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"How am I supposed to catch anyone's interest on here when not a single woman will meet people with no verifications, fighting a losing battle and I'm horny as hell ??????" Eventually you will meet a woman or couple that don't care if you haven't got one | |||
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"How am I supposed to catch anyone's interest on here when not a single woman will meet people with no verifications, fighting a losing battle and I'm horny as hell ??????" Sorry, too young for me xx | |||
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"...not a single woman will meet people with no verifications" Bit of a generalisation.. | |||
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"How am I supposed to catch anyone's interest on here when not a single woman will meet people with no verifications, fighting a losing battle and I'm horny as hell ??????" good luck u will need it  | |||
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"How am I supposed to catch anyone's interest on here when not a single woman will meet people with no verifications, fighting a losing battle and I'm horny as hell ??????" Verifications mean nothing to me. I don't read them, I don't want them, I don't leave them. And I will certainly meet men who don't have verifications, subject to them passing all my usual checks. However, I tend not to meet men who publicly post that they are 'horny as hell', as that suggests to me that they are concerned more with their own gratification than in the mutual pleasure which Fab meets should bring. | |||
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"Find a social near to you or go to a club" Don't bother with the clubs if you're just getting started - if you don't already know people there, as a single male you're just part of the scenery, and usually an inconvenient one. | |||
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"Been there. My advice is be patient, join in the forums and get your self known. There are great threads out there like the face pic and date one which are great conversation starters, Good luck" Good advise. Polite messages suggesting a meet in a cafe may work. Be patient  | |||
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"Find a social near to you or go to a club Don't bother with the clubs if you're just getting started - if you don't already know people there, as a single male you're just part of the scenery, and usually an inconvenient one." I disagree with this. Went to a club with a single guy recently, it was his 1st time. Once there we went our separate ways for a bit....went to check up on him and he was in the middle of a 5 person orgy! Think as long as you are approachable and friendly you can have an enjoyable experience at the clubs. X | |||
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"Find a social near to you or go to a club Don't bother with the clubs if you're just getting started - if you don't already know people there, as a single male you're just part of the scenery, and usually an inconvenient one. I disagree with this. Went to a club with a single guy recently, it was his 1st time. Once there we went our separate ways for a bit....went to check up on him and he was in the middle of a 5 person orgy! Think as long as you are approachable and friendly you can have an enjoyable experience at the clubs. X " You should have been with me at AbFabs last night, then. I must have approached a couple of dozen people - eye contact, smile, friendly hello, everything you're supposed to do. Every single one just looked at me with disdain and turned away. Couldn't even be bothered to be polite. | |||
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"Find a social near to you or go to a club Don't bother with the clubs if you're just getting started - if you don't already know people there, as a single male you're just part of the scenery, and usually an inconvenient one. I disagree with this. Went to a club with a single guy recently, it was his 1st time. Once there we went our separate ways for a bit....went to check up on him and he was in the middle of a 5 person orgy! Think as long as you are approachable and friendly you can have an enjoyable experience at the clubs. X You should have been with me at AbFabs last night, then. I must have approached a couple of dozen people - eye contact, smile, friendly hello, everything you're supposed to do. Every single one just looked at me with disdain and turned away. Couldn't even be bothered to be polite." Is that 23rd Jan veri a fake then? Whatever you're doing, you're doing right! | |||
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"How am I supposed to catch anyone's interest on here when not a single woman will meet people with no verifications, fighting a losing battle and I'm horny as hell ??????" Join in on the forums, chat rooms, go to a social, go to a club, check out the meets section and join in. | |||
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"Do you often have these experiences in clubs ?" Pretty much every time. Yes, I know that means it's probably me that's the problem. No, I don't know what I'm doing wrong since no one whose seen it can be bothered to tell me. | |||
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"Find a social near to you or go to a club Don't bother with the clubs if you're just getting started - if you don't already know people there, as a single male you're just part of the scenery, and usually an inconvenient one. I disagree with this. Went to a club with a single guy recently, it was his 1st time. Once there we went our separate ways for a bit....went to check up on him and he was in the middle of a 5 person orgy! Think as long as you are approachable and friendly you can have an enjoyable experience at the clubs. X You should have been with me at AbFabs last night, then. I must have approached a couple of dozen people - eye contact, smile, friendly hello, everything you're supposed to do. Every single one just looked at me with disdain and turned away. Couldn't even be bothered to be polite. Is that 23rd Jan veri a fake then? Whatever you're doing, you're doing right! " That's from a one-on-one social this afternoon, not the club. | |||
