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"Ask them directly... I never mind answering. I also get NHS texts which indicates I am clear. If they get offended then you need to consider if you should meet them. " That's a fair point, we'll just ask then! If they do get offended, it'll let us know that safe sex isn't as important to them as it is to us. If someone is untruthful, we'd at least catch it early with regular testing. Thanks for the advice everyone x | |||
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"Not sure what difference asking makes, as you still have to rely on the truthfulness of their response" Because: 1. Not everyone will lie 2. Of those who do lie, not all of them will do so convincingly Therefore it's a simple filter that doesn't hurt | |||
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" If they do get offended, it'll let us know that safe sex isn't as important to them as it is to us. x" Ermm. Safe sex ... condoms! !! I've never discussed test results but that doesn't mean I don't have safe sex | |||
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"Straight up ask. It's my 2nd question if I'm planning to meet someone. I don't give a toss if they don't like it as I'm safeguarding myself. I always make sure the clinic sends me text confirmation too every 6mo when I test as proof. Too many horror stories on here to risk it." Horror stories? | |||
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"You can just ask, but how will you know you are getting an honest answer. " You don't actually need an honest answer for the question to be worthwhile. In our experience, about a third of people won't even answer it. Unless you suppose they are people who do get tested but won't admit it, then that's a pretty useful filter in itself. | |||
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"If you intend to sleep with someone, then you surely need to be assertive enough to ask what you need to ask. That aside .... like people have said a) trust their answer ? b) you are going to wear confirms anyway? Good luck and have 'safe fun' X " Lets be clear though, testing is not a substitute for condoms. That would be silly given the limitations of testing. But condoms cannot stop things like genital warts anyway so why people don't think they need both is beyond my understanding of logic. | |||
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"Why put yourself in that situation in the beginning.. Ofcourse you will get a "we are tested regularly and clean" response anyway if you ask... who would respond no we are not tested and may have a disease. " Have you tried? In our experience a third of people tell you to fuck off in various words. | |||
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"Why put yourself in that situation in the beginning.. Ofcourse you will get a "we are tested regularly and clean" response anyway if you ask... who would respond no we are not tested and may have a disease. Have you tried? In our experience a third of people tell you to fuck off in various words. " I have never asked and dont intend to. I make my own decisions about my own safety and not by what others tell me | |||
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"Why put yourself in that situation in the beginning.. Ofcourse you will get a "we are tested regularly and clean" response anyway if you ask... who would respond no we are not tested and may have a disease. Have you tried? In our experience a third of people tell you to fuck off in various words. I have never asked and dont intend to. I make my own decisions about my own safety and not by what others tell me" I'm not telling you to do anything, simply pointing out that your assumption that "of course you will get a 'we are tested regularly and clean' " isn't correct. | |||
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"We're new to swinging but always use condoms with each other. We're happy to get regularly tested though. How do you ask the other couple or single if they've been tested? We wouldn't want to seem rude or offend anyone " We always use condoms and we would not be offended if asked via message | |||
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"I wouldn't be offended if asked. I get tested and always play safer and use condoms. Wouldn't be able to provide proof though as my clinic doesn't send texts, I have to ring for results and they are given over the phone. Think I could get a certificate but would have to pay quite a lot" Same here with gp | |||
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"Why put yourself in that situation in the beginning.. Ofcourse you will get a "we are tested regularly and clean" response anyway if you ask... who would respond no we are not tested and may have a disease. Have you tried? In our experience a third of people tell you to fuck off in various words. I have never asked and dont intend to. I make my own decisions about my own safety and not by what others tell me I'm not telling you to do anything, simply pointing out that your assumption that "of course you will get a 'we are tested regularly and clean' " isn't correct. " Knew what you meant.. | |||
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"We're new to swinging but always use condoms with each other. We're happy to get regularly tested though. How do you ask the other couple or single if they've been tested? We wouldn't want to seem rude or offend anyone " Most will lie and say they get tested regularly if they think its gonna get them laid. People lie you have to make your own judgements. | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. " A filter doesn't have to be perfect to be useful. | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. A filter doesn't have to be perfect to be useful. " It gives a false sense of security. | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. A filter doesn't have to be perfect to be useful. It gives a false sense of security. " As opposed to a perfect sense of insecurity? You understand that asking about testing isn't an invitation to bareback? | |||
