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"I'll get the popcorn. This could be interesting... " Alot of differences in opinions on this then, i gather?! | |||
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"As many different interpretations as there are submissive. But in general, someone who allows the Dominant partner to take charge. How far that goes depends on what they've negotiated. Maybe just in the bedroom, maybe much further than that. However it doesn't mean someone who enjoys a bit of spanking and fluffy handcuffs, but then refuses to do something the Dominant wants to do that isn't on their list of limits. " | |||
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"sexually, i think they're more likely to enjoy giving more during sex and get pleasure from other people enjoying themselves. and they like being used but on their terms." I would saythat is pretty accurate but with a wide range from 'extremely' to a 'little bit'. Most have limits ...I think there are very few who are truely 'no limits'...or is that where they become slaves? | |||
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"sexually, i think they're more likely to enjoy giving more during sex and get pleasure from other people enjoying themselves. and they like being used but on their terms. I would saythat is pretty accurate but with a wide range from 'extremely' to a 'little bit'. Most have limits ...I think there are very few who are truely 'no limits'...or is that where they become slaves?" slaves i'd say more want to be taken over completely by someone else. they'd still have limits probably, although it's possible they'd be more open to having their boundaries pushed. not sure as everyone is individual so you have to be quite vague with descriptions. | |||
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"I'll get the popcorn. This could be interesting... " What makes you think that? | |||
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"After ballsing up my typing on first one.... What's people's understanding / experiences of being a sub. What does it actually mean? And not the sandwich type...." Bone Idle for the most part, dull dull dull. | |||
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"After ballsing up my typing on first one.... What's people's understanding / experiences of being a sub. What does it actually mean? And not the sandwich type.... Bone Idle for the most part, dull dull dull." Do you mean the question, the answers or submissive? | |||
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"After ballsing up my typing on first one.... What's people's understanding / experiences of being a sub. What does it actually mean? And not the sandwich type.... Bone Idle for the most part, dull dull dull." Thats unnecesarily mean...unless youre describing yourself? | |||
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"sexually, i think they're more likely to enjoy giving more during sex and get pleasure from other people enjoying themselves. and they like being used but on their terms." Got no desire or inclination to be 'used' by anyone! Submissive...I can only answer on what it means to me. Sometimes I submit willingly and other times I have to be forced into it. I look for a Dominant that I can trust and worthy of me idolising them. Someone I can worship and then hand over as much control as he wants. I enjoy getting lost in him with him taking the responsibility of making choices on my behalf. My Dominants tend to be sadists. I expect to get my boundaries pushed, to be stimulated physically and mentally. I expect to belong to him and for him to act with my best interests in mind. It's a lifestyle choice for me, not rough sex and being called a slut or to be used. | |||
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"sexually, i think they're more likely to enjoy giving more during sex and get pleasure from other people enjoying themselves. and they like being used but on their terms. Got no desire or inclination to be 'used' by anyone! Submissive...I can only answer on what it means to me. Sometimes I submit willingly and other times I have to be forced into it. I look for a Dominant that I can trust and worthy of me idolising them. Someone I can worship and then hand over as much control as he wants. I enjoy getting lost in him with him taking the responsibility of making choices on my behalf. My Dominants tend to be sadists. I expect to get my boundaries pushed, to be stimulated physically and mentally. I expect to belong to him and for him to act with my best interests in mind. It's a lifestyle choice for me, not rough sex and being called a slut or to be used. " interesting, i also said on their terms so you twisted what i said somewhat. most men like me being in control and being of service to me, so i noticed. | |||
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"sexually, i think they're more likely to enjoy giving more during sex and get pleasure from other people enjoying themselves. and they like being used but on their terms. Got no desire or inclination to be 'used' by anyone! Submissive...I can only answer on what it means to me. Sometimes I submit willingly and other times I have to be forced into it. I look for a Dominant that I can trust and worthy of me idolising them. Someone I can worship and then hand over as much control as he wants. I enjoy getting lost in him with him taking the responsibility of making choices on my behalf. My Dominants tend to be sadists. I expect to get my boundaries pushed, to be stimulated physically and mentally. I expect to belong to him and for him to act with my best interests in mind. It's a lifestyle choice for me, not rough sex and being called a slut or to be used. interesting, i also said on their terms so you twisted what i said somewhat. most men like me being in control and being of service to me, so i noticed. " I fail to see how I twisted your words. You stated that subs like to be used. I'm telling you that's not the case. From the conversations I've had about submission with my male sub friends, our experiences of submission tends to be quite different. They have told me male subs can have a tougher time and I'd agree. | |||