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"Oh look, silence from the peanut gallery. Quick to criticise, never to help." To be fair, how are they supposed to know what you are doing wrong if they're not there to witness it? You say you're doing all the right things, but how do we know that? It's therefore difficult to advise. | |||
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"Find a social near to you or go to a club Don't bother with the clubs if you're just getting started - if you don't already know people there, as a single male you're just part of the scenery, and usually an inconvenient one. I disagree with this. Went to a club with a single guy recently, it was his 1st time. Once there we went our separate ways for a bit....went to check up on him and he was in the middle of a 5 person orgy! Think as long as you are approachable and friendly you can have an enjoyable experience at the clubs. X You should have been with me at AbFabs last night, then. I must have approached a couple of dozen people - eye contact, smile, friendly hello, everything you're supposed to do. Every single one just looked at me with disdain and turned away. Couldn't even be bothered to be polite." I was at a club last night. I sat at the bar, chatted to people, and so on. Not one guy approached me. Not one. Don't ever think that only men have problems at clubs. | |||
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"You're coming across as rather aggressive. Are you perhaps giving off that vibe in person without realising it? " I'd be shocked if I was, no one's ever called me aggressive in my life. | |||
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"Find a social near to you or go to a club Don't bother with the clubs if you're just getting started - if you don't already know people there, as a single male you're just part of the scenery, and usually an inconvenient one. I disagree with this. Went to a club with a single guy recently, it was his 1st time. Once there we went our separate ways for a bit....went to check up on him and he was in the middle of a 5 person orgy! Think as long as you are approachable and friendly you can have an enjoyable experience at the clubs. X You should have been with me at AbFabs last night, then. I must have approached a couple of dozen people - eye contact, smile, friendly hello, everything you're supposed to do. Every single one just looked at me with disdain and turned away. Couldn't even be bothered to be polite. I was at a club last night. I sat at the bar, chatted to people, and so on. Not one guy approached me. Not one. Don't ever think that only men have problems at clubs." I'm not surprised, after the last couple of times it'll be weeks at least before I'm willing to try approaching someone. If a polite, respectful approach won't even get a hello in return, why would anyone bother? And for the record I don't expect women or couples to approach me, I learned that lesson long ago - it's happened three times in as many years, all of them by people who were ultimately wasting my time. | |||
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"Fwiw, the majority of single guys I've seen at clubs have been pleasant and courteous. Occasionally there might be one that seems nervous and keeping to themselves, I always try to include them in conversations" If my experience is anything to go by, you're in a vanishingly small minority. Thanks for trying, and I wish there were more like you. | |||
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"Again, as I wasn't there I can't answer that. But I can't imagine that every single person in a club was giving you dirty looks as you're implying. As you say this has occurred a few times, are you talking about the same club, or are you going to different ones? What actually happens when you approach someone? Talk us through it. " Usually I'm at AbFabs or MSD (things are usually a little better there). And I didn't say every single person was giving me dirty looks - only the ones I'm trying to interact with, the rest seem perfectly happy to ignore me entirely. As to talking you through it... I see a couple I'd like to talk to (it's almost always a couple, I rarely bother trying to talk to single women and I NEVER knowingly approach one member of a couple when they're apart). I wait for something resembling an opening before walking up to them, try to make eye contact and smile on the way in. Usually at this point one of them will notice me, frown or glare and turn so that their back is angled towards me, shutting me out, at which point I'll withdraw. Occasionally I'll get close enough to say hello; usually this leads to a perfunctory hello in response, followed by both of them falling silent and looking anywhere but at me until I get the message, other times they don't even bother with the hello. I've never caught someone's eye, smiled and received a smile in response or any form of active invitation to join the conversation, and as I said earlier people starting a conversation with me happens about once a year and has never been meant to lead to anything. | |||
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"How am I supposed to catch anyone's interest on here when not a single woman will meet people with no verifications, fighting a losing battle and I'm horny as hell ??????" with that attitude it's hardly surprising  | |||
