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"dont the hormone supplements make getting an erection harder? previous poster prob right, more chance of finding a TV that will top/switches. " The testosterone blockers and hormones reduce the size of testicles by about 50%. Often render you infertile and impotent. | |||
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"Please don't bite my head off for typing this, it is only my understanding of TS and or TG... So the initial's give it away a little TG (Transgender), TS (Transexual). These are people trapped in the wrong body and work hard to achieve their real self, usually with the help of hormones and or surgery. Thus leaving the penis relatively inactive or non at all, that should explain the reason why the majority are bottom. Transvestites and crossdressers, dress for their own gratification and some like to share it with others, whether it's for sex or just a social/make-up meet. These people are men with fully functioning sexual organs. Some are drop dead gorgeous, some are more of a cock in a frock, while others think that stealing their wife's knickers for a want makes them a CD. It's a bloody minefield! Please note. I do not wish to offend anyone by what I've written, it's just my understanding and if I'm wrong I will quite happily listend to wherever I'm wrong. " Pretty much my understanding 100% you described it perfectly as far as I am concerned. There is always going to be grey areas between groups and also what one person thinks is a CD another will think TV and so on as thre isnt an exact line. | |||
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"Please don't bite my head off for typing this, it is only my understanding of TS and or TG... So the initial's give it away a little TG (Transgender), TS (Transexual). These are people trapped in the wrong body and work hard to achieve their real self, usually with the help of hormones and or surgery. Thus leaving the penis relatively inactive or non at all, that should explain the reason why the majority are bottom. Transvestites and crossdressers, dress for their own gratification and some like to share it with others, whether it's for sex or just a social/make-up meet. These people are men with fully functioning sexual organs. Some are drop dead gorgeous, some are more of a cock in a frock, while others think that stealing their wife's knickers for a want makes them a CD. It's a bloody minefield! Please note. I do not wish to offend anyone by what I've written, it's just my understanding and if I'm wrong I will quite happily listend to wherever I'm wrong. Pretty much my understanding 100% you described it perfectly as far as I am concerned. There is always going to be grey areas between groups and also what one person thinks is a CD another will think TV and so on as thre isnt an exact line. " There are a lot of grey areas and interpretations but to me that kinda sums it up. There are crossdressers and/or transvestites who have been dressing for so many years they think they know all the answers and will tell TG or TS girls they are just 'trannys'. By going so they cause enormous offence. What I'm saying is; no one is an expert who knows and understands it all. We each have our own version of what's going on in our heads. Some of it just happens and we're aware of it from a very early age. Some of the female thoughts are brought in through life experiences. The rule of thumb for anyone interacting with someone who is trans is to simply refer to them by the gender they present as. I have only mentioned trans girls and male to female transvestites here. Point to note is that there are also an awful lot of transvestites and transgender men too. Female to male. | |||
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"Thanks Amy, That's quite thrown me... I wasn't expecting that, I usually get shot down from a great height! Lol I think the fine lines are just personal taste as crossdresser and transvestite are basically the same thing. I'd rather be a transvestite than a crossdresser... just sounds nicer in my opinion! " It doesnt surprise me that you expected to get shot down, I have seen it happen on these forums a number of times on this subject. Some people do seem to be very serious about the lines of demarkation and how someone who is perceived to be one thing cannot be described as another. Life is a bit too short to worry like that and everyone should just chill, blur the lines and crack on with the fun things. | |||
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"Fab needs more profile categories than a one size fits all where this is concerned " I agree here.. but imagine the amount of messages the select few would get haha | |||
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"Fab needs more profile categories than a one size fits all where this is concerned " I agree with you | |||
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"Some of us are still strongly attracted to women, hence we dont want to transition all the way, some of we Trans want best of both worlds... So we shag and get shagged... All these descriptions of what a cd.tv.ts and etc are just the theories of educated fools fed to us as FACTS, they are just confusion" | |||
