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"Hi guys thanks for the replys. We just think it's a bit to personal to kiss at this stage of our swinging experience we would do oral not sure why that was on our profile that we would not ha. We will put a higher age range see if that helps. Do you think it puts people of that we are so new at this and people are after a better night than teaching newbies x" Wouldn't put us off atall. The restrictions in play would though. We enjoy relaxed fun where everyone is happy. We've found that the more restrictions the more likely someone is to get upset. But having said that we were exactky the same when we first started so you just have to find your own way. I good club like the vanilla alternative where you can go at your own pace will help you guys settle in a lot better than a website. I appreciate it's nerve racking that first time but it is very much worth taking the plunge and meeting genuine people face to face. We're there tonight if you fancy being daring lol We actually love introducing people to the scene lol. | |||
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"Hi thanks again. Ye we both understand where u guys are coming from. We have actually been to a club before and we loved it, were going again next Saturday! We would like to find people who are vanilla like us and we can go through the experience together as couples and make friends like that. We find it quite intimidating when other couples n singles have been doing it for years etc we feel it puts added pressure on us to do stuff n perform where if we could meet someone similar to us and up for a bit of experimenting every now n then that be better. Do u guys think we're going about it right or wrong? X" It's about meeting the right people that suit you guys. Experience is irrelevant in our opinion. Sometimes it helps that people have some. For example we always used to struggle getting things going, even though we may have both been dying to play. Now if we get that vibe off another couple we'll simply ask if they'd like a dip in the hot tub or if they're brave enough to come and explore the play areas with us. The amount of people that have said 'thank God you've asked we didn't know how to!' Clubs are great for meeting genuine people if it's the right club with the right vibe. Just look for relaxed people: Do you fancy them. Are they chilled out. Do they make you feel comfortable and are they fun. Are they respectful and of the fact we are new. Just go out and have fun. If you find more then be happy exploring it. Don't worry about how you are doing it. Just try your very hardest to relax and have fun and the rest will follow. | |||
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"Hi guys thanks for the replys. We just think it's a bit to personal to kiss at this stage of our swinging experience we would do oral not sure why that was on our profile that we would not ha. We will put a higher age range see if that helps. Do you think it puts people of that we are so new at this and people are after a better night than teaching newbies x" It's funny I found it the other way round. I needed to start slow, and wasn't immediately comfortable with sex. In fact our early rule was no 'below waist'. But kissing and fondling was easy. I think I needed to have that 'teenage' style snog and grope, just to get me used to being with a man other than my husband after 10 years of monogamy. The kissing was a very important stepping stone towards eventually having extra marital sexual experiences. Mrs | |||
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"Hi guys thanks for the replys. We just think it's a bit to personal to kiss at this stage of our swinging experience we would do oral not sure why that was on our profile that we would not ha. We will put a higher age range see if that helps. Do you think it puts people of that we are so new at this and people are after a better night than teaching newbies x It's funny I found it the other way round. I needed to start slow, and wasn't immediately comfortable with sex. In fact our early rule was no 'below waist'. But kissing and fondling was easy. I think I needed to have that 'teenage' style snog and grope, just to get me used to being with a man other than my husband after 10 years of monogamy. The kissing was a very important stepping stone towards eventually having extra marital sexual experiences. Mrs " Never looked at it like that but it does make sense | |||
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"I don't understand how you can think kissing is too personal? Your going to fuck someone & put their genitals in your mouth. How much more personal can you get? Have you been watching a bit too much 'Pretty Woman'? Kissing is a basic body language tool & taste is one of the 5 basic senses so generally, people want to kiss. Are you saying it's ok for someone to use their mouth on your body - nipples, cock/balls, pussy, back, thighs etc but you draw the line at mouth to mouth? Because that doesn't make a lot of sense ... and makes you sound a little bit uptight. Also, age range is really narrow so that won't help... If your boundaries are set in stone then that's your call, but the more boundaries you have, the harder it will be to find someone. Looks like you've been on about the same as us, so don't think the newness is the issue Hope that helps x" Ye pretty woman is one of our favourite films ha not Adams family anyway. mmm listening to u guys about kissing we know what your saying we just think that should be for when your making love to the person you love not the person you are having a bit of fun with. You can get just as excited touching and kissing the body than you can kissing lips. | |||