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"How am I supposed to catch anyone's interest on here when not a single woman will meet people with no verifications, fighting a losing battle and I'm horny as hell ?????? with that attitude it's hardly surprising "Yes you can almost hear the stamping of tiny feet! | |||
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"I don't understand why they would glare at you or turn their back on you if they haven't even spoken to you. Is it just you, or is this happening to other single guys?" I don't understand it either. I haven't spent a lot time watching other single men to see how they're doing, but when I have they seem to fall into two groups - the cautious ones like me who don't seem to get anywhere (or don't feel able to try) and the pusher ones who seem to get get better results by doing the things single men aren't supposed to do. It looks to me like couples either don't much care about how they're approached, in which case the pushy men shove their way to the head of the queue, or they blank single men on principle. "Once you say hello and they reply, how do you follow that up? " In the face of a blatant indication that they're not interested in speaking to me? I don't. I respect their wishes and leave. | |||
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"Again, as I wasn't there I can't answer that. But I can't imagine that every single person in a club was giving you dirty looks as you're implying. As you say this has occurred a few times, are you talking about the same club, or are you going to different ones? What actually happens when you approach someone? Talk us through it. Usually I'm at AbFabs or MSD (things are usually a little better there). And I didn't say every single person was giving me dirty looks - only the ones I'm trying to interact with, the rest seem perfectly happy to ignore me entirely. As to talking you through it... I see a couple I'd like to talk to (it's almost always a couple, I rarely bother trying to talk to single women and I NEVER knowingly approach one member of a couple when they're apart). I wait for something resembling an opening before walking up to them, try to make eye contact and smile on the way in. Usually at this point one of them will notice me, frown or glare and turn so that their back is angled towards me, shutting me out, at which point I'll withdraw. Occasionally I'll get close enough to say hello; usually this leads to a perfunctory hello in response, followed by both of them falling silent and looking anywhere but at me until I get the message, other times they don't even bother with the hello. I've never caught someone's eye, smiled and received a smile in response or any form of active invitation to join the conversation, and as I said earlier people starting a conversation with me happens about once a year and has never been meant to lead to anything." Rather than approaching all the couples , why not ascertain which couples are likely to be looking for the attention of a single guy first ? There are a high % of couples who only want the attention of other couples , and they will treat you with disdain . We enjoy single guys as much as anything else , and make it clear . Sabrina will smile and give the come on to single guys , thus giving the green light to approach us .  | |||
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"I don't understand why they would glare at you or turn their back on you if they haven't even spoken to you. Is it just you, or is this happening to other single guys? I don't understand it either. I haven't spent a lot time watching other single men to see how they're doing, but when I have they seem to fall into two groups - the cautious ones like me who don't seem to get anywhere (or don't feel able to try) and the pusher ones who seem to get get better results by doing the things single men aren't supposed to do. It looks to me like couples either don't much care about how they're approached, in which case the pushy men shove their way to the head of the queue, or they blank single men on principle. Once you say hello and they reply, how do you follow that up? In the face of a blatant indication that they're not interested in speaking to me? I don't. I respect their wishes and leave." Well, I don't know what it's like down south but pushy men don't get anywhere up here, and neither do wallflowers. Confidence is key, arrogance is not attractive. I don't know what you mean by single guys doing things they're not supposed to do, though. I don't think people replying to your hi with the same is a blatant indication. Do you then follow up by asking if they're enjoying their night, or what they're looking for? Tbh it sounds like you were initially rejected a few times and now you see everyone as not being interested and looking down their nose. Unless everyone in the clubs you frequent is a tosser I really can't see that being the case. And it's possible that they are picking up on a vibe from you that you are unaware you're giving off. I would suggest you stop going to clubs for a while as it's obviously doing your confidence no good. Or maybe a weekend away somewhere, a good distance away where there's another club and a totally different crowd and see if there's a change. If there isn't, then I'm sorry but I would say that the problem does seem to be you, so perhaps look at your approach and work out how you can do things differently. Perhaps take a female friend with you? | |||