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"A trans woman is a woman trapped in a man's body- it's that simple. " In which case then it really is not that simple. "trans" and "woman" are used interchangeably when used as - according to personal preference alone for the most part - descriptors of either gender (also a term with no fixed meaning) or biology. And many similarly used similar descriptors are conflated, essentially it can all be rather a mess when it comes to 'me' 'me' 'me', and has all the signs it will only get messier, lol. Happy Fucking x | |||
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"A trans woman is a woman trapped in a man's body- it's that simple. In which case then it really is not that simple. "trans" and "woman" are used interchangeably when used as - according to personal preference alone for the most part - descriptors of either gender (also a term with no fixed meaning) or biology. And many similarly used similar descriptors are conflated, essentially it can all be rather a mess when it comes to 'me' 'me' 'me', and has all the signs it will only get messier, lol. Happy Fucking x" Well I think you can make it as simple or as complicated as you like, like most things in life. I find what you said confusing, but then I'm a bit thick. My friends and most people I talk to seem to understand the concept that I mentioned without any problem. I mean , a dog if a very complicated animal, I'm sure I wouldn't understand it's complications, but if it has whiskers, and barks, and bites me- I know it's a dog.x | |||
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"A trans woman is a woman trapped in a man's body- it's that simple. In which case then it really is not that simple. "trans" and "woman" are used interchangeably when used as - according to personal preference alone for the most part - descriptors of either gender (also a term with no fixed meaning) or biology. And many similarly used similar descriptors are conflated, essentially it can all be rather a mess when it comes to 'me' 'me' 'me', and has all the signs it will only get messier, lol. Happy Fucking xWell I think you can make it as simple or as complicated as you like, like most things in life. I find what you said confusing, but then I'm a bit thick. My friends and most people I talk to seem to understand the concept that I mentioned without any problem. I mean , a dog if a very complicated animal, I'm sure I wouldn't understand it's complications, but if it has whiskers, and barks, and bites me- I know it's a dog.x" We wouldn't get on, lol, x | |||
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"A trans woman is a woman trapped in a man's body- it's that simple. In which case then it really is not that simple. "trans" and "woman" are used interchangeably when used as - according to personal preference alone for the most part - descriptors of either gender (also a term with no fixed meaning) or biology. And many similarly used similar descriptors are conflated, essentially it can all be rather a mess when it comes to 'me' 'me' 'me', and has all the signs it will only get messier, lol. Happy Fucking xWell I think you can make it as simple or as complicated as you like, like most things in life. I find what you said confusing, but then I'm a bit thick. My friends and most people I talk to seem to understand the concept that I mentioned without any problem. I mean , a dog if a very complicated animal, I'm sure I wouldn't understand it's complications, but if it has whiskers, and barks, and bites me- I know it's a dog.x We wouldn't get on, lol, x " Why ever not ? I know what I am, and respect the views of others, as I expect them to respect mine. All I am talking about is my own experience and that of my peers. Doesn't mean I dislike anyone or look down on anyone with a differing opinion to any I hold. An option is a person's own property, and does not affect me in any way. It is just that, a personal opinion, so being friends is not affected by it.x | |||
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"A trans woman is a woman trapped in a man's body- it's that simple. In which case then it really is not that simple. "trans" and "woman" are used interchangeably when used as - according to personal preference alone for the most part - descriptors of either gender (also a term with no fixed meaning) or biology. And many similarly used similar descriptors are conflated, essentially it can all be rather a mess when it comes to 'me' 'me' 'me', and has all the signs it will only get messier, lol. Happy Fucking xWell I think you can make it as simple or as complicated as you like, like most things in life. I find what you said confusing, but then I'm a bit thick. My friends and most people I talk to seem to understand the concept that I mentioned without any problem. I mean , a dog if a very complicated animal, I'm sure I wouldn't understand it's complications, but if it has whiskers, and barks, and bites me- I know it's a dog.x We wouldn't get on, lol, x Why ever not ? I know what I am, and respect the views of others, as I expect them to respect mine. All I am talking about is my own experience and that of my peers. Doesn't mean I dislike anyone or look down on anyone with a differing opinion to any I hold. An option is a person's own property, and does not affect me in any way. It is just that, a personal opinion, so being friends is not affected by it.x" So this is what we've come to is it, and so soon, the inescapable choice between my enduring your rationalisations or biting my tongue so often I'd have nowt left with which to tongue ass. I love you, but as cruel as it has to be, farewell my friend, and bottoms up! Lol. x | |||
