Join us FREE, we're FREE to use
Web's largest swingers site since 2006.
Already registered?
Login here
Back to forum list |
Back to Swinging Support and Advice |
Jump to newest |
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Let's talk some deep shit Let's talk about Introverts/Extroverts... Introvert enjoy time on their own and they kinda recharge batteries by being alone and doing their own thing. Along with this, they might have sometimes anxiety about being social or interacting with people. IT IS EXHAUSTING!!! And extrovert is generally...the opposite. So, they enjoy going out and hanging out with people....and being around tones of energy and that's how they kind of recharge. They need stimulation and socialising and so on... But you can be both at the same time My psychologist says I am ambivalent So here are some things/people that I have to deal with as outgoing introvert/shy extrovert: Dating is super exhausting. You want go out and you want to meet someone and you want to have that connection... but actually going out on a date is just...TOO MUCH!!! (I enjoy siting at home and having a delicious meal and having a perfect thing to watch on tv/Netflix. And I don't even eat my Indian food take away on Friday night if I don't have that perfect thing to watch on tv because it is like an experience of...hanging out...by yourself ) So...eating a meal on a date....I feel like you can't fully enjoy your meal...because your 'companion' wants to force awkward conversation. AND I SIGN UP FOR THAT SHIT!!! But dating is good. It is a perfect way to find that someone to hide away with...in your house...by yourself...but with a partner. But you're not meeting that right partner because you're hiding at home in your underwear, avoiding phone calls and messages 'I don't want to leave my house. I like it here' Having friends is super tough too!!! You need friends and that feel of being social and you love your friends...but you recharge by being....alone So....once a month or so I like to go out on a big social and hang out with all of my friends...and I'm super outgoing....and I'm having a great time... BUT THAT IS IT. That's all I need for like 30 days 'I did my part and I made my appearance' When I'm feeling Extroverted I will make plans at the time and then when the time comes to actually follow through I have to pep talk myself like crazy to actually do what I said I'm gonna do because...IT IS EXHAUSTING!!!! I've rather fake diarrhoea than go do that right now!! But you have to show your face and makes your appearances to keep your friends...but not enough, so they won't keep inviting you to every gathering... Even though I'm outgoing most of the time I still experience social anxiety. I had trick and triters coming to my house on Halloween and I was fricking out!!! 'It suppose to be all magical and for the kids...and all that shit' and there was me 'Omg omg omg what I'm gonna say to those kids when their parents are watching me handing them candies'. I don't know what to say?! 'You're such a nice little puppy cat...' ....FUCK In social situations I can be either super outgoing or super quiet and awkward and uncomfortable - depends on my introvert/extrovert/ambivalent mind state I guess. It can be awkward as fuck 'Hi how are you?' "good, how are you?" 'Good, you?' FUCK 'Happy Birthday' "you too..." FUCKKK Don't be ashamed if you're ambivalent or introvert or extrovert... Introverts unite!!! In our own home, by yourself, alone, forever.... " You have come to the right place.... White knights we have a special damsel for you to rescue. The mission is special because you might have to storm a castle and eat Indian food... | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"...I have the added fear of getting it wrong socially and being perceived wrongly... So it's easier to hide under a rock most of the time." An excellent description - that it's so much easier to avoid the potential for imagined social missteps, rather than tackle them and not have the fears become self-perpetuating, is so cruel. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I'm an extroverted aspie. So I'm very similar to you. I want to be extroverted, but I need to choose when I can be an extrovert and it's exhausting being extroverted all the time. I need to regroup. And then I have the added fear of getting it wrong socially and being perceived wrongly (aspies are seen as very unfeeling people but we actually feel MORE and are incredibly sensitive to how people view us, but we don't display it or don't display it in the socially correct way). So it's easier to hide under a rock most of the time. Especially as a girl aspie, no one spots us easily, as we copy others and mask our difficulties. Most of us don't even know we are aspies. I didn't figure it out, why I didn't "fit" quite right anywhere, until very recently. Hang out on forums. Internet forums were designed for aspies I think." How was it getting diagnosed? I have just been referred for diagnosis and getting prepared to argue with the psychiatrist as a lot of them believe that only boys can have aspergers. But to answer OP, my social anxiety is partially tied to the fact I can not read people. I don't know what is expected of me socially and can not formulate a correct social response. I only become extrovert when with people I really know or under the influence of alcohol. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Everything you have described is completely and utterly normal and I defy anyone to say they have never felt the same. It's quite simple really, we now have to give normal human behaviour and feelings, labels." You don't feel that might be a very simplistic take on social anxiety? That nobody suffers in a way that's not normal, for periods of time that can do real damage? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" You have come to the right place.... White knights we have a special damsel for you to rescue. The mission is special because you might have to storm a castle and eat Indian food... " But only if the right things are on TV | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Let's talk some deep shit Let's talk about Introverts/Extroverts... Introvert enjoy time on their own and they kinda recharge batteries by being alone and doing their own thing. Along with this, they might have sometimes anxiety about being social or interacting with people. IT IS EXHAUSTING!!! And extrovert is generally...the opposite. So, they enjoy going out and hanging out with people....and being around tones of energy and that's how they kind of recharge. They need stimulation and socialising and so on... But you can be both at the same time My psychologist says I am ambivalent So here are some things/people that I have to deal with as outgoing introvert/shy extrovert: Dating is super exhausting. You want go out and you want to meet someone and you want to have that connection... but actually going out on a date is just...TOO MUCH!!! (I enjoy siting at home and having a delicious meal and having a perfect thing to watch on tv/Netflix. And I don't even eat my Indian food take away on Friday night if I don't have that perfect thing to watch on tv because it is like an experience of...hanging out...by yourself ) So...eating a meal on a date....I feel like you can't fully enjoy your meal...because your 'companion' wants to force awkward conversation. AND I SIGN UP FOR THAT SHIT!!! But dating is good. It is a perfect way to find that someone to hide away with...in your house...by yourself...but with a partner. But you're not meeting that right partner because you're hiding at home in your underwear, avoiding phone calls and messages 'I don't want to leave my house. I like it here' Having friends is super tough too!!! You need friends and that feel of being social and you love your friends...but you recharge by being....alone So....once a month or so I like to go out on a big social and hang out with all of my friends...and I'm super outgoing....and I'm having a great time... BUT THAT IS IT. That's all I need for like 30 days 'I did my part and I made my appearance' When I'm feeling Extroverted I will make plans at the time and then when the time comes to actually follow through I have to pep talk myself like crazy to actually do what I said I'm gonna do because...IT IS EXHAUSTING!!!! I've rather fake diarrhoea than go do that right now!! But you have to show your face and makes your appearances to keep your friends...but not enough, so they won't keep inviting you to every gathering... Even though I'm outgoing most of the time I still experience social anxiety. I had trick and triters coming to my house on Halloween and I was fricking out!!! 'It suppose to be all magical and for the kids...and all that shit' and there was me 'Omg omg omg what I'm gonna say to those kids when their parents are watching me handing them candies'. I don't know what to say?! 'You're such a nice little puppy cat...' ....FUCK In social situations I can be either super outgoing or super quiet and awkward and uncomfortable - depends on my introvert/extrovert/ambivalent mind state I guess. It can be awkward as fuck 'Hi how are you?' "good, how are you?" 'Good, you?' FUCK 'Happy Birthday' "you too..." FUCKKK Don't be ashamed if you're ambivalent or introvert or extrovert... Introverts unite!!! In our own home, by yourself, alone, forever.... " I can relate to all of that apart from the bit about Halloween and trick or treaters. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" You have come to the right place.... White knights we have a special damsel for you to rescue. The mission is special because you might have to storm a castle and eat Indian food... But only if the right things are on TV " Ohh I forgot that. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"We are not weird. We are limited edition " No you guys are perfect.... No wasted money on dates Just come over to your place when you feel like inviting me over. Where do I sign up? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Best thing for an aspie introvert? Hide behind being wonderful at your job (which requires you to be social, but you know all the cues by now) and hook up with an extrovert .... then you only find yourself second guessing yourself when you see how he mingles so easily, but you can pick his brain about how it works like you never have been able to, and somehow get a way in. And of course, hang out in the forums ..." im bipolar not only do i exhaust myself i exhaust everyone else as well | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"oh god I sooooo relate to the OP. Have you been inside my head???! I often describe myself as an introvert who has learned extrovert tendencies - It is a survival mechanism I think in this culture. " Yep this is me too, total introvert that has learned extrovert tendencies, people think I'm outgoing and confident, inside I'm not and I was painfully shy until my mid twenties but I mask it and cover it up with non stop yapping and humour | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Everything you have described is completely and utterly normal and I defy anyone to say they have never felt the same. It's quite simple really, we now have to give normal human behaviour and feelings, labels. You don't feel that might be a very simplistic take on social anxiety? That nobody suffers in a way that's not normal, for periods of time that can do real damage?" I do think we've lost sight of the fact that most of what we feel is 'normal' and that for some it's harder to cope with. My 95 year old mother has had what is now labelled as OCD since the 1970's, my now dead dad who saw active service and was injured as a very young man in WW2 would now be diagnosed with PTSD. It affected them all of their lives but they got on with it. Feeling anxious and having an anxious response to social situations is normal, it's how we deal with it that matters. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Let's talk some deep shit Let's talk about Introverts/Extroverts... Introvert enjoy time on their own and they kinda recharge batteries by being alone and doing their own thing. Along with this, they might have sometimes anxiety about being social or interacting with people. IT IS EXHAUSTING!!! And extrovert is generally...the opposite. So, they enjoy going out and hanging out with people....and being around tones of energy and that's how they kind of recharge. They need stimulation and socialising and so on... But you can be both at the same time My psychologist says I am ambivalent So here are some things/people that I have to deal with as outgoing introvert/shy extrovert: Dating is super exhausting. You want go out and you want to meet someone and you want to have that connection... but actually going out on a date is just...TOO MUCH!!! (I enjoy siting at home and having a delicious meal and having a perfect thing to watch on tv/Netflix. And I don't even eat my Indian food take away on Friday night if I don't have that perfect thing to watch on tv because it is like an experience of...hanging out...by yourself ) So...eating a meal on a date....I feel like you can't fully enjoy your meal...because your 'companion' wants to force awkward conversation. AND I SIGN UP FOR THAT SHIT!!! But dating is good. It is a perfect way