable amount of penis for one profile or still too much? Lol

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"Get better pictures only do dick ones if theyre good pics.

I got my first meet in 45 mins after sighing back up :p

Fuck patience, go seize the day :p

It's obviously easier for you to get noticed being an Adonis and what not... What about us lads with a bit of timber on us? Not so easy...

I mean if I was a lady I would mate lol! "

We're not all about ripped guys

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public.

Only one now... Is that an acceptable amount of penis for one profile or still too much? Lol

"

Too much. Why isn't the avatar there as a pic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

one week is no time at all - get to a social event and meet some people -

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public.

Only one now... Is that an acceptable amount of penis for one profile or still too much? Lol

Too much. Why isn't the avatar there as a pic?"

What do you mean by avatar as a pic?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public.

Only one now... Is that an acceptable amount of penis for one profile or still too much? Lol

Too much. Why isn't the avatar there as a pic?

What do you mean by avatar as a pic? "

The one you are using as your avatar doesn't seem to be in your public pics?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have changed my pic if it's any better?

You've still only got three dick pics public.

Only one now... Is that an acceptable amount of penis for one profile or still too much? Lol

Too much. Why isn't the avatar there as a pic?

What do you mean by avatar as a pic?

The one you are using as your avatar doesn't seem to be in your public pics?"

That has now been rectified...

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"That has now been rectified...

"

Not showing yet but might take a minute I guess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Been on the site for a week and I am struggling to arrange a meet or even strike up conversation on here. I would like to think that my messages are always respectful and thought out... No one liners, and I also try to make them personal. ie no copied messages etc, but to no avail.

Any tips or pointers would be gladly accepted.

Thanks,

Jay. "

A week really is no time tbh.

I think guys on here roughly fall into one of two approaches.

The first focus on a fast turn around with a lot of emphasis on messaging and initiating conversations. They usually send a relatively high number of messages and play the numbers game hoping if they send enough messages they will eventually get a bite. They often have relatively poor profiles and pictures and send copy and paste messages. I think these guys use the site often when they are horny and need a meet now so struggle with patience.

The second type tend to play a longer game, they focus on their profile being as appealing as possible with a good selection of photographs, they stay active around the site using more of the features of it to make their profile stand out and get noticed. They only send the occasional considered first message and rely more on women contacting them first. I think these guys use the site more like a social network, they focus less on getting the meets as they just happen as a consequence of there other activity.

That's just my take on it and obviously guys can fall somewhere been the two. I recommend the second approach, it's a lot less demoralising than spamming out messages that nobody reads and is a lot more fun too.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I'm probably the second type of guy on here.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Oooo I'm underneath two hotties

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Been on the site for a week and I am struggling to arrange a meet or even strike up conversation on here. I would like to think that my messages are always respectful and thought out... No one liners, and I also try to make them personal. ie no copied messages etc, but to no avail.

Any tips or pointers would be gladly accepted.

Thanks,

Jay.

A week really is no time tbh.

I think guys on here roughly fall into one of two approaches.

The first focus on a fast turn around with a lot of emphasis on messaging and initiating conversations. They usually send a relatively high number of messages and play the numbers game hoping if they send enough messages they will eventually get a bite. They often have relatively poor profiles and pictures and send copy and paste messages. I think these guys use the site often when they are horny and need a meet now so struggle with patience.

The second type tend to play a longer game, they focus on their profile being as appealing as possible with a good selection of photographs, they stay active around the site using more of the features of it to make their profile stand out and get noticed. They only send the occasional considered first message and rely more on women contacting them first. I think these guys use the site more like a social network, they focus less on getting the meets as they just happen as a consequence of there other activity.

That's just my take on it and obviously guys can fall somewhere been the two. I recommend the second approach, it's a lot less demoralising than spamming out messages that nobody reads and is a lot more fun too. "

I think the second type will probably play with someone of their choice, whereas the first choice will play with whoever they can. We find the first type a turn-off - smacks of desperation and lack of self respect.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have you got many photos on your profile ?

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By *izzy.Woman
over a year ago

Stoke area

Gold star for sticking with the thread, listening to people's advise and acting on it.

I suggest including a few more photos in your profile. Have a nosey at other guys profile pics that use the forums regularly to get some ideas.

Maybe add a bit about your experience on the past....so you don't look like a complete newbie. What you are into or good at etc.

Be patient and keep sending personal and friendly messages and you will soon get started in the wonderful world of FAB !

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Been on the site for a week and I am struggling to arrange a meet or even strike up conversation on here. I would like to think that my messages are always respectful and thought out... No one liners, and I also try to make them personal. ie no copied messages etc, but to no avail.

Any tips or pointers would be gladly accepted.

Thanks,

Jay.

A week really is no time tbh.

I think guys on here roughly fall into one of two approaches.

The first focus on a fast turn around with a lot of emphasis on messaging and initiating conversations. They usually send a relatively high number of messages and play the numbers game hoping if they send enough messages they will eventually get a bite. They often have relatively poor profiles and pictures and send copy and paste messages. I think these guys use the site often when they are horny and need a meet now so struggle with patience.

The second type tend to play a longer game, they focus on their profile being as appealing as possible with a good selection of photographs, they stay active around the site using more of the features of it to make their profile stand out and get noticed. They only send the occasional considered first message and rely more on women contacting them first. I think these guys use the site more like a social network, they focus less on getting the meets as they just happen as a consequence of there other activity.

