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"Did the nurse not take multiple swabs from your partner's vagina and check visually for signs of infection? And they didn't take throat swabs? Nor ask her her sexual history? (Anal sex requires anal swabs for example. And if either of you have had sex with a bisexual man, they would also give you Hep B vaccination.) I don't think I'd go back to that clinic again." I was wondering that too, I'm glad that the clinic I go to is more thorough! | |||
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"I don't have a active sex life, so don't need to be checked " Does that mean I'm safe if I lay still? | |||
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"Did the nurse not take multiple swabs from your partner's vagina and check visually for signs of infection? And they didn't take throat swabs? Nor ask her her sexual history? (Anal sex requires anal swabs for example. And if either of you have had sex with a bisexual man, they would also give you Hep B vaccination.) I don't think I'd go back to that clinic again." The op did state they were asked about their sexual activity and I'm sure they would have been tested according to their activity. I'm not examined when i go. At our clinic they only examine if you have symptoms. I thought that was fairly standard practice? | |||
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"Sounds like they did a quick test. It's good to share but always insist on throat swabs too and get them to do the visual inspection.. Can I ask the op why they had to find a new clinic. As just use the one you normally use.. or was it your first test x " Can i ask why a visual inspection is necessary? | |||
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"Am the only tranny without a fanny so Ave no need to be swabbed although a don't mind going through the motions" so you don't get your throat or arse swabbed? You should also have the Hep B jab | |||
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"Sounds like they did a quick test. It's good to share but always insist on throat swabs too and get them to do the visual inspection.. Can I ask the op why they had to find a new clinic. As just use the one you normally use.. or was it your first test x Can i ask why a visual inspection is necessary?" to check for genital warts mainly. I always get checked and swabbed, they do offer me to do it myself, but I feel it's more thorough if a nurse does it. | |||
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"I don't have a active sex life, so don't need to be checked Does that mean I'm safe if I lay still? " That's right, you would be safe if you lay still there | |||
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"Sounds like they did a quick test. It's good to share but always insist on throat swabs too and get them to do the visual inspection.. Can I ask the op why they had to find a new clinic. As just use the one you normally use.. or was it your first test x Can i ask why a visual inspection is necessary? to check for genital warts mainly. I always get checked and swabbed, they do offer me to do it myself, but I feel it's more thorough if a nurse does it." I think you would notice if you had warts wouldn't you? ? | |||
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"Sounds like they did a quick test. It's good to share but always insist on throat swabs too and get them to do the visual inspection.. Can I ask the op why they had to find a new clinic. As just use the one you normally use.. or was it your first test x Can i ask why a visual inspection is necessary?" .because I like to be properly checked.. And it's much better to get them to do the swabs. And you may not always notice warts or other things that while not sexually transmitted can need treatment. | |||
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"Sounds like they did a quick test. It's good to share but always insist on throat swabs too and get them to do the visual inspection.. Can I ask the op why they had to find a new clinic. As just use the one you normally use.. or was it your first test x Can i ask why a visual inspection is necessary? .because I like to be properly checked.. And it's much better to get them to do the swabs. And you may not always notice warts or other things that while not sexually transmitted can need treatment. " Ok so it's just a preference for you then. That's cool. Others shouldn't feel like they aren't getting a proper service because they don't have this. Most people know their own bodies well enough to know when something isn't right and carry out their own visual checks so will recognise if anything changes or doesn't look right and needs checking out. | |||
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"I never get why people need to use fake names . We go every 4-6 weeks . " Because we don't want any chance of our sexual activity or screening going on our records. Quite simple. Life or heath insurance quotes "Have you ever had an HIV test" question for instance... | |||
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"I never get why people need to use fake names . We go every 4-6 weeks . Because we don't want any chance of our sexual activity or screening going on our records. Quite simple. Life or heath insurance quotes "Have you ever had an HIV test" question for instance..." If you have had a A baby in the last 12 years or so they would know you have anyway. As they routinely screen for hiv when pregnant now | |||
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"Sounds like they did a quick test. It's good to share but always insist on throat swabs too and get them to do the visual inspection.. Can I ask the op why they had to find a new clinic. As just use the one you normally use.. or was it your first test x Can i ask why a visual inspection is necessary?" They always check visually for early signs of herpes and thrush at my clinic. As well as early signs of any other genital infections/illness where they might suggest that you see your GP. If they've got you in stirrups swabbing your vagina and ass, they might as well! | |||
