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* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
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"I agree with some of it but not all of it. I think it works both ways but I don't expect men to be jumping through hoops and treating me like a potential wife, all I really expect is to be shown respect at all times." Thanks... Again maybe it's because I always put my heart and soul into a meet, to make it as great as it can be.. At least initially.. I just feel upset when someone makes me feel they arent bothered. | |||
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"I'm not sure why the clueless will either read your post or act on your advice if they do. It's quite a rarity for a man asking for advice to actually act on it. It's common sense and general social skills. Some people lack both and can't be told. No matter how often you weigh sheep, they are still sheep." I think you have a good point here. But it helped me to vent | |||
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"And you are invited into someone's home and you expect the dress as if they are going out...... Invited into their home, invite them to yours and stipulate the dress code "I expect them to be naked, oiled up, and ready to perform. | |||
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"And you are invited into someone's home and you expect the dress as if they are going out...... Invited into their home, invite them to yours and stipulate the dress code "And then be there in my pj's and hair curlers | |||
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"And you are invited into someone's home and you expect the dress as if they are going out...... Invited into their home, invite them to yours and stipulate the dress code
I expect them to be naked, oiled up, and ready to perform. "Now you are onto something | |||
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"Haha sorry I just found this post hilarious "make more effort than you would if you wanted to marry the girl" ... superb!!!" Thanks.. I stick by it though. | |||
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"I'm not sure why the clueless will either read your post or act on your advice if they do. It's quite a rarity for a man asking for advice to actually act on it. It's common sense and general social skills. Some people lack both and can't be told. No matter how often you weigh sheep, they are still sheep." | |||
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"And you are invited into someone's home and you expect the dress as if they are going out...... Invited into their home, invite them to yours and stipulate the dress code
And then be there in my pj's and hair curlers"smoking a fag, I am liking your look | |||
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"If this has been prompted by several disappointing meets then perhaps your selection process might need a little tweaking? I know it's sometimes difficult to tell how things are going to work out until you get down to it, but if it's not what you were expecting, then stop it in its tracks. And yes, I'm sure your post could apply to both men, woman, couples." Maybe you could write me a guide?? Lol | |||
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"I'm not sure why the clueless will either read your post or act on your advice if they do. It's quite a rarity for a man asking for advice to actually act on it. It's common sense and general social skills. Some people lack both and can't be told. No matter how often you weigh sheep, they are still sheep." thank you steve..... the reason why i have issues with this are varied... it could apply to single women and couples... as well as single guys... but you decided to pick on single guys and make them your pariah... a lot of the advice relates to how you want men to treat you.... I don't see how you turned "spokesperson" for all women... and say "this is how it how it had to be done!!! this is what we all want and by god darn i will get it or else!" i like really short guides... here is mine.... Time, Patience, Basic Common Sense..... if people can't work it out from there.... i don't think people should be swinging....... and inadvertantly... you gave people who do want to waste time a template on how to do it..... you also make it harder for people to work out who "gets it" from those who dont..... thus you made it harder for those who do "get it" to stand out.... i don't think guys will be having an "epithany" moment thinking... oh lord, all this time i have been doing it wrong!!!! | |||
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"If this has been prompted by several disappointing meets then perhaps your selection process might need a little tweaking? I know it's sometimes difficult to tell how things are going to work out until you get down to it, but if it's not what you were expecting, then stop it in its tracks. And yes, I'm sure your post could apply to both men, woman, couples. Maybe you could write me a guide?? Lol" Choose wiser, if the ones you are selecting are letting you down, you are the common denominator | |||
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"I have a real problem with a lot of what you said.... but i am going to let others hopefully have a say before i come back and have mine.... i am going to go away for 15 minutes.... " I disagree with most of it tbh. OP that is how you see things - not everyone. Trying to preach how people should interact is counter-productive. Those that are sensible already know how best to interact. Those that don't have just been shown how to falsely present themselves to come across in a positive way to you. It doesn't change their personality one bit. A | |||
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
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Thought it was a good read, as others have said it does go both ways. However as you are a female I presume most of your meets are with guys and therefore you're not best places to discuss the ways of the clueless women.