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"As previously posts said it is specific to the people involved. I'm a Sensualist Dom. I'm not into inflicting pain for the sake of my pleasure. I don't really like to inflict pain at all. I'm more into orgasm control. For my sub, when I delay, and eventually grant permission to climax, it raises the intensity of her climax exponentially. At some points she can cum with a verbal que from me and no physical stimulus at all. (Truly amazing to witness). I'm told this is highly unusual, and typically takes time to develop, but we just stumbled on it. The play is intended to heighten her pleasure. My sub(s) derive pleasure from relinquishing control to me. She trusts that I have her pleasure as my goal, and her protection at hand. My role only lasts for the session, and is clearly negotiated. I don't want more control than that, although she does offer it. We talk frequently about her fealings before, during, and after play. In vanilla life she is a queen bee--- the alpha female in her household. My understanding is that she enjoys relinquishing control, as a departure from her normal life, and wants to please me. She does have limits, but I'm careful to respect them. It's the basis for the trust she grants me. G" | |||
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"sexually, i think they're more likely to enjoy giving more during sex and get pleasure from other people enjoying themselves. and they like being used but on their terms. Got no desire or inclination to be 'used' by anyone! Submissive...I can only answer on what it means to me. Sometimes I submit willingly and other times I have to be forced into it. I look for a Dominant that I can trust and worthy of me idolising them. Someone I can worship and then hand over as much control as he wants. I enjoy getting lost in him with him taking the responsibility of making choices on my behalf. My Dominants tend to be sadists. I expect to get my boundaries pushed, to be stimulated physically and mentally. I expect to belong to him and for him to act with my best interests in mind. It's a lifestyle choice for me, not rough sex and being called a slut or to be used. interesting, i also said on their terms so you twisted what i said somewhat. most men like me being in control and being of service to me, so i noticed. I fail to see how I twisted your words. You stated that subs like to be used. I'm telling you that's not the case. From the conversations I've had about submission with my male sub friends, our experiences of submission tends to be quite different. They have told me male subs can have a tougher time and I'd agree. " i said on their terms, which implies they are being used in a way that suits them and we're compatible. it's not the same as being used when you use that word just by itself which makes it sound like i am being selfish and don't care what someone else wants. most guys contact me with my pleasure in mind and that is how i formed my opinion. although some guys want things that other dominants offer and won't piss off when i tell them i'm not into that stuff, i'm not into bondage at all so not compatible with these guys. i should've said some people like being used on their terms though. which i did mention later you have to be vague about this stuff really because everyone is individual after i thought a bit more about this topic. | |||
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"After ballsing up my typing on first one.... What's people's understanding / experiences of being a sub. What does it actually mean? And not the sandwich type...." I'm a slave 24/7 to my DaddyDom and we are very experienced on the BDSM scene and I would say most people have it right. Submission is a personal thing based on how the people involved set out the frame work for their relationship or the scene they wish to engage in. Limits are talked about and set, as well as types of play and the level of submission to be given. It's easier to answer more specific questions than it is to answer one like this that has such a general answer. Pm me if you have further questions. | |||
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"sexually, i think they're more likely to enjoy giving more during sex and get pleasure from other people enjoying themselves. and they like being used but on their terms. Got no desire or inclination to be 'used' by anyone! Submissive...I can only answer on what it means to me. Sometimes I submit willingly and other times I have to be forced into it. I look for a Dominant that I can trust and worthy of me idolising them. Someone I can worship and then hand over as much control as he wants. I enjoy getting lost in him with him taking the responsibility of making choices on my behalf. My Dominants tend to be sadists. I expect to get my boundaries pushed, to be stimulated physically and mentally. I expect to belong to him and for him to act with my best interests in mind. It's a lifestyle choice for me, not rough sex and being called a slut or to be used. interesting, i also said on their terms so you twisted what i said somewhat. most men like me being in control and being of service to me, so i noticed. I fail to see how I twisted your words. You stated that subs like to be used. I'm telling you that's not the case. From the conversations I've had about submission with my male sub friends, our experiences of submission