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"Sounds like they did a quick test. It's good to share but always insist on throat swabs too and get them to do the visual inspection.. Can I ask the op why they had to find a new clinic. As just use the one you normally use.. or was it your first test x Can i ask why a visual inspection is necessary? .because I like to be properly checked.. And it's much better to get them to do the swabs. And you may not always notice warts or other things that while not sexually transmitted can need treatment. Ok so it's just a preference for you then. That's cool. Others shouldn't feel like they aren't getting a proper service because they don't have this. Most people know their own bodies well enough to know when something isn't right and carry out their own visual checks so will recognise if anything changes or doesn't look right and needs checking out." It's much more accurate to get the nurse to swab you though. When I get mine done they take from two different places inside my vagina, as well as the skin outside it. I don't think I'd have the accuracy to manage taking them from myself. I don't really see why you wouldn't. They're nurses in a sexual health clinic, they've seen it a thousand times before. Half of them own their own vagina, it's nothing new and exciting to them. | |||
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"Did the nurse not take multiple swabs from your partner's vagina and check visually for signs of infection? And they didn't take throat swabs? Nor ask her her sexual history? (Anal sex requires anal swabs for example. And if either of you have had sex with a bisexual man, they would also give you Hep B vaccination.) I don't think I'd go back to that clinic again. The op did state they were asked about their sexual activity and I'm sure they would have been tested according to their activity. I'm not examined when i go. At our clinic they only examine if you have symptoms. I thought that was fairly standard practice? " This is the same set up as my clinic too. It costs the NHS too much for unnecessary throat swabs so I'm told and they only check you internally if you have symptoms. You do your own swabs in the loo and bring it bk out x | |||
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"Sounds like they did a quick test. It's good to share but always insist on throat swabs too and get them to do the visual inspection.. Can I ask the op why they had to find a new clinic. As just use the one you normally use.. or was it your first test x Can i ask why a visual inspection is necessary? to check for genital warts mainly. I always get checked and swabbed, they do offer me to do it myself, but I feel it's more thorough if a nurse does it. I think you would notice if you had warts wouldn't you? ?" most likely yes, but for peace of mind, I still like the nurses to check. I always get an extra swab for BV screening too and HPV (although they don't offer this service unless you ask). My clinic are great and will even do same day test results on everything (except blood, that takes a week). I can sit in the waiting room for 10 minuets whilst they go through the slides. I'm happy with how I look after my sexual health and I'm grateful that the NHS provides this free service. | |||
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"Did the nurse not take multiple swabs from your partner's vagina and check visually for signs of infection? And they didn't take throat swabs? Nor ask her her sexual history? (Anal sex requires anal swabs for example. And if either of you have had sex with a bisexual man, they would also give you Hep B vaccination.) I don't think I'd go back to that clinic again. The op did state they were asked about their sexual activity and I'm sure they would have been tested according to their activity. I'm not examined when i go. At our clinic they only examine if you have symptoms. I thought that was fairly standard practice? This is the same set up as my clinic too. It costs the NHS too much for unnecessary throat swabs so I'm told and they only check you internally if you have symptoms. You do your own swabs in the loo and bring it bk out x" well throat swabs are necessary for me, as I don't always use condoms for oral and never use dental dams when playing with the ladies. In fact I par take in more oral than penetrative sex, but for me, all swabs are necessary, as well as a thorough swabbing from the nurse, rather than myself. | |||
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"Did the nurse not take multiple swabs from your partner's vagina and check visually for signs of infection? And they didn't take throat swabs? Nor ask her her sexual history? (Anal sex requires anal swabs for example. And if either of you have had sex with a bisexual man, they would also give you Hep B vaccination.) I don't think I'd go back to that clinic again. The op did state they were asked about their sexual activity and I'm sure they would have been tested according to their activity. I'm not examined when i go. At our clinic they only examine if you have symptoms. I thought that was fairly standard practice? This is the same set up as my clinic too. It costs the NHS too much for unnecessary throat swabs so I'm told and they only check you internally if you have symptoms. You do your own swabs in the loo and bring it bk out x" Throat swabs are only unnecessary if you don't do oral sex And they will check you properly if you ask them and make an appointment rather than drop in they will do x | |||
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"Did the nurse not take multiple swabs from your partner's vagina and check visually for signs of infection? And they didn't take throat swabs? Nor ask her her sexual history? (Anal sex requires anal swabs for example. And if either of you have had sex with a bisexual man, they would also give you Hep B vaccination.) I don't think I'd go back to that clinic again. The op did state they were asked about their sexual activity and I'm sure they would have been tested according to their activity. I'm not examined when i go. At our clinic they only examine if you have symptoms. I thought that was fairly standard practice? This is the same set up as my clinic too. It costs the NHS too much for unnecessary throat swabs so I'm told and they only check you internally if you have symptoms. You do your own swabs in the loo and bring it bk out x Throat swabs are only unnecessary if you don't do oral sex And they will check you properly if you ask them and make an appointment rather than drop in they will do x " If they are necessary I really don't understand why you have to ask for them. I always give exact details of what I've been up to and they have never once offered them or said that I need them. It seems it varies widely depending on where you go. As someone else has said....very informative......I'm still not convinced about the need for the nurse to examine though. I doubt they would spot anything I wouldn't as I'm more familiar with what everything looks like and how it feels. | |||