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"I just put this on another thread, i dont really see the point in asking if you ask someone that question most people will say yes anyway whether its true or not" What are you basing that on? In our experience most people do not say yes. | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. A filter doesn't have to be perfect to be useful. It gives a false sense of security. As opposed to a perfect sense of insecurity? You understand that asking about testing isn't an invitation to bareback? " Totally. We also understand that not all clinics test for all STIs, that condoms do not provide 100% protection, and that there is no way of knowing what others have been doing. In our view the sensible approach is to assume that anyone may be carrying an STI, decide what level of risk you are willing to take with regard to using protection and get yourself tested regularly. It's a waste of time worrying about others. | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. A filter doesn't have to be perfect to be useful. It gives a false sense of security. As opposed to a perfect sense of insecurity? You understand that asking about testing isn't an invitation to bareback? Totally. We also understand that not all clinics test for all STIs, that condoms do not provide 100% protection, and that there is no way of knowing what others have been doing. In our view the sensible approach is to assume that anyone may be carrying an STI, decide what level of risk you are willing to take with regard to using protection and get yourself tested regularly. It's a waste of time worrying about others." So you don't think that a couple who did get regular tests would be a generally lower risk group than those who don't? You know the statistic that a quarter of HIV positive people don't know they have it right? | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. A filter doesn't have to be perfect to be useful. It gives a false sense of security. As opposed to a perfect sense of insecurity? You understand that asking about testing isn't an invitation to bareback? Totally. We also understand that not all clinics test for all STIs, that condoms do not provide 100% protection, and that there is no way of knowing what others have been doing. In our view the sensible approach is to assume that anyone may be carrying an STI, decide what level of risk you are willing to take with regard to using protection and get yourself tested regularly. It's a waste of time worrying about others. So you don't think that a couple who did get regular tests would be a generally lower risk group than those who don't? You know the statistic that a quarter of HIV positive people don't know they have it right? " if they dont know they have how the hell do the stats folk know a quarter of them havent | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. A filter doesn't have to be perfect to be useful. It gives a false sense of security. As opposed to a perfect sense of insecurity? You understand that asking about testing isn't an invitation to bareback? Totally. We also understand that not all clinics test for all STIs, that condoms do not provide 100% protection, and that there is no way of knowing what others have been doing. In our view the sensible approach is to assume that anyone may be carrying an STI, decide what level of risk you are willing to take with regard to using protection and get yourself tested regularly. It's a waste of time worrying about others. So you don't think that a couple who did get regular tests would be a generally lower risk group than those who don't? You know the statistic that a quarter of HIV positive people don't know they have it right? if they dont know they have how the hell do the stats folk know a quarter of them havent " Take a representative sample and extrapolate the results... | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. A filter doesn't have to be perfect to be useful. It gives a false sense of security. As opposed to a perfect sense of insecurity? You understand that asking about testing isn't an invitation to bareback? Totally. We also understand that not all clinics test for all STIs, that condoms do not provide 100% protection, and that there is no way of knowing what others have been doing. In our view the sensible approach is to assume that anyone may be carrying an STI, decide what level of risk you are willing to take with regard to using protection and get yourself tested regularly. It's a waste of time worrying about others. So you don't think that a couple who did get regular tests would be a generally lower risk group than those who don't? You know the statistic that a quarter of HIV positive people don't know they have it right? " you dont not get things because you get tested. You keep yourself as safe as you can and by going for regular check ups it can be treated as quickly and easily as possible in most cases | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. A filter doesn't have to be perfect to be useful. It gives a false sense of security. As opposed to a perfect sense of insecurity? You understand that asking about testing isn't an invitation to bareback? Totally. We also understand that not all clinics test for all STIs, that condoms do not provide 100% protection, and that there is no way of knowing what others have been doing. In our view the sensible approach is to assume that anyone may be