to find that someone to hide away with...in your house...by yourself...but with a partner. But you're not meeting that right partner because you're hiding at home in your underwear, avoiding phone calls and messages 'I don't want to leave my house. I like it here' Having friends is super tough too!!! You need friends and that feel of being social and you love your friends...but you recharge by being....alone So....once a month or so I like to go out on a big social and hang out with all of my friends...and I'm super outgoing....and I'm having a great time... BUT THAT IS IT. That's all I need for like 30 days 'I did my part and I made my appearance' When I'm feeling Extroverted I will make plans at the time and then when the time comes to actually follow through I have to pep talk myself like crazy to actually do what I said I'm gonna do because...IT IS EXHAUSTING!!!! I've rather fake diarrhoea than go do that right now!! But you have to show your face and makes your appearances to keep your friends...but not enough, so they won't keep inviting you to every gathering... Even though I'm outgoing most of the time I still experience social anxiety. I had trick and triters coming to my house on Halloween and I was fricking out!!! 'It suppose to be all magical and for the kids...and all that shit' and there was me 'Omg omg omg what I'm gonna say to those kids when their parents are watching me handing them candies'. I don't know what to say?! 'You're such a nice little puppy cat...' ....FUCK In social situations I can be either super outgoing or super quiet and awkward and uncomfortable - depends on my introvert/extrovert/ambivalent mind state I guess. It can be awkward as fuck 'Hi how are you?' "good, how are you?" 'Good, you?' FUCK 'Happy Birthday' "you too..." FUCKKK Don't be ashamed if you're ambivalent or introvert or extrovert... Introverts unite!!! In our own home, by yourself, alone, forever.... " Not just me then? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Sometimes those who don't socialize much aren't actually anti-social, they just have no tolerance for drama and fake people... " and a bit of this - take people we work with - spend so many hours with them that you see all sides and to go out with them on a social is too much - i often avoid work dos as i need a break from that crowd | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I'm an extroverted aspie. So I'm very similar to you. I want to be extroverted, but I need to choose when I can be an extrovert and it's exhausting being extroverted all the time. I need to regroup. And then I have the added fear of getting it wrong socially and being perceived wrongly (aspies are seen as very unfeeling people but we actually feel MORE and are incredibly sensitive to how people view us, but we don't display it or don't display it in the socially correct way). So it's easier to hide under a rock most of the time. Especially as a girl aspie, no one spots us easily, as we copy others and mask our difficulties. Most of us don't even know we are aspies. I didn't figure it out, why I didn't "fit" quite right anywhere, until very recently. Hang out on forums. Internet forums were designed for aspies I think. How was it getting diagnosed? I have just been referred for diagnosis and getting prepared to argue with the psychiatrist as a lot of them believe that only boys can have aspergers. But to answer OP, my social anxiety is partially tied to the fact I can not read people. I don't know what is expected of me socially and can not formulate a correct social response. I only become extrovert when with people I really know or under the influence of alcohol. " I tried to PM you but you have restrictions on your profile. I have no diagnosis. But I have a parent who has ridiculously strong tendencies, and two kids with a diagnosis (one quite severe). They blatantly got it from me. It's utter bollocks that women can't have aspergers. It's really common, but you need to find someone who can diagnose women. Basically, women are social mimics, like I said. So they mask their symptoms by copying others. As you and I know, it doesn't come naturally. Google how autism presents in females and present your case. I went to my GP and he said as long as it's not causing problems in my relationship or job (I have no job and my husband is very understanding) so Ivr just accepted this is me. I don't need a diagnosis. But I know I'm on the spectrum. Good luck in your fight! | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Let's talk some deep shit Let's talk about Introverts/Extroverts... Introvert enjoy time on their own and they kinda recharge batteries by being alone and doing their own thing. Along with this, they might have sometimes anxiety about being social or interacting with people. IT IS EXHAUSTING!!! And extrovert is generally...the opposite. So, they enjoy going out and hanging out with people....and being around tones of energy and that's how they kind of recharge. They need stimulation and socialising and so on... But you can be both at the same time My psychologist says I am ambivalent So here are some things/people that I have to deal with as outgoing introvert/shy extrovert: Dating is super exhausting. You want go out and you want to meet someone and you want to have that connection... but actually going out on a date is just...TOO MUCH!!! (I enjoy siting at home and having a delicious meal and having a perfect thing to watch on tv/Netflix. And I don't even eat my Indian food take away on Friday night if I don't have that perfect thing to watch on tv because it is like an experience of...hanging out...by yourself ) So...eating a meal on a date....I feel like you can't fully enjoy your meal...because your 'companion' wants to force awkward conversation. AND I SIGN UP FOR THAT SHIT!!! But dating is good. It is a perfect way to find that someone to hide away with...in your house...by yourself...but with a partner. But you're not meeting that right partner because you're hiding at home in your underwear, avoiding phone calls and messages 'I don't want to leave my house. I like it here' Having friends is super tough too!!! You need friends and that feel of being social and you love your friends...but you recharge by being....alone So....once a month or so I like to go out on a big social and hang out with all of my friends...and I'm super outgoing....and I'm having a great time... BUT THAT IS IT. That's all I need for like 30 days 'I did my part and I made my appearance' When I'm feeling Extroverted I will make plans at the time and then when the time comes to actually follow through I have to pep talk myself like crazy to actually do what I said I'm gonna do because...IT IS EXHAUSTING!!!! I've rather fake diarrhoea than go do that right now!! But you have to show your face and makes your appearances to keep your friends...but not enough, so they won't keep inviting you to every gathering... Even though I'm outgoing most of the time I still experience social anxiety. I had trick and triters coming to my house on Halloween and I was fricking out!!! 