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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

We are hosting our first gangbang one of our fab friends has said it's illegal we want to know if this is true

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By *iltshiregentMan
over a year ago

Calne

They're right.

The Multi-Partner Penetration Act of 2009 made all consensual sex amongst adults illegal where there were more than four people within a 5m radius.

Some clever dick found a loophole though, so it's legal to have multiple threesomes in the presence of someone who is trying to sleep naked.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So what we are doing is technically illegal?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *adysueandneroCouple
over a year ago

witney

It's only illegal if you charge a entry fee!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

We are not charging entry just asking everyone who attends to bring a gift part of the fantasy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's only illegal if you charge a entry fee!!"

When you say "entry".......

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"They're right.

The Multi-Partner Penetration Act of 2009 made all consensual sex amongst adults illegal where there were more than four people within a 5m radius.

Some clever dick found a loophole though, so it's legal to have multiple threesomes in the presence of someone who is trying to sleep naked. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They're right.

The Multi-Partner Penetration Act of 2009 made all consensual sex amongst adults illegal where there were more than four people within a 5m radius.

Some clever dick found a loophole though, so it's legal to have multiple threesomes in the presence of someone who is trying to sleep naked. "

Absolute stonker of an answer and seems OP fell for it.

I do like the sound of multiple threesomes though.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"We are not charging entry just asking everyone who attends to bring a gift part of the fantasy "

A "gift"?

Are you providing a list, like a wedding list?

Is there an expected price range?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

common sense = consensual sexual activities that involve adults only and don't involve animals and are shared not charged for will not be illegal, m x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The way I understand is that if there are two or more women under the same roof having sex and money (for any reason) has changed hands, then in the eyes of the law the building becomes a brothel, which is illegal. I suspect if a hotel room is being used and a contribution to the cost of booking the room is asked for, it could be a grey area, but anyone charging a general entry fee (lol) could be falling foul of the law.

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By *relanddirectMan
over a year ago

cheshire

It is not illegal and there are only a number of standard charges which could be brought, for example indecent exposure, public order offences, public decency offences. In order for any of those offences to apply someone would a) need to be offended and b) make a complaint. I'm not sure how this would be be possible if it's in a private venue with invited guests only

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"The way I understand is that if there are two or more women under the same roof having sex and money (for any reason) has changed hands, then in the eyes of the law the building becomes a brothel, which is illegal. I suspect if a hotel room is being used and a contribution to the cost of booking the room is asked for, it could be a grey area, but anyone charging a general entry fee (lol) could be falling foul of the law. "

Interesting answer. I'm no legal eagle but it sounds about right.

So where does that put a swinger club?

It charges an entry fee so money changes hands, and (hopefully) more than one woman would be having sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting and some top tips.

Love the multiple 3 sum idea .

The naked person sleeping gets rocked to sleep lol ......,,,,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They're right.

The Multi-Partner Penetration Act of 2009 made all consensual sex amongst adults illegal where there were more than four people within a 5m radius.

Some clever dick found a loophole though, so it's legal to have multiple threesomes in the presence of someone who is trying to sleep naked. "

Got to love these made up laws.....perhaps we could start a thread making some more up?

There are some stonkers in some of the more "southern" United States .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The way I understand is that if there are two or more women under the same roof having sex and money (for any reason) has changed hands, then in the eyes of the law the building becomes a brothel, which is illegal. I suspect if a hotel room is being used and a contribution to the cost of booking the room is asked for, it could be a grey area, but anyone charging a general entry fee (lol) could be falling foul of the law.

Interesting answer. I'm no legal eagle but it sounds about right.

So where does that put a swinger club?

It charges an entry fee so money changes hands, and (hopefully) more than one woman would be having sex."

I don't know the answer to this, it has always fascinated me though. I suspect that the club gets round it by not being responsible for the actions of it's clients...they just provide drinks and 'socialising rooms'.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"They're right.

The Multi-Partner Penetration Act of 2009 made all consensual sex amongst adults illegal where there were more than four people within a 5m radius.

Some clever dick found a loophole though, so it's legal to have multiple threesomes in the presence of someone who is trying to sleep naked.

Got to love these made up laws.....perhaps we could start a thread making some more up?