That's just my take on it and obviously guys can fall somewhere been the two. I recommend the second approach, it's a lot less demoralising than spamming out messages that nobody reads and is a lot more fun too. "

Thank you for the advice mate... I'd like to think I am in the second category and I am definitely looking for quality over quantity and I would rather have a connection with somebody than jump into with anybody.

I will take all you said on board!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Gold star for sticking with the thread, listening to people's advise and acting on it.

I suggest including a few more photos in your profile. Have a nosey at other guys profile pics that use the forums regularly to get some ideas.

Maybe add a bit about your experience on the past....so you don't look like a complete newbie. What you are into or good at etc.

Be patient and keep sending personal and friendly messages and you will soon get started in the wonderful world of FAB ! "

Thanks for your kind words and advice, only an idiot would decline advice from people who have been in the same position before.

I definitely do some more pics, I'm just don't posses much of a photographer's eye!

And, I will change my bio up a bit... I just find it difficult writing about myself too much!

I appreciate the time you took to reply

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Have you got many photos on your profile ? "

Not very many... I don't really see myself as much of a photographer but will have to try harder!

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By *ishopstippleMan
over a year ago

Purley


"Been on the site for a week and I am struggling to arrange a meet or even strike up conversation on here. I would like to think that my messages are always respectful and thought out... No one liners, and I also try to make them personal. ie no copied messages etc, but to no avail.

Any tips or pointers would be gladly accepted.

Thanks,

Jay. "

Jeeezz

I've been here for 5 yrs, had only a couple of meets of this site - What were you expecting the 10% of this site that are women on here rushing to you door.

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over a year ago


"Been on the site for a week and I am struggling to arrange a meet or even strike up conversation on here. I would like to think that my messages are always respectful and thought out... No one liners, and I also try to make them personal. ie no copied messages etc, but to no avail.

Any tips or pointers would be gladly accepted.

Thanks,

Jay.

A week really is no time tbh.

I think guys on here roughly fall into one of two approaches.

The first focus on a fast turn around with a lot of emphasis on messaging and initiating conversations. They usually send a relatively high number of messages and play the numbers game hoping if they send enough messages they will eventually get a bite. They often have relatively poor profiles and pictures and send copy and paste messages. I think these guys use the site often when they are horny and need a meet now so struggle with patience.

The second type tend to play a longer game, they focus on their profile being as appealing as possible with a good selection of photographs, they stay active around the site using more of the features of it to make their profile stand out and get noticed. They only send the occasional considered first message and rely more on women contacting them first. I think these guys use the site more like a social network, they focus less on getting the meets as they just happen as a consequence of there other activity.

That's just my take on it and obviously guys can fall somewhere been the two. I recommend the second approach, it's a lot less demoralising than spamming out messages that nobody reads and is a lot more fun too.

I think the second type will probably play with someone of their choice, whereas the first choice will play with whoever they can. We find the first type a turn-off - smacks of desperation and lack of self respect.

Mrs"

Thanks.

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over a year ago


"Been on the site for a week and I am struggling to arrange a meet or even strike up conversation on here. I would like to think that my messages are always respectful and thought out... No one liners, and I also try to make them personal. ie no copied messages etc, but to no avail.

Any tips or pointers would be gladly accepted.

Thanks,

Jay.

Jeeezz

I've been here for 5 yrs, had only a couple of meets of this site - What were you expecting the 10% of this site that are women on here rushing to you door."

No I'm looking for advice as I'm new... Do you have any or do you just want to snipe at me from behind a computer screen?

All advice is considered... Thank you or taking time to reply.

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over a year ago

Be more than your penis.

Don't contact people like it's Gumtree or you're selling a puppy...I'm looking for/I am house trained, etc.

Rome wasn't built in a day, nor were Roman orgies.(maybe)...it's a social site not a fuck all in sight site.

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By *ishopstippleMan
over a year ago

Purley


"Been on the site for a week and I am struggling to arrange a meet or even strike up conversation on here. I would like to think that my messages are always respectful and thought out... No one liners, and I also try to make them personal. ie no copied messages etc, but to no avail.

Any tips or pointers would be gladly accepted.

Thanks,

Jay.

Jeeezz

I've been here for 5 yrs, had only a couple of meets of this site - What were you expecting the 10% of this site that are women on here rushing to you door.

No I'm looking for advice as I'm new... Do you have any or do you just want to snipe at me from behind a computer screen?

All advice is considered... Thank you or taking time to reply. "

Ok Start with your Pic's thats taken from an angle that someone might normally see you from.

How about a face pic and one or two of you fully clothed. Sex starts with your clothes on normally.

Anyone wanting to meet someone will want to know what you look like.

You profile is also only about what you want, its not about what your offering any prospective liaison(s).

There must a ton of threads in the archive on this very subject. Take some time and do some research.

Above all be patient and don't expect much from this site -you wont be disappointed. As I said very few meets in 5+yrs from here.

Most women get many hundreds of messages a day, so guess how many they are going to reply to... the odds are against you. Unless you standout in both your initial message and the next thing they look at; your profile. Your message will be deleted, along with the other hundreds.

Ask yourself: "why would they want to meet Jay"?

Good luck & happy hunting.

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