tends to be quite different. They have told me male subs can have a tougher time and I'd agree. i said on their terms, which implies they are being used in a way that suits them and we're compatible. it's not the same as being used when you use that word just by itself which makes it sound like i am being selfish and don't care what someone else wants. most guys contact me with my pleasure in mind and that is how i formed my opinion. although some guys want things that other dominants offer and won't piss off when i tell them i'm not into that stuff, i'm not into bondage at all so not compatible with these guys. i should've said some people like being used on their terms though. which i did mention later you have to be vague about this stuff really because everyone is individual after i thought a bit more about this topic." It doesn't matter if I set terms, there is no using. Just because I offer myself to serve and please my Dom, his accepting me doing that doesn't equate to him using me. My terms are just my expectations and limits. My expectations are the same in any platonic, D/s or romantic relationship. If someone falls short of those, then I would leave that relationship. I'm just sick of a lot of people on this site associating a submissive with being used. Yes I consider myself my Dom's property. If I thought for a second he was using me, it would be over. My Dom has to give as much back as he receives for it to work. He just offers different things. He has to be switched on, plan, take responsibility, whereas I can just let go and enjoy/endure. Being 'used' has no place in my D/s dynamic and it riles me when swingers, it even worse, dominants thinks that it's okay to 'use' subs. | |||
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"sexually, i think they're more likely to enjoy giving more during sex and get pleasure from other people enjoying themselves. and they like being used but on their terms. Got no desire or inclination to be 'used' by anyone! Submissive...I can only answer on what it means to me. Sometimes I submit willingly and other times I have to be forced into it. I look for a Dominant that I can trust and worthy of me idolising them. Someone I can worship and then hand over as much control as he wants. I enjoy getting lost in him with him taking the responsibility of making choices on my behalf. My Dominants tend to be sadists. I expect to get my boundaries pushed, to be stimulated physically and mentally. I expect to belong to him and for him to act with my best interests in mind. It's a lifestyle choice for me, not rough sex and being called a slut or to be used. interesting, i also said on their terms so you twisted what i said somewhat. most men like me being in control and being of service to me, so i noticed. I fail to see how I twisted your words. You stated that subs like to be used. I'm telling you that's not the case. From the conversations I've had about submission with my male sub friends, our experiences of submission tends to be quite different. They have told me male subs can have a tougher time and I'd agree. i said on their terms, which implies they are being used in a way that suits them and we're compatible. it's not the same as being used when you use that word just by itself which makes it sound like i am being selfish and don't care what someone else wants. most guys contact me with my pleasure in mind and that is how i formed my opinion. although some guys want things that other dominants offer and won't piss off when i tell them i'm not into that stuff, i'm not into bondage at all so not compatible with these guys. i should've said some people like being used on their terms though. which i did mention later you have to be vague about this stuff really because everyone is individual after i thought a bit more about this topic. It doesn't matter if I set terms, there is no using. Just because I offer myself to serve and please my Dom, his accepting me doing that doesn't equate to him using me. My terms are just my expectations and limits. My expectations are the same in any platonic, D/s or romantic relationship. If someone falls short of those, then I would leave that relationship. I'm just sick of a lot of people on this site associating a submissive with being used. Yes I consider myself my Dom's property. If I thought for a second he was using me, it would be over. My Dom has to give as much back as he receives for it to work. He just offers different things. He has to be switched on, plan, take responsibility, whereas I can just let go and enjoy/endure. Being 'used' has no place in my D/s dynamic and it riles me when swingers, it even worse, dominants thinks that it's okay to 'use' subs. " i get why you'd be pissed off at that because a lot of people think using is being selfish without a thought for the submissive, but it doesn't mean that to all of us. because words have different meanings then people do use them in the wrong context, i was using them in my context that's all. i will continue to use it. i don't really like using the word serve because i'm against how the work force is run in general so in my head servitude has bad connotations and is associated with the workforce being submissive to other parts of society. although it would be appropriate to use that word as well. | |||
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"sexually, i think they're more likely to enjoy giving more during sex and get pleasure from other people enjoying themselves. and they like being used but on their terms. Got no desire or inclination to be 'used' by anyone! Submissive...I can only answer on what it means to me. Sometimes I submit willingly and other times I have to be forced into it. I look for a Dominant that I can trust and worthy of me idolising them. Someone I can worship and then hand over as much control as he wants. I enjoy getting lost in him with him taking the responsibility of making choices on my behalf. My Dominants tend to be sadists. I expect to get my boundaries pushed, to be stimulated physically and mentally. I expect to belong to him and for him to act with my best interests in mind. It's a lifestyle choice for me, not rough sex and being called a slut or to be used. interesting, i also said on their terms so you twisted what i said somewhat. most men like me being in control and being of service to me, so i noticed. I fail to see how I twisted your words. You stated that subs like to be used. I'm telling you that's not the case. From the conversations I've had about submission with my male sub friends, our experiences of submission tends to be quite different. They have told me male subs can have a tougher time and I'd agree. i said on their terms, which implies they are being used in a way that suits them and we're compatible. it's not the same as being used when you use that word just by itself which makes it sound like i am being selfish and don't care what someone else wants. most guys contact me with my pleasure in mind and that is how i formed my opinion. although some guys want things that other dominants offer and won't piss off when i tell them i'm not into that stuff, i'm not into bondage at all so not compatible with these guys. i should've said some people like being used on their terms though. which i did mention later you have to be vague about this stuff really because everyone is individual after i thought a bit more about this topic. It doesn't matter if I set terms, there is no using. Just because I offer myself to serve and please my Dom, his accepting me doing that doesn't equate to him using me. My terms are just my expectations and limits. My expectations are the same in any platonic, D/s or romantic relationship. If someone falls short of those, then I would leave that relationship. I'm just sick of a lot of people on this site associating a submissive with being used. Yes I consider myself my Dom's property. If I thought for a second he was using me, it would be over. My Dom has to give as much back as he receives for it to work. He just offers different things. He has to be switched on, plan, take responsibility, whereas I can just let go and enjoy/endure. Being 'used' has no place in my D/s dynamic and it riles me when swingers, it even worse, dominants thinks that it's okay to 'use' subs. " Well done Lilac !! I am fed up of pretend submissive who don't even know what does it mean or Doms who think using someone and abusing is what Dom is all about . It's way more to it and it doesn't have to involve sex at all . For me sex is none existent with person that submit to me . | |||
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"Tried it a few times but have found most Doms have some form of sexual hang up .Going for no Dom now much more fun " Most? Blimey, how many have you tried out of the many thousands out there? For me, sex without D/s or kink is boring and unsatisfying..... Maybe I have hang ups or am mentally damaged..... | |||
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"You may as well as how long is a piece of string. The answer is always going to be subjective and people that have had no experience will also jump in and tell you that it's wrong!" A piece of string is double its half! | |||
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"Tried it a few times but have found most Doms have some form of sexual hang up .Going for no Dom now much more fun Most? Blimey, how many have you tried out of the many thousands out there? For me, sex without D/s or kink is boring and unsatisfying..... Maybe I have hang ups or am mentally damaged..... " A few but not an excessive amount | |||
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"I think these posts show its unique to each individual how, when and to whom they submit. Some live being "used" sexually, others don't. Most seem to love discipline and punishment, but that's a hard limit for me.... And really, there's no such thing as a "true submissive" as everyone is different. A good D/s relationship is symbiotic, not parasitic. Each side of the slash empowers the other to be better, stronger in their own unique way. Submissive and slave are different though to most people on the scene. A submissive can safeword out of a scene, a slave cannot. (In theory; in practice of course they can, but then the relationship is not the same)." | |||
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"It's subjective. You gift your submission, but it's worth spending time finding the right person to receive that gift. " I don't gift my submission. At all. Sometimes I weigh up my options and will submit to someone. Sometimes the chemistry between a Dom and me just seduces me into it. Other times it's taken from me even when I try to fight it. | |||
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"The only thing to take from this is that there are different types of submissives who have their own individual desires in the same way as domination can take different forms. I was at a fetish club last night and some guy spent the evening prostrate on the floor in front of his mistress. Another guy was tied up and fellated. Someone l am talking to wants to be utterly poweless and fucked by different men. The danger in defining any terms or relationships, particarly in kink is the human trait of excluding things you do not like on the basis they do not ount as being "real". We see this in trying to define "swinging". The guys being anally fisted last night by their dommes made me clench all night long. Not my thing but it is their form of submission or play. To me the key components are the sub trusts that the dom (usually after a proper negotiation) has the sub's best interests at heart and wants the sub to fulfill their perverse potential. In return the dom/domme genuinely has the sub's interests at heart and the aims and objects of the dom/dommes concide with that of the sub's. I used to see myself as a sensual dom but actually l see myself as a temporary facilitator of perverse pleasure as I am too lazy to be a 24/7 it is too much like hard work! " Also known as a " service top" | |||