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"Some of us are still strongly attracted to women, hence we dont want to transition all the way, some of we Trans want best of both worlds... So we shag and get shagged... All these descriptions of what a cd.tv.ts and etc are just the theories of educated fools fed to us as FACTS, they are just confusion" Well said that girl ! I'm a versatile TV that loves the best of both worlds, being a top or a bottom with males or females. It just depends on the people involved. X | |||
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"A trans woman is a woman trapped in a man's body- it's that simple. In which case then it really is not that simple. "trans" and "woman" are used interchangeably when used as - according to personal preference alone for the most part - descriptors of either gender (also a term with no fixed meaning) or biology. And many similarly used similar descriptors are conflated, essentially it can all be rather a mess when it comes to 'me' 'me' 'me', and has all the signs it will only get messier, lol. Happy Fucking xWell I think you can make it as simple or as complicated as you like, like most things in life. I find what you said confusing, but then I'm a bit thick. My friends and most people I talk to seem to understand the concept that I mentioned without any problem. I mean , a dog if a very complicated animal, I'm sure I wouldn't understand it's complications, but if it has whiskers, and barks, and bites me- I know it's a dog.x We wouldn't get on, lol, x Why ever not ? I know what I am, and respect the views of others, as I expect them to respect mine. All I am talking about is my own experience and that of my peers. Doesn't mean I dislike anyone or look down on anyone with a differing opinion to any I hold. An option is a person's own property, and does not affect me in any way. It is just that, a personal opinion, so being friends is not affected by it.x So this is what we've come to is it, and so soon, the inescapable choice between my enduring your rationalisations or biting my tongue so often I'd have nowt left with which to tongue ass. I love you, but as cruel as it has to be, farewell my friend, and bottoms up! Lol. x " You have no reason to bite your tongue on my account, but I'm sure you are clever enough to know this already. You also do not need to endure my'rationalisations' either, all I ever expect from anyone in life is civility, and possibly a little understanding. Have a good evening.x | |||
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"I have the same problem. Starting to think a TV who is top is like a unicorn " Tvs that top are plenty full (. My partner is a TV and fucks me, as do others). Ts are women trapped in male bodies, and are not the same. Have heard folks say: I am a Ts and like both men and women. Replace ts with gay- have you ever heard a gay man say : I am gay, but not going the full way, so still like to fuck women as well ? You do not choose to be ts, any more than you choose to be gay, and cannot change what you are- sorry to bring this up, but lots of confusion in this thread.x | |||
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"Please don't bite my head off for typing this, it is only my understanding of TS and or TG... So the initial's give it away a little TG (Transgender), TS (Transexual). These are people trapped in the wrong body and work hard to achieve their real self, usually with the help of hormones and or surgery. Thus leaving the penis relatively inactive or non at all, that should explain the reason why the majority are bottom. Transvestites and crossdressers, dress for their own gratification and some like to share it with others, whether it's for sex or just a social/make-up meet. These people are men with fully functioning sexual organs. Some are drop dead gorgeous, some are more of a cock in a frock, while others think that stealing their wife's knickers for a want makes them a CD. It's a bloody minefield! Please note. I do not wish to offend anyone by what I've written, it's just my understanding and if I'm wrong I will quite happily listend to wherever I'm wrong. " well said not offend me one bit xx | |||
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"I have the same problem. Starting to think a TV who is top is like a unicorn Tvs that top are plenty full (. My partner is a TV and fucks me, as do others). Ts are women trapped in male bodies, and are not the same. Have heard folks say: I am a Ts and like both men and women. Replace ts with gay- have you ever heard a gay man say : I am gay, but not going the full way, so still like to fuck women as well ? You do not choose to be ts, any more than you choose to be gay, and cannot change what you are- sorry to bring this up, but lots of confusion in this thread.x" Put perfectly | |||