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"Sounds like they did a quick test. It's good to share but always insist on throat swabs too and get them to do the visual inspection.. Can I ask the op why they had to find a new clinic. As just use the one you normally use.. or was it your first test x Can i ask why a visual inspection is necessary? They always check visually for early signs of herpes and thrush at my clinic. As well as early signs of any other genital infections/illness where they might suggest that you see your GP. If they've got you in stirrups swabbing your vagina and ass, they might as well!" Surely they do a visual inspection when they take the swabs or how will they know they are swabbing the right area? When I went last they had me on a bed, stirrups up, and checked as they swabbed | |||
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"Sounds like they did a quick test. It's good to share but always insist on throat swabs too and get them to do the visual inspection.. Can I ask the op why they had to find a new clinic. As just use the one you normally use.. or was it your first test x Can i ask why a visual inspection is necessary? They always check visually for early signs of herpes and thrush at my clinic. As well as early signs of any other genital infections/illness where they might suggest that you see your GP. If they've got you in stirrups swabbing your vagina and ass, they might as well! Surely they do a visual inspection when they take the swabs or how will they know they are swabbing the right area? When I went last they had me on a bed, stirrups up, and checked as they swabbed" not when you self swab | |||
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"I book a 'peace of mind' check-up every 3 months at my clinic, and it's a very good one. I first see a doctor who asks me about recent sexual activity (in a very matter of fact, non-judgemental way, and I have told him that I'm a swinger). He also asks whether I have any symptoms (which I don't). Then I do a urine sample. When I get called back in, the nurse helps me into the stirrup chair and the doctor comes in to do the swabs. Then it's into another room for a phlebotomist to take blood samples. Results usually back in 5 days and they phone me. Never any problems, apart from one bout of BV. I got a course of tablets (free) and a lecture about not using soap etc too frequently in my vaginal region. I can't recommend my clinic highly enough." That's exactly the same service at the clinic I like. They only do a urine sample if you suspect you could be pregnant though. | |||
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"Did the nurse not take multiple swabs from your partner's vagina and check visually for signs of infection? And they didn't take throat swabs? Nor ask her her sexual history? (Anal sex requires anal swabs for example. And if either of you have had sex with a bisexual man, they would also give you Hep B vaccination.) I don't think I'd go back to that clinic again. The op did state they were asked about their sexual activity and I'm sure they would have been tested according to their activity. I'm not examined when i go. At our clinic they only examine if you have symptoms. I thought that was fairly standard practice? This is the same set up as my clinic too. It costs the NHS too much for unnecessary throat swabs so I'm told and they only check you internally if you have symptoms. You do your own swabs in the loo and bring it bk out x Throat swabs are only unnecessary if you don't do oral sex And they will check you properly if you ask them and make an appointment rather than drop in they will do x If they are necessary I really don't understand why you have to ask for them. I always give exact details of what I've been up to and they have never once offered them or said that I need them. It seems it varies widely depending on where you go. As someone else has said....very informative......I'm still not convinced about the need for the nurse to examine though. I doubt they would spot anything I wouldn't as I'm more familiar with what everything looks like and how it feels. " I don't ask for them, they offer for the nurse to do them, or myself. I always opt for the nurse. Yes I'm aware of my own body and any changes, but having a nurse double check is for my own peace of mind | |||
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"That's exactly the same service at the clinic I like. They only do a urine sample if you suspect you could be pregnant though." Yes, at my age my periods are very irregular, and although I always play safe, we all know that condoms aren't 100% foolproof. The last thing I need is an unwanted pregnancy, so I tell the doctor this at the time, and he's happy to do the urine sample (saves me another £8 at Boots lolol). | |||
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"Sounds like they did a quick test. It's good to share but always insist on throat swabs too and get them to do the visual inspection.. Can I ask the op why they had to find a new clinic. As just use the one you normally use.. or was it your first test x Can i ask why a visual inspection is necessary? They always check visually for early signs of herpes and thrush at my clinic. As well as early signs of any other genital infections/illness where they might suggest that you see your GP. If they've got you in stirrups swabbing your vagina and ass, they might as well! Surely they do a visual inspection when they take the swabs or how will they know they are swabbing the right area? When I went last they had me on a bed, stirrups up, and checked as they swabbed not when you self swab" Oh right, I've never done that. To be honest I'd prefer someone to have a proper ferret around as I can't really see mine properly | |||
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"Hi all Just to add to topic I had a check recently too (all clear) which was one by a very competent nurse who asked outright if I was a swinger when I told her why I was being tested. Full blood test (hiv duo, hep b, c, syphillis) urine sample and throat swabs too. No visual examination but she asked if I had noticed anything, and since I have not that was not needed. I think we have a responsibility to do this - and also to be honest with the clinic so that they know what tests to do. They also compile a knowledge of clubs etc she explained, which helps them know what tests may be necessary if they are getting cases presenting from the same locations. She asked specifically about web sites too - knew fab and asked if it was a good site! " Yes, mine asks about club attendance too. Which I always thought was really good. They had it down on my records that I was a polyamorous fetishist who was both fluid and blood bonded with my partner. None of this was judged at all. Just completely matter of fact. Because I was getting tested in Essex but clubbing in the West Midlands, they always asked me if they could inform other NHS areas if anything showed on my record so that they could watch out for it in that area. Seemed pretty fucking awesome. | |||