carrying an STI, decide what level of risk you are willing to take with regard to using protection and get yourself tested regularly. It's a waste of time worrying about others. So you don't think that a couple who did get regular tests would be a generally lower risk group than those who don't? You know the statistic that a quarter of HIV positive people don't know they have it right? you dont not get things because you get tested. You keep yourself as safe as you can and by going for regular check ups it can be treated as quickly and easily as possible in most cases" I'd like to think that people who were aware they had something would be likely to stop playing while it was treated. If you don't know then you don't even have the ability to do that. | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. A filter doesn't have to be perfect to be useful. It gives a false sense of security. As opposed to a perfect sense of insecurity? You understand that asking about testing isn't an invitation to bareback? Totally. We also understand that not all clinics test for all STIs, that condoms do not provide 100% protection, and that there is no way of knowing what others have been doing. In our view the sensible approach is to assume that anyone may be carrying an STI, decide what level of risk you are willing to take with regard to using protection and get yourself tested regularly. It's a waste of time worrying about others. So you don't think that a couple who did get regular tests would be a generally lower risk group than those who don't? You know the statistic that a quarter of HIV positive people don't know they have it right? you dont not get things because you get tested. You keep yourself as safe as you can and by going for regular check ups it can be treated as quickly and easily as possible in most cases I'd like to think that people who were aware they had something would be likely to stop playing while it was treated. If you don't know then you don't even have the ability to do that. " but how do we ever actually know. We can only look after ourselves not others. | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. A filter doesn't have to be perfect to be useful. It gives a false sense of security. As opposed to a perfect sense of insecurity? You understand that asking about testing isn't an invitation to bareback? Totally. We also understand that not all clinics test for all STIs, that condoms do not provide 100% protection, and that there is no way of knowing what others have been doing. In our view the sensible approach is to assume that anyone may be carrying an STI, decide what level of risk you are willing to take with regard to using protection and get yourself tested regularly. It's a waste of time worrying about others. So you don't think that a couple who did get regular tests would be a generally lower risk group than those who don't? You know the statistic that a quarter of HIV positive people don't know they have it right? you dont not get things because you get tested. You keep yourself as safe as you can and by going for regular check ups it can be treated as quickly and easily as possible in most cases I'd like to think that people who were aware they had something would be likely to stop playing while it was treated. If you don't know then you don't even have the ability to do that. but how do we ever actually know. We can only look after ourselves not others. " As I say, a filter doesn't need to be perfect to be useful. | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. " Exactly, I really don't see the point in asking anyone, it's just pointless. My view is regard everyone as riddled as fuck and protect yourself to the level your happy with | |||
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"We're new to swinging but always use condoms with each other. We're happy to get regularly tested though. How do you ask the other couple or single if they've been tested? We wouldn't want to seem rude or offend anyone " Unless you want to see some written proof they have been tested then you can never be sure so it would just be based on trust | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. " That is true but at least they get tested. There are those that think condoms are the silver bullet. They say "I always play safe so dont need to go to the clinic" - that is more dangerous in my book. But as with all these things its a case of what is the risk and reward. | |||
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"We're new to swinging but always use condoms with each other. We're happy to get regularly tested though. How do you ask the other couple or single if they've been tested? We wouldn't want to seem rude or offend anyone " You could ask but would they tell you truth? | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. That is true but at least they get tested. There are those that think condoms are the silver bullet. They say "I always play safe so dont need to go to the clinic" - that is more dangerous in my book. But as with all these things its a case of what is the risk and reward. " They may also be lying about having been tested. | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. That is true but at least they get tested. There are those that think condoms are the silver bullet. They say "I always play safe so dont need to go to the clinic" - that is more dangerous in my book. But as with all these things its a case of what is the risk and reward. They may also be lying about having been tested." I get texts. It is possible to get a piece of paper. No proof no fuck. At the end of the day you either play or not. | |||
