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By *orwenglish OP   Couple
over a year ago

Webster

Being a black swinger, I have been subjected to one very strange type of treatment that I just don't understand.

People who say, very specifically, might I add, that they don't want anything to do with black men. Or, as many people put it "AA" which means African Americans.

I just don't get it. Is it the thug image? Because every race has their own group of classless, violent people. It can't be just that.

And it can't be the skin color, because, here in America, we have Hispanic and Latino people. Which span every skin color from pale white to deep black, and I see no one complaining about them. It's not education or professionalism, because I know too many doctorate holding, highly professional black people personally and we're all over TV and movies too. Hell, I'm nothing special, but even I have a 134 IQ. It's nothing superhuman, but I'm not an idiot.

So, what is it? What is so bad about black people, especially black American men that turns people off? I doubt I've ever seen a profile that specifically states "NO WHITE MEN". But I have seen "NO BLACK MEN" or "please no African Americans" on people's profiles all over the place. Including here on fab.

I don't like to pull the race card...but

I mean....

Isn't that crap kinda racist? Maybe y'all could help me out.

I mean, I get plenty of play. Don't get me wrong. I've stacked the deck in my favor by working out, studying, and getting money. So, I'm good. I really am.

Just curious. A tiny bit disappointed, but mostly curious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't speak for the scene stateside, but there are a lot of profiles in the UK that state 'black only' and 'not interested in white guys'. Usually from white women or white couples, looking to experience 'black cock'. Everyone has their preferences, I guess. Maybe its just different in the states?

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By *orwenglish OP   Couple
over a year ago

Webster

Yeah. It does seem to be more USA centralized. Just another way that the good ol' states is behind the times?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP. As you well know, there are many here looking for black (or whatever is politically acceptable at the moment) cock. May I be controversial and suggest that it is you raising the race card here?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seen lots of profiles that state no white men, we just concentrate on the profiles that match and don't worry about those that don't, it's down to personal preference gilly doesn't find black men sexually attractive but she has played with an Asian man we have played with Asian women and I find black women attractive so it's a lot down to personal preference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Move to London, OP. You will have no time to complain.

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

You can't be looking that hard, there are many many profiles on here that state "no white men, black only"

Just relax and enjoy, people are entitled to their own tastes, it's not a racist thing.

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

No real difference than the profiles that say no white males.

Whenever I read that I just think, they aint for me/i aint for them, move on and leave it there.

Easy as

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP. As you well know, there are many here looking for black (or whatever is politically acceptable at the moment) cock. May I be controversial and suggest that it is you raising the race card here?"

Was thinking that myself

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By *andkCouple
over a year ago

Wisbech

I guess its personal taste, my gf doesn't fancy black man, neither does she like ginger guys, bushy beards, fat guys or small cocks. Nothing to do with being racist or thinking every black guys is a gangster. As people have pointed out there's loads more profiles saying black men only or BBC than those saying no blacks. As far as iam aware its not yet become compulsory.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i have 3 carefully chose and thought out words for you.....

speak for yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey, I think it's just a preference based on race, not a racist issue, there probably isn't many profiles who state no white men, but there are plenty who say black men only, don't read into it too much, I'm sure you are a great guy..

And try being bald!! It's like we are a race of our own on fab!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i have 3 carefully chose and thought out words for you.....

speak for yourself

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Move to the UK! That's all!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do we in the UK have a corresponding term to AA? I think as far as I know we say black apart from the tick boxes on forms where they like you to be specific. Anyone born here is called British. I've never heard anyone say Black British or African British. I'm just wondering out loud.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Move to the UK! That's all! "

What's a bwoy?

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By *orwenglish OP   Couple
over a year ago

Webster

Personally, I think it's just as bad, no matter what race you put under "please, no ___" but it seems kind of oddly specific to point out race like that at all.

I'd think it would be something to take on a case by case basis. We don't really enjoy the thought of passing with heavier gentlemen, (try getting away from that in the U.S.) but even then, if someone came along that we liked, we wouldn't mind.

Meh. I just had to rant for a minute. The fact is, I've had that happen a few times recently and it was just bugging me that it was always that same thing.

On a positive note: one girl that said she wouldn't sleep with black men, said it was because the only black guy she had slept with had a dick that was just way too big

Not that I buy into that stereotype. But it made me laugh.

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By *orwenglish OP   Couple
over a year ago

Webster


"Do we in the UK have a corresponding term to AA? I think as far as I know we say black apart from the tick boxes on forms where they like you to be specific. Anyone born here is called British. I've never heard anyone say Black British or African British. I'm just wondering out loud. "

I've wondered that too. I think that, maybe, British people don't try so hard to be PC that they keep inventing new names for people.

I could be wrong.

We're starting to say "black" more here too. I've never been to Africa, nor do I know any of my African heritage. I'm about as African as my Norwegian wife. Lol. I'm just black.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, I think it's just as bad, no matter what race you put under "please, no ___" but it seems kind of oddly specific to point out race like that at all.

I'd think it would be something to take on a case by case basis. We don't really enjoy the thought of passing with heavier gentlemen, (try getting away from that in the U.S.) but even then, if someone came along that we liked, we wouldn't mind.

Meh. I just had to rant for a minute. The fact is, I've had that happen a few times recently and it was just bugging me that it was always that same thing.

On a positive note: one girl that said she wouldn't sleep with black men, said it was because the only black guy she had slept with had a dick that was just way too big

Not that I buy into that stereotype. But it made me laugh."

I wouldn't invest any money into it if I were you

Have you ever seen a race of people you aren't attracted to? Inuits maybe? If you were constantly messaged by Inuit people you may decide to give them a heads up and say sorry but we are not attracted to Eskimos. Some people don't find people of a different race attractive and say so. It may save those people the bother of messaging

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do we in the UK have a corresponding term to AA? I think as far as I know we say black apart from the tick boxes on forms where they like you to be specific. Anyone born here is called British. I've never heard anyone say Black British or African British. I'm just wondering out loud.

I've wondered that too. I think that, maybe, British people don't try so hard to be PC that they keep inventing new names for people.

I could be wrong.

We're starting to say "black" more here too. I've never been to Africa, nor do I know any of my African heritage. I'm about as African as my Norwegian wife. Lol. I'm just black. "

Who invents the terms we use? I've been messaged by "chocolate" men and BBCs on here. Some usernames have certain words in that black people use to identify themselves.

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By *orwenglish OP   Couple
over a year ago

Webster


"Do we in the UK have a corresponding term to AA? I think as far as I know we say black apart from the tick boxes on forms where they like you to be specific. Anyone born here is called British. I've never heard anyone say Black British or African British. I'm just wondering out loud.

I've wondered that too. I think that, maybe, British people don't try so hard to be PC that they keep inventing new names for people.

I could be wrong.

We're starting to say "black" more here too. I've never been to Africa, nor do I know any of my African heritage. I'm about as African as my Norwegian wife. Lol. I'm just black.

