FabSwingers.com forum: Question...

By *layalong OP Couple
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I'm just wondering why there are so many singles on this site? I thought swinging was a couple thing? Nobody chew my head off I'm just wondering!

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By *ilmiss75Woman
over a year ago

Thornton

Can singles not have sex?

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

Swinging started as wife swapping. Used to be a couples thing. Now singles join in.. How else would couples enjoy MMF/MFF/gang bangs etc...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some use it for 1 on 1 sex meets.

Some use it for swinging meets.

Some use it for group meets.

Swinging isn't just a couple thing anymore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm just wondering why there are so many singles on this site? I thought swinging was a couple thing? Nobody chew my head off I'm just wondering! "

because the scene became diverse...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The site lets singles to join, there is your answer lol.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I'm needed for mmf sessions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Simple answer to your question .

Probably over 70% are guys looking for a quick fuck, whereas the real swingers tend to play together as a couple, with veris to prove it .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If singles didn't join, it would be pretty empty lol

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By *layalong OP Couple
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I'm not complaining, I'm just new to this and I wasn't sure so I asked!!!

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Single men are needed to referee the lesbian gang sex competitions. Trust me, it's hard!

C...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

to be honest..there are plenty of couples that would not be considered swingers...by 'swingers', just based on how they play..or dont.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"I'm just wondering why there are so many singles on this site? I thought swinging was a couple thing? Nobody chew my head off I'm just wondering! "

Lots of them aren't swingers, just singles looking to fuck singles. Many look down upon swingers and can't understand why we do it and say they would never do it themselves.

Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3some.

Singles can be swingers if they believe in ethical non-monogamy and would be ethically non-monogamous in future relationships, but many aren't and wouldn't describe themselves as swingers.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

"Simple answer to your question .

Probably over 70% are guys looking for a quick fuck, whereas the real swingers tend to play together as a couple, with veris to prove it ."

So I suppose the single girls aren't then?

Wife swapping stopped being the be all and end all in the late 60's.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm just wondering why there are so many singles on this site? I thought swinging was a couple thing? Nobody chew my head off I'm just wondering!

Lots of them aren't swingers, just singles looking to fuck singles. Many look down upon swingers and can't understand why we do it and say they would never do it themselves.

Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3some.

Singles can be swingers if they believe in ethical non-monogamy and would be ethically non-monogamous in future relationships, but many aren't and wouldn't describe themselves as swingers.

*Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3some.

is this you harping on again that a married male should be able to join an mf couple moreso than a single male?.....

ha.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm just wondering why there are so many singles on this site? I thought swinging was a couple thing? Nobody chew my head off I'm just wondering!

Lots of them aren't swingers, just singles looking to fuck singles. Many look down upon swingers and can't understand why we do it and say they would never do it themselves.

Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3some.

Singles can be swingers if they believe in ethical non-monogamy and would be ethically non-monogamous in future relationships, but many aren't and wouldn't describe themselves as swingers.

This attitude is why I will never call myself a swinger. Some imagined hierarchy. No thanks.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Is swinging on the slide?

C...

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"I'm just wondering why there are so many singles on this site? I thought swinging was a couple thing? Nobody chew my head off I'm just wondering!

Lots of them aren't swingers, just singles looking to fuck singles. Many look down upon swingers and can't understand why we do it and say they would never do it themselves.

Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3some.

Singles can be swingers if they believe in ethical non-monogamy and would be ethically non-monogamous in future relationships, but many aren't and wouldn't describe themselves as swingers.

Yes you could use one half of a couple to make a threesome but a great deal of profiles ive seen and posts in the forum state they only play/meet as a couple. Won't play without each other. The women won't play with a guy just watching as they don't like it etc.

I agree with you that single people just wanting private meets with other singles aren't really swingers and ive never seen any insisting that they are. But plenty of singles enjoy group sex, swingers clubs etc. I don't see the problem as long as it's clear what everyone is looking for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The door was open

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the easiest way of putting it is that swinging, like most things, has evolved.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They're not singles anyhow; they're swingles.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"The door was open"

And they haven't kicked me out yet.

I think swinging has moved on from the wife-swapping, car-keys in a bowl scene that was around last century. Singles can be part of the swinging scene quite successfully because its more of a lifestyle. Socials, clubs, parties, even festivals can be enhanced by single people who are ready and willing to join in and give as good as they get.

Also, I'm here to shag people, and don't get much luck on dating sites. Until the site admin change the rules, I'm here to stay.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"I'm just wondering why there are so many singles on this site? I thought swinging was a couple thing? Nobody chew my head off I'm just wondering!

Lots of them aren't swingers, just singles looking to fuck singles. Many look down upon swingers and can't understand why we do it and say they would never do it themselves.

Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3some.

Singles can be swingers if they believe in ethical non-monogamy and would be ethically non-monogamous in future relationships, but many aren't and wouldn't describe themselves as swingers.

This attitude is why I will never call myself a swinger. Some imagined hierarchy. No thanks."

You don't get it. There has to be a label and you have to be able to tell other people they don't qualify as much as you do for that label and then look down on them.

We are not here simply to have great sex with beautiful people. We are here to do it better than others too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm just wondering why there are so many singles on this site? I thought swinging was a couple thing? Nobody chew my head off I'm just wondering!

Lots of them aren't swingers, just singles looking to fuck singles. Many look down upon swingers and can't understand why we do it and say they would never do it themselves.

Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3some.

Singles can be swingers if they believe in ethical non-monogamy and would be ethically non-monogamous in future relationships, but many aren't and wouldn't describe themselves as swingers.

This attitude is why I will never call myself a swinger. Some imagined hierarchy. No thanks.

You don't get it. There has to be a label and you have to be able to tell other people they don't qualify as much as you do for that label and then look down on them.

We are not here simply to have great sex with beautiful people. We are here to do it better than others too."

*curtsey*

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"I'm just wondering why there are so many singles on this site? I thought swinging was a couple thing? Nobody chew my head off I'm just wondering!

Lots of them aren't swingers, just singles looking to fuck singles. Many look down upon swingers and can't understand why we do it and say they would never do it themselves.

Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3some.

Singles can be swingers if they believe in ethical non-monogamy and would be ethically non-monogamous in future relationships, but many aren't and wouldn't describe themselves as swingers.

*Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3some.

is this you harping on again that a married male should be able to join an mf couple moreso than a single male?.....

ha."

Why more so than a single male? I have never said that so I'm not "harping on again"

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside

oh dear did we gatecrash some exclusive party?

of course sex out of wedlock was totally frowned upon..but as the church crumbles and control over society recedes, we get to rebel and damn authoritarian structure...yes! .up the revolution of total freedom..yippee...

may it continue to get worse for all labels

giggles

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"I'm just wondering why there are so many singles on this site? I thought swinging was a couple thing? Nobody chew my head off I'm just wondering!

Lots of them aren't swingers, just singles looking to fuck singles. Many look down upon swingers and can't understand why we do it and say they would never do it themselves.

Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3some.

Singles can be swingers if they believe in ethical non-monogamy and would be ethically non-monogamous in future relationships, but many aren't and wouldn't describe themselves as swingers.

We have had MFMs and FMF, both as an entirety, and as party of an evening of MF MF fun. This appears to be extremely common in the party and clubs that we have attended.

You say you have never seen people insisting that single with single is swinging, but I saw it on the forum just yesterday.

With singles and group sex, I see lots of requests for group sex where everyone is single, but I don't see them actually happening.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some singles that only meet singles ARE swingers. It's not a numbers game, it's an attitude.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"I'm just wondering why there are so many singles on this site? I thought swinging was a couple thing? Nobody chew my head off I'm just wondering!

Lots of them aren't swingers, just singles looking to fuck singles. Many look down upon swingers and can't understand why we do it and say they would never do it themselves.

Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3some.

Singles can be swingers if they believe in ethical non-monogamy and would be ethically non-monogamous in future relationships, but many aren't and wouldn't describe themselves as swingers.

This attitude is why I will never call myself a swinger. Some imagined hierarchy. No thanks."

Exactly. The worst thing about this scene is people who regard themselves as 'proper' swingers.

We're all just people who have sex with people in addition to our partners, get over yourselves!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3 some.

I love broad sweeping generalisations, pigeon holes and labelling.

I'd be inclined to disagree slightly with your posture and say you can only enjoy MMF or FMF as a couple with a single.

An MF MF couple enjoying an MMF or FMF encounter is three people having fun while the spare stands around looking like a, well, spare.....

Putting being pedantic or frivolous to one side, as a fellow fabber has said, swinging has moved on from the dark ages and evolved into something quite different.

20 years from now it will be different again.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I've been on the scene (on and off) for 15 years and can honestly say I only ever see this debate on forums. No-one in a club, at a party, or on a meet has stated 'oh well, you're single so you can't be a swinger' and flounced off in a huff.

If you don't like singles in the swinging scene, don't meet them. If you do meet them, please try to refrain from berating them about what they call themselves. Who really cares?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Simple answer to your question .

Probably over 70% are guys looking for a quick fuck, whereas the real swingers tend to play together as a couple, with veris to prove it ."

Guess I'm not a swinger then because I like to be the third person to a couple primarily.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3 some.

I love broad sweeping generalisations, pigeon holes and labelling.

I'd be inclined to disagree slightly with your posture and say you can only enjoy MMF or FMF as a couple with a single.

An MF MF couple enjoying an MMF or FMF encounter is three people having fun while the spare stands around looking like a, well, spare.....

Putting being pedantic or frivolous to one side, as a fellow fabber has said, swinging has moved on from the dark ages and evolved into something quite different.

20 years from now it will be different again."

I have never seen a partner standing around being "spare" o have seen them recovering from an orgasm, I have seen them taking photos, I have seen them observing (observation is participation), and I have seen them playing with other people and enjoying themselves.

But perhaps you are right and people viewing others as "spare" will move on and be laughed at in 20 years time.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"I'm just wondering why there are so many singles on this site? I thought swinging was a couple thing? Nobody chew my head off I'm just wondering!

Lots of them aren't swingers, just singles looking to fuck singles. Many look down upon swingers and can't understand why we do it and say they would never do it themselves.

Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3some.

Singles can be swingers if they believe in ethical non-monogamy and would be ethically non-monogamous in future relationships, but many aren't and wouldn't describe themselves as swingers.

This attitude is why I will never call myself a swinger. Some imagined hierarchy. No thanks.

Exactly. The worst thing about this scene is people who regard themselves as 'proper' swingers.

We're all just people who have sex with people in addition to our partners, get over yourselves!

on this forum I have seen people look down on cheaters, I have seen people look down on others fantasies, I have seen people look down on people with racial preferences, look down on other peoples risk aware sex preferences, but I have never seen anyone say "I'm a proper swinger and you're not"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm just wondering why there are so many singles on this site? I thought swinging was a couple thing? Nobody chew my head off I'm just wondering!

Lots of them aren't swingers, just singles looking to fuck singles. Many look down upon swingers and can't understand why we do it and say they would never do it themselves.

Singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF, if you have 2 MF MF couples, you can easily play in a 3some.

Singles can be swingers if they believe in ethical non-monogamy and would be ethically non-monogamous in future relationships, but many aren't and wouldn't describe themselves as swingers.

This attitude is why I will never call myself a swinger. Some imagined hierarchy. No thanks.

Exactly. The worst thing about this scene is people who regard themselves as 'proper' swingers.

We're all just people who have sex with people in addition to our partners, get over yourselves!

Really, because that's exactly how I read a couple of your comments.

"Lots of them aren't swingers" They're not, you are.

"Singles are not needed" Because they are singles and only couples can be swingers.

Sorry, my bad.......

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

" Really, because that's exactly how I read a couple of your comments.

"Lots of them aren't swingers" They're not, you are.

"Singles are not needed" Because they are singles and only couples can be swingers.

Sorry, my bad.......

Lots of singles here aren't swingers, even singles on this thread have said they aren't swingers. The OP said that they "thought swinging was a couple thing". So I was just pointing out that there are singles on here who do not consider themselves swingers. I wasn't placing judgement on that, just pointing out a fact, perhaps you have read more into that statement than was intended by me?

The "singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF" comment was in relation to the 3rd post in the thread, by MissHottieBody where she said "How else would couples enjoy MMF/MFF/gang bangs etc..." I was answering her question/statement.

I wrote "singles are not needed for a MFM or a FMF", but it sounds as though you read "singles are not needed" or even "singles are not needed in the lifestyle". You have typed above "Because they are singles and only couples can be swingers." I never said that, that is you reading something that is not there and completing ignoring part of my post where I said "Singles can be swingers if they believe in ethical non-monogamy and would be ethically non-monogamous in future relationships"

So although you may read my comments saying "I'm a proper swinger and you're not", that is not what I think, or wrote.

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By *hortieWoman
over a year ago

Northampton

Evolution, Baby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"to be honest..there are plenty of couples that would not be considered swingers...by 'swingers', just based on how they play..or dont."

Yes , that's very true .

We have even been chastised here on the forums for not being proper swingers .

And just because we like sex and not socials !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And just because we like sex and not socials !

Totally agree with this comment.

I've heard socials are to bit bitchy and cliquey so I give socials a swerve

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm on here as dating is horrendous and most lie about what they want. At least on here you know its about sex and nothing more xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Really, because that's exactly how I read a couple of your comments.

"Lots of them aren't swingers" They're not, you are.

"Singles are not needed" Because they are singles and only couples can be swingers.

Sorry, my bad.......

So although you may read my comments saying "I'm a proper swinger and you're not", that is not what I think, or wrote."

CLCC, I'm not a swinger, so I'm not being defensive here, just pointing out something that I read from you earlier. And you do seem to be very clear in your opinion (which is absolutely fine!).

What I read earlier was your answer to the question "why do some prefer a couple over a single woman?"

Which was:

"Maybe its because the OP is interested in swinging? Some would say that single plus single isn't swinging after all?

I agree that most singles aren't swingers, so I don't think you need to backtrack.

But also you don't need to roll eyes and criticise. Just let everyone get on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Really, because that's exactly how I read a couple of your comments.

"Lots of them aren't swingers" They're not, you are.

"Singles are not needed" Because they are singles and only couples can be swingers.

Sorry, my bad.......

So although you may read my comments saying "I'm a proper swinger and you're not", that is not what I think, or wrote."

I read that into your posts too, so perhaps your phrasing sucked a bit?

B- could do better?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"I have never seen anyone say "I'm a proper swinger and you're not""

I have on here, loads of times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinging is a lifestyle and can involve any demographic.

What it isn't is cheating/going behind partners back.

Hence the animosity towards the many, many (mostly guys) who are "playing (or not actually playing) away".

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"I have never seen anyone say "I'm a proper swinger and you're not"

I have on here, loads of times. "

Me too! Lots of times!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Singles can be swingers if they believe in ethical non-monogamy and would be ethically non-monogamous in future relationships, but many aren't and wouldn't describe themselves as swingers.

I wasn't aware that there was a rule book...All this time and we haven't been following the rules at all...damn us and our ability for independent thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm needed for mmf sessions."

Or mff sessions

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By *layalong OP Couple
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Well I guess that answered my question!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well I guess that answered my question!"

We're all here to help.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a swinger, didn't actually properly know what a swinger was until i joined up here.

It's good place for me to find men to have sex with and single guys for 3 sums too.

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By *histler21Man
over a year ago

Ipswich

"Swinging started as wife swapping. Used to be a couples thing. Now singles join in.. How else would couples enjoy MMF/MFF/gang bangs etc..."

MMF - 2 MF couples, F takes the photos

MFF - 2 MF couples, M takes the photos

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

"Simple answer to your question .

Probably over 70% are guys looking for a quick fuck, whereas the real swingers tend to play together as a couple, with veris to prove it ."

I'd be curious to know how single women factor into this or is it a case of because your "interested" in one joining the fun then that's ok they are on here even though singles apparently aren't "real swingers"

And what about as I like to call a 'swingle' (swinging single) like myself who was part of a successful couple till we parted ways, have played on the scene alone since and intends to one day be part of a swinging couple again can that mean I'm only a real swinger once I'm playing with a man on my arm again?

Personally I believe the world of swinging as evolved dramatically since the days of wife swapping and swinging is a state of mind, your either open to it or you aren't so it therefore can't be stereotyped

Would just like to state I'm not being funny I'm just curious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's only one of me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not really fussed what name, label or title people use to interact with one another.

The only words I'm really concerned about are respect, fun, mutual and consenting.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"Swinging started as wife swapping. Used to be a couples thing. Now singles join in.. How else would couples enjoy MMF/MFF/gang bangs etc...

MMF - 2 MF couples, F takes the photos

MFF - 2 MF couples, M takes the photos"

What if we can't be bothered with photos. We cant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm single.

I don't see myself as a swinger

I also know I couldn't share someone I have deep feelings for

That said I do not cast judgements on those who do. In fact I really respect their choices. Some of the strongest relationships I've ever seen have been swinging relationships

I'm here to chat to explore and I remain open minded to all possibilities.

There are many other single people on here who feel the same way. Yet very quickly we are shot down as hypocrites or dishonest.

People can and should use this site however they like so long as they respect other people on it.

Too many people spend too much time discussing what other prole do and trying to second guess why. Just accept. Move on if they aren't for you and don't take it so seriously

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Simple answer to your question .

Probably over 70% are guys looking for a quick fuck, whereas the real swingers tend to play together as a couple, with veris to prove it .

Would just like to state I'm not being funny I'm just curious "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm single.

I don't see myself as a swinger

I also know I couldn't share someone I have deep feelings for

That said I do not cast judgements on those who do. In fact I really respect their choices. Some of the strongest relationships I've ever seen have been swinging relationships

I'm here to chat to explore and I remain open minded to all possibilities.

There are many other single people on here who feel the same way. Yet very quickly we are shot down as hypocrites or dishonest.

People can and should use this site however they like so long as they respect other people on it.

Too many people spend too much time discussing what other prole do and trying to second guess why. Just accept. Move on if they aren't for you and don't take it so seriously "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can only speak for myself as a single guy, I was part of a married couple and we where quite active on fab and the club scene

So when my marriage dissolved i thought why should I miss out on a lifestyle we happily enjoyed for years just because I'm now not a couple?

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By *appy101Woman
over a year ago

Telford

"They're not singles anyhow; they're swingles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't care of people call me a swinger or not. I'm meeting people and having fun end of

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