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"Morning guys and girls. I've been on here for just over 6 months as a gold member and am getting nowhere not for the want of trying. Because I'm new to the whole swinging scene I'm not yet ready to go to a club as I've not even had my first meet yet. I'm not looking to just jump in to bed with someone after 2 messages I'd rather get to know the person with a few socials and see how they tick but I'm not getting anywhere and have sent more than enough messages to at least get the occasional reply. Can I have a bit of advice please as this is something I'm serious about but am considering leaving because nothing is happening and there seems to be a lot of time waters. Understandably there are genuine people on here but if I can't get a social how can I get verifications. Thanks in advance " Is exactly like that. Lot's of times waister, and the stupid rules of most people "if you're not verified we/I don't want to meet you" lol Is like company which looking for staff, " max 20 years old and 40 years experience " buhaha Any way you don't do everything wrong, just most of women on here thinking about themselves there's princess but they're not. I'm on fab long time and what I can see the women just complaints about times waister but they're biggest times waister on here. For example, I was started chatting with two of them few weeks ago. Of course everything OK with my pic's, chat etc. Of course they're looking for meet and friends with benefits. After couple of days when we arrange a meet they're stop answer for message. The question is: is so f....hard to say "I'm not interesting anymore" ???? And who is the times waister???? BTW don't worry mate, just keep your profile for fun, nothing else. | |||
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"Morning guys and girls. I've been on here for just over 6 months as a gold member and am getting nowhere not for the want of trying. Because I'm new to the whole swinging scene I'm not yet ready to go to a club as I've not even had my first meet yet. I'm not looking to just jump in to bed with someone after 2 messages I'd rather get to know the person with a few socials and see how they tick but I'm not getting anywhere and have sent more than enough messages to at least get the occasional reply. Can I have a bit of advice please as this is something I'm serious about but am considering leaving because nothing is happening and there seems to be a lot of time waters. Understandably there are genuine people on here but if I can't get a social how can I get verifications. Thanks in advance Is exactly like that. Lot's of times waister, and the stupid rules of most people "if you're not verified we/I don't want to meet you" lol Is like company which looking for staff, " max 20 years old and 40 years experience " buhaha Any way you don't do everything wrong, just most of women on here thinking about themselves there's princess but they're not. I'm on fab long time and what I can see the women just complaints about times waister but they're biggest times waister on here. For example, I was started chatting with two of them few weeks ago. Of course everything OK with my pic's, chat etc. Of course they're looking for meet and friends with benefits. After couple of days when we arrange a meet they're stop answer for message. The question is: is so f....hard to say "I'm not interesting anymore" ???? And who is the times waister???? BTW don't worry mate, just keep your profile for fun, nothing else. " It really makes me laugh sometimes that because we have a choice, we are labelled as 'stuck up', 'snobs', etc, and thus labelled a 'timewaster'! OP: anyway, unfortunately, men on here are outnumbered, thus women have quite a large choice. 'Timewasters' are generally defined as people that you've arranged to meet with, but don't turn up without notifying you. If women go off radar during chatting, it could be down to a number of things: life gets in the way, maybe they decide you're not for them, etc. Most tend to read the profile first (hint, hint), before reading messages. What a lot of people on here don't like is text speak and pushiness for meets when they're not ready. | |||
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"Morning guys and girls. I've been on here for just over 6 months as a gold member and am getting nowhere not for the want of trying. Because I'm new to the whole swinging scene I'm not yet ready to go to a club as I've not even had my first meet yet. I'm not looking to just jump in to bed with someone after 2 messages I'd rather get to know the person with a few socials and see how they tick but I'm not getting anywhere and have sent more than enough messages to at least get the occasional reply. Can I have a bit of advice please as this is something I'm serious about but am considering leaving because nothing is happening and there seems to be a lot of time waters. Understandably there are genuine people on here but if I can't get a social how can I get verifications. Thanks in advance Is exactly like that. Lot's of times waister, and the stupid rules of most people "if you're not verified we/I don't want to meet you" lol Is like company which looking for staff, " max 20 years old and 40 years experience " buhaha Any way you don't do everything wrong, just most of women on here thinking about themselves there's princess but they're not. I'm on fab long time and what I can see the women just complaints about times waister but they're biggest times waister on here. For example, I was started chatting with two of them few weeks ago. Of course everything OK with my pic's, chat etc. Of course they're looking for meet and friends with benefits. After couple of days when we arrange a meet they're stop answer for message. The question is: is so f....hard to say "I'm not interesting anymore" ???? And who is the times waister???? BTW don't worry mate, just keep your profile for fun, nothing else. " Behaving like a spoilt child doesn't help I would steer clear of this advice if I was you | |||
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"Just out of curiosity, I wondered what do you guys regard as time-wasting?" Saying "no thanks " | |||