Who invents the terms we use? I've been messaged by "chocolate" men and BBCs on here. Some usernames have certain words in that black people use to identify themselves. "

I don't mean that you do invent new words. I meant that you don't. In America, we're always hopping from one foot to the next inventing new, more PC sounding names for people. The new name usually ends up being more insulting than the old one. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being a black swinger, I have been subjected to one very strange type of treatment that I just don't understand.

People who say, very specifically, might I add, that they don't want anything to do with black men. Or, as many people put it "AA" which means African Americans.

I just don't get it. Is it the thug image? Because every race has their own group of classless, violent people. It can't be just that.

And it can't be the skin color, because, here in America, we have Hispanic and Latino people. Which span every skin color from pale white to deep black, and I see no one complaining about them. It's not education or professionalism, because I know too many doctorate holding, highly professional black people personally and we're all over TV and movies too. Hell, I'm nothing special, but even I have a 134 IQ. It's nothing superhuman, but I'm not an idiot.

So, what is it? What is so bad about black people, especially black American men that turns people off? I doubt I've ever seen a profile that specifically states "NO WHITE MEN". But I have seen "NO BLACK MEN" or "please no African Americans" on people's profiles all over the place. Including here on fab.

I don't like to pull the race card...but

I mean....

Isn't that crap kinda racist? Maybe y'all could help me out.

I mean, I get plenty of play. Don't get me wrong. I've stacked the deck in my favor by working out, studying, and getting money. So, I'm good. I really am.

Just curious. A tiny bit disappointed, but mostly curious."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think that the op is being a little disingenuous here. He claims to come from the US, historically one of the most racist countries in the world. You only have to turn on the TV at the moment, and this is in the UK, to hear what seems like yet another story about the police killing an unarmed black man. The awful incident we saw in charlstown where black church goers were murdered in cold blood, while they worshiped, in Church. The list goes on and on.

So to come on here and effectivley start a thread with the premise of, "Somebody, somewhere said something racist on the internet. I'm so offended." I really don't follow.

He could be suggesting that because of swingers open minded attitudes towards certain subjects, He believed them to be so liberally intelligent and without prejudice, to the man and without exception, that the chance of someone being both a swinger and a racist was next to impossible. Imagine his suprise when the very next day when he when onto FS and found one almost straight away. Sniff, sniff, Nah.

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Perhaps the attitudes and ideas in swinging are different in Texas to most of the UK.

I have never been and have no idea either way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do we in the UK have a corresponding term to AA? I think as far as I know we say black apart from the tick boxes on forms where they like you to be specific. Anyone born here is called British. I've never heard anyone say Black British or African British. I'm just wondering out loud.

I've wondered that too. I think that, maybe, British people don't try so hard to be PC that they keep inventing new names for people.

I could be wrong.

We're starting to say "black" more here too. I've never been to Africa, nor do I know any of my African heritage. I'm about as African as my Norwegian wife. Lol. I'm just black.

Who invents the terms we use? I've been messaged by "chocolate" men and BBCs on here. Some usernames have certain words in that black people use to identify themselves.

I don't mean that you do invent new words. I meant that you don't. In America, we're always hopping from one foot to the next inventing new, more PC sounding names for people. The new name usually ends up being more insulting than the old one. Lol"

Is this where Don King pops up and says "Only in America!"?

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

I lived in the USA for ten years and was married to a black guy from Mississippi but we lived in Los Angeles. I like the term African American as it defines people only to the extent that they are not Mexican American or something else American, but I do agree its a tricky one as my mixed race children, from him, are of mixed heritage but far away from African roots and not a category here. The one thing I could say about America is that it is a massive country and the black experience over there is vastly different in different states - we could not ever visit his family in the deep south for fear of my life. We felt relatively safe in LA, but not too far outside California ...

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

I have a white South African friend, i always wonder what she would be called if she became an American. Would she be an African American?

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By *orwenglish OP   Couple
over a year ago

Webster


"I have a white South African friend, i always wonder what she would be called if she became an American. Would she be an African American?"

She'd be more African-American than I am. That's for sure!

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I have a white South African friend, i always wonder what she would be called if she became an American. Would she be an African American?

She'd be more African-American than I am. That's for sure!"

And what about actual people born in Africa that are just working there or visiting, that are not American citizens? Are they African Africans?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We do not play with white people, and have had "NO WHITE PEOPLE" on our profile before but only got abuse, wouldn't say it's racist just A gas her preferences

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We do not play with white people, and have had "NO WHITE PEOPLE" on our profile before but only got abuse, wouldn't say it's racist just A gas her preferences"

Welcome to fab, the place where your supposedly liberating preferences are abused by someone or another!! It's not racist at all..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One thing I found odd, even strange is the fact that,

if I spoke to a elder person, and asked them is

a spade a black racial slur? I get the answer yes, yet

these days people have black spades tattooed on women

to signify their so called love for black men, yet

not one of them date, nor get into relationships

with black people... hmmm...

my black activist speaking here, but the history is deep

enough...

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By *eneral HysteriaMan
over a year ago

Newcastle


"You can't be looking that hard, there are many many profiles on here that state "no white men, black only"

Just relax and enjoy, people are entitled to their own tastes, it's not a racist thing."

this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a mixed race scottish-central american..people keep stating they wont meet mixed race scottish central americans on their profiles...I'm losing hope on fab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People have preferences, some people like to meet white guys , some like to meet white guys, some like to meet athletic guys etc etc so just wait and look for your catch hehe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I guess its personal taste, my gf doesn't fancy black man, neither does she like ginger guys, bushy beards, fat guys or small cocks. Nothing to do with being racist or thinking every black guys is a gangster. As people have pointed out there's loads more profiles saying black men only or BBC than those saying no blacks. As far as iam aware its not yet become compulsory."

There are a lot of profiles with whites only. On one day l read 6 random profiles in a row of women which said white men only. I can only say from my experience that it appears to me that there are more that say whites only. It is just not as noticeable for some people as a profile with BBC.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow


"Being a black swinger, I have been subjected to one very strange type of treatment that I just don't understand.

People who say, very specifically, might I add, that they don't want anything to do with black men. Or, as many people put it "AA" which means African Americans.

I just don't get it. Is it the thug image? Because every race has their own group of classless, violent people. It can't be just that.

And it can't be the skin color, because, here in America, we have Hispanic and Latino people. Which span every skin color from pale white to deep black, and I see no one complaining about them. It's not education or professionalism, because I know too many doctorate holding, highly professional black people personally and we're all over TV and movies too. Hell, I'm nothing special, but even I have a 134 IQ. It's nothing superhuman, but I'm not an idiot.

So, what is it? What is so bad about black people, especially black American men that turns people off? I doubt I've ever seen a profile that specifically states "NO WHITE MEN". But I have seen "NO BLACK MEN" or "please no African Americans" on people's profiles all over the place. Including here on fab.

I don't like to pull the race card...but

I mean....

Isn't that crap kinda racist? Maybe y'all could help me out.