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" I get texts. It is possible to get a piece of paper. No proof no fuck. At the end of the day you either play or not. " What proof is there that the result on this piece of paper still holds true.... There isn't any, they could have been creampied by the diseased & riddled brigade well before this piece of paper even got near the printer, nevermind being posted etc but if a piece of paper makes people feel better then good for them | |||
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"Waste of time asking in our opinion, they could have gone straight from the clinic to a bareback gangbang. Exactly, I really don't see the point in asking anyone, it's just pointless. My view is regard everyone as riddled as fuck and protect yourself to the level your happy with " | |||
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" I get texts. It is possible to get a piece of paper. No proof no fuck. At the end of the day you either play or not. What proof is there that the result on this piece of paper still holds true.... There isn't any, they could have been creampied by the diseased & riddled brigade well before this piece of paper even got near the printer, nevermind being posted etc but if a piece of paper makes people feel better then good for them " It's irrelevant. You've got a choice between fucking someone who definitely didn't have HIV 3 months ago or fucking someone who might have HIV. | |||
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" I get texts. It is possible to get a piece of paper. No proof no fuck. At the end of the day you either play or not. What proof is there that the result on this piece of paper still holds true.... There isn't any, they could have been creampied by the diseased & riddled brigade well before this piece of paper even got near the printer, nevermind being posted etc but if a piece of paper makes people feel better then good for them It's irrelevant. You've got a choice between fucking someone who definitely didn't have HIV 3 months ago or fucking someone who might have HIV. " You're right, the piece of paper IS totally irrelevant. | |||
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" I get texts. It is possible to get a piece of paper. No proof no fuck. At the end of the day you either play or not. What proof is there that the result on this piece of paper still holds true.... There isn't any, they could have been creampied by the diseased & riddled brigade well before this piece of paper even got near the printer, nevermind being posted etc but if a piece of paper makes people feel better then good for them It's irrelevant. You've got a choice between fucking someone who definitely didn't have HIV 3 months ago or fucking someone who might have HIV. You're right, the piece of paper IS totally irrelevant." No, that's what proves didn't have HIV 3 months ago | |||
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"Why put yourself in that situation in the beginning.. Ofcourse you will get a "we are tested regularly and clean" response anyway if you ask... who would respond no we are not tested and may have a disease. Have you tried? In our experience a third of people tell you to fuck off in various words. " Yep, that has been my experience too. Janie x | |||
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"Why put yourself in that situation in the beginning.. Ofcourse you will get a "we are tested regularly and clean" response anyway if you ask... who would respond no we are not tested and may have a disease. Have you tried? In our experience a third of people tell you to fuck off in various words. Yep, that has been my experience too. Janie x" Exactly, so many people just say the first thing that comes into their head - "oh they could lie to you". If a third won't even answer the question then that's a pretty good filter even if all of the rest were lying!! | |||
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"To be honest I can't see the point in even asking. I mean seriously. What answer are you expecting? "Yes I was tested last week and oops I have gonorrhea" "No I never get tested cos I don't care" If you bother asking the question I can assure you the answer will ALWAYS be along the lines of - "Of course I get tested regularly and I am clean" That might even be true but relying on a person's honesty on this issue is foolish. " If you read the thread before you post then you won't repeat falsehoods so easily | |||
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"To be honest I can't see the point in even asking. I mean seriously. What answer are you expecting? "Yes I was tested last week and oops I have gonorrhea" "No I never get tested cos I don't care" If you bother asking the question I can assure you the answer will ALWAYS be along the lines of - "Of course I get tested regularly and I am clean" That might even be true but relying on a person's honesty on this issue is foolish. If you read the thread before you post then you won't repeat falsehoods so easily" Pity you can block some people only once. | |||
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"To be honest I can't see the point in even asking. I mean seriously. What answer are you expecting? "Yes I was tested last week and oops I have gonorrhea" "No I never get tested cos I don't care" If you bother asking the question I can assure you the answer will ALWAYS be along the lines of - "Of course I get tested regularly and I am clean" That might even be true but relying on a person's honesty on this issue is foolish. If you read the thread before you post then you won't repeat falsehoods so easily Pity you can block some people only once." OK I'm wrong, don't read the thread and just post the first thing that comes into your head - even if it's already been discredited and makes you look stupid | |||
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