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"I never get why people need to use fake names . We go every 4-6 weeks . Because we don't want any chance of our sexual activity or screening going on our records. Quite simple. Life or heath insurance quotes "Have you ever had an HIV test" question for instance... If you have had a A baby in the last 12 years or so they would know you have anyway. As they routinely screen for hiv when pregnant now " I would have thought it would lower your premiums (if they ask) to say you have had a negative HIV test rather than never been tested (so might have it and not know) I have lost count of the number of STD inc HIV tests I've had, giving blood, before being put on certain meds, for sexual health checkups since swinging etc. | |||
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"Every new partner for me" That wouldn't be possible for us as we can have a few new partners over the course Of a night at a club x | |||
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"My clinic has never used stirrups or offered throat swabs. On the form you fill out before you see the nurse they ask about specific symptoms. " I think some like to make you feel like you aren't getting a proper service on here. If you are honest at the clinic you will get offered what you need, of that I am sure. It isn't in their best interest not to offer the correct service for you. | |||
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"My clinic has never used stirrups or offered throat swabs. On the form you fill out before you see the nurse they ask about specific symptoms. I think some like to make you feel like you aren't getting a proper service on here. If you are honest at the clinic you will get offered what you need, of that I am sure. It isn't in their best interest not to offer the correct service for you." They ask a lot of questions before they test. I'm sure they wouldn't leave anything to chance. | |||
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"Why do you need an hep A snd Hep B injection.. I aint ever had either, although i dont have an active sex life and i believe my partner to be the same. But if we do enter into the world of swinging properly i can understand why one would need regular checks, but i dont understand the Hep A or B injections.. "How do you proach the subject!"?" Hep A has never been mentioned to me, but had the hep B due to actively playing with bi men. It's an infection easily spread through body fluids. | |||
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"My clinic has never used stirrups or offered throat swabs. On the form you fill out before you see the nurse they ask about specific symptoms. I think some like to make you feel like you aren't getting a proper service on here. If you are honest at the clinic you will get offered what you need, of that I am sure. It isn't in their best interest not to offer the correct service for you." I think I just expect a certain level of service. I'm a high risk group for STI's because I'm in non-closed polyamorous relationships, because I'm a fetishist who enjoys edge play, and because I'm into casual sex/swinging. Therefore when I go to the sexual health clinic I expect them to check me over fully to ensure my health is monitored. It's like my partner, who has problems with his blood. He wouldn't be happy if when he goes for his blood checkups they just asked him a set of questions to see how he felt he was getting on. He doesn't know the symptoms he's looking for - he's not a qualified doctor. Instead they visually inspect where his problems are (his leg) and then they take a sample of his blood. Absolutely no difference. I'm not a qualified medical practitioner. I have no interest in being a hobby-practitioner. I'd rather leave the assessment to the professionals, rather than doing it myself. | |||
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"My clinic has never used stirrups or offered throat swabs. On the form you fill out before you see the nurse they ask about specific symptoms. I think some like to make you feel like you aren't getting a proper service on here. If you are honest at the clinic you will get offered what you need, of that I am sure. It isn't in their best interest not to offer the correct service for you. I think I just expect a certain level of service. I'm a high risk group for STI's because I'm in non-closed polyamorous relationships, because I'm a fetishist who enjoys edge play, and because I'm into casual sex/swinging. Therefore when I go to the sexual health clinic I expect them to check me over fully to ensure my health is monitored. It's like my partner, who has problems with his blood. He wouldn't be happy if when he goes for his blood checkups they just asked him a set of questions to see how he felt he was getting on. He doesn't know the symptoms he's looking for - he's not a qualified doctor. Instead they visually inspect where his problems are (his leg) and then they take a sample of his blood. Absolutely no difference. I'm not a qualified medical practitioner. I have no interest in being a hobby-practitioner. I'd rather leave the assessment to the professionals, rather than doing it myself." So you are getting the appropriate service for you. Which is great. And as you have said you are not a medical practitioner so why question the service that others receive from the medical practitioners? | |||
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"My clinic has never used stirrups or offered throat swabs. On the form you fill out before you see the nurse they ask about specific symptoms. I think some like to make you feel like you aren't getting a proper service on here. If you are honest at the clinic you will get offered what you need, of that I am sure. It isn't in their best interest not to offer the correct service for you. I think I just expect a certain level of service. I'm a high risk group for STI's because I'm in non-closed polyamorous relationships, because I'm a fetishist who enjoys edge play, and because I'm into casual sex/swinging. Therefore when I go to the sexual health clinic I expect them to check me over fully to ensure my health is monitored. It's like my partner, who has problems with his blood. He wouldn't be happy if when he goes for his blood checkups they just asked him a set of questions to see how he felt he was getting on. He doesn't know the symptoms he's looking for - he's not a qualified doctor. Instead they visually inspect where his problems are (his leg) and then they take a sample of his blood. Absolutely no difference. I'm not a qualified medical practitioner. I have no interest in being a hobby-practitioner. I'd rather leave the assessment to the professionals, rather than doing it myself. So you are getting the appropriate service for you. Which is great. And as you have said you are not a medical practitioner so why question the service that others receive from the medical practitioners? " | |||