I mean, I get plenty of play. Don't get me wrong. I've stacked the deck in my favor by working out, studying, and getting money. So, I'm good. I really am.

Just curious. A tiny bit disappointed, but mostly curious."

Lol why does that,"don't like to pull the race card"quote, always come,just before someone pulls the race card.

Your most likely shagging more than most white guys on here,and yet you think you deserve more.

Get me some of that same kind of racism brother.

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By *rown ThunderMan
over a year ago

newport


"Being a black swinger, I have been subjected to one very strange type of treatment that I just don't understand.

People who say, very specifically, might I add, that they don't want anything to do with black men. Or, as many people put it "AA" which means African Americans.

I just don't get it. Is it the thug image? Because every race has their own group of classless, violent people. It can't be just that.

And it can't be the skin color, because, here in America, we have Hispanic and Latino people. Which span every skin color from pale white to deep black, and I see no one complaining about them. It's not education or professionalism, because I know too many doctorate holding, highly professional black people personally and we're all over TV and movies too. Hell, I'm nothing special, but even I have a 134 IQ. It's nothing superhuman, but I'm not an idiot.

So, what is it? What is so bad about black people, especially black American men that turns people off? I doubt I've ever seen a profile that specifically states "NO WHITE MEN". But I have seen "NO BLACK MEN" or "please no African Americans" on people's profiles all over the place. Including here on fab.

I don't like to pull the race card...but

I mean....

Isn't that crap kinda racist? Maybe y'all could help me out.

I mean, I get plenty of play. Don't get me wrong. I've stacked the deck in my favor by working out, studying, and getting money. So, I'm good. I really am.

Just curious. A tiny bit disappointed, but mostly curious."

Who gives a shit?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

I dont have a problem with it, but it always makes me curious when I look at the Who's Looked at Me section and see profiles stating BBC Only (not even looking for couples) and wonder why they thought they would find that on a profile of a white man and an asian woman.

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

The original op post stated ---

'I doubt I've ever seen a profile that specifically states "NO WHITE MEN". But I have seen "NO BLACK MEN"

--- seems a convenient misnomer as plenty of profiles say no white men.

Since then it's gone to analyzing, questioning simple figures of speech, freedom of choice, freedom of selection, freedom of preference because someone has the freedom to be not interested in what they're not interested in on any front.

Hopefully no on is suggesting those latter freedoms are racist. IF they are then it's an oh dear, what freedom, from me.

I've seen many profiles saying NO this or NO that. If any of the no's apply to you then leave it there move on simple as. Why hold an inquisition.trying to make something out to be something it aint

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have to be realistic here

Race laws do not apply to relationships

Imagine the trouble if it was racist to refuse to date some one of a different race

Imagine the mingers or how about the scores of men or women waiting at street corner

They could

Say give me a blowjob now . You reply no and they say your racist , next thing Down the police cells for a few hours

It's not practical and it's not racist to say that you fancy a certain type

Of person

It's not racist to say no black man China man or even Welsh

Anyone who says different is quite simply trying to encourage racial hatred and outrage which is a crime under UK law

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Let me see, OP. You're straight, you say? Isn't that sexist or discrimination against gay or bi-men that might want to meet you?

What's that? You aren't attracted to men? How can you know? Surely it should be on a case by case basis?

We're all wired however we're wired and we're attracted to whomever we're attracted to. Nobody likes to be excluded but it's not discrimination to have sexual preferences. That's why you're allowed to define yourself as straight without being accused of discrimination.

I'm not often attracted to black guys, at least based on their looks and a profile on here. If I got to know them, maybe there would be an attraction. But this isn't a place for getting to know people in great depth prior to meeting.

Because I am occasionally attracted to black men, I do take it on a case by case basis. I have never yet been attracted to a man of Indian subcontinent descent or appearance so my profile says I'm not interested in meeting them. Yes, I may miss out on a few that I do fancy, but the balance of probabilities, based on experience, is that I won't fancy them. Therefore I'd rather prioritise people I am more likely to be attracted to. It also avoids the high risk of meeting and me having to say, 'sorry but there's no spark'.

So, when you change your status to bisexual and start considering ever man that contacts you on a case by case basis, I'll do the same for Asians. Deal?

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By *rown ThunderMan
over a year ago

newport


"Let me see, OP. You're straight, you say? Isn't that sexist or discrimination against gay or bi-men that might want to meet you?

What's that? You aren't attracted to men? How can you know? Surely it should be on a case by case basis?

We're all wired however we're wired and we're attracted to whomever we're attracted to. Nobody likes to be excluded but it's not discrimination to have sexual preferences. That's why you're allowed to define yourself as straight without being accused of discrimination.

I'm not often attracted to black guys, at least based on their looks and a profile on here. If I got to know them, maybe there would be an attraction. But this isn't a place for getting to know people in great depth prior to meeting.

Because I am occasionally attracted to black men, I do take it on a case by case basis. I have never yet been attracted to a man of Indian subcontinent descent or appearance so my profile says I'm not interested in meeting them. Yes, I may miss out on a few that I do fancy, but the balance of probabilities, based on experience, is that I won't fancy them. Therefore I'd rather prioritise people I am more likely to be attracted to. It also avoids the high risk of meeting and me having to say, 'sorry but there's no spark'.

So, when you change your status to bisexual and start considering ever man that contacts you on a case by case basis, I'll do the same for Asians. Deal?"

Well said..bet he feels like a fool for even posting this up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let me see, OP. You're straight, you say? Isn't that sexist or discrimination against gay or bi-men that might want to meet you?

What's that? You aren't attracted to men? How can you know? Surely it should be on a case by case basis?

We're all wired however we're wired and we're attracted to whomever we're attracted to. Nobody likes to be excluded but it's not discrimination to have sexual preferences. That's why you're allowed to define yourself as straight without being accused of discrimination.

I'm not often attracted to black guys, at least based on their looks and a profile on here. If I got to know them, maybe there would be an attraction. But this isn't a place for getting to know people in great depth prior to meeting.

Because I am occasionally attracted to black men, I do take it on a case by case basis. I have never yet been attracted to a man of Indian subcontinent descent or appearance so my profile says I'm not interested in meeting them. Yes, I may miss out on a few that I do fancy, but the balance of probabilities, based on experience, is that I won't fancy them. Therefore I'd rather prioritise people I am more likely to be attracted to. It also avoids the high risk of meeting and me having to say, 'sorry but there's no spark'.

So, when you change your status to bisexual and start considering ever man that contacts you on a case by case basis, I'll do the same for Asians. Deal?"

so op must be homophobic , I can't believe in this day and age , someone is refusing to have sex with someone just because of their sexuality

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

Sounds like the race card to us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are so many profiles on here only looking for black guys..

When I was on here as a couple our profile stated black guys only (that was our thing) white guys didn't pull the racist card on us...because...it's personal preferance. ...

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

Play the race card too much and the cry wolf syndrome kicks in. That's why real racism is on the rise. The race carders and pc muppets have played it too much, bored society silly with it, diluted understanding of racism whilst real racists are cashing in on it's effects.