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"sexually, i think they're more likely to enjoy giving more during sex and get pleasure from other people enjoying themselves. and they like being used but on their terms. Got no desire or inclination to be 'used' by anyone! Submissive...I can only answer on what it means to me. Sometimes I submit willingly and other times I have to be forced into it. I look for a Dominant that I can trust and worthy of me idolising them. Someone I can worship and then hand over as much control as he wants. I enjoy getting lost in him with him taking the responsibility of making choices on my behalf. My Dominants tend to be sadists. I expect to get my boundaries pushed, to be stimulated physically and mentally. I expect to belong to him and for him to act with my best interests in mind. It's a lifestyle choice for me, not rough sex and being called a slut or to be used. " | |||
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"The only thing to take from this is that there are different types of submissives who have their own individual desires in the same way as domination can take different forms. I was at a fetish club last night and some guy spent the evening prostrate on the floor in front of his mistress. Another guy was tied up and fellated. Someone l am talking to wants to be utterly poweless and fucked by different men. The danger in defining any terms or relationships, particarly in kink is the human trait of excluding things you do not like on the basis they do not ount as being "real". We see this in trying to define "swinging". The guys being anally fisted last night by their dommes made me clench all night long. Not my thing but it is their form of submission or play. To me the key components are the sub trusts that the dom (usually after a proper negotiation) has the sub's best interests at heart and wants the sub to fulfill their perverse potential. In return the dom/domme genuinely has the sub's interests at heart and the aims and objects of the dom/dommes concide with that of the sub's. I used to see myself as a sensual dom but actually l see myself as a temporary facilitator of perverse pleasure as I am too lazy to be a 24/7 it is too much like hard work! Also known as a " service top" " Lol | |||
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"Alot of really interesting answers, thanks. I get then, that it is something of relational aspect that can develop as opposed to being a definitive label....? and everone is different, having different boundaries.... seems I need to get over my nerves and get to a munch perhaps!" Definitely try a few munches as they all have a different dynamic. I would go to some events with a like minded friend to see how different relationships work. If you have not joined l would recommend that you join the site 'whose name shall not be written' and see what is on around you. | |||
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"It's totally subjective, dozens of different answers and non of them wrong" This... it's all subjective what each person gets out of it I would think. I can be very submissive but I try not to think about why that is... am sure there's all sorts of psychological theories out there. But I choose to just accept it is how I am | |||
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"How do mean "you can't work the site" whose name may not be written for fear of a block, or its release from the tower of Azkaban." for a start, every time I have to request a new password....which bores me. And then when I'm actually in it.... er, what is there to do! I can't work it! I've found the events, and some screens with dark odes to gothic gods of poetry...but, well, I can't work it! | |||
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"How do mean "you can't work the site" whose name may not be written for fear of a block, or its release from the tower of Azkaban. for a start, every time I have to request a new password....which bores me. And then when I'm actually in it.... er, what is there to do! I can't work it! I've found the events, and some screens with dark odes to gothic gods of poetry...but, well, I can't work it!" I tried to PM but can't. It's worth persevering with that other site. Once you get the hang of it, it has a wealth of info on it. You're more than welcome to find me on there and then you can see what groups I belong to and have a mooch around them. SubmissiveLilac | |||
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"How do mean "you can't work the site" whose name may not be written for fear of a block, or its release from the tower of Azkaban. for a start, every time I have to request a new password....which bores me. And then when I'm actually in it.... er, what is there to do! I can't work it! I've found the events, and some screens with dark odes to gothic gods of poetry...but, well, I can't work it!" Lol, that basically is it. I'm only on there now for the events myself and i get them emailed to me so i don't have to login. Any groups that aren't dead are full of pretentious bores or fantasists, or married men indulging in kink online. | |||