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"My clinic has never used stirrups or offered throat swabs. On the form you fill out before you see the nurse they ask about specific symptoms. I think some like to make you feel like you aren't getting a proper service on here. If you are honest at the clinic you will get offered what you need, of that I am sure. It isn't in their best interest not to offer the correct service for you. I think I just expect a certain level of service. I'm a high risk group for STI's because I'm in non-closed polyamorous relationships, because I'm a fetishist who enjoys edge play, and because I'm into casual sex/swinging. Therefore when I go to the sexual health clinic I expect them to check me over fully to ensure my health is monitored. It's like my partner, who has problems with his blood. He wouldn't be happy if when he goes for his blood checkups they just asked him a set of questions to see how he felt he was getting on. He doesn't know the symptoms he's looking for - he's not a qualified doctor. Instead they visually inspect where his problems are (his leg) and then they take a sample of his blood. Absolutely no difference. I'm not a qualified medical practitioner. I have no interest in being a hobby-practitioner. I'd rather leave the assessment to the professionals, rather than doing it myself. So you are getting the appropriate service for you. Which is great. And as you have said you are not a medical practitioner so why question the service that others receive from the medical practitioners? " Because it just concerns me (conceptually) that the NHS are asking people to judge their own health rather than letting qualified practitioners make the decisions. People who are new to sexual health services might think that it's normal to have to try and self diagnose, and that is something I find worrying. | |||
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"Because it just concerns me (conceptually) that the NHS are asking people to judge their own health rather than letting qualified practitioners make the decisions. People who are new to sexual health services might think that it's normal to have to try and self diagnose, and that is something I find worrying." In addition, if someone tells me that they were checked out recently at a sexual health clinic, I want that to mean a certain benchmark of thing. I want to know that everyone getting checked at a sexual health clinic is being checked as standard for the same things. Standardisation means that we all know what we've been checked for without having to probe further. Which is good. I don't want to sleep with people who are just showing their face so that they can tell people they've been checked. | |||
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"Because it just concerns me (conceptually) that the NHS are asking people to judge their own health rather than letting qualified practitioners make the decisions. People who are new to sexual health services might think that it's normal to have to try and self diagnose, and that is something I find worrying. In addition, if someone tells me that they were checked out recently at a sexual health clinic, I want that to mean a certain benchmark of thing. I want to know that everyone getting checked at a sexual health clinic is being checked as standard for the same things. Standardisation means that we all know what we've been checked for without having to probe further. Which is good. I don't want to sleep with people who are just showing their face so that they can tell people they've been checked." Perhaps you could compile a list of those clinics that offer an acceptable level of service then to make it clear for us all. | |||
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"Because it just concerns me (conceptually) that the NHS are asking people to judge their own health rather than letting qualified practitioners make the decisions. People who are new to sexual health services might think that it's normal to have to try and self diagnose, and that is something I find worrying. In addition, if someone tells me that they were checked out recently at a sexual health clinic, I want that to mean a certain benchmark of thing. I want to know that everyone getting checked at a sexual health clinic is being checked as standard for the same things. Standardisation means that we all know what we've been checked for without having to probe further. Which is good. I don't want to sleep with people who are just showing their face so that they can tell people they've been checked. Perhaps you could compile a list of those clinics that offer an acceptable level of service then to make it clear for us all. " | |||
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"Because it just concerns me (conceptually) that the NHS are asking people to judge their own health rather than letting qualified practitioners make the decisions. People who are new to sexual health services might think that it's normal to have to try and self diagnose, and that is something I find worrying. In addition, if someone tells me that they were checked out recently at a sexual health clinic, I want that to mean a certain benchmark of thing. I want to know that everyone getting checked at a sexual health clinic is being checked as standard for the same things. Standardisation means that we all know what we've been checked for without having to probe further. Which is good. I don't want to sleep with people who are just showing their face so that they can tell people they've been checked. Perhaps you could compile a list of those clinics that offer an acceptable level of service then to make it clear for us all. " I think you're missing the point. I am saying that I wish that there was a standard level of service across the NHS so that you knew exactly what you're comparing with other people. I initially naively assumed that everyone was getting the same high standard of care that I was (and I consider myself very lucky that my clinic was excellent). But then I realised that not everyone was getting the same amount of care so it requires more questioning to figure out what kind of tests people have, which many people find quite invasive and unpleasant. | |||