Funny as fcuk to think anyone would hint at racism or racial hatred because someone isn't interested in someone sexually

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"There are so many profiles on here only looking for black guys..

When I was on here as a couple our profile stated black guys only (that was our thing) white guys didn't pull the racist card on us...because...it's personal preferance. ..."

When I was meeting guys alone, before meeting my partner here, I had no end of abuse from white guys when I said my preference was for black guys .... we are as good, do you only duck monkeys, etc., quite disgusting really, considering I have mixed race children, to think that people think of them like that ... but of course, I know it happens. I have said before that often the language used on profiles can be inflammatory, and harks back to the segregationalist language used in the USA or South African, or even the NO Irish, No Dogs, No Blacks from last century in the UK .... I feel people should take responsibility for the power of the language they use and what their choices are instigating ... you can express your sexual preferences in a different and more positive way, surely?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I think that the op is being a little disingenuous here. He claims to come from the US, historically one of the most racist countries in the world. You only have to turn on the TV at the moment, and this is in the UK, to hear what seems like yet another story about the police killing an unarmed black man. The awful incident we saw in charlstown where black church goers were murdered in cold blood, while they worshiped, in Church. The list goes on and on.

So to come on here and effectivley start a thread with the premise of, "Somebody, somewhere said something racist on the internet. I'm so offended." I really don't follow.

He could be suggesting that because of swingers open minded attitudes towards certain subjects, He believed them to be so liberally intelligent and without prejudice, to the man and without exception, that the chance of someone being both a swinger and a racist was next to impossible. Imagine his suprise when the very next day when he when onto FS and found one almost straight away. Sniff, sniff, Nah. "

I'm a black woman and I thought exactly this!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"One thing I found odd, even strange is the fact that,

if I spoke to a elder person, and asked them is

a spade a black racial slur? I get the answer yes, yet

these days people have black spades tattooed on women

to signify their so called love for black men, yet

not one of them date, nor get into relationships

with black people... hmmm...

my black activist speaking here, but the history is deep

enough... "

i have no tattoos and I was married to a man of African origin for 13 years. What do you make of this?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

people always find a way to complain about the things that exclude them.... and use to to blame everything for their woes...

"oh but its everyone elses fault.... those mean nasty pastys!!! I am completely blameless and it was beyond my control!"

complete copout!!!

i don't see the current fixation of trying to convert people to something they are not interested in.... as opposed to spend that time and energy making yourself not worth passing up to those who would be interested....

chip on shoulder...... people are happy to play the game and play up the game when it goes in their favour.... but quick to play the race card when it doesn't....

oh that double edged sword eh......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"people always find a way to complain about the things that exclude them.... and use to to blame everything for their woes...

"oh but its everyone elses fault.... those mean nasty pastys!!! I am completely blameless and it was beyond my control!"

complete copout!!!

i don't see the current fixation of trying to convert people to something they are not interested in.... as opposed to spend that time and energy making yourself not worth passing up to those who would be interested....

chip on shoulder...... people are happy to play the game and play up the game when it goes in their favour.... but quick to play the race card when it doesn't....

oh that double edged sword eh...... "

Well you have been verified by 129 people it's certainly not your looks drawing them in

Must be the same thing I always say women don't care what you look like wether your clever or rich or even how you dress its personality nothing else ,

If more guys realised they too could have 100 plus meets if they worked on their personality and stopped whinging the forums would be very quiet

But most importantly they should listen to guys like you and what you say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let me see, OP. You're straight, you say? Isn't that sexist or discrimination against gay or bi-men that might want to meet you?

What's that? You aren't attracted to men? How can you know? Surely it should be on a case by case basis?

We're all wired however we're wired and we're attracted to whomever we're attracted to. Nobody likes to be excluded but it's not discrimination to have sexual preferences. That's why you're allowed to define yourself as straight without being accused of discrimination.

I'm not often attracted to black guys, at least based on their looks and a profile on here. If I got to know them, maybe there would be an attraction. But this isn't a place for getting to know people in great depth prior to meeting.

Because I am occasionally attracted to black men, I do take it on a case by case basis. I have never yet been attracted to a man of Indian subcontinent descent or appearance so my profile says I'm not interested in meeting them. Yes, I may miss out on a few that I do fancy, but the balance of probabilities, based on experience, is that I won't fancy them. Therefore I'd rather prioritise people I am more likely to be attracted to. It also avoids the high risk of meeting and me having to say, 'sorry but there's no spark'.

So, when you change your status to bisexual and start considering ever man that contacts you on a case by case basis, I'll do the same for Asians. Deal?"

I am sorry really disagree with this agreement in terms of gender preference because if you follow your logic then gay men who dont sleep with women are mysogenitic and lesbians are men haters. If we accept that gay choices are innate l am puzzled why being straight is is not nnate. Certainly there is the argument that sexuality is a spectrum but if gay people can be one end of the spectrum then being straight can be one end of the spectrum.

I also disagree about people complaining about the use of the so called race card. Racism exists and it is not myth as is sexism. A lot of our preferences are not hot wired but cultural and social extensions we do not spend the time to analyse the origin and just say that is the way I am made.

Personally whenever anyone says that is they way things are l disagree my reaction is why. Challenging lazy preconceptions is the duty of right thinking people.

That being said l accept that once society dictates who anyone sleeps with or forms a relationship it is a slippery slope. It is not too long ago that america revoked its interracial sex laws. I always remember seeing a picture from the second world war of a German women whose head had been shaved and she was wearing a placard saying "I am a swine for sleeping with a jew." The concern when people say 'whites only' is the history of white supremacy. The blacks only does not have such a powerful or corrosive history.

Sorry for the rant but different discrimination comes from different history and circumstances.

I

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"people always find a way to complain about the things that exclude them.... and use to to blame everything for their woes...

"oh but its everyone elses fault.... those mean nasty pastys!!! I am completely blameless and it was beyond my control!"

complete copout!!!

i don't see the current fixation of trying to convert people to something they are not interested in.... as opposed to spend that time and energy making yourself not worth passing up to those who would be interested....

chip on shoulder...... people are happy to play the game and play up the game when it goes in their favour.... but quick to play the race card when it doesn't....

oh that double edged sword eh...... "

Why is referred to as a 'race card'? Suggests that it's some sort of advantage (a hand or 'get out of jail card') that you play when things gets difficult. Also, strange that it often used in reference to groups where no such advantage exists!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen profiles from white women specifically requesting Black guys only. I do see the no black or asian men thing a lot though too. Not sure what it is. social conditioning? Just an inbuilt scientific preference towards physical similarity?

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By *D40Couple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton


"Being a black swinger, I have been subjected to one very strange type of treatment that I just don't understand.

People who say, very specifically, might I add, that they don't want anything to do with black men. Or, as many people put it "AA" which means African Americans.

I just don't get it. Is it the thug image? Because every race has their own group of classless, violent people. It can't be just that.