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"Again, as I wasn't there I can't answer that. But I can't imagine that every single person in a club was giving you dirty looks as you're implying. As you say this has occurred a few times, are you talking about the same club, or are you going to different ones? What actually happens when you approach someone? Talk us through it. Usually I'm at AbFabs or MSD (things are usually a little better there). And I didn't say every single person was giving me dirty looks - only the ones I'm trying to interact with, the rest seem perfectly happy to ignore me entirely. As to talking you through it... I see a couple I'd like to talk to (it's almost always a couple, I rarely bother trying to talk to single women and I NEVER knowingly approach one member of a couple when they're apart). I wait for something resembling an opening before walking up to them, try to make eye contact and smile on the way in. Usually at this point one of them will notice me, frown or glare and turn so that their back is angled towards me, shutting me out, at which point I'll withdraw. Occasionally I'll get close enough to say hello; usually this leads to a perfunctory hello in response, followed by both of them falling silent and looking anywhere but at me until I get the message, other times they don't even bother with the hello. I've never caught someone's eye, smiled and received a smile in response or any form of active invitation to join the conversation, and as I said earlier people starting a conversation with me happens about once a year and has never been meant to lead to anything. Rather than approaching all the couples , why not ascertain which couples are likely to be looking for the attention of a single guy first ? There are a high % of couples who only want the attention of other couples , and they will treat you with disdain . We enjoy single guys as much as anything else , and make it clear . Sabrina will smile and give the come on to single guys , thus giving the green light to approach us . "Firstly, the fact that you're not looking to play with a particular type of person doesn't give u on the right to be rude. Second, how exactly do I ascertain which couples might be looking for single men without speaking to them? | |||
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"Well, I don't know what it's like down south but pushy men don't get anywhere up here, and neither do wallflowers. Confidence is key, arrogance is not attractive. I don't know what you mean by single guys doing things they're not supposed to do, though. I don't think people replying to your hi with the same is a blatant indication. Do you then follow up by asking if they're enjoying their night, or what they're looking for? Tbh it sounds like you were initially rejected a few times and now you see everyone as not being interested and looking down their nose. Unless everyone in the clubs you frequent is a tosser I really can't see that being the case. And it's possible that they are picking up on a vibe from you that you are unaware you're giving off. I would suggest you stop going to clubs for a while as it's obviously doing your confidence no good. Or maybe a weekend away somewhere, a good distance away where there's another club and a totally different crowd and see if there's a change. If there isn't, then I'm sorry but I would say that the problem does seem to be you, so perhaps look at your approach and work out how you can do things differently. Perhaps take a female friend with you? " A reply of hello isn't an indication (just a rarity), it's the body language that goes with it, turning away, refusing to even look at me until I leave. I think it probably is some vibe I'm giving off, but in the absence of information on what I'm doing wrong I can't fix it. As for going with a female friend... I'm planning a trip to VA with one next month, so it CAN be done. I've only managed it once before with a decent woman, though. I mean decent in the ethical sense, there have been possibilities with others but they've only been after someone to pay their entry fee or provide transport. | |||
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"Again, as I wasn't there I can't answer that. But I can't imagine that every single person in a club was giving you dirty looks as you're implying. As you say this has occurred a few times, are you talking about the same club, or are you going to different ones? What actually happens when you approach someone? Talk us through it. Usually I'm at AbFabs or MSD (things are usually a little better there). And I didn't say every single person was giving me dirty looks - only the ones I'm trying to interact with, the rest seem perfectly happy to ignore me entirely. As to talking you through it... I see a couple I'd like to talk to (it's almost always a couple, I rarely bother trying to talk to single women and I NEVER knowingly approach one member of a couple when they're apart). I wait for something resembling an opening before walking up to them, try to make eye contact and smile on the way in. Usually at this point one of them will notice me, frown or glare and turn so that their back is angled towards me, shutting me out, at which point I'll withdraw. Occasionally I'll get close enough to say hello; usually this leads to a perfunctory hello in response, followed by both of them falling silent and looking anywhere but at me until I get the message, other times they don't even bother with the hello. I've never caught someone's eye, smiled and received a smile in response or any form of active invitation to join the conversation, and as I said earlier people starting a conversation with me happens about once a year and has never been meant to lead to anything. Rather than approaching all the couples , why not ascertain which couples are likely to be looking for the attention of a single guy first ? There are a high % of couples who only want the attention of other couples , and they will treat you with disdain . We enjoy single guys as much as anything else , and make it clear . Sabrina will smile and give the come on to single guys , thus giving the green light to approach us .