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"How do mean "you can't work the site" whose name may not be written for fear of a block, or its release from the tower of Azkaban. for a start, every time I have to request a new password....which bores me. And then when I'm actually in it.... er, what is there to do! I can't work it! I've found the events, and some screens with dark odes to gothic gods of Hipoetry...but, well, I can't work it! Lol, that basically is it. I'm only on there now for the events myself and i get them emailed to me so i don't have to login. Any groups that aren't dead are full of pretentious bores or fantasists, or married men indulging in kink online. " Sorry l have to correct you in what you say. l am a member of a number of groups that have great information and are very helpful. I have the same profile name on that site you can check the groups l am in to see if they match your comments. Although l admit when it comes to rope l can be evangelical and thus boring but hopefully not pretentiously so. Lol | |||
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"How do mean "you can't work the site" whose name may not be written for fear of a block, or its release from the tower of Azkaban. for a start, every time I have to request a new password....which bores me. And then when I'm actually in it.... er, what is there to do! I can't work it! I've found the events, and some screens with dark odes to gothic gods of Hipoetry...but, well, I can't work it! Lol, that basically is it. I'm only on there now for the events myself and i get them emailed to me so i don't have to login. Any groups that aren't dead are full of pretentious bores or fantasists, or married men indulging in kink online. Sorry l have to correct you in what you say. l am a member of a number of groups that have great information and are very helpful. I have the same profile name on that site you can check the groups l am in to see if they match your comments. Although l admit when it comes to rope l can be evangelical and thus boring but hopefully not pretentiously so. Lol " No it's ok. I'm fine with my opinion of that site and do not wish to waste a single minute more on there. I use specialist sites of things that hold my interest rather than one that generalises in everything and nothing. | |||
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"How do mean "you can't work the site" whose name may not be written for fear of a block, or its release from the tower of Azkaban. for a start, every time I have to request a new password....which bores me. And then when I'm actually in it.... er, what is there to do! I can't work it! I've found the events, and some screens with dark odes to gothic gods of Hipoetry...but, well, I can't work it! Lol, that basically is it. I'm only on there now for the events myself and i get them emailed to me so i don't have to login. Any groups that aren't dead are full of pretentious bores or fantasists, or married men indulging in kink online. Sorry l have to correct you in what you say. l am a member of a number of groups that have great information and are very helpful. I have the same profile name on that site you can check the groups l am in to see if they match your comments. Although l admit when it comes to rope l can be evangelical and thus boring but hopefully not pretentiously so. Lol " I also disagree with Feir. It can be a really good resource tool if you know what you're looking for. I've made some really good friends on there and a mentor. I've found where to buy decent, reasonably priced kit, event and munch info, techniques in trying new kinks, even warnings on predators to stay away from. There is a really strong local community on there. They are the best ones to talk to and I'll happily point you in the right direction. It's just the same as this site. Fakes and dreamers are mixed in with the genuine folk. | |||
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"How do mean "you can't work the site" whose name may not be written for fear of a block, or its release from the tower of Azkaban. for a start, every time I have to request a new password....which bores me. And then when I'm actually in it.... er, what is there to do! I can't work it! I've found the events, and some screens with dark odes to gothic gods of Hipoetry...but, well, I can't work it! Lol, that basically is it. I'm only on there now for the events myself and i get them emailed to me so i don't have to login. Any groups that aren't dead are full of pretentious bores or fantasists, or married men indulging in kink online. Sorry l have to correct you in what you say. l am a member of a number of groups that have great information and are very helpful. I have the same profile name on that site you can check the groups l am in to see if they match your comments. Although l admit when it comes to rope l can be evangelical and thus boring but hopefully not pretentiously so. Lol I also disagree with Feir. It can be a really good resource tool if you know what you're looking for. I've made some really good friends on there and a mentor. I've found where to buy decent, reasonably priced kit, event and munch info, techniques in trying new kinks, even warnings on predators to stay away from. There is a really strong local community on there. They are the best ones to talk to and I'll happily point you in the right direction. It's just the same as this site. Fakes and dreamers are mixed in with the genuine folk. " Totally agree it's a very useful site and I've made a great many friends in the community | |||
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"However l am not sure how to resolve your password problem, possibly another member could help? " The admins did reset it once. Just keeps happening since anyway! I'll just keep at it. And on the other posts, i guess we all have different experiences as i wanrs are different. So, well, i shall keep at it! | |||
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