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"You are in a public room where people are usually expecting contact - it's different to a private room. Reach out and touch a leg or arm gently - if you get a no thanks then stop. If after a short while you get no response back then stop. If you get a touch back carry on. The worst that can happen is they say no thanks. Regular club goers are grown up and won't be upset if you touch gently but will let you know if they don't want you touching. It's worked for us for 10 years of very regular club going with no dramas." Thanks for that and we just need to not be so shy | |||
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"I wasn't 'a couple' for very long, but I know what you mean about the difficulty of making the first move. Even after chatting to another couple in the bar/pool/sauna, it's not easy for new swingers to say outright "would you like to play?" What worked for us was:- ~step one: move slightly closer to the other couple (usually achieved tactfully by changing our sexual position), ~step two (only if they don't move away, of course!): I would allow my ankle to touch the other lady's ankle. If she left her ankle touching mine, it was much easier for me to catch her eye and ask her "do you two ever play with other couples?". It also set the scene for discussions about boundaries. This always worked for us, but I'm sure other more experienced couples will give you their advice. Good luck! " My friends also use this strategy | |||
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"If we went to a club and just sat in the bar area would people think we were strange?..or journos looking for a scoop etc?" Nah you'd get chatting to people so it would be cool x | |||
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"If we went to a club and just sat in the bar area would people think we were strange?..or journos looking for a scoop etc?" At the club I go to, no-one would think you were strange if you wanted to stay in the bar area - for many, the 'social side' of swinging is just as important as the sexual side. Some couples attend many times, just to watch and chat, as there is never any pressure to play, until/unless you're ready. I recommend you research the club you're thinking of attending first ... Adam & Eve's in Manchester has a very small bar, for example - staying in there all night might be boring. La Chambre, on the other hand, has a very large bar/lounge/dancefloor area, so there are usually plenty of people to chat with. On a good night, though, the bar area can be very quiet after about midnight, as everyone is upstairs in the play areas. Incidentally, journalists at a swingers club would achieve very little without a cameraman, and anyone taking photos would be immediately ejected from the club, so no worries there. | |||
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"Thanks bright/sunny... We dont swing, but it would be nice to just sit and be involved in the atmosphere...just to take it all in etc...swingers seem really nice people. We wouldnt want to walk around leering at people...just enjoy the buzz." I love the social side, I quite often go to chams and end up gassing all night to mates old and new, not playing at all! | |||
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"We just come right out and ask lol So much easier than hoping the other couple read the signs. Do it once and after that it will be second nature. We find that people appreciate the straight forward approach too " Yeah we do think thats the approach we should be trying , we only get the chance to goto a club every few months so want to make every minute count | |||
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"If we went to a club and just sat in the bar area would people think we were strange?..or journos looking for a scoop etc? Nah you'd get chatting to people so it would be cool x" So people would still be ok to chat to us once we told them we wasnt into the big scene?...we have this image of people coming over, striking up a conversation and then ten just making their excuses and wandering off after a couple of minutes once they found out...we are nice a socialable though..not wallflowers etc. | |||
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"So people would still be ok to chat to us once we told them we wasnt into the big scene?...we have this image of people coming over, striking up a conversation and then ten just making their excuses and wandering off after a couple of minutes once they found out" Most people at clubs are happy to chat to newcomers - we were all new once, and it's nice to be able to reassure people who might be slightly nervous. You might get chatting to people who are looking for playmates, so (if you're not playing) they probably won't chat to you all night. However, you should be able to have a series of pleasant conversations. And if anyone wanders off after only a couple of minutes .... well, they just weren't on your wavelength, so you've missed nothing. x | |||
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"If you're in a playroom and another couple keep looking at you, and you return their looks, that's a good start. That's how we lost our swinging virginity - we and another couple moved closer to each other, we touched, swapped and that was it. Chatting to the couple in the bar afterwards they said "we could tell you were interested because you kept on looking". It gets easier as you get more confident and you're able to read the signals better." Have to say we have had that a lot couples looking at us just like you say , we just need to learn to read all those signals D&A | |||
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"If we went to a club and just sat in the bar area would people think we were strange?..or journos looking for a scoop etc?" I have seen a more mature couple sitting in the corner of the Round Bed room at Chameleons just watching the porn and the action on the bed - no problem at all! Whatever their reasons, be it just being voyeuristic of not wanting or able to perform with others, they weren`t hurting anyone else and no doubt got the buzz they were looking for! I suggest you try walking around the club and stop in different areas to have your perve/chatter and not stick too rigidly to the bar. | |||
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"I was at Chams in Newport last night with a regular playmate. I was giving him a tour (as it was his first time there) and as we stopped off in the empty cinema room thought we'd have a little fun there. In comes two guys and just started groping me without so much as a 'hi' or 'do you mind if we join in'. Then we went upstairs to the dungeon where a guy stood back and watched before politely asking if we minded him playing too which we didn't. Worse though, was whilst in jacuzzi again playing with my 'partner' some big black guy grabbed my boobs and squeezed so hard i felt like screaming then grabbed my hand to put on his cock. I then told him NO and moved to other side. Later on, whilst back in the jacuzzi and playing with friends the same guy had to be told a further 3 times NO before I had to move again." Nice.. ...and will you be going back? | |||
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"I was at Chams in Newport last night with a regular playmate. I was giving him a tour (as it was his first time there) and as we stopped off in the empty cinema room thought we'd have a little fun there. In comes two guys and just started groping me without so much as a 'hi' or 'do you mind if we join in'. Then we went upstairs to the dungeon where a guy stood back and watched before politely asking if we minded him playing too which we didn't. Worse though, was whilst in jacuzzi again playing with my 'partner' some big black guy grabbed my boobs and squeezed so hard i felt like screaming then grabbed my hand to put on his cock. I then told him NO and moved to other side. Later on, whilst back in the jacuzzi and playing with friends the same guy had to be told a further 3 times NO before I had to move again. Nice.. ...and will you be going back?" Oh definately! I won't let one guy spoil it for me but if I see him again and he acts the same way I WILL report him. | |||
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