'It suppose to be all magical and for the kids...and all that shit' and there was me 'Omg omg omg what I'm gonna say to those kids when their parents are watching me handing them candies'. I don't know what to say?! 'You're such a nice little puppy cat...' ....FUCK In social situations I can be either super outgoing or super quiet and awkward and uncomfortable - depends on my introvert/extrovert/ambivalent mind state I guess. It can be awkward as fuck 'Hi how are you?' "good, how are you?" 'Good, you?' FUCK 'Happy Birthday' "you too..." FUCKKK Don't be ashamed if you're ambivalent or introvert or extrovert... Introverts unite!!! In our own home, by yourself, alone, forever.... " (Male) cant speak for my other half, but I can relate to this. During a conversation I go from all talk, to shy and withdrawn. Always kind of classed it as a mild depression or just a social tic id developed over the years. In not saying im ambient, I am definitely not Extrovert, I am an Introvert and proud. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I'm very shy and introverted. Have always been happy in my own company... ...I look at those who are outgoing and gregarious and wish I was like that." There is so much I recognise in what you've written, I could ask a hundred questions... | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Let's talk some deep shit Let's talk about Introverts/Extroverts... Introvert enjoy time on their own and they kinda recharge batteries by being alone and doing their own thing. Along with this, they might have sometimes anxiety about being social or interacting with people. IT IS EXHAUSTING!!! And extrovert is generally...the opposite. So, they enjoy going out and hanging out with people....and being around tones of energy and that's how they kind of recharge. They need stimulation and socialising and so on... But you can be both at the same time My psychologist says I am ambivalent So here are some things/people that I have to deal with as outgoing introvert/shy extrovert: Dating is super exhausting. You want go out and you want to meet someone and you want to have that connection... but actually going out on a date is just...TOO MUCH!!! (I enjoy siting at home and having a delicious meal and having a perfect thing to watch on tv/Netflix. And I don't even eat my Indian food take away on Friday night if I don't have that perfect thing to watch on tv because it is like an experience of...hanging out...by yourself ) So...eating a meal on a date....I feel like you can't fully enjoy your meal...because your 'companion' wants to force awkward conversation. AND I SIGN UP FOR THAT SHIT!!! But dating is good. It is a perfect way to find that someone to hide away with...in your house...by yourself...but with a partner. But you're not meeting that right partner because you're hiding at home in your underwear, avoiding phone calls and messages 'I don't want to leave my house. I like it here' Having friends is super tough too!!! You need friends and that feel of being social and you love your friends...but you recharge by being....alone So....once a month or so I like to go out on a big social and hang out with all of my friends...and I'm super outgoing....and I'm having a great time... BUT THAT IS IT. That's all I need for like 30 days 'I did my part and I made my appearance' When I'm feeling Extroverted I will make plans at the time and then when the time comes to actually follow through I have to pep talk myself like crazy to actually do what I said I'm gonna do because...IT IS EXHAUSTING!!!! I've rather fake diarrhoea than go do that right now!! But you have to show your face and makes your appearances to keep your friends...but not enough, so they won't keep inviting you to every gathering... Even though I'm outgoing most of the time I still experience social anxiety. I had trick and triters coming to my house on Halloween and I was fricking out!!! 'It suppose to be all magical and for the kids...and all that shit' and there was me 'Omg omg omg what I'm gonna say to those kids when their parents are watching me handing them candies'. I don't know what to say?! 'You're such a nice little puppy cat...' ....FUCK In social situations I can be either super outgoing or super quiet and awkward and uncomfortable - depends on my introvert/extrovert/ambivalent mind state I guess. It can be awkward as fuck 'Hi how are you?' "good, how are you?" 'Good, you?' FUCK 'Happy Birthday' "you too..." FUCKKK Don't be ashamed if you're ambivalent or introvert or extrovert... Introverts unite!!! In our own home, by yourself, alone, forever.... " Ambivalent is an attachment style and totally unrelated to introversion/extroversion. Besides which, introversion usually gets a bad rep and it shouldn't. Also, it's kind of states and doesn't relate to traits so can be transient and dependent upon environmental factors, hence always shifting. As your Psych says. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Let's talk some deep shit Let's talk about Introverts/Extroverts... Introvert enjoy time on their own and they kinda recharge batteries by being alone and doing their own thing. Along with this, they might have sometimes anxiety about being social or interacting with people. IT IS EXHAUSTING!!! And extrovert is generally...the opposite. So, they enjoy going out and hanging out with people....and being around tones of energy and that's how they kind of recharge. They need stimulation and socialising and so on... But you can be both at the same time My psychologist says I am ambivalent So here are some things/people that I have to deal with as outgoing introvert/shy extrovert: Dating is super exhausting. You want go out and you want to meet someone and you want to have that connection... but actually going out on a date is just...TOO MUCH!!! (I enjoy siting at home and having a delicious meal and having a perfect thing to watch on tv/Netflix. And I don't even eat my Indian food take away on Friday night if I don't have that perfect thing to watch on tv because it is like an experience of...hanging out...by yourself ) So...eating a meal on a date....I feel like you can't fully enjoy your meal...because your 'companion' wants to force awkward conversation. AND I SIGN UP FOR THAT