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"Because it just concerns me (conceptually) that the NHS are asking people to judge their own health rather than letting qualified practitioners make the decisions. People who are new to sexual health services might think that it's normal to have to try and self diagnose, and that is something I find worrying. In addition, if someone tells me that they were checked out recently at a sexual health clinic, I want that to mean a certain benchmark of thing. I want to know that everyone getting checked at a sexual health clinic is being checked as standard for the same things. Standardisation means that we all know what we've been checked for without having to probe further. Which is good. I don't want to sleep with people who are just showing their face so that they can tell people they've been checked. Perhaps you could compile a list of those clinics that offer an acceptable level of service then to make it clear for us all. I think you're missing the point. I am saying that I wish that there was a standard level of service across the NHS so that you knew exactly what you're comparing with other people. I initially naively assumed that everyone was getting the same high standard of care that I was (and I consider myself very lucky that my clinic was excellent). But then I realised that not everyone was getting the same amount of care so it requires more questioning to figure out what kind of tests people have, which many people find quite invasive and unpleasant." No I'm not missing the point at all. The point of the thread was for the op to share their experience and encourage more people who were perhaps nervous about going, to go. You seem to have turned it into a critique of the nhs gum service. Surely the important point is that anyone going and asking for a full check will get the same basic tests. If they have symptoms they will get an examination as well. Surely that there is your basic level of service and for most people is perfectly adequate. There is your benchmark. | |||
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"I've never been offered a throat swab, and I get asked A LOT of questions everytime. Especially last time as I had a nurse in training who was being observed by a senior staff member. I go to the GUM clinic at my city's hospital. They generally offer you asymptomatic tests for when you have no known symptoms. I usually have a blood test (for hep strains, HIV and syphillis) and a vaginal swab (for Chlamydia and Gonorrhea). Only once have I been in stirrups and had visual exam, and that was because I told them there had been issues with a condom breaking. " I use the same clinic and request throat swabs and inspection EVERY time I go. They will do it if you ask them. and if your having oral without a condom you NEED to be having oral swabs. | |||
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"I never get why people need to use fake names . We go every 4-6 weeks . Because we don't want any chance of our sexual activity or screening going on our records. Quite simple. Life or heath insurance quotes "Have you ever had an HIV test" question for instance..." That's a strange one, as I had my three children in America and they routinely screen pregnant women for HIV. I always have as thorough checks as possible when I go to the clinic, always use my real name and go locally. I certainly don't broadcast anything about my lifestyle in the vanilla world but best to get as thorough a check as possible. | |||
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"To be fair even as a swinger I have to demand the throat swabs now x " I went last week to a new (to me, I have moved house) clinic. They asked loads of questions but did not even mention throat swabs. I dont recall ever being offered one tbh. I will ask next time. They asked if I had oral sex... | |||
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"Because it just concerns me (conceptually) that the NHS are asking people to judge their own health rather than letting qualified practitioners make the decisions. People who are new to sexual health services might think that it's normal to have to try and self diagnose, and that is something I find worrying. In addition, if someone tells me that they were checked out recently at a sexual health clinic, I want that to mean a certain benchmark of thing. I want to know that everyone getting checked at a sexual health clinic is being checked as standard for the same things. Standardisation means that we all know what we've been checked for without having to probe further. Which is good. I don't want to sleep with people who are just showing their face so that they can tell people they've been checked." ABSOLUTELY ! That is THE point to make. Well said. Jane x | |||
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"Why do you need an hep A snd Hep B injection.. I aint ever had either, although i dont have an active sex life and i believe my partner to be the same. But if we do enter into the world of swinging properly i can understand why one would need regular checks, but i dont understand the Hep A or B injections.. "How do you proach the subject!"?" Hep B can be transmitted via any bodily fluid, including sweat and tears. So if a drip of sweat got into your eye. It's routinely offered to anyone who works with the homeless or with drug users due to the risk of coming into contact with any bodily fluid (saliva included). Multiple sexual partners can put you at higher risk too. Simply ask about the hepatitis jab and say that you have had a variety of partners and someone suggested it was worth considering. Since hepatitis can't be cured and the jab is easy and pretty painless it seems to be a no brainer. | |||
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"I have never had symptoms, but as I do lots of oral without protection, I have throat swabs. Why wouldn't you ask if not offered one??? Do people not think you can catch anything orally? Are people that naive? Same with the people who claim they don't need testing because they use condoms. It's ridiculous. " I guess I am just trusting of the Health Professionals who, despite knowing my history, did not offer me a throat swab or a visual check. They did not watch to see if I took the vag swab properly either. I could have stuck it in my ear! I agree with the previous poster who called for standardisation. | |||