Firstly, the fact that you're not looking to play with a particular type of person doesn't give u on the right to be rude. Second, how exactly do I ascertain which couples might be looking for single men without speaking to them?"Firstly , I'm afraid it does , as if you were in a pub and a random stranger approached you and you didn't want to talk to them you would have every right to be rude . Secondly , I made that perfectly clear in my post - you look for the couples where the female is giving you the eye . There really does seem to be a sense of entitlement from you coming through here . I have tried to answer your points and we meet single men . Yet you still seem to hang on to the belief that you should be able to play the numbers game and approach every couple in a club until you find one who likes you . This is not the case , and if we saw you doing this in a club , we would turn you down as that kind of behaviour is not what we seek . If we were the tenth couple you approached , we would feel we were way down in the pecking order . | |||
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"Well, I don't know what it's like down south but pushy men don't get anywhere up here, and neither do wallflowers. Confidence is key, arrogance is not attractive. I don't know what you mean by single guys doing things they're not supposed to do, though. I don't think people replying to your hi with the same is a blatant indication. Do you then follow up by asking if they're enjoying their night, or what they're looking for? Tbh it sounds like you were initially rejected a few times and now you see everyone as not being interested and looking down their nose. Unless everyone in the clubs you frequent is a tosser I really can't see that being the case. And it's possible that they are picking up on a vibe from you that you are unaware you're giving off. I would suggest you stop going to clubs for a while as it's obviously doing your confidence no good. Or maybe a weekend away somewhere, a good distance away where there's another club and a totally different crowd and see if there's a change. If there isn't, then I'm sorry but I would say that the problem does seem to be you, so perhaps look at your approach and work out how you can do things differently. Perhaps take a female friend with you? A reply of hello isn't an indication (just a rarity), it's the body language that goes with it, turning away, refusing to even look at me until I leave. I think it probably is some vibe I'm giving off, but in the absence of information on what I'm doing wrong I can't fix it. As for going with a female friend... I'm planning a trip to VA with one next month, so it CAN be done. I've only managed it once before with a decent woman, though. I mean decent in the ethical sense, there have been possibilities with others but they've only been after someone to pay their entry fee or provide transport." Good luck, hope it goes well. | |||
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"Again, as I wasn't there I can't answer that. But I can't imagine that every single person in a club was giving you dirty looks as you're implying. As you say this has occurred a few times, are you talking about the same club, or are you going to different ones? What actually happens when you approach someone? Talk us through it. Usually I'm at AbFabs or MSD (things are usually a little better there). And I didn't say every single person was giving me dirty looks - only the ones I'm trying to interact with, the rest seem perfectly happy to ignore me entirely. As to talking you through it... I see a couple I'd like to talk to (it's almost always a couple, I rarely bother trying to talk to single women and I NEVER knowingly approach one member of a couple when they're apart). I wait for something resembling an opening before walking up to them, try to make eye contact and smile on the way in. Usually at this point one of them will notice me, frown or glare and turn so that their back is angled towards me, shutting me out, at which point I'll withdraw. Occasionally I'll get close enough to say hello; usually this leads to a perfunctory hello in response, followed by both of them falling silent and looking anywhere but at me until I get the message, other times they don't even bother with the hello. I've never caught someone's eye, smiled and received a smile in response or any form of active invitation to join the conversation, and as I said earlier people starting a conversation with me happens about once a year and has never been meant to lead to anything. Rather than approaching all the couples , why not ascertain which couples are likely to be looking for the attention of a single guy first ? There are a high % of couples who only want the attention of other couples , and they will treat you with disdain . We enjoy single guys as much as anything else , and make it clear . Sabrina will smile and give the come on to single guys , thus giving the green light to approach us .
Firstly, the fact that you're not looking to play with a particular type of person doesn't give u on the right to be rude. Second, how exactly do I ascertain which couples might be looking for single men without speaking to them?
Firstly , I'm afraid it does , as if you were in a pub and a random stranger approached you and you didn't want to talk to them you would have every right to be rude .
Secondly , I made that perfectly clear in my post - you look for the couples where the female is giving you the eye .
There really does seem to be a sense of entitlement from you coming through here . I have tried to answer your points and we meet single men . Yet you still seem to hang on to the belief that you should be able to play the numbers game and approach every couple in a club until you find one who likes you . This is not the case , and if we saw you doing this in a club , we would turn you down as that kind of behaviour is not what we seek . If we were the tenth couple you approached , we would feel we were way down in the pecking order .