SHIT!!! But dating is good. It is a perfect way to find that someone to hide away with...in your house...by yourself...but with a partner. But you're not meeting that right partner because you're hiding at home in your underwear, avoiding phone calls and messages 'I don't want to leave my house. I like it here' Having friends is super tough too!!! You need friends and that feel of being social and you love your friends...but you recharge by being....alone So....once a month or so I like to go out on a big social and hang out with all of my friends...and I'm super outgoing....and I'm having a great time... BUT THAT IS IT. That's all I need for like 30 days 'I did my part and I made my appearance' When I'm feeling Extroverted I will make plans at the time and then when the time comes to actually follow through I have to pep talk myself like crazy to actually do what I said I'm gonna do because...IT IS EXHAUSTING!!!! I've rather fake diarrhoea than go do that right now!! But you have to show your face and makes your appearances to keep your friends...but not enough, so they won't keep inviting you to every gathering... Even though I'm outgoing most of the time I still experience social anxiety. I had trick and triters coming to my house on Halloween and I was fricking out!!! 'It suppose to be all magical and for the kids...and all that shit' and there was me 'Omg omg omg what I'm gonna say to those kids when their parents are watching me handing them candies'. I don't know what to say?! 'You're such a nice little puppy cat...' ....FUCK In social situations I can be either super outgoing or super quiet and awkward and uncomfortable - depends on my introvert/extrovert/ambivalent mind state I guess. It can be awkward as fuck 'Hi how are you?' "good, how are you?" 'Good, you?' FUCK 'Happy Birthday' "you too..." FUCKKK Don't be ashamed if you're ambivalent or introvert or extrovert... Introverts unite!!! In our own home, by yourself, alone, forever.... You have come to the right place.... White knights we have a special damsel for you to rescue. The mission is special because you might have to storm a castle and eat Indian food... " tfw too awkward to white knight a damsel in distress | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I do think we've lost sight of the fact that most of what we feel is 'normal' and that for some it's harder to cope with." I agree - what one person experiences will be common to many others, if not a majority. The degree to which people suffer, if at all, will vary greatly. "My 95 year old mother has had what is now labelled as OCD since the 1970's, my now dead dad who saw active service and was injured as a very young man in WW2 would now be diagnosed with PTSD. It affected them all of their lives but they got on with it. Feeling anxious and having an anxious response to social situations is normal, it's how we deal with it that matters." Thanks for sharing your parents experiences. I don't know whether 'getting on with it' is what you think will work for most people, whether some people are more deserving of modern diagnoses than others, or if it's the 'labels' that are the problem? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I'm very shy and introverted. Have always been happy in my own company... ...I look at those who are outgoing and gregarious and wish I was like that. There is so much I recognise in what you've written, I could ask a hundred questions..." I'm getting panicky!! So long as you put them in writing and don't expect to ask via webcam (arghh!) or chat on phone (yikes!) then i can cope | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I do think we've lost sight of the fact that most of what we feel is 'normal' and that for some it's harder to cope with. I agree - what one person experiences will be common to many others, if not a majority. The degree to which people suffer, if at all, will vary greatly. My 95 year old mother has had what is now labelled as OCD since the 1970's, my now dead dad who saw active service and was injured as a very young man in WW2 would now be diagnosed with PTSD. It affected them all of their lives but they got on with it. Feeling anxious and having an anxious response to social situations is normal, it's how we deal with it that matters. Thanks for sharing your parents experiences. I don't know whether 'getting on with it' is what you think will work for most people, whether some people are more deserving of modern diagnoses than others, or if it's the 'labels' that are the problem?" Labels are never a problem. It's how they are used that can often be a problem. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Labels are never a problem. It's how they are used that can often be a problem. " Indeed. I'm wondering more about whether there's a perception that putting a label on something lends it an authenticity that it doesn't deserve? That giving a name to something that was previously just endured is a modern invention for 'normal' life experiences, where people should just be 'getting on with it', rather than need help or advice? To be clear, it's not my perception at all - it's been real to me for a long time and never felt normal. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Let's talk some deep shit Let's talk about Introverts/Extroverts... Introvert enjoy time on their own and they kinda recharge batteries by being alone and doing their own thing. Along with this, they might have sometimes anxiety about being social or interacting with people. IT IS EXHAUSTING!!! And extrovert is generally...the opposite. So, they enjoy going out and hanging out with people....and being around tones of energy and that's how they kind of recharge. They need stimulation and socialising and so on... But you can be both at the same time My psychologist says I am ambivalent So here are some things/people that I have to deal with as outgoing introvert/shy extrovert: Dating is super exhausting. You want go out and you want to meet someone and you want to have that connection... but actually going out on a date is just...TOO MUCH!!! (I enjoy siting at home and having a delicious meal and having a perfect thing to watch on tv/Netflix. And I don't even eat my Indian food take away on Friday night if I don't have that perfect thing to watch on tv because it is like an experience of...hanging out...by yourself ) So...eating a meal on a date....I feel like you can't fully enjoy your meal...because your 'companion' wants to force awkward conversation. AND I SIGN UP FOR THAT SHIT!!! But dating is good. It is a perfect way to find that someone to hide away with...in your house...by yourself...but with a partner. But