And it can't be the skin color, because, here in America, we have Hispanic and Latino people. Which span every skin color from pale white to deep black, and I see no one complaining about them. It's not education or professionalism, because I know too many doctorate holding, highly professional black people personally and we're all over TV and movies too. Hell, I'm nothing special, but even I have a 134 IQ. It's nothing superhuman, but I'm not an idiot.

So, what is it? What is so bad about black people, especially black American men that turns people off? I doubt I've ever seen a profile that specifically states "NO WHITE MEN". But I have seen "NO BLACK MEN" or "please no African Americans" on people's profiles all over the place. Including here on fab.

I don't like to pull the race card...but

I mean....

Isn't that crap kinda racist? Maybe y'all could help me out.

I mean, I get plenty of play. Don't get me wrong. I've stacked the deck in my favor by working out, studying, and getting money. So, I'm good. I really am.

Just curious. A tiny bit disappointed, but mostly curious."

Our profile states that i do not find men of colour sexually attractive. Neither do i find blonde, fair or ginger men attractive. It is not a racist thing as i have black male friends & females from different cultures, its just my sexual preference.

No offence is ever intended.

Mrs _d40 x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being a black swinger, I have been subjected to one very strange type of treatment that I just don't understand.

People who say, very specifically, might I add, that they don't want anything to do with black men. Or, as many people put it "AA" which means African Americans.

I just don't get it. Is it the thug image? Because every race has their own group of classless, violent people. It can't be just that.

And it can't be the skin color, because, here in America, we have Hispanic and Latino people. Which span every skin color from pale white to deep black, and I see no one complaining about them. It's not education or professionalism, because I know too many doctorate holding, highly professional black people personally and we're all over TV and movies too. Hell, I'm nothing special, but even I have a 134 IQ. It's nothing superhuman, but I'm not an idiot.

So, what is it? What is so bad about black people, especially black American men that turns people off? I doubt I've ever seen a profile that specifically states "NO WHITE MEN". But I have seen "NO BLACK MEN" or "please no African Americans" on people's profiles all over the place. Including here on fab.

I don't like to pull the race card...but

I mean....

Isn't that crap kinda racist? Maybe y'all could help me out.

I mean, I get plenty of play. Don't get me wrong. I've stacked the deck in my favor by working out, studying, and getting money. So, I'm good. I really am.

Just curious. A tiny bit disappointed, but mostly curious."

From a UK perspective this seems like the typical 'race card'/it's not fair/I've got a chip on my shoulder attitude.

Some people don't want to meet blacks/Asians or even whites. It's not a bit 'rascist', it's called freedom of choice.

Live with it and man up instead if whining.

And btw, my profile clearly states 'Black men only' and I've had enough white guys moan like old sissys'. Swinging is all about personal freedom and I don't see the point in wasting the time of white guys, whatever their IQ, so I state clearly, Black only.

Respect the choice of others and move on and enjoy swinging. Don't focus on those who don't want to meet you.

Focus on those who do!

I've spoken with many white couples in the US who only want black men, or AA as you call it.

So enjoy and be positive.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Being a black swinger, I have been subjected to one very strange type of treatment that I just don't understand.

People who say, very specifically, might I add, that they don't want anything to do with black men. Or, as many people put it "AA" which means African Americans.

.....

Isn't that crap kinda racist? Maybe y'all could help me out."

Sorry OP but it sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder... and are bloody greedy.

As has already been said.

Some people find one race or skin type less attractive sexually. This is not racist, simply preference.

You have loads of veris so just enjoy those that are interested, and get over yourself.

For the record, we have no racial or colour preference at all. We both find people from a variety of backgrounds attractive.

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London

OP. You need to take that plank off your shoulder because it's weighing you down, and replace it with a chip, just for insurance.

My profile states that no one under 33 should step my way.

Does that make me ageist, no.

It says my preference is not for young girls. My choice.

I once was seeing a woman and she had never been with a white man and had no intention of ever going with one. So in your world that would make her racist.

Jokingly I use to call het a racist and we'd both laugh about it.

Opps forgot to mention, the lady on question was white.

And yes, she had never and had no intention of ever.

So please don't be to quick to pull the race card out.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Busty...

You said it much better than me...

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Let me see, OP. You're straight, you say? Isn't that sexist or discrimination against gay or bi-men that might want to meet you?

What's that? You aren't attracted to men? How can you know? Surely it should be on a case by case basis?

We're all wired however we're wired and we're attracted to whomever we're attracted to. Nobody likes to be excluded but it's not discrimination to have sexual preferences. That's why you're allowed to define yourself as straight without being accused of discrimination.

I'm not often attracted to black guys, at least based on their looks and a profile on here. If I got to know them, maybe there would be an attraction. But this isn't a place for getting to know people in great depth prior to meeting.

Because I am occasionally attracted to black men, I do take it on a case by case basis. I have never yet been attracted to a man of Indian subcontinent descent or appearance so my profile says I'm not interested in meeting them. Yes, I may miss out on a few that I do fancy, but the balance of probabilities, based on experience, is that I won't fancy them. Therefore I'd rather prioritise people I am more likely to be attracted to. It also avoids the high risk of meeting and me having to say, 'sorry but there's no spark'.

So, when you change your status to bisexual and start considering ever man that contacts you on a case by case basis, I'll do the same for Asians. Deal?

I am sorry really disagree with this agreement in terms of gender preference because if you follow your logic then gay men who dont sleep with women are mysogenitic and lesbians are men haters. If we accept that gay choices are innate l am puzzled why being straight is is not nnate. Certainly there is the argument that sexuality is a spectrum but if gay people can be one end of the spectrum then being straight can be one end of the spectrum.

I also disagree about people complaining about the use of the so called race card. Racism exists and it is not myth as is sexism. A lot of our preferences are not hot wired but cultural and social extensions we do not spend the time to analyse the origin and just say that is the way I am made.

Personally whenever anyone says that is they way things are l disagree my reaction is why. Challenging lazy preconceptions is the duty of right thinking people.

That being said l accept that once society dictates who anyone sleeps with or forms a relationship it is a slippery slope. It is not too long ago that america revoked its interracial sex laws. I always remember seeing a picture from the second world war of a German women whose head had been shaved and she was wearing a placard saying "I am a swine for sleeping with a jew." The concern when people say 'whites only' is the history of white supremacy. The blacks only does not have such a powerful or corrosive history.

Sorry for the rant but different discrimination comes from different history and circumstances.

I"

Absolutely, yes, if it's racist for white people to not want to want to shag black people then any and every preference is open to the same interpretation.

Being straight (whether male or female) is discrimination, being gay (again, male or female) is discrimination.

If we're saying, as the OP is, that it's not possible to say we're not attracted to an entire group of people, and we should take people on a case by case basis, then that same argument can be used for any preference.