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"How am I supposed to catch anyone's interest on here when not a single woman will meet people with no verifications, fighting a losing battle and I'm horny as hell ?????? Join in on the forums, chat rooms, go to a social, go to a club, check out the meets section and join in. " So much for that then. Was my advice so off the scale? | |||
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"As I said, it's only very, very rarely that I DO get past the hellos. And asking people who've already indicated they don't want to talk to me for advice - wouldn't that be rude? Pushy? Trying to force them to talk to me? Seriously, I don't understand the rules here." QuietlyKinky: you're getting meets so whatever you're going, you're doing it right. Why worry? | |||
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"How am I supposed to catch anyone's interest on here when not a single woman will meet people with no verifications, fighting a losing battle and I'm horny as hell ?????? Join in on the forums, chat rooms, go to a social, go to a club, check out the meets section and join in. So much for that then. Was my advice so off the scale? " He just wanted to empty his balls. He obviously didn't want to have to make any effort. | |||
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"I don't know what your doing wrong because I've never seen you. But it would seem something is wrong. Perhaps you selection is wrong, but I think you should bear in my mind nobody owes you anything even politeness. Couples who look for single guys are in a buyers market and initially looks are the opener then attitude and personality I'm sure that sounds harsh but it is true " Yes, they do owe me politeness, and they owe it to everyone else as well who hasn't personally done something to deserve taking it away. That's just basic human decency. I expect it of myself, and I expect of everyone else as well. | |||
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"Steve, whose verifications are you looking at, because they're not mine? My last two are from a one-to-one social that was nice but won't go any further and the one couple I've met at a club in the last year who've deigned to talk to me - again, nice, but not going to lead to any more. Prior to that it's all from large socials (and most of thise veris are from the hosts, so they're just saying i turned up and wasnt an arse) until my last actual meet which was nearly two years ago. So no, I'm not doing it right." Socials for me are part of swinging. People appear to like talking to you, so sex can develop from there. Or from here in the forum. Or from clubs (or not)....dunno. I've never been to a club. I wouldn't go up to a couple and just say 'hello', I'd say a bit more. Exactly what would depend on the situation. | |||
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"I don't know what your doing wrong because I've never seen you. But it would seem something is wrong. Perhaps you selection is wrong, but I think you should bear in my mind nobody owes you anything even politeness. Couples who look for single guys are in a buyers market and initially looks are the opener then attitude and personality I'm sure that sounds harsh but it is true Yes, they do owe me politeness, and they owe it to everyone else as well who hasn't personally done something to deserve taking it away. That's just basic human decency. I expect it of myself, and I expect of everyone else as well." While I agree it would be nice if everyone is polite, I don't think you are owed that. There are lots of reasons why people just don't say sorry we are not interested. | |||
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" While I agree it would be nice if everyone is polite, I don't think you are owed that. There are lots of reasons why people just don't say sorry we are not interested. " Well we'll have to agree to disagree on that. I'm not willing to give up on the basics of civilised behaviour just because some on the scene thinks it's acceptable for those who have power to abuse those who don't. | |||
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"Obviously I don't just go with a one- word hello, I was paraphrasing. "How's your evening", "nice dress", "I like your tie" (don't ignore the male half of the couple". And I'm sorry but getting a verification from the host of a social doesn't mean people talk to you. I've been blanked as much at 'socials' as at clubs, though I'm more willing to forgive that as the noise levels are usually higher." Oh I see....I go up to people at socials - once there was a couple sitting on their own looking quite shy so I went up and started chatting and about a minute later about 4 other guys joined our table, so I walked off and left them to it. At least they got chatting that evening! I don't know why people would blank you. Maybe in the face of it, it does appear rude but you can imagine if the couple have had single men come up to them all evening (get in early) then their patience may have worn off. It might be easier for them to ignore than get into conversation, the end of which is 'we don't fancy you, your face is like an accident to a babboons infected arse' or similar effect.....  | |||
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"Get yourself to a club.. Then people can se the real you that's what we did "I assume you're replying to the OP who has now left the site? | |||
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" While I agree it would be nice if everyone is polite, I don't think you are owed that. There are lots of reasons why people just don't say sorry we are not interested. Well we'll have to agree to disagree on that. I'm not willing to give up on the basics of civilised behaviour just because some on the scene thinks it's acceptable for those who have power to abuse those who don't. " I'm with you on this. 