you're not meeting that right partner because you're hiding at home in your underwear, avoiding phone calls and messages 'I don't want to leave my house. I like it here' Having friends is super tough too!!! You need friends and that feel of being social and you love your friends...but you recharge by being....alone So....once a month or so I like to go out on a big social and hang out with all of my friends...and I'm super outgoing....and I'm having a great time... BUT THAT IS IT. That's all I need for like 30 days 'I did my part and I made my appearance' When I'm feeling Extroverted I will make plans at the time and then when the time comes to actually follow through I have to pep talk myself like crazy to actually do what I said I'm gonna do because...IT IS EXHAUSTING!!!! I've rather fake diarrhoea than go do that right now!! But you have to show your face and makes your appearances to keep your friends...but not enough, so they won't keep inviting you to every gathering... Even though I'm outgoing most of the time I still experience social anxiety. I had trick and triters coming to my house on Halloween and I was fricking out!!! 'It suppose to be all magical and for the kids...and all that shit' and there was me 'Omg omg omg what I'm gonna say to those kids when their parents are watching me handing them candies'. I don't know what to say?! 'You're such a nice little puppy cat...' ....FUCK In social situations I can be either super outgoing or super quiet and awkward and uncomfortable - depends on my introvert/extrovert/ambivalent mind state I guess. It can be awkward as fuck 'Hi how are you?' "good, how are you?" 'Good, you?' FUCK 'Happy Birthday' "you too..." FUCKKK Don't be ashamed if you're ambivalent or introvert or extrovert... Introverts unite!!! In our own home, by yourself, alone, forever.... You have come to the right place.... White knights we have a special damsel for you to rescue. The mission is special because you might have to storm a castle and eat Indian food... tfw too awkward to white knight a damsel in distress " Use the force | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"We are not weird. We are limited edition " In your case about as limited as you can get | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I'm an extroverted aspie. So I'm very similar to you. I want to be extroverted, but I need to choose when I can be an extrovert and it's exhausting being extroverted all the time. I need to regroup. And then I have the added fear of getting it wrong socially and being perceived wrongly (aspies are seen as very unfeeling people but we actually feel MORE and are incredibly sensitive to how people view us, but we don't display it or don't display it in the socially correct way). So it's easier to hide under a rock most of the time. Especially as a girl aspie, no one spots us easily, as we copy others and mask our difficulties. Most of us don't even know we are aspies. I didn't figure it out, why I didn't "fit" quite right anywhere, until very recently. Hang out on forums. Internet forums were designed for aspies I think." I feel exactly the same. I seem to oscillate from one extreme to another. Intro to extro. No happy medium. I try not to hide away any more but tel people upfront of what to expect. It's taken the pressure off. Plus, I rather enjoy feeling a bit awkward and uncomfortable so will regularly push my own boundaries socially. Think that comes from my kink side. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Let's talk some deep shit Let's talk about Introverts/Extroverts... Introvert enjoy time on their own and they kinda recharge batteries by being alone and doing their own thing. Along with this, they might have sometimes anxiety about being social or interacting with people. IT IS EXHAUSTING!!! And extrovert is generally...the opposite. So, they enjoy going out and hanging out with people....and being around tones of energy and that's how they kind of recharge. They need stimulation and socialising and so on... But you can be both at the same time My psychologist says I am ambivalent So here are some things/people that I have to deal with as outgoing introvert/shy extrovert: Dating is super exhausting. You want go out and you want to meet someone and you want to have that connection... but actually going out on a date is just...TOO MUCH!!! (I enjoy siting at home and having a delicious meal and having a perfect thing to watch on tv/Netflix. And I don't even eat my Indian food take away on Friday night if I don't have that perfect thing to watch on tv because it is like an experience of...hanging out...by yourself ) So...eating a meal on a date....I feel like you can't fully enjoy your meal...because your 'companion' wants to force awkward conversation. AND I SIGN UP FOR THAT SHIT!!! But dating is good. It is a perfect way to find that someone to hide away with...in your house...by yourself...but with a partner. But you're not meeting that right partner because you're hiding at home in your underwear, avoiding phone calls and messages 'I don't want to leave my house. I like it here' Having friends is super tough too!!! You need friends and that feel of being social and you love your friends...but you recharge by being....alone So....once a month or so I like to go out on a big social and hang out with all of my friends...and I'm super outgoing....and I'm having a great time... BUT THAT IS IT. That's all I need for like 30 days 'I did my part and I made my appearance' When I'm feeling Extroverted I will make plans at the time and then when the time comes to actually follow through I have to pep talk myself like crazy to actually do what I said I'm gonna do because...IT IS EXHAUSTING!!!! I've rather fake diarrhoea than go do that right now!! But you have to show your face and makes your appearances to keep your friends...but not enough, so they won't keep inviting you to every gathering... Even though I'm outgoing most of the time I still experience social anxiety. I had trick and triters coming to my house on Halloween and I was fricking out!!! 'It suppose to be all magical and for the kids...and all that shit' and there was me 'Omg omg omg what I'm gonna say to those kids when their parents are watching me handing them candies'. I don't know what to say?! 'You're such a nice little puppy cat...' ....FUCK In social situations I can be either super outgoing or super quiet and awkward and uncomfortable - depends on my introvert/extrovert/ambivalent mind state I guess. It can be awkward as fuck 'Hi how are you?' "good, how are you?" 