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"The "no kissing" people we tend to avoid we've heard all the arguments "it's for lovemaking" "it's too intimate" etc etc and lots of other reasons, all hiding the real reasons however in OUR experience it's generally couples with jealousy issues that don't want to see each other being passionate & intimate with others, so for two main reasons we avoid 1. The issues mentioned 2. We don't want mechanical sport fucking" But they said they we new! - give them time to develop into it. They will find their own pace in time. | |||
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"You are into rimming strangers yet kissing them is too intimate? Sally" its their preference. Personally i dont like to kiss other men as it doesn't do it for me. | |||
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"mmm listening to u guys about kissing we know what your saying we just think that should be for when your making love to the person you love not the person you are having a bit of fun with. You can get just as excited touching and kissing the body than you can kissing lips. " For us, the act of kissing someone on the lips isn't a love act. It only becomes so when you kiss someone you love. Since it's impossible to love a stranger, swinging kisses are really just part of good play, letting your playmate know you desire them... something we all like to feel when getting sexy. Efforts to push people away can be a bit degrading, turning them into sex toys, and unnecessary in our opinion. We're new to this like you. But we decided to keep our rules to the minimum and figure out what we didn't like by giving it a try. So far we've been pleasantly surprised that everything has been quite tame and fun. So I wouldn't make a mountain out of a mole hill. Sure, some things aren't worth trying as they might burn onto your retina and you'll never be able to get them off (rimming a d*unken old tramp?!?) But if seeing your partner fucking someone isn't one of those things for you, seeing them having a good old snog whilst they writhe about in pleasure probably won't be either. Above all, however, you know what makes you uncomfortable and if that's kissing then so be it. There's no point doing anything you're uncomfortable with... So the above is just our take on things Good luck | |||
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"I don't understand how you can think kissing is too personal? Your going to fuck someone & put their genitals in your mouth. How much more personal can you get? Have you been watching a bit too much 'Pretty Woman'? Kissing is a basic body language tool & taste is one of the 5 basic senses so generally, people want to kiss. Are you saying it's ok for someone to use their mouth on your body - nipples, cock/balls, pussy, back, thighs etc but you draw the line at mouth to mouth? Because that doesn't make a lot of sense ... and makes you sound a little bit uptight. Also, age range is really narrow so that won't help... If your boundaries are set in stone then that's your call, but the more boundaries you have, the harder it will be to find someone. Looks like you've been on about the same as us, so don't think the newness is the issue Hope that helps x Ye pretty woman is one of our favourite films ha not Adams family anyway. mmm listening to u guys about kissing we know what your saying we just think that should be for when your making love to the person you love not the person you are having a bit of fun with. You can get just as excited touching and kissing the body than you can kissing lips. " Don't agree with that at all . Kissing is an essential part of foreplay for us . We treat every meet as a pleasurable experience for ourselves and those we meet . That experience is nowhere near as good without kissing . And as another couple said , it's always a concern when the no kissing rule comes up , it reeks of insecurity . | |||
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"Hi thanks again. Ye we both understand where u guys are coming from. We have actually been to a club before and we loved it, were going again next Saturday! We would like to find people who are vanilla like us and we can go through the experience together as couples and make friends like that. We find it quite intimidating when other couples n singles have been doing it for years etc we feel it puts added pressure on us to do stuff n perform where if we could meet someone similar to us and up for a bit of experimenting every now n then that be better. Do u guys think we're going about it right or wrong? X" Just because someone may have been around for a while don't think that equals a lot of meets/experience or "hardened swinger" | |||
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