Think of it as a lucky escape. I don't want anything to do with people that think they don't owe people basic respect and politeness. | |||
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" While I agree it would be nice if everyone is polite, I don't think you are owed that. There are lots of reasons why people just don't say sorry we are not interested. Well we'll have to agree to disagree on that. I'm not willing to give up on the basics of civilised behaviour just because some on the scene thinks it's acceptable for those who have power to abuse those who don't. I'm with you on this.
Think of it as a lucky escape. I don't want anything to do with people that think they don't owe people basic respect and politeness. "Well quite simply as I said before , they don't . No one owes anyone anything . You can keep saying that everyone should be polite , and that those with the power don't act in a civilised way to those who don't , but the bottom line is this . Your current way isn't working . End of . So change your thinking , listen to what advice is being given , and stop trying to change the thinking of those you are criticising . | |||
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" While I agree it would be nice if everyone is polite, I don't think you are owed that. There are lots of reasons why people just don't say sorry we are not interested. Well we'll have to agree to disagree on that. I'm not willing to give up on the basics of civilised behaviour just because some on the scene thinks it's acceptable for those who have power to abuse those who don't. I'm with you on this.
Think of it as a lucky escape. I don't want anything to do with people that think they don't owe people basic respect and politeness.
Well quite simply as I said before , they don't .
No one owes anyone anything .
You can keep saying that everyone should be polite , and that those with the power don't act in a civilised way to those who don't , but the bottom line is this . Your current way isn't working . End of .
So change your thinking , listen to what advice is being given , and stop trying to change the thinking of those you are criticising .
"I shall continue to live my life in a respectful manner. I won't be changing. My way way works fine thank you. I don't see how I am attempting to change the behaviour of other people. If those people are ignorant and disrespectful I highly doubt they give a shit what I think. Unless they feel guilty, in which case perhaps they will change of their own accord. | |||
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" I shall continue to live my life in a respectful manner. I won't be changing. My way way works fine thank you. I don't see how I am attempting to change the behaviour of other people. If those people are ignorant and disrespectful I highly doubt they give a shit what I think. Unless they feel guilty, in which case perhaps they will change of their own accord. " | |||
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"How am I supposed to catch anyone's interest on here when not a single woman will meet people with no verifications, fighting a losing battle and I'm horny as hell ??????" Wont get any verifications being UNLOS | |||
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" While I agree it would be nice if everyone is polite, I don't think you are owed that. There are lots of reasons why people just don't say sorry we are not interested. Well we'll have to agree to disagree on that. I'm not willing to give up on the basics of civilised behaviour just because some on the scene thinks it's acceptable for those who have power to abuse those who don't. I'm with you on this.
Think of it as a lucky escape. I don't want anything to do with people that think they don't owe people basic respect and politeness.
Well quite simply as I said before , they don't .
No one owes anyone anything .
You can keep saying that everyone should be polite , and that those with the power don't act in a civilised way to those who don't , but the bottom line is this . Your current way isn't working . End of .
So change your thinking , listen to what advice is being given , and stop trying to change the thinking of those you are criticising .
I shall continue to live my life in a respectful manner. I won't be changing. My way way works fine thank you.
I don't see how I am attempting to change the behaviour of other people. If those people are ignorant and disrespectful I highly doubt they give a shit what I think. Unless they feel guilty, in which case perhaps they will change of their own accord. "Lol ... Once again I have messed up the quote button . Scarlet , I hardly see you you complaining that your approach in clubs isn't working , so my comments were aimed at the post you agreed with , not you . | |||
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"How am I supposed to catch anyone's interest on here when not a single woman will meet people with no verifications, fighting a losing battle and I'm horny as hell ?????? Sorry, too young for me xx" he wasn't asking! | |||
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" While I agree it would be nice if everyone is polite, I don't think you are owed that. There are lots of reasons why people just don't say sorry we are not interested. Well we'll have to agree to disagree on that. I'm not willing to give up on the basics of civilised behaviour just because some on the scene thinks it's acceptable for those who have power to abuse those who don't. I'm with you on this.
Think of it as a lucky escape. I don't want anything to do with people that think they don't owe people basic respect and politeness.
Well quite simply as I said before , they don't .
No one owes anyone anything .
You can keep saying that everyone should be polite , and that those with the power don't act in a civilised way to those who don't , but the bottom line is this . Your current way isn't working . End of .
So change your thinking , listen to what advice is being given , and stop trying to change the thinking of those you are criticising .
I shall continue to live my life in a respectful manner. I won't be changing. My way way works fine thank you.
I don't see how I am attempting to change the behaviour of other people. If those people are ignorant and disrespectful I highly doubt they give a shit what I think. Unless they feel guilty, in which case perhaps they will change of their own accord.
Lol ... Once again I have messed up the quote button .
Scarlet , I hardly see you you complaining that your approach in clubs isn't working , so my comments were aimed at the post you agreed with , not you .
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" Well quite simply as I said before , they don't . No one owes anyone anything . You can keep saying that everyone should be polite , and that those with the power don't act in a civilised way to those who don't , but the bottom line is this . Your current way isn't working . End of . So change your thinking , listen to what advice is being given , and stop trying to change the thinking of those you are criticising . " I've listened to the advice and I'll try to put it into practice. I'll look harder for people 'giving me the eye', whatever that looks like and I'll try to smile at all times. However, I'll leave you with one last thought on the subject of politeness. Forget right and wrong, look at it from the point of view of enlightened self-interest. How do you want single men to behave? Do you want them to be polite, respectful and take no for an answer, or do you want them to be pushy and prowl around looking for anyone that will have them? I'm trying to be the first, as are a lot of others. If couples and women want that to continue, then that behaviour needs to be encouraged. Einstein described the definition of insanity as repeating the same actions over and over again and expecting a different result. So, if I'm being polite and being ignored in return, and I see the pushy guys having more success than me, even if it means settling for someone who just wants another cock and doesn't care who it's attached to, then why would I continue being respectful and trying to talk to people? If you, as a couple, want single men to behave decently, then you, personally, have a responsibility to encourage those who do BECAUSE THERE IS NO-ONE ELSE. There's no higher authority that'll mark those guys who do the right thing as someone worth talking to (and I'm only suggesting you talk to them, not that you should spread your legs for any guys who can say please). There's just us, and if we want the scene to get better then we're the ones who have to make it happen. None of us can do it alone, we all have to do our part. Let the ones who just want an ambulatory dildo have their fun with the pack-hunter guys, and when you see a guy acting the way you wish they'd all act, show a little appreciation so he'll know that it's worth making the effor. | |||
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" Well quite simply as I said before , they don't . No one owes anyone anything . You can keep saying that everyone should be polite , and that those with the power don't act in a civilised way to those who don't , but the bottom line is this . Your current way isn't working . End of . So change your thinking , listen to what advice is being given , and stop trying to change the thinking of those you are criticising . I've listened to the advice and I'll try to put it into practice. I'll look harder for people 'giving me the eye', whatever that looks like and I'll try to smile at all times. However, I'll leave you with one last thought on the subject of politeness. Forget right and wrong, look at it from the point of view of enlightened self-interest. How do you want single men to behave? Do you want them to be polite, respectful and take no for an answer, or do you want them to be pushy and prowl around looking for anyone that will have them? I'm trying to be the first, as are a lot of others. If couples and women want that to continue, then that behaviour needs to be encouraged. Einstein described the definition of insanity as repeating the same actions over and over again and expecting a different result. So, if I'm being polite and being ignored in return, and I see the pushy guys having more success than me, even if it means settling for someone who just wants another cock and doesn't care who it's attached to, then why would I continue being respectful and trying to talk to people? If you, as a couple, want single men to behave decently, then you, personally, have a responsibility to encourage those who do BECAUSE THERE IS NO-ONE ELSE. There's no higher authority that'll mark those guys who do the right thing as someone worth talking to (and I'm only suggesting you talk to them, not that you should spread your legs for any guys who can say please). There's just us, and if we want the scene to get better then we're the ones who have to make it happen. None of us can do it alone, we all have to do our part. Let the ones who just want an ambulatory dildo have their fun with the pack-hunter guys, and when you see a guy acting the way you wish they'd all act, show a little appreciation so he'll know that it's worth making the effor." We don't have a problem with the scene . We talk and enjoy time with single guys , women , couples and TVs . Single guys who Sabrina fancies get to have a great time playing with her , and I love to see he having fun . I hope you have more success in the future , and find a way to see the signals . Don't stop being polite or lower your standards . Just be a bit more savvy and perhaps things will get better | |||
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