'Good, you?' FUCK 'Happy Birthday' "you too..." FUCKKK Don't be ashamed if you're ambivalent or introvert or extrovert... Introverts unite!!! In our own home, by yourself, alone, forever.... " I've realised after many years, and talking to lots of friends and people I work with that most people feel like this, it's normal, and once you realise that and accept it, it all becomes much easier, because when you know others are feeling just as awkward as you, you suddenly feel less awkward There are true introverts and extroverts, but they are less common. I was married to an extrovert, now THAT was exhausting, nothing like an extrovert not understanding why you are not the same to make you feel inadequate. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Sometimes those who don't socialize much aren't actually anti-social, they just have no tolerance for drama and fake people... " this a lot of people are like this | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Hope you're not paying much for your psychologist as introvert and extrovert personalities are something you could easily look up on the internet. Dr. Andrea Letamendi is a clinical psychologist advises that most classifications are grouped as ambiverts as no-one knows the person 100%, or fits either definition. "Introversion is not a condition, not a disorder, and certainly not acknowledged in the psychiatric classification of disorders as a mental health problem," explains Dr. Letamendi, adding that when people see something they can't understand at face value, it's easy to suspect the worst of it. Essentially 'if it's not broke don't fix it'. You might be a social butterfly, though extroverts are not extrovert 100% of the time and fluctuate more! Introverts don't mind chatter just the right kind of chatter, they tend to be more intellectual/political/philosophical based. This doesn't mean they know everything about everything though, so need to engage. Approaches: cut back on the internet and groups, these cut you off from interacting. Accept offers to go out by friends or join group events/activities. If you feel uncomfortable, give yourself something to do - drinks, food, help out with organising. Don't mind sitting down and people watching, re-charging. All in all, don't worry about it. You'll get on with some and some you won't, speak to who you like about whatever you want. Go out when you want and do things out of your regular routine " I kind of agree with you... Except the looking it up on the net. By all means do so, but you can't beat professional help... In any walk of life... It's not the big concepts and broad knowledge that make a professional, it's the small details and knowing what to use to fix or enhance them. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" Wish I could be the happy funny social person I am maybe once a month every day but I don't know how to change " "You know we should not bend to the will of the world, And one day world will bend to your will" Lyrics from a song, by old Russian rock band, I think they have a point there. Apologise for poor translation. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" ...Wish I could be the happy funny social person I am maybe once a month every day but I don't know how to change " Well, you're the only one person who can do anything about it But the question is....do you really want that If you ask me, it sounds fucking exhausting lol | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" ...Wish I could be the happy funny social person I am maybe once a month every day but I don't know how to change Well, you're the only one person who can do anything about it But the question is....do you really want that If you ask me, it sounds fucking exhausting lol" A bit like sex with me (said like Terry Thomas) | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Let's talk some deep shit Let's talk about Introverts/Extroverts... Introvert enjoy time on their own and they kinda recharge batteries by being alone and doing their own thing. Along with this, they might have sometimes anxiety about being social or interacting with people. IT IS EXHAUSTING!!! And extrovert is generally...the opposite. So, they enjoy going out and hanging out with people....and being around tones of energy and that's how they kind of recharge. They need stimulation and socialising and so on... But you can be both at the same time My psychologist says I am ambivalent So here are some things/people that I have to deal with as outgoing introvert/shy extrovert: Dating is super exhausting. You want go out and you want to meet someone and you want to have that connection... but actually going out on a date is just...TOO MUCH!!! (I enjoy siting at home and having a delicious meal and having a perfect thing to watch on tv/Netflix. And I don't even eat my Indian food take away on Friday night if I don't have that perfect thing to watch on tv because it is like an experience of...hanging out...by yourself ) So...eating a meal on a date....I feel like you can't fully enjoy your meal...because your 'companion' wants to force awkward conversation. AND I SIGN UP FOR THAT SHIT!!! But dating is good. It is a perfect way to find that someone to hide away with...in your house...by yourself...but with a partner. But you're not meeting that right partner because you're hiding at home in your underwear, avoiding phone calls and messages 'I don't want to leave my house. I like it here' Having friends is super tough too!!! You need friends and that feel of being social and you love your friends...but you recharge by being....alone So....once a month or so I like to go out on a big social and hang out with all of my friends...and I'm super outgoing....and I'm having a great time... BUT THAT IS IT. That's all I need for like 30 days 'I did my part and I made my appearance' When I'm feeling Extroverted I will make plans at the time and then when the time comes to actually follow through I have to pep talk myself like crazy to actually do what I said I'm gonna do because...IT IS EXHAUSTING!!!! I've rather fake diarrhoea than go do that right now!! But you have to show your face and makes your appearances to keep your friends...but not enough, so they won't keep inviting you to every gathering... Even though I'm outgoing most of the time I still experience social anxiety. I had trick and triters coming to my house on Halloween and I was fricking out!!! 'It suppose to be all magical and for the kids...and all that shit' and there was me 'Omg omg omg what I'm gonna say to those kids when their parents are watching me handing them candies'. I don't know what to say?! 