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"It is a bit wworrying the lack of standardisation across the board. " Don't say that - you'll get accused of belittling people, or derailing the thread or something. | |||
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"I have never had symptoms, but as I do lots of oral without protection, I have throat swabs. Why wouldn't you ask if not offered one??? Do people not think you can catch anything orally? Are people that naive? Same with the people who claim they don't need testing because they use condoms. It's ridiculous. " I guess they are trusting the paid sexual health professional in front of them. | |||
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"I have never had symptoms, but as I do lots of oral without protection, I have throat swabs. Why wouldn't you ask if not offered one??? Do people not think you can catch anything orally? Are people that naive? Same with the people who claim they don't need testing because they use condoms. It's ridiculous. I guess I am just trusting of the Health Professionals who, despite knowing my history, did not offer me a throat swab or a visual check. They did not watch to see if I took the vag swab properly either. I could have stuck it in my ear! I agree with the previous poster who called for standardisation. " crack on if you think it's best way to be checked, just glad my clinic is very thorough and will continue to advice friends to get checked the way I do. | |||
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"I have never had symptoms, but as I do lots of oral without protection, I have throat swabs. Why wouldn't you ask if not offered one??? Do people not think you can catch anything orally? Are people that naive? Same with the people who claim they don't need testing because they use condoms. It's ridiculous. " well im glad you are supportive of thorough testing, however, calling people who might be new to the scene 'naive' for not asking for things they didn't know where available at their clinic, is a little harsh. after recent screening ( all clear) i realize from this thread, that i wasn't offered throat swabs.. and i shall ask, if they are offered next time.. as for the questions on sexual history, mine got a little complicated, when they wanted me to name my last partner and then the one before that..etc, i was forced into saying, i was a swinger, because the guy couldn't get to what he was asking for, namely how 'risky' was my sexual practice... he then asked me, how many partners i had had since my last check, to offer me the best advice.. it was first time, i had been to that clinic..but just to let new people know, that this info is asked for and, better to just ask them, what it is they actually want to know for , so you can give them the best possible answer, to assess you with.. x | |||
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"We only do soft swap. Everything bar full penetration. Never thought about getting any tests though?" STDs can be passed from toys , fingers and oral You are just at much at risk as people who have unprotected sex believe it or not | |||
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"I have never had symptoms, but as I do lots of oral without protection, I have throat swabs. Why wouldn't you ask if not offered one??? Do people not think you can catch anything orally? Are people that naive? Same with the people who claim they don't need testing because they use condoms. It's ridiculous. well im glad you are supportive of thorough testing, however, calling people who might be new to the scene 'naive' for not asking for things they didn't know where available at their clinic, is a little harsh. after recent screening ( all clear) i realize from this thread, that i wasn't offered throat swabs.. and i shall ask, if they are offered next time.. as for the questions on sexual history, mine got a little complicated, when they wanted me to name my last partner and then the one before that..etc, i was forced into saying, i was a swinger, because the guy couldn't get to what he was asking for, namely how 'risky' was my sexual practice... he then asked me, how many partners i had had since my last check, to offer me the best advice.. it was first time, i had been to that clinic..but just to let new people know, that this info is asked for and, better to just ask them, what it is they actually want to know for , so you can give them the best possible answer, to assess you with.. x" I said are people naive in thinking you can't catch anything orally, not for not asking for throat swabs. Besides, if people are willing to join the scene, surely one of the first thing you do is discuss sexual health and safer sex???? I know I did, but perhaps that's just my generation. Soooo many people, mainly older couples 50+ have never thought about getting tested, wrongly assuming that condoms are all that's needed and that they are 100% safe. SMH | |||
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"I have never had symptoms, but as I do lots of oral without protection, I have throat swabs. Why wouldn't you ask if not offered one??? Do people not think you can catch anything orally? Are people that naive? Same with the people who claim they don't need testing because they use condoms. It's ridiculous. well im glad you are supportive of thorough testing, however, calling people who might be new to the scene 'naive' for not asking for things they didn't know where available at their clinic, is a little harsh. after recent screening ( all clear) i realize from this thread, that i wasn't offered throat swabs.. and i shall ask, if they are offered next time.. as for the questions on sexual history, mine got a little complicated, when they wanted me to name my last partner and then the one before that..etc, i was forced into saying, i was a swinger, because the guy couldn't get to what he was asking for, namely how 'risky' was my sexual practice... he then asked me, how many partners i had had since my last check, to offer me the best advice.. it was first time, i had been to that clinic..but just to let new people know, that this info is asked for and, better to just ask them, what it is they actually want to know for , so you can give them the best possible answer, to assess you with.. x I said are people naive in thinking you can't catch anything orally, not for not asking for throat swabs. Besides, if people are willing to join the scene, surely one of the first thing you do is discuss sexual health and safer sex???? I know I did, but perhaps that's just my generation. Soooo many people, mainly older couples 50+ have never thought about getting tested, wrongly assuming that condoms are all that's needed and that they are 100% safe. SMH " So rather than patronising these people i thought the purpose of the thread was to help reassure and educate those that perhaps aren't as savvy as you are. | |||
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"Did the nurse not take multiple swabs from your partner's vagina and check visually for signs of infection? And they didn't take throat swabs? Nor ask her her sexual history? (Anal sex requires anal swabs for example. And if either of you have had sex with a bisexual man, they would also give you Hep B vaccination.) I don't think I'd go back to that clinic again." Totally agree, seems they missed out quite a lot that we would normally expect. An offer of a Hep B vaccination especially important if it was your first screening | |||
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"Personally I go after every meet. I just think its safer and more respectful to the next partner(s) to know that you're all clear" But you go bareback .... You know they can't test for everything right ..... | |||
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"Personally I go after every meet. I just think its safer and more respectful to the next partner(s) to know that you're all clear But you go bareback .... You know they can't test for everything right ..... " And some things take 3 months to show | |||
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"I was just assuming every GP surgery has a sexual health service but maybe they don't. " Local hospital. But don't walk into A&E and say "I have dick-zits". Ask for the GUM clinic | |||
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"I was just assuming every GP surgery has a sexual health service but maybe they don't. Local hospital. But don't walk into A&E and say "I have dick-zits". Ask for the GUM clinic" But my surgery has a clinic, that was my point. | |||
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"Personally I go after every meet. I just think its safer and more respectful to the next partner(s) to know that you're all clear" after every one?..you mean you wait 3 weeks between each meet..2 weeks before testing so things show up and then one week for the results..cmon... | |||
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"Clinic i get tested at basically do the full works" Can I ask where you go please, as you are near me? | |||
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"I never get why people need to use fake names . We go every 4-6 weeks . Because we don't want any chance of our sexual activity or screening going on our records. Quite simple. Life or heath insurance quotes "Have you ever had an HIV test" question for instance..." In the past, the early days, insurers would assess a person to be at high risk if they had undertaken a HIV test, even if it was negative. However, in the UK in 2005, the Association of British Insurers set up a working group on HIV and published a code of conduct in 2008 and things have been changing since then. The questions you can now expect are: “Within the last five years have you been exposed to the risk of HIV infection?” and “Have you ever tested positive for HIV, Hepatitis B or C, or are you awaiting the results of such a test? If the result is negative, the fact of having an HIV test will not, of itself, have any effect on your acceptance terms for insurance.” They may ask you to take a test based on your answers, but simply taking a test is no longer detrimental. | |||
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"Just moving this thread back to the OP'S original reason for posting. ...to anyone who is worried about going to a GUM clinic. Be honest with them about your sexual activity, they aren't asking you to judge you, they've heard it all before. The staff have always been lovely with me, and gentle when carrying out swabs etc. It's all fairly discreet, let's face it, we are all sat in the waiting room for sexual health reasons. So anyone thinking of going, but feel too worried to book an appointment. ...just do it!" This. Just back from ours. Always be open and honest. Our local one is brilliant, very professional, don’t judge and very to the point. Urine and swabs checked while we are waiting so quick results only have to wait a week for the blood results and always given a goody bag when leaving. | |||
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"After our recent visit to the Sexual Health Clinic (all clear!), we thought we'd share our experience to reassure others that it's nothing to be nervous about. After some on-line research to find contact details and locations, we booked appointments out of county to avoid bumping into anyone we might know. When we phoned to book the appointments, we just said "We'd like to book for a full sexual health screening." There were no further difficult questions at that point. On arrival, we spoke with the receptionist who was very discrete. We just booked in and sat in the waiting room thumbing through old magazines, just like a doctor's surgery with one or two other people waiting. On my appointment (male), the female nurse came out and called my first name and we went into the treatment room. She asked sexual-activity questions in a very factual and non-judgmental manner, during which I explained that my wife and I had started swinging. She recommended a Hep-B test as well. I popped into the loo to fill the urine sample bottle she provided then returned where she took a blood sample from my arm. That was it!!! 3-weeks later I got my results back when I visited with my wife for her screening. Hers was a little different to mine as the receptionist on that occasion was a nursing assistant, so she didn't need to see a nurse and wasn't asked any questions. My wife went into the loo to do her own swab sample, sealing it in the tube and bringing it back out to the receptionist-nurse who then took her into a private room where she had her blood sample taken from her arm too, and we were out within about 5 minutes. We were both nervous before we went, but having gone, we're glad we did and would encourage everyone to get checked regularly." Where did you go? I can thoroughly recommend the one in Rugby. It's close to too. | |||
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"Did the nurse not take multiple swabs from your partner's vagina and check visually for signs of infection? And they didn't take throat swabs? Nor ask her her sexual history? (Anal sex requires anal swabs for example. And if either of you have had sex with a bisexual man, they would also give you Hep B vaccination.) I don't think I'd go back to that clinic again." | |||
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