There are some stonkers in some of the more "southern" United States ."

I always liked the old Carry On gag on SET (selective employment tax) from the 60's They called it "sex enjoyment tax.

Oh shit delete this post it might give someone ideas

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"The way I understand is that if there are two or more women under the same roof having sex and money (for any reason) has changed hands, then in the eyes of the law the building becomes a brothel, which is illegal. I suspect if a hotel room is being used and a contribution to the cost of booking the room is asked for, it could be a grey area, but anyone charging a general entry fee (lol) could be falling foul of the law.

Interesting answer. I'm no legal eagle but it sounds about right.

So where does that put a swinger club?

It charges an entry fee so money changes hands, and (hopefully) more than one woman would be having sex."

But the women don't get the money, do they?

Just like when guys pay for a room and have sex with a woman in that room, she isn't getting the money; the hotel is. So are hotel chains, pimps?

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By *relanddirectMan
over a year ago

cheshire

Guys, I don't want to bore you all with the various types of case law but I'm a lawyer (barrister) and can assure you there is nothing illegal. Unless you do something that offends public decency in which case u obviously need to do it publicly. Clubs are licences and have been through the planning process. There are very few sexual acts that are criminal these day with the (animals etc) so u a re left with public order offences, consenting adults in private does not give rise to any potential charge

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By *hechairman18Man
over a year ago

Salford Quays , Manchester

The above quoted Act, was probably handed down by the EU.

Which is one more good reason, to be leaving.

Good job I have never charged any Fee's, at any of the GangBangs,I have organised and hosted.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
Forum Mod
over a year ago

My Own Little World


"We are not charging entry just asking everyone who attends to bring a gift part of the fantasy "

A "gift"!?

So if a bloke brought you a Mars bar that would be OK?

Or are you expecting something a bit more expensive to get round the having sex with my Mrs for money angle?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"We are not charging entry just asking everyone who attends to bring a gift part of the fantasy

A "gift"!?

So if a bloke brought you a Mars bar that would be OK?

Or are you expecting something a bit more expensive to get round the having sex with my Mrs for money angle?

"

Gold, Frankincense and myrrh!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They're right.

The Multi-Partner Penetration Act of 2009 made all consensual sex amongst adults illegal where there were more than four people within a 5m radius.

Some clever dick found a loophole though, so it's legal to have multiple threesomes in the presence of someone who is trying to sleep naked.

"
Op hook line and sinker.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We are not charging entry just asking everyone who attends to bring a gift part of the fantasy

A "gift"?

Are you providing a list, like a wedding list?

Is there an expected price range? "

No completely up to them

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We are not charging entry just asking everyone who attends to bring a gift part of the fantasy

A "gift"!?

So if a bloke brought you a Mars bar that would be OK?

Or are you expecting something a bit more expensive to get round the having sex with my Mrs for money angle?

If they brought as mars bar that's fine as we said it's completely up to them and a mars bar would help her keep her strength up lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The above quoted Act, was probably handed down by the EU.

Which is one more good reason, to be leaving.

Good job I have never charged any Fee's, at any of the GangBangs,I have organised and hosted."

Wilts.....your made up law has made my day....ignoring the snot bubbles I laughed into my coffee.....the number of people who fell for it is crazy....well done dude!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The way I understand is that if there are two or more women under the same roof having sex and money (for any reason) has changed hands, then in the eyes of the law the building becomes a brothel, which is illegal. I suspect if a hotel room is being used and a contribution to the cost of booking the room is asked for, it could be a grey area, but anyone charging a general entry fee (lol) could be falling foul of the law.

Interesting answer. I'm no legal eagle but it sounds about right.

So where does that put a swinger club?

It charges an entry fee so money changes hands, and (hopefully) more than one woman would be having sex.

I don't know the answer to this, it has always fascinated me though. I suspect that the club gets round it by not being responsible for the actions of it's clients...they just provide drinks and 'socialising rooms'."

I believe its something to do with liscences

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The above quoted Act, was probably handed down by the EU.

Which is one more good reason, to be leaving.

Good job I have never charged any Fee's, at any of the GangBangs,I have organised and hosted.