I used being allowed to identify as straight without being accused of discrimination because the OP identifies as straight. Any sexual identity that isn't bisexual/pansexual is just the same.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"One thing I found odd, even strange is the fact that,

if I spoke to a elder person, and asked them is

a spade a black racial slur? I get the answer yes, yet

these days people have black spades tattooed on women

to signify their so called love for black men, yet

not one of them date, nor get into relationships

with black people... hmmm...

my black activist speaking here, but the history is deep

enough...

i have no tattoos and I was married to a man of African origin for 13 years. What do you make of this?"

My goodness me, how could I have missed this original post? I was married to an African American in the US for a few years (not too many, but enough to have three children with him) and all of my relationships have been with black guys since. When I started here on fabs I only met black guys, now, I am in a long term and serious relationship with my partner, who is black. I rarely meet alone these days, and when I do it is with women, and when we play as a couple, it is mainly him who plays with bi guys, not me ... there are plenty, plenty women who meet black guys on the scene who have been in serious relationships and had children with black guys - I know it because many of them are my friends.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its the same as saying most women want a bbc instead, its personal preferences lol.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

I think there are women, and couples, who treat the BBC as an object, but many of us do not. Indeed the very reason we prefer BBC is because of the relationship, be it restricted to the bedroom or outside it. Just as there are people on here who treat others they meet as objects in the loosest sense of the word.

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London


"I think there are women, and couples, who treat the BBC as an object, but many of us do not. Indeed the very reason we prefer BBC is because of the relationship, be it restricted to the bedroom or outside it. Just as there are people on here who treat others they meet as objects in the loosest sense of the word. "

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I think there are women, and couples, who treat the BBC as an object, but many of us do not. "

and this in a nutshell is what it comes down to... but this isn't just the issue and its a two-way thing in that there are enough people willing to be objectified if it means helping their chances of getting a meet

and enough people playing it up becuase they see it as any advantage....and giving it enough thought for example to have it in their names... or running it as a theme thru their profiles... or putting it in messages they may send to people....

and the sad thing is it wont get any better because the little brain overrules the big brain so to speak

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By *rodigalMan
over a year ago

sunderland

Wife got told off for saying black man at work apparently it's colored man what color tho ffs? !!! And she wasn't being racist

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Wife got told off for saying black man at work apparently it's colored man what color tho ffs? !!! And she wasn't being racist "

Uh coloured is generally seen as an unacceptable term. "Person of colour" is the currently accepted phrase. Black is considered fine by most black people I've ever heard comment.

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By *lackgrapeMan
over a year ago

Purley


"Being a black swinger, I have been subjected to one very strange type of treatment that I just don't understand.

People who say, very specifically, might I add, that they don't want anything to do with black men. Or, as many people put it "AA" which means African Americans.

I just don't get it. Is it the thug image? Because every race has their own group of classless, violent people. It can't be just that. Hi friend this really shouldn't surprise you its a mentality/attitude which is here to stay so I wouldn't give it a f..k we all live to die which means no ones superior and no ones inferior the moment you entertain such conceptions you're a loser coz whatever is stored up and hidden away in a dark heart it will take just a spark for the mouth to reveal ones true nature so my advice to u is....dont give it fuck

And it can't be the skin color, because, here in America, we have Hispanic and Latino people. Which span every skin color from pale white to deep black, and I see no one complaining about them. It's not education or professionalism, because I know too many doctorate holding, highly professional black people personally and we're all over TV and movies too. Hell, I'm nothing special, but even I have a 134 IQ. It's nothing superhuman, but I'm not an idiot.

So, what is it? What is so bad about black people, especially black American men that turns people off? I doubt I've ever seen a profile that specifically states "NO WHITE MEN". But I have seen "NO BLACK MEN" or "please no African Americans" on people's profiles all over the place. Including here on fab.

I don't like to pull the race card...but

I mean....

Isn't that crap kinda racist? Maybe y'all could help me out.

I mean, I get plenty of play. Don't get me wrong. I've stacked the deck in my favor by working out, studying, and getting money. So, I'm good. I really am.

Just curious. A tiny bit disappointed, but mostly curious."

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By *lackgrapeMan
over a year ago

Purley


"Move to London, OP. You will have no time to complain. "
its never always greener on the so called other side x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I doubt I've ever seen a profile that specifically states "NO WHITE MEN". But I have seen "NO BLACK MEN" or "please no African Americans" on people's profiles all over the place. Including here on fab.

"

Really?

I've seen hundreds of "looking for BBC only" profiles.

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By *lackgrapeMan
over a year ago

Purley


"Wife got told off for saying black man at work apparently it's colored man what color tho ffs? !!! And she wasn't being racist

Uh coloured is generally seen as an unacceptable term. "Person of colour" is the currently accepted phrase. Black is considered fine by most black people I've ever heard comment."
I personally prefer being referred to as black coz thats what I am

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've already posted on the other Black , BBC thread, and by the way, I don't like the term BBC, but that's my view, and if it gets people what they want out of this site , then surely that's up to them

In all honesty I don't even look at Caucasain men, now being politically correct here.

I love chocolate of the non fattening kind and feel I have way more in common with them outside the bedroom and to me that's vital to the development of some mental turn on

I've heard horror stories from guys who are being treated with a severe lack of respect because of their skin colour, like one stopped in Asda while shopping with his son, to be asked by a guy to meet him in the car park afterwards as him and his wife have a proposition for him.... Shameful

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By *lackgrapeMan
over a year ago

Purley


"Play the race card too much and the cry wolf syndrome kicks in. That's why real racism is on the rise. The race carders and pc muppets have played it too much, bored society silly with it, diluted understanding of racism whilst real racists are cashing in on it's effects.

Funny as fcuk to think anyone would hint at racism or racial hatred because someone isn't interested in someone sexually "
racism has never been on the rise , its been ever present just concealed and its here to stay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've already posted on the other Black , BBC thread, and by the way, I don't like the term BBC, but that's my view, and if it gets people what they want out of this site , then surely that's up to them

In all honesty I don't even look at Caucasain men, now being politically correct here.

I love chocolate of the non fattening kind and feel I have way more in common with them outside the bedroom and to me that's vital to the development of some mental turn on

I've heard horror stories from guys who are being treated with a severe lack of respect because of their skin colour, like one stopped in Asda while shopping with his son, to be asked by a guy to meet him in the car park afterwards as him and his wife have a proposition for him.... Shameful "

what was the proposition?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a 'swinger', I've went to lots of socials,parties, and clubs over the years..I enjoy meeting people from all walks of life.There may be no sexual agenda from my side or theirs.

Lets be honest... there are people out there who have admitted they would not meet other races,disabled people,bisexual,crossdressers,transgender etc, regardless of any sexual play, and would certainly not meet people who have met other races for sex.

so lets hear the question based on a open minded swinging view rather than it being about sexual attraction..

I'll meet anyone in the right the right environment and give them the respect they deserve as a person..regardless of whether am getting to shag them.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

bloody hell paddy... when did you get all serious.... who's kidnapped the real paddy!!!

seriously though.... fair play... i feel the same....

I have walked from situations where i have felt that i was there in a meet as some kind of object....

if my early swinging days i probably got myself into situations that I know from hindsight I wouldn't do now... because I have grown within myself and am much better at saying " this is me... like it or hate it, but i aint gonna change"

did the black/white party scene... tried it, didn't like it, wouldn't do it again for a whole lot of reasons too numerous, but the main one was the objectification that was going on.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wife got told off for saying black man at work apparently it's colored man what color tho ffs? !!! And she wasn't being racist "

Was this in 1976?

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By *ethepeopleMan
over a year ago

Near you


"I've already posted on the other Black , BBC thread, and by the way, I don't like the term BBC, but that's my view, and if it gets people what they want out of this site , then surely that's up to them

In all honesty I don't even look at Caucasain men, now being politically correct here.

I love chocolate of the non fattening kind and feel I have way more in common with them outside the bedroom and to me that's vital to the development of some mental turn on

I've heard horror stories from guys who are being treated with a severe lack of respect because of their skin colour, like one stopped in Asda while shopping with his son, to be asked by a guy to meet him in the car park afterwards as him and his wife have a proposition for him.... Shameful

what was the proposition?"

^ This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"bloody hell paddy... when did you get all serious.... who's kidnapped the real paddy!!!

seriously though.... fair play... i feel the same....

I have walked from situations where i have felt that i was there in a meet as some kind of object....

if my early swinging days i probably got myself into situations that I know from hindsight I wouldn't do now... because I have grown within myself and am much better at saying " this is me... like it or hate it, but i aint gonna change"

did the black/white party scene... tried it, didn't like it, wouldn't do it again for a whole lot of reasons too numerous, but the main one was the objectification that was going on..... "

lol Fabio,

One example I will never forget:

A couple invited an asian couple(that they thought were hot)to their party..but retracted the invite because other party goers would not meet asians...

I'm still flummoxed it was posted..and I was pretty much disgusted.

Even in a play environment(with similar people) not everyone's gonna want to play with another person..its easy enough to say no thanks, in a civil manner then continue to party.

I just dont see why thats so hard to do when you meet someone outwith your sexual preference.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

what about Pandas? They are black and white and asian

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I doubt I've ever seen a profile that specifically states "NO WHITE MEN". But I have seen "NO BLACK MEN" or "please no African Americans" on people's profiles all over the place. Including here on fab.

Really?

I've seen hundreds of "looking for BBC only" profiles."

Get a penis extension and some black paint

Problem solved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"what about Pandas? They are black and white and asian "
. They are also ideal for quick meets cos they eat shoots and leaves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I doubt I've ever seen a profile that specifically states "NO WHITE MEN". But I have seen "NO BLACK MEN" or "please no African Americans" on people's profiles all over the place. Including here on fab.

Really?

I've seen hundreds of "looking for BBC only" profiles.

Get a penis extension and some black paint

Problem solved "

What problem?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've already posted on the other Black , BBC thread, and by the way, I don't like the term BBC, but that's my view, and if it gets people what they want out of this site , then surely that's up to them

In all honesty I don't even look at Caucasain men, now being politically correct here.

I love chocolate of the non fattening kind and feel I have way more in common with them outside the bedroom and to me that's vital to the development of some mental turn on

I've heard horror stories from guys who are being treated with a severe lack of respect because of their skin colour, like one stopped in Asda while shopping with his son, to be asked by a guy to meet him in the car park afterwards as him and his wife have a proposition for him.... Shameful

what was the proposition?

^ This"
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Clearly they'd locked their keys in in the car and needed someone to help them break into it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've already posted on the other Black , BBC thread, and by the way, I don't like the term BBC, but that's my view, and if it gets people what they want out of this site , then surely that's up to them

In all honesty I don't even look at Caucasain men, now being politically correct here.

I love chocolate of the non fattening kind and feel I have way more in common with them outside the bedroom and to me that's vital to the development of some mental turn on

I've heard horror stories from guys who are being treated with a severe lack of respect because of their skin colour, like one stopped in Asda while shopping with his son, to be asked by a guy to meet him in the car park afterwards as him and his wife have a proposition for him.... Shameful

what was the proposition?

^ This.

Clearly they'd locked their keys in in the car and needed someone to help them break into it "

She had ran out of

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've already posted on the other Black , BBC thread, and by the way, I don't like the term BBC, but that's my view, and if it gets people what they want out of this site , then surely that's up to them

In all honesty I don't even look at Caucasain men, now being politically correct here.

I love chocolate of the non fattening kind and feel I have way more in common with them outside the bedroom and to me that's vital to the development of some mental turn on

I've heard horror stories from guys who are being treated with a severe lack of respect because of their skin colour, like one stopped in Asda while shopping with his son, to be asked by a guy to meet him in the car park afterwards as him and his wife have a proposition for him.... Shameful

what was the proposition?

^ This"

Doesn't look as though we're going to find out. Very intriguing

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By *lackgrapeMan
over a year ago

Purley


"I've already posted on the other Black , BBC thread, and by the way, I don't like the term BBC, but that's my view, and if it gets people what they want out of this site , then surely that's up to them

In all honesty I don't even look at Caucasain men, now being politically correct here.

I love chocolate of the non fattening kind and feel I have way more in common with them outside the bedroom and to me that's vital to the development of some mental turn on

I've heard horror stories from guys who are being treated with a severe lack of respect because of their skin colour, like one stopped in Asda while shopping with his son, to be asked by a guy to meet him in the car park afterwards as him and his wife have a proposition for him.... Shameful "

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By *lackgrapeMan
over a year ago

Purley

Mmm"Precious Danger" I think you and I better sit down ...or probably lie down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mmm"Precious Danger" I think you and I better sit down ...or probably lie down "

.I always read your user name as " black rape"

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By *cMohawk_AdventureGirlCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Being a black swinger, I have been subjected to one very strange type of treatment that I just don't understand.

People who say, very specifically, might I add, that they don't want anything to do with black men. Or, as many people put it "AA" which means African Americans.

I just don't get it. Is it the thug image? Because every race has their own group of classless, violent people. It can't be just that.

And it can't be the skin color, because, here in America, we have Hispanic and Latino people. Which span every skin color from pale white to deep black, and I see no one complaining about them. It's not education or professionalism, because I know too many doctorate holding, highly professional black people personally and we're all over TV and movies too. Hell, I'm nothing special, but even I have a 134 IQ. It's nothing superhuman, but I'm not an idiot.

So, what is it? What is so bad about black people, especially black American men that turns people off? I doubt I've ever seen a profile that specifically states "NO WHITE MEN". But I have seen "NO BLACK MEN" or "please no African Americans" on people's profiles all over the place. Including here on fab.

I don't like to pull the race card...but

I mean....

Isn't that crap kinda racist? Maybe y'all could help me out.

I mean, I get plenty of play. Don't get me wrong. I've stacked the deck in my favor by working out, studying, and getting money. So, I'm good. I really am.

Just curious. A tiny bit disappointed, but mostly curious."

Seems like old-fashioned racism to me. Although it's quite a useful filter I reckon - we want nothing to do with bigots, sexually or otherwise!

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By *r Man.Man
over a year ago

London

Where's the OP in all this?

Its all gone quite over there...

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Wife got told off for saying black man at work apparently it's colored man what color tho ffs? !!! And she wasn't being racist

Uh coloured is generally seen as an unacceptable term. "Person of colour" is the currently accepted phrase. Black is considered fine by most black people I've ever heard comment.

I personally prefer being referred to as black coz thats what I am "

I try not to offend but sometimes it's really difficult. When I was growing up, black was bad and coloured was the 'acceptable' term.

I'm told that the term coloured has negative connotations and we're now back to saying black of people of colour.

I'll refer to people however they want to be referred to, as long as they let me know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've already posted on the other Black , BBC thread, and by the way, I don't like the term BBC, but that's my view, and if it gets people what they want out of this site , then surely that's up to them

In all honesty I don't even look at Caucasain men, now being politically correct here.

I love chocolate of the non fattening kind and feel I have way more in common with them outside the bedroom and to me that's vital to the development of some mental turn on

I've heard horror stories from guys who are being treated with a severe lack of respect because of their skin colour, like one stopped in Asda while shopping with his son, to be asked by a guy to meet him in the car park afterwards as him and his wife have a proposition for him.... Shameful

what was the proposition?"

When this friend ignored him the other guy pulled up in front of his car so he couldn't move and past him a card through the window and said , my wife wants for her birthday.

I can't imagine the explanation my friend had to give his son on the way home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wife got told off for saying black man at work apparently it's colored man what color tho ffs? !!! And she wasn't being racist

Uh coloured is generally seen as an unacceptable term. "Person of colour" is the currently accepted phrase. Black is considered fine by most black people I've ever heard comment.

I personally prefer being referred to as black coz thats what I am

I try not to offend but sometimes it's really difficult. When I was growing up, black was bad and coloured was the 'acceptable' term.

I'm told that the term coloured has negative connotations and we're now back to saying black of people of colour.

I'll refer to people however they want to be referred to, as long as they let me know."

My ex brother in law lives in the states and is with a lady who is part Pawnee , my son said ah that's a red Indian..... Well that's TV for you....

Needless to say we all know they're Native Americans !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mmm"Precious Danger" I think you and I better sit down ...or probably lie down "

Now why didn't I think of that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I should just stop worrying about it OP. There's plenty of fun to go round. We're quite proud of the fact that we've always been totally non rascist in our look for naughty fun. There's millions of people like us I hope . Not all doom and gloom is it ?

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By *lackgrapeMan
over a year ago

Purley


"Mmm"Precious Danger" I think you and I better sit down ...or probably lie down

Now why didn't I think of that "
your place or mine ?xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mmm"Precious Danger" I think you and I better sit down ...or probably lie down

Now why didn't I think of that your place or mine ?xxx"

Invitation accepted ....watch this space

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Plenty of no white men profiles on this site. Also lots of no Asians. No blacks. Pretty much every skin type gets equal unequal treatment.

But that leaves plenty more to play with.

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By *eKoopleCouple
over a year ago

Germany / Manchester


"Mmm"Precious Danger" I think you and I better sit down ...or probably lie down

Now why didn't I think of that your place or mine ?xxx

Invitation accepted ....watch this space "

Amongst the barrage of efforts trying to deconstruct racism, at least two people find positivity through all the noise. Mr.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This post reminds me of a joke.

What's the difference between a whore and bitch?

A whore will fuck everybody but a bitch will fuck everybody but you.

Op it's only sex , don't worry about who doesn't want to fuck you. Focus on those that will

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This post reminds me of a joke.

What's the difference between a whore and bitch?

A whore will fuck everybody but a bitch will fuck everybody but you.

Op it's only sex , don't worry about who doesn't want to fuck you. Focus on

those that will"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Play the race card too much and the cry wolf syndrome kicks in. That's why real racism is on the rise. The race carders and pc muppets have played it too much, bored society silly with it, diluted understanding of racism whilst real racists are cashing in on it's effects.

Funny as fcuk to think anyone would hint at racism or racial hatred because someone isn't interested in someone sexually racism has never been on the rise , its been ever present just concealed and its here to stay "

Definitely agree with this unfortunately

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By *b coupleCouple
over a year ago

southampton


"Do we in the UK have a corresponding term to AA? I think as far as I know we say black apart from the tick boxes on forms where they like you to be specific. Anyone born here is called British. I've never heard anyone say Black British or African British. I'm just wondering out loud. "

Sorry but you're wrong, I have to tick black Caribbean /white British. There's a few options available lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a shame theres not any more black women on here, localish anyways there seems to be a few but all 100s of mile away

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By *onnoisseur100Man
over a year ago

Woking-ish

I haven't contacted you because I don't fancy you or any other man really. As for the 'black' label I'm very interested in meeting black female's whether single or in a couple.

Sadly there is no BFFC!!!! plus being a single male I have very little chance of meeting up with some nice swingers on here!

But I keep plugging away!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do we in the UK have a corresponding term to AA? I think as far as I know we say black apart from the tick boxes on forms where they like you to be specific. Anyone born here is called British. I've never heard anyone say Black British or African British. I'm just wondering out loud.

Sorry but you're wrong, I have to tick black Caribbean /white British. There's a few options available lol "

So how is she wrong when that's exactly what she said?

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

Black British I know people have ticked, but my children born in the USA of African American/Caucasian mix - I never know what to tick for them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have seen a lot of profiles that state Black only and others that states White only. People just have to respect others preference. I'm a black African who prefers white woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have seen a lot of profiles that state Black only and others that states White only. People just have to respect others preference. "

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford


"I have seen a lot of profiles that state Black only and others that states White only. People just have to respect others preference. I'm a black African who prefers white woman. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do we in the UK have a corresponding term to AA? I think as far as I know we say black apart from the tick boxes on forms where they like you to be specific. Anyone born here is called British. I've never heard anyone say Black British or African British. I'm just wondering out loud.

Sorry but you're wrong, I have to tick black Caribbean /white British. There's a few options available lol

So how is she wrong when that's exactly what she said? "

Here's the irony of ethnicity 'pigeon holing'. You don't actually have to tick ANY box. You are actually supposed to tick the category that you feel you fall into. So you tick what you feel you are.

I've known a couple of folk from African or carribean heritage tick 'other' and write 'British'. Simple.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do we in the UK have a corresponding term to AA? I think as far as I know we say black apart from the tick boxes on forms where they like you to be specific. Anyone born here is called British. I've never heard anyone say Black British or African British. I'm just wondering out loud.

Sorry but you're wrong, I have to tick black Caribbean /white British. There's a few options available lol

So how is she wrong when that's exactly what she said?

Here's the irony of ethnicity 'pigeon holing'. You don't actually have to tick ANY box. You are actually supposed to tick the category that you feel you fall into. So you tick what you feel you are.

I've known a couple of folk from African or carribean heritage tick 'other' and write 'British'. Simple.

"

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