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"Just out of curiosity, I wondered what do you guys regard as time-wasting?" The couple above already spoke for single men Lol as do so many couples and women....but it's nice to hear someone ask. Now will you accept the answer or will you criticise it and say they're wrong?...just asking before anyone replies. | |||
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"Just out of curiosity, I wondered what do you guys regard as time-wasting? Saying "no thanks "" ....lol...typical but maybe I should tar all couples with the same brush. | |||
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"It's not only the women that are time wasters as some of the men on here are guilty of that too " Don't think anyone has or would disagree.... we're told that everyday in a new post by women and couples. Tared with the same brush in a generalised way by some undiscerning poster. The posters often forget that as they point the finger there's 3 pointing back at themselves. | |||
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"It all boils down to the ratio of single guys to women/couples.The idiots dont help with their one word profiles and awful messages.Op,see some messages couples get for a day and you will understand why some folks either block males or look themselves when the time is right." I have messages most days from couples.... read my profile and ask yourself why did they message? | |||
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"I have messages most days from couples.... read my profile and ask yourself why did they message? " Oh I'd say teasing pictures and something to say about yourself, but I could be wrong | |||
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"I have messages most days from couples.... read my profile and ask yourself why did they message? Oh I'd say teasing pictures and something to say about yourself, but I could be wrong " And clearly says...I'm not interested....not one bit...I so why waste their time....its like if a woman says no single men...I'll just block....no point in wasting my time or hers in searches or appearing in local updates. Now that has annoyed quite a few who say they do that so as not to get too many messages. My reply is you ask us to read your profile...I did and not interested in someone who says that in her profile....maybe she need t adjust your filters better lol. | |||
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"Just out of curiosity, I wondered what do you guys regard as time-wasting? The couple above already spoke for single men Lol as do so many couples and women....but it's nice to hear someone ask. Now will you accept the answer or will you criticise it and say they're wrong?...just asking before anyone replies." I'm not going to accept or criticise the couple's answer, or anybody's for that matter. I'm genuinely curious, as the expression 'time-wasting' gets used rather a lot, and it's something we have minimal experience of on Fab. So I just wondered what different people mean when they talk about tinewasting. I mean maybe we've had our time wasted, and not really noticed. Maybe there are disgruntled people out there who think we are timewasters. I hope not. We've certainly never knowingly messed anyone about, and we always do what we say we are going to do. But others may have a different definition of time-wasting. | |||
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"Could always try a pic that looks less like you're about to rip someone to shreds? " I meant that... glad you said it | |||
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"Could always try a pic that looks less like you're about to rip someone to shreds? I meant that... glad you said it " | |||
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"Best thing I've found is going to clubs and social events, it's the best way go meet people and get you self verified " Fully agree.. But it would be nice to be nice if some 'members of clubs' made friends with the Newbies and offer to take them socialising.. Being a 'Single Man' is daunting even for single men lol and the prices at clubs tend to put you off more... I'm sure if things worked like that it would soon out the time wasters ... Just my tuppence worth lol | |||
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"Could always try a pic that looks less like you're about to rip someone to shreds? I meant that... glad you said it " Is he getting the bulldozer you think? I'm off | |||
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"I've been to the monthly bi night at the VA twice and had some good conversation and fun both times, spose I was just lucky but you just have to throw you self in there, everyone I've met has been very friendly and welcoming " Yep, everyone's being really friendly when I've attended.. | |||
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"Could always try a pic that looks less like you're about to rip someone to shreds? " Oh I like men that look like that There's something kinda horny about getting sucked off by a bit o'rough | |||
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"Could always try a pic that looks less like you're about to rip someone to shreds? Oh I like men that look like that There's something kinda horny about getting sucked off by a bit o'rough " Funny x | |||
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"Could always try a pic that looks less like you're about to rip someone to shreds? Oh I like men that look like that There's something kinda horny about getting sucked off by a bit o'rough " | |||
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"Morning guys and girls. I've been on here for just over 6 months as a gold member and am getting nowhere not for the want of trying. Because I'm new to the whole swinging scene I'm not yet ready to go to a club as I've not even had my first meet yet. I'm not looking to just jump in to bed with someone after 2 messages I'd rather get to know the person with a few socials and see how they tick but I'm not getting anywhere and have sent more than enough messages to at least get the occasional reply. Can I have a bit of advice please as this is something I'm serious about but am considering leaving because nothing is happening and there seems to be a lot of time waters. Understandably there are genuine people on here but if I can't get a social how can I get verifications. Thanks in advance " This site is like most things in life . You only get out what you put in . Single males will need a detailed well written interesting profile combined with good pictures . This gets you to the starting point of the race and you still have to market yourself after that. A good start is attempt to identify what your unique selling points are.. :- | |||
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"It's not only the women that are time wasters as some of the men on here are guilty of that too " We have had our fair share of men time wasters too | |||
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"Morning guys and girls. I've been on here for just over 6 months as a gold member and am getting nowhere not for the want of trying. Because I'm new to the whole swinging scene I'm not yet ready to go to a club as I've not even had my first meet yet. I'm not looking to just jump in to bed with someone after 2 messages I'd rather get to know the person with a few socials and see how they tick but I'm not getting anywhere and have sent more than enough messages to at least get the occasional reply. Can I have a bit of advice please as this is something I'm serious about but am considering leaving because nothing is happening and there seems to be a lot of time waters. Understandably there are genuine people on here but if I can't get a social how can I get verifications. Thanks in advance This site is like most things in life . You only get out what you put in . Single males will need a detailed well written interesting profile combined with good pictures . This gets you to the starting point of the race and you still have to market yourself after that. A good start is attempt to identify what your unique selling points are.. :-" Now we have a Marketing Guru.. Hope there's an App for that | |||
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"Go clubbing less headaches lol" Here is what I can't wrap my head around.. If you're a single guy that can't afford to go to a club or social... What should you do ? If I spend my last dollar on a gold membership and all I can afford is a coffee social... Should I not get a chance of a meet? People always say go to socials and clubs. But for most men it's not possible.... | |||
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"Go clubbing less headaches lol Here is what I can't wrap my head around.. If you're a single guy that can't afford to go to a club or social... What should you do ? If I spend my last dollar on a gold membership and all I can afford is a coffee social... Should I not get a chance of a meet? People always say go to socials and clubs. But for most men it's not possible.... " Why is it not possible to go to an organised social meet in a pub ? Best thing I ever did was just this. Found a local one in the events section and went, pretty easy really. | |||
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"Go clubbing less headaches lol Here is what I can't wrap my head around.. If you're a single guy that can't afford to go to a club or social... What should you do ? If I spend my last dollar on a gold membership and all I can afford is a coffee social... Should I not get a chance of a meet? People always say go to socials and clubs. But for most men it's not possible.... " Organised socials are at the most £5 sadly most single men say that want to go, but never turn up | |||
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"Go clubbing less headaches lol Here is what I can't wrap my head around.. If you're a single guy that can't afford to go to a club or social... What should you do ? If I spend my last dollar on a gold membership and all I can afford is a coffee social... Should I not get a chance of a meet? People always say go to socials and clubs. But for most men it's not possible.... " Make more money you have to kind of invest into this lifestyle to reap the rewards. | |||
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"Go clubbing less headaches lol Here is what I can't wrap my head around.. If you're a single guy that can't afford to go to a club or social... What should you do ? If I spend my last dollar on a gold membership and all I can afford is a coffee social... Should I not get a chance of a meet? People always say go to socials and clubs. But for most men it's not possible.... " As fabio often points out that a lot of guys spend as much or more on a night out in town as they do on a club. I don't have a lot of spare cash right now so if I want to do something, I save for it. My last trip to Xtasia cost me over £300 and was a 360 mile round trip. I do it once or twice a year, if I'm lucky. Don't tell me how getting to a club is "impossible". It's not. | |||
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"Morning guys and girls. I've been on here for just over 6 months as a gold member and am getting nowhere not for the want of trying. Because I'm new to the whole swinging scene I'm not yet ready to go to a club as I've not even had my first meet yet. I'm not looking to just jump in to bed with someone after 2 messages I'd rather get to know the person with a few socials and see how they tick but I'm not getting anywhere and have sent more than enough messages to at least get the occasional reply. Can I have a bit of advice please as this is something I'm serious about but am considering leaving because nothing is happening and there seems to be a lot of time waters. Understandably there are genuine people on here but if I can't get a social how can I get verifications. Thanks in advance This site is like most things in life . You only get out what you put in . Single males will need a detailed well written interesting profile combined with good pictures . This gets you to the starting point of the race and you still have to market yourself after that. A good start is attempt to identify what your unique selling points are.. :- Now we have a Marketing Guru.. Hope there's an App for that " He's talking sense though. Whether anyone accepts the advice is up to them, of course. Good pictures and profile are almost essential to getting meets. A lot of women look at those before deciding whether to even read a message. | |||
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"Find a girl outside the swinging scene...... Get her in to swinging..... Then see how many single guys send you messages Swinging is more fun and easy as a couple " If thats what you are into, yeah its a great move. No shortage of thirsty guys wanting to join a couple. Personally, ive been here three times. Once as a single male, twice with bisexual girlfriends. Got meets as a single guy, not many and not exactly with the cream of the crop, but definitely had more luck. Not a single meet as a couple either with the current GF or the previous one. We got our swinging done through her friends. In both cases as a couple, if you are looking to meet females you are going to struggle, despite the fact that about 80% of the single females on the site have bisexual and seeking couples listed, most are apparently anything but. Not entirely sure why it is this way, i see some of the pics people post up of the people they are playing with and think "Jesus are we really less desirable than those people?" but in the majority of cases it seems to be a clique thing. Popularity trumps attractiveness every time. Which makes it very hard to start out. | |||
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"Morning guys and girls. I've been on here for just over 6 months as a gold member and am getting nowhere not for the want of trying. Because I'm new to the whole swinging scene I'm not yet ready to go to a club as I've not even had my first meet yet. I'm not looking to just jump in to bed with someone after 2 messages I'd rather get to know the person with a few socials and see how they tick but I'm not getting anywhere and have sent more than enough messages to at least get the occasional reply. Can I have a bit of advice please as this is something I'm serious about but am considering leaving because nothing is happening and there seems to be a lot of time waters. Understandably there are genuine people on here but if I can't get a social how can I get verifications. Thanks in advance Is exactly like that. Lot's of times waister, and the stupid rules of most people "if you're not verified we/I don't want to meet you" lol Is like company which looking for staff, " max 20 years old and 40 years experience " buhaha Any way you don't do everything wrong, just most of women on here thinking about themselves there's princess but they're not. I'm on fab long time and what I can see the women just complaints about times waister but they're biggest times waister on here. For example, I was started chatting with two of them few weeks ago. Of course everything OK with my pic's, chat etc. Of course they're looking for meet and friends with benefits. After couple of days when we arrange a meet they're stop answer for message. The question is: is so f....hard to say "I'm not interesting anymore" ???? And who is the times waister???? BTW don't worry mate, just keep your profile for fun, nothing else. It really makes me laugh sometimes that because we have a choice, we are labelled as 'stuck up', 'snobs', etc, and thus labelled a 'timewaster'! OP: anyway, unfortunately, men on here are outnumbered, thus women have quite a large choice. 'Timewasters' are generally defined as people that you've arranged to meet with, but don't turn up without notifying you. If women go off radar during chatting, it could be down to a number of things: life gets in the way, maybe they decide you're not for them, etc. Most tend to read the profile first (hint, hint), before reading messages. What a lot of people on here don't like is text speak and pushiness for meets when they're not ready." Women are also not obliged to meet anyone they don't want to. Women on here are not free prostitutes, we have our safety and health to consider. We are here to have fun. If we message it does not mean we are up for a meet. Often men get carried away with their fantasies via message. We are not time wasters | |||
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" If we message it does not mean we are up for a meet. Often men get carried away with their fantasies via message. We are not time wasters " Of course thats fine, but it does rather come down to a question of ettiquete. When we get a message from someone we have absolutely no intention of meeting, we make it plain early on that they arent what we are looking for, but that we may be interested socially, or simply dont reply. What we dont do is keep the avenue open ended indefinitely, or imply that we are open to a meet when we arent. We've had people on here, mostly couples id say rather than single females who have directly stated they would like to meet, proactively rather than at our request, and then ghosted it as soon as it actually came to agreeing a date/time. And these are members with verifications. That very much IS timewasting. Noone should be objecting to someone simply ignoring your messages, or to offering an outright rejection, those are fair game and to be expected. But a lot of people on here are deliberately vague or dishonest and its just tiresome | |||
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" If we message it does not mean we are up for a meet. Often men get carried away with their fantasies via message. We are not time wasters Of course thats fine, but it does rather come down to a question of ettiquete. When we get a message from someone we have absolutely no intention of meeting, we make it plain early on that they arent what we are looking for, but that we may be interested socially, or simply dont reply. What we dont do is keep the avenue open ended indefinitely, or imply that we are open to a meet when we arent. We've had people on here, mostly couples id say rather than single females who have directly stated they would like to meet, proactively rather than at our request, and then ghosted it as soon as it actually came to agreeing a date/time. And these are members with verifications. That very much IS timewasting. Noone should be objecting to someone simply ignoring your messages, or to offering an outright rejection, those are fair game and to be expected. But a lot of people on here are deliberately vague or dishonest and its just tiresome" This is usually the swinging is for socializing brigade... | |||
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