Wilts.....your made up law has made my day....ignoring the snot bubbles I laughed into my coffee.....the number of people who fell for it is crazy....well done dude!"

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"We are hosting our first gangbang one of our fab friends has said it's illegal we want to know if this is true "

Just be wary of the guy in the pinstripe suit with a clipboard taking notes, and wearing a flower to hide his video camera

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


"We are hosting our first gangbang one of our fab friends has said it's illegal we want to know if this is true "

Like a singers house party it's classed as a brothel if you charge a fee.

Of course you don't want to be out of pocket so say it's a film shoot even if you don't have a camera on the day, you can charge for model & venue fee''s & it's 100% legal unlike paid swingers/gang bang/bukkake parties.

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


"We are hosting our first gangbang one of our fab friends has said it's illegal we want to know if this is true

Like a singers house party it's classed as a brothel if you charge a fee.

Of course you don't want to be out of pocket so say it's a film shoot even if you don't have a camera on the day, you can charge for model & venue fee''s & it's 100% legal unlike paid swingers/gang bang/bukkake parties."

Bloody predictive texts lol "swingers not singers" lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Guys, I don't want to bore you all with the various types of case law but I'm a lawyer (barrister) and can assure you there is nothing illegal. Unless you do something that offends public decency in which case u obviously need to do it publicly. Clubs are licences and have been through the planning process. There are very few sexual acts that are criminal these day with the (animals etc) so u a re left with public order offences, consenting adults in private does not give rise to any potential charge "

Turns me on when you get all official

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By *ndebs47Couple
over a year ago

Bury

Bloody hell 5 miles seems a bit unreasonable.....??

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By *illdeeCouple
over a year ago

St Andrews this week


"We are hosting our first gangbang one of our fab friends has said it's illegal we want to know if this is true

Like a singers house party it's classed as a brothel if you charge a fee.

Of course you don't want to be out of pocket so say it's a film shoot even if you don't have a camera on the day, you can charge for model & venue fee''s & it's 100% legal unlike paid swingers/gang bang/bukkake parties."

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

So the club local to me that keeps advertising gang bangs ...no membership . But an entry fee is illegal .....blimey who would of thought it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So the club local to me that keeps advertising gang bangs ...no membership . But an entry fee is illegal .....blimey who would of thought it "

No....entry is to the club.....simple really.

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

I would think it's illegal to sell sex but not illegal to sell entrance to an insured venue.

I could be way out though.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

The lawyer who posted has it right.

A swingers club which charges entry/membership fees is perfectly fine and not a brothel. The money is not going to the guests in exchange for sex, it goes to the club.

Same if you organise a house party or hotel meet and collect reasonable costs to cover room rental, refreshments etc.

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

So the girls are having sex ... and not getting paid for having sex ....

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


"The lawyer who posted has it right.

A swingers club which charges entry/membership fees is perfectly fine and not a brothel. The money is not going to the guests in exchange for sex, it goes to the club.

Same if you organise a house party or hotel meet and collect reasonable costs to cover room rental, refreshments etc. "

This Lawyer as it wrong guys even mortgage companies stipulate that it in breach if used for illicit purposes, inadvertently check with your local council as rules vary on licenced bars in swinging clubs up North are different to down south where selling of alcohol is prohibited in swinging clubs so local councils could differ.

Could the Lawyer privately send me details saying this is not against the law so i can recheck it through my police friends as this is a new one on me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not Illegal Mate as Long as you are real and not using someone's apartment with out his or her consent, go ahead and arrange ur Gang bang hope you will defo enjoy it..Hope this will help?

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

No offence is committed unless two or more women under the same roof are being directly paid for sexual seevices.

Consenting adults partaking in gangbangs are safe.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

"Illicit purposes" means peostitution, not having some blokes round for a gangbang.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""Illicit purposes" means peostitution, not having some blokes round for a gangbang."

But if the man is arranging the gang bang and asking for payment to have sex with the woman, he is pimping her, and the law doesn't allow that. Best thing to do is not ask for any money and have it at home.

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


""Illicit purposes" means peostitution, not having some blokes round for a gangbang."

There is no difference lol, money being taken for implied sex or actual sex is still immoral earnings no matter how much its glammed up.

Paying for sex is legal with one woman in that said property but if there are 2 woman or more it becomes a brothel even if the other women dont partake in any sexual practice.

As I said check if it bothers you if not carry on & have your party.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

A gangbang, organised or otherwise, is not illegal. Reasonable costs can be recouped such as a club charging an entrance fee or private individuals making reasonable costs for accommodation.

If the women present are paid for their time or services, then that would be potentially an offence.

But people organising gangbangs because they enjoy being gangbanged....is not in any way illegal.

The lawyer said it best.

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


"A gangbang, organised or otherwise, is not illegal. Reasonable costs can be recouped such as a club charging an entrance fee or private individuals making reasonable costs for accommodation.

If the women present are paid for their time or services, then that would be potentially an offence.

But people organising gangbangs because they enjoy being gangbanged....is not in any way illegal.

The lawyer said it best. "

Any joker can say they are a lawyer its Fab lol, if he copies & pastes the documentation that its legal i will hold my hands up & say I'm wrong...if he is a lawyer.

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


"A gangbang, organised or otherwise, is not illegal. Reasonable costs can be recouped such as a club charging an entrance fee or private individuals making reasonable costs for accommodation.

If the women present are paid for their time or services, then that would be potentially an offence.

But people organising gangbangs because they enjoy being gangbanged....is not in any way illegal.

The lawyer said it best. "

Clubs pay licenses & have insurance unlike private house parties so its not the same.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

It is not illegal to host or partake in a gangbang.

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


"It is not illegal to host or partake in a gangbang."

As long as no money changes hands no its perfectly legal no one is saying any different.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

The OP did not mention any charges. Just that they want to hold a gangbang and someone said to them that it was illegal. Can't see why it would be illegal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

gifts in exchange for sex is a superset of prostitution. didn't know that until today.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"I would think it's illegal to sell sex but not illegal to sell entrance to an insured venue.

I could be way out though."
it is not illegal to pay for or take payment for sex but it is is illegal to advertise or seek to pay for sex .prostitution is not illegal advertising as a prostitute even by walking in a red light zone is as is kerb crawling .

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By *angbang junkieCouple
over a year ago

Ilkeston

We have 3 policemen and 2 barristers, that come to ours, no it is not, don't be daft.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

are the gifts registered for VAT purposes as gifts no longer allowed /tax deductible....

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By *annooWoman
over a year ago

Hastings

good question OP i had heard different things about legal issues with gang bangs too

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea


"are the gifts registered for VAT purposes as gifts no longer allowed /tax deductible...."

We know this from experience when a group shoot we were doing was raided by police & tax officers, because it was a film shoot the police couldn't do nothing but the tax people wanted our tax code & books to look through.

Our details were give over by AW as the police were investigating about a 30 women & couples at the time doing parties/gang bangs/bukkakes etc, it was the police that explained the laws to us.

This is why documentation from the lawyer on this would be good as people we know got a lot of hassle at the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A gangbang, organised or otherwise, is not illegal. Reasonable costs can be recouped such as a club charging an entrance fee or private individuals making reasonable costs for accommodation.

If the women present are paid for their time or services, then that would be potentially an offence.

But people organising gangbangs because they enjoy being gangbanged....is not in any way illegal.

The lawyer said it best. "

That lawyer didn't set it out as well as you do.

It's illegal to run a brothel, that is, to have more than one sex worker under the same roof who is paid or forced to have sex. Regardless of the amount.

Anything else is legal. (apart from bestiality , offending piblic morals, etc).

Swingers clubs do not guarantee sex and don't charge per se for sex. Although, grey area here, some of them trully have paid prostitutes to entertain the guests and if proven, this could lead to prosecution.

In ideal case scenario, consenting adults engage in adult activities. That's all. How much they pay at the door, is immaterial.

Conversely, one woman can legally charge for sex services. Just one. If they are two or more, it becomes a brothel.

If someone else pimps her, this will be illegal prostitution.

In other words, you can sell your body, but not in collaboration with others and you shouldn't be pimped up by another.

Swingers clubs maintain that noone sells or procures sex, but everyone is there for enjoyment only.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How would it be illegal? Are they going to write tickets for unlawful carnal knowledge?

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