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"I have the same problem. Starting to think a TV who is top is like a unicorn Tvs that top are plenty full (. My partner is a TV and fucks me, as do others). Ts are women trapped in male bodies, and are not the same. Have heard folks say: I am a Ts and like both men and women. Replace ts with gay- have you ever heard a gay man say : I am gay, but not going the full way, so still like to fuck women as well ? You do not choose to be ts, any more than you choose to be gay, and cannot change what you are- sorry to bring this up, but lots of confusion in this thread.x Put perfectly " Hey I'm different I'm me | |||
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"I have the same problem. Starting to think a TV who is top is like a unicorn Tvs that top are plenty full (. My partner is a TV and fucks me, as do others). Ts are women trapped in male bodies, and are not the same. Have heard folks say: I am a Ts and like both men and women. Replace ts with gay- have you ever heard a gay man say : I am gay, but not going the full way, so still like to fuck women as well ? You do not choose to be ts, any more than you choose to be gay, and cannot change what you are- sorry to bring this up, but lots of confusion in this thread.x Put perfectly Hey I'm different I'm me " | |||
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"Dont know what a unicorn is,in terms of this place . But im not just bottom only...in actual fact ive only ever been top so far,until now,currently,as it stands...that is " Read your profile, sounds like you are TV or TV to me unless I am missing something, think they were asking about Ts.lol.x | |||
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"Dont know what a unicorn is,in terms of this place . But im not just bottom only...in actual fact ive only ever been top so far,until now,currently,as it stands...that is Read your profile, sounds like you are TV or TV to me unless I am missing something, think they were asking about Ts.lol.x" Tv or Tg sorry... unless you have been diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria by a medical practitioner... I thought I was having a heart attack once- the specialist diagnosed wind .x | |||
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"What you on about ?! Read profile,i wrote the dam thing...im a TV,refer to myself as a Tgirl as far more accepted than TV = transvetite,Im far from being a hairy pantie wearer...and no im not transgendered.I have no delusions that i am trapped in wrong body,what's difference between a Tgirl and a pre-op TS ??? NOTHING but for the way they think about themselves...and a TS never will top anyone...as hate their own cock !!" My, you really understand Gender dysphoria lol. Glad you know what you are, and remember what you wrote. Why so angry? I am not, just mildly amused.x | |||
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"To be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, a person has to have symptoms that last for at least six months. Many TS only want to appear as the correct gender they think they are. It's all down to personal choice. This is a forum supposed to be fun and advice not to be critical of others. " exactly. And I have given that advice, never set out to critise anybody, in fact I really don't care what another person's sexuality is.The OP asked about ts so I offered advice about tse, ares there seemed to be a lot of misinformation and 'urban myths' introduced to the topic. Not sure how I have upset anyone? Reread, can't see any derogatory remarks that I have made to anyone one x | |||
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"To be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, a person has to have symptoms that last for at least six months. Many TS only want to appear as the correct gender they think they are. It's all down to personal choice. This is a forum supposed to be fun and advice not to be critical of others. exactly. And I have given that advice, never set out to critise anybody, in fact I really don't care what another person's sexuality is.The OP asked about ts so I offered advice about tse, ares there seemed to be a lot of misinformation and 'urban myths' introduced to the topic. Not sure how I have upset anyone? Reread, can't see any derogatory remarks that I have made to anyone one x" I'm surprised to see you confusing gender and sexuality. | |||
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"To be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, a person has to have symptoms that last for at least six months. Many TS only want to appear as the correct gender they think they are. It's all down to personal choice. This is a forum supposed to be fun and advice not to be critical of others. exactly. And I have given that advice, never set out to critise anybody, in fact I really don't care what another person's sexuality is.The OP asked about ts so I offered advice about tse, ares there seemed to be a lot of misinformation and 'urban myths' introduced to the topic. Not sure how I have upset anyone? Reread, can't see any derogatory remarks that I have made to anyone one x I'm surprised to see you confusing gender and sexuality. " Yes you are right. It was badly written very early on a Sunday morning. I am only human. Think you got the gist tho.x | |||
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"To be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, a person has to have symptoms that last for at least six months. Many TS only want to appear as the correct gender they think they are. It's all down to personal choice. This is a forum supposed to be fun and advice not to be critical of others. exactly. And I have given that advice, never set out to critise anybody, in fact I really don't care what another person's sexuality is.The OP asked about ts so I offered advice about tse, ares there seemed to be a lot of misinformation and 'urban myths' introduced to the topic. Not sure how I have upset anyone? Reread, can't see any derogatory remarks that I have made to anyone one x I'm surprised to see you confusing gender and sexuality. Yes you are right. It was badly written very early on a Sunday morning. I am only human. Think you got the gist tho.x" try gender identity or am I still confused, in which case I am sure you will correct me.lol.x | |||
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"Pretty sure Psychological profiling is not something most want to get into on a Sunday. I have respect for every member of the trans comunity be it tv or ts. How we each choose to live is a matter of personal preference. " Exactly as it should be. | |||
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"I hope everyone takes this the way it was intended but as a couple that have recently entered the T-Girl appreciation club the one thing that stands out is that many appear to gravitate to the "Complete Bitch" end of the female gender, Especially when talking about or to those from another T-Girl group. Guess what? Its not attractive Love to all x S&H" I have noticed this a lot too! Tbh its the reason I rarely meet most tvs. Most are up there own a$$ and can be seen to do no wrong. Generally speaking of course as a few of my good friends are tvs too. | |||
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"Completely agree with you I don't subscribe to other trans sexual's deluded self important attitudes. What others think of me is more important than what I think of myself. " Really ? | |||
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"Yes really so don't confuse your opinion with the truth." Kinda confused now- in one post you state: I have respect for every member of the trans comunity. Then in the next post you state: I don't subscribe to other trans sexual's deluded self important attitudes. so... which is it??? | |||
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"Yes really so don't confuse your opinion with the truth." This is another good one: This is a forum supposed to be fun and advice not to be critical of others (quoting from your own post) lol.x | |||
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"Yes really so don't confuse your opinion with the truth.This is another good one: This is a forum supposed to be fun and advice not to be critical of others (quoting from your own post) lol.x" True but I am not the one who openly bullies others am I? We face enough in our lifestyles with out or own gender doing it. | |||
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"Yes really so don't confuse your opinion with the truth.This is another good one: This is a forum supposed to be fun and advice not to be critical of others (quoting from your own post) lol.x True but I am not the one who openly bullies others am I? We face enough in our lifestyles with out or own gender doing it. " you dare to accuse me of bullying ? Show me the evidence-. My only weapon is logic, if you cannot place a logical case, don't resort to childish quips. Hypocrisy is your problem, face up to it..x | |||
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"Well what else would you call causing trouble in a forum and blocking people that defend others? Enough time wasted on your insecurities. The forums are not for you to take out your issues on others." getting even more childish, and irrational. What has my blocking people got to do with anything -why do they need to contact me personally anyhow? To abuse me? The forum is the place to chat. I have insecurities? You are a clinician? Your previous live and let live posts are looking pretty thin now. There is an old saying- when the hole is deep enough, stop digging.lol.x | |||
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"Well what else would you call causing trouble in a forum and blocking people that defend others? Enough time wasted on your insecurities. The forums are not for you to take out your issues on others.getting even more childish, and irrational. What has my blocking people got to do with anything -why do they need to contact me personally anyhow? To abuse me? The forum is the place to chat. I have insecurities? You are a clinician? Your previous live and let live posts are looking pretty thin now. There is an old saying- when the hole is deep enough, stop digging.lol.x" OK I'll play the game ( god forgive me). My bike is better than yours, an it's painted orange|! An...an I got more friends than you.!. Better ??.xx | |||
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