'You're such a nice little puppy cat...' ....FUCK In social situations I can be either super outgoing or super quiet and awkward and uncomfortable - depends on my introvert/extrovert/ambivalent mind state I guess. It can be awkward as fuck 'Hi how are you?' "good, how are you?" 'Good, you?' FUCK 'Happy Birthday' "you too..." FUCKKK Don't be ashamed if you're ambivalent or introvert or extrovert... Introverts unite!!! In our own home, by yourself, alone, forever.... " After years of being an extrovert I'm now very much introvert,love the solitude that my line of work gives me. These days I actually need a drink before I contemplate going out with what little friends I've got remaining. Slowly but surely I'm getting a little of my old extrovert self back though but it wouldn't bother me if I didn't. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"We are not weird. We are limited edition " Where did you come from have you being spying on my life I feel like you were talking about me it's crazy I never looked at it as much before but you described me I'm a nutshell I need an introvert gf where's a club/castle for single introverts | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Excellent post OP Lets face it- most of us on an internet forum are going to completely relate to feeling exhausted from social interaction! It's so much easier to create an internet persona / alter ego that can stop a conversation with the click of a button - rather than have to deal with the awkwardness of making excuses to leave an exhausting social situation to go and watch the latest TV series you have been sitting at home in pajamas watching! I constantly fight with the me that likes to have anonymous sex with strangers, the life and soul of the party and the me that likes to spend most of my time alone and avoiding any kind of intimate relationships with anyone! But that's another story! I'm not shy but then I'm not an extrovert either ... I'm just as weird as everyone else! And I love to sit and be a voyeur at everyone elses weird private habits - but I don't necessarily want to be involved! And breathe " Bravo for your honest comment. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I'm very shy and introverted. Have always been happy in my own company, find meeting new people very hard going as I just lack the social skills to strike up a conversation. I panic about what to say, the more I think about it the more I panic and I come out with some guff that makes no sense. I have only a handful of friends (most of whom are loud, chat to anyone types) as meeting and making new friends is just too much like hard work and I find being in a group of people exhausting. I guess I've given up. Probably be a recluse if I didn't have young children, I put the effort in to take them to parties but I don't mix with the other mums. They probably think I'm being aloof but I'm not, I just don't know how to maintain a conversation, so I've just stopped trying. The hardest part of being on here (and the other site I was on) was the actual meeting bit. I find it to be a chore, so much so I now no longer bother to meet. The stress of meeting someone outweighs the sexy excitement. I'll sit and worry about conversation starters etc. Unless I met someone who is outgoing, we would probably be sat in awkward silence, that stresses me out and I talk myself out of meeting. I look at those who are outgoing and gregarious and wish I was like that. " That sounds exactly like me I'm very introverted even at work, fortunately most of the time I work in a room on my own lol, but don't like going to the pub for a drink after work and even said I was ill for the last Xmas do, we do sometimes go to parties as a couple but I will be panicking all day and telling Angie that I don't want to go, conversation is so difficult too, though I think that really I have to try otherwise I would be a recluse, fortunately for me Angie is an extrovert which helps me alot | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I've been suffering with anxiety for years. I've pretty much nearly conquered it. Through learning about mindfulness and being kind to myself. Exercise, fresh air, family and friends of course. Be you. Be kind. Be true to who you are. Oh and cake. " May I ask which was there first, your anxiety or your friends? Have the same people stuck by you throughout, or have you always managed to meet new people while suffering from anxiety? | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I've been suffering with anxiety for years. I've pretty much nearly conquered it. Through learning about mindfulness and being kind to myself. Exercise, fresh air, family and friends of course. Be you. Be kind. Be true to who you are. Oh and cake. May I ask which was there first, your anxiety or your friends? Have the same people stuck by you throughout, or have you always managed to meet new people while suffering from anxiety?" The anxiety has been with me throughout my life. My friends stuck by me, no matter what. Meeting new people is harder, almost impossible when in the throes of anxiety but at my very being, I'm a social butterfly so when I'm well, I fly. It's not the same for everyone though. Not everyone has the same experience it seems. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" The anxiety has been with me throughout my life. My friends stuck by me, no matter what. Meeting new people is harder, almost impossible when in the throes of anxiety but at my very being, I'm a social butterfly so when I'm well, I fly. It's not the same for everyone though. Not everyone has the same experience it seems. " Thanks for this. It's all relevant to me and it seems that I've read a lot of personal testimonials of late, most of which make reference to spouses, partners and friends. It's been reassuring to know that successful relationships are still possible, intriguing to discover how anxiety can be calmed to make it work. | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" The anxiety has been with me throughout my life. My friends stuck by me, no matter what. Meeting new people is harder, almost impossible when in the throes of anxiety but at my very being, I'm a social butterfly so when I'm well, I fly. It's not the same for everyone though. Not everyone has the same experience it seems. Thanks for this. It's all relevant to me and it seems that I've read a lot of personal testimonials of late, most of which make reference to spouses, partners and friends. It's been reassuring to know that successful relationships are still possible, intriguing to discover how anxiety can be calmed to make it work." If you want to message me I can give you some helpful tips etc | |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
Post new Message to Thread |
back to top |