I'm not a clueless guy but I have learnt from one of the points there. I'll not let you know which one though ha ha | |||
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"I'm not sure why the clueless will either read your post or act on your advice if they do. It's quite a rarity for a man asking for advice to actually act on it. It's common sense and general social skills. Some people lack both and can't be told. No matter how often you weigh sheep, they are still sheep. thank you steve..... the reason why i have issues with this are varied... it could apply to single women and couples... as well as single guys... but you decided to pick on single guys and make them your pariah... a lot of the advice relates to how you want men to treat you.... I don't see how you turned "spokesperson" for all women... and say "this is how it how it had to be done!!! this is what we all want and by god darn i will get it or else!" i like really short guides... here is mine.... Time, Patience, Basic Common Sense..... if people can't work it out from there.... i don't think people should be swinging....... and inadvertantly... you gave people who do want to waste time a template on how to do it..... you also make it harder for people to work out who "gets it" from those who dont..... thus you made it harder for those who do "get it" to stand out.... i don't think guys will be having an "epithany" moment thinking... oh lord, all this time i have been doing it wrong!!!! " All true! I should rename it a guide for anyone wanting to meet _ecretescape | |||
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
Thought it was a good read, as others have said it does go both ways. However as you are a female I presume most of your meets are with guys and therefore you're not best places to discuss the ways of the clueless women.
I'm not a clueless guy but I have learnt from one of the points there. I'll not let you know which one though ha ha"Thank you! The post has now been worthwhile
Not sure if it's coincidence but I have just received some most enticing messages compared to the awful one liners I have been getting recently. So maybe it will be worthwhile | |||
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"For me, I get 'ready as if I'm going out' whether I'm meeting at my house, someone else's house, a club, a hotel, dogging, a party, a social etc etc Fab is about 'fantasy sex', not just a fumble and like everyone, my time is precious. If I wanted 'just sex', I'd go to a vanilla club and get a one night stand. I guess we all seek different things from the swinging world but for me I want every meet to be an 'occasion', that involves everyone making an effort. I'm not here for someone's second best. " | |||
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"I agree with some of it but not all of it. I think it works both ways but I don't expect men to be jumping through hoops and treating me like a potential wife, all I really expect is to be shown respect at all times." | |||
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"A bit to much effort lol, but good guide tho "One reaps what one sows | |||
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"A bit to much effort lol, but good guide tho
One reaps what one sows"Yes that's right, also I am not in a hurry to get meets | |||
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
Thought it was a good read, as others have said it does go both ways. However as you are a female I presume most of your meets are with guys and therefore you're not best places to discuss the ways of the clueless women.
I'm not a clueless guy but I have learnt from one of the points there. I'll not let you know which one though ha ha
Thank you! The post has now been worthwhile
Not sure if it's coincidence but I have just received some most enticing messages compared to the awful one liners I have been getting recently. So maybe it will be worthwhile "Maybe the same people who would have sent crappy one liners until you kindly gave them a template to follow?
As I said earlier - does it actually change them as a person? Or just hide how they would have behaved were they not spoon fed?
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
Thought it was a good read, as others have said it does go both ways. However as you are a female I presume most of your meets are with guys and therefore you're not best places to discuss the ways of the clueless women.
I'm not a clueless guy but I have learnt from one of the points there. I'll not let you know which one though ha ha
Thank you! The post has now been worthwhile
Not sure if it's coincidence but I have just received some most enticing messages compared to the awful one liners I have been getting recently. So maybe it will be worthwhile
Maybe the same people who would have sent crappy one liners until you kindly gave them a template to follow?
As I said earlier - does it actually change them as a person? Or just hide how they would have behaved were they not spoon fed?
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
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"I agree with some of it but not all of it. I think it works both ways but I don't expect men to be jumping through hoops and treating me like a potential wife, all I really expect is to be shown respect at all times. "And vice versa right ? Her | |||
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
Why do men have to be seen to be making the most effort? Surely this works both ways . .
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"I agree with some of it but not all of it. I think it works both ways but I don't expect men to be jumping through hoops and treating me like a potential wife, all I really expect is to be shown respect at all times.
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
Why do men have to be seen to be making the most effort? Surely this works both ways . .
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I never said anything about women. I don't have one to one meets with women, I just know I ALWAYS make as much effort myself as I would if it were a date with the love of my life. "So the thread should actually have read 'clueless people ' ? | |||
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"I'm not sure why the clueless will either read your post or act on your advice if they do. It's quite a rarity for a man asking for advice to actually act on it. It's common sense and general social skills. Some people lack both and can't be told. No matter how often you weigh sheep, they are still sheep. thank you steve..... the reason why i have issues with this are varied... it could apply to single women and couples... as well as single guys... but you decided to pick on single guys and make them your pariah... a lot of the advice relates to how you want men to treat you.... I don't see how you turned "spokesperson" for all women... and say "this is how it how it had to be done!!! this is what we all want and by god darn i will get it or else!" i like really short guides... here is mine.... Time, Patience, Basic Common Sense..... if people can't work it out from there.... i don't think people should be swinging....... and inadvertantly... you gave people who do want to waste time a template on how to do it..... you also make it harder for people to work out who "gets it" from those who dont..... thus you made it harder for those who do "get it" to stand out.... i don't think guys will be having an "epithany" moment thinking... oh lord, all this time i have been doing it wrong!!!! " Personally I would rather they continued to be shit! Makes it easier for those of us who already have the manners and common sense to do these things. | |||
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" Personally I would rather they continued to be shit! Makes it easier for those of us who already have the manners and common sense to do these things." well you would have thought so.... the way it is at the moment is at least you can tell..... its like people trying to re-invent something that isn't broken... | |||
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" Personally I would rather they continued to be shit! Makes it easier for those of us who already have the manners and common sense to do these things. well you would have thought so.... the way it is at the moment is at least you can tell..... its like people trying to re-invent something that isn't broken..." How can you tell? I've chatted with some 'great' guys online who certainly were not the person they proclaimed to be in real life! | |||
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" Personally I would rather they continued to be shit! Makes it easier for those of us who already have the manners and common sense to do these things. well you would have thought so.... the way it is at the moment is at least you can tell..... its like people trying to re-invent something that isn't broken... How can you tell? I've chatted with some 'great' guys online who certainly were not the person they proclaimed to be in real life!" We have to accept that is the risk we all face. There will be as many guys who feel deflated after a meet but they won't post on these types of threads. It is the way it is, a handful of guys will put forward their honest opinion, the rest will fall silent and their cocks will go inward quicker than jumping in freezing water. The rest will message promising they are everything as described in the OP. You can minimise the risk but never guarantee you won't be let down by something people on line promise. | |||
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" Personally I would rather they continued to be shit! Makes it easier for those of us who already have the manners and common sense to do these things. well you would have thought so.... the way it is at the moment is at least you can tell..... its like people trying to re-invent something that isn't broken... How can you tell? I've chatted with some 'great' guys online who certainly were not the person they proclaimed to be in real life! We have to accept that is the risk we all face. There will be as many guys who feel deflated after a meet but they won't post on these types of threads. It is the way it is, a handful of guys will put forward their honest opinion, the rest will fall silent and their cocks will go inward quicker than jumping in freezing water. The rest will message promising they are everything as described in the OP. You can minimise the risk but never guarantee you won't be let down by something people on line promise. " Totally agree...my biggest concern on a first as a lady is being a disappointment/not what someone was expecting. I do read profiles and hope that mine reflects the 'real me'. Whilst one person may think someone is great in bed and another may not, I think we all appreciate someone who makes an effort appearance, dress, hospitality wise...perhaps! | |||
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" You can minimise the risk but never guarantee you won't be let down by something people on line promise. " So very true. | |||
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" Personally I would rather they continued to be shit! Makes it easier for those of us who already have the manners and common sense to do these things. well you would have thought so.... the way it is at the moment is at least you can tell..... its like people trying to re-invent something that isn't broken... How can you tell? I've chatted with some 'great' guys online who certainly were not the person they proclaimed to be in real life! We have to accept that is the risk we all face. There will be as many guys who feel deflated after a meet but they won't post on these types of threads. It is the way it is, a handful of guys will put forward their honest opinion, the rest will fall silent and their cocks will go inward quicker than jumping in freezing water. The rest will message promising they are everything as described in the OP. You can minimise the risk but never guarantee you won't be let down by something people on line promise. Totally agree...my biggest concern on a first as a lady is being a disappointment/not what someone was expecting. I do read profiles and hope that mine reflects the 'real me'. Whilst one person may think someone is great in bed and another may not, I think we all appreciate someone who makes an effort appearance, dress, hospitality wise...perhaps! " | |||
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
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"a lot of the advice relates to how you want men to treat you.... I don't see how you turned "spokesperson" for all women... and say "this is how it how it had to be done!!! this is what we all want and by god darn i will get it or else!" i like really short guides... here is mine.... Time, Patience, Basic Common Sense..... "
Every woman on here is looking for something different, just as every man is. Exchanging messages allows you to see if you're looking for the same things and you can take it from there. I want to meet guys with their own independent thoughts...I don't want some guy reading stuff like this and then messaging me thinking I want to be treated 'like his wife to be'...I want to meet, chat and fuck not find out about his medical history and next of kin!
As for the way he dresses, I want him to be comfortable not feel like a performing seal. It bugs me when guys try to tell me what to wear so why should I expect to be able to do it to him? Showered and in clean clothes works for me...hopefully they won't be on for long.
And as for no cock pics, some of us don't mind them. Admittedly a profile with 23 shots of it from different angles with nothing else on show is an instant delete for me as there is more to a man than his penis, but one or two mixed in with body shots works for me.
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"a lot of the advice relates to how you want men to treat you.... I don't see how you turned "spokesperson" for all women... and say "this is how it how it had to be done!!! this is what we all want and by god darn i will get it or else!" i like really short guides... here is mine.... Time, Patience, Basic Common Sense.....
Every woman on here is looking for something different, just as every man is. Exchanging messages allows you to see if you're looking for the same things and you can take it from there. I want to meet guys with their own independent thoughts...I don't want some guy reading stuff like this and then messaging me thinking I want to be treated 'like his wife to be'...I want to meet, chat and fuck not find out about his medical history and next of kin!
As for the way he dresses, I want him to be comfortable not feel like a performing seal. It bugs me when guys try to tell me what to wear so why should I expect to be able to do it to him? Showered and in clean clothes works for me...hopefully they won't be on for long.
And as for no cock pics, some of us don't mind them. Admittedly a profile with 23 shots of it from different angles with nothing else on show is an instant delete for me as there is more to a man than his penis, but one or two mixed in with body shots works for me.
If you're finding you're getting a lot of crap messages from unappealing profiles then look for appealing ones and contact them...you might find your disappointment reducing. And there endeth my rant too!" | |||
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"I feel sooooo sorry for the OP; she really didn't bargain on these replies and might be feeling a little crushed now. However, I think she's learnt a lot from the responses. "I feel more sorry for her recent veries...don't think I'd like to read a forum post from a meet stating they'd been left disapointed | |||
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
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I feel more sorry for her recent veries...don't think I'd like to read a forum post from a meet stating they'd been left disapointed"They do say if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all.. | |||
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"It always surprises me how critical people can be of other people's opinions on here. I read the OP as as bit of a vent after being disappointed recently but as we all know it can be the little things that can turn a situation. Sometimes you can get on well by PM and arrange a meet but if you turn up somewhere and the couple haven't bothered to tidy up or haven't put any effort into looking half decent it can instantly sour how you feel about them. That in turn ends up spoiling the rest of the meet or put you off going any further. It's the links we make in our mind to what this stuff means. E.g. If the house is dirty, is the person you're meeting actually going to be clean themselves? They may well be but once that seed of doubt is sewn, the magic of the moment has gone. I took it as a light hearted reminder to people to just make a bit of an effort. After all, if I was a single bloke and a woman came to my house for a meet, I wouldn't want to invite them in to be met with "Oh..." If you were going out, you'd dress good, smell good. If you don't bother when the meet arrives, what does that say about how much you value their thoughts about you? It's a respect thing. To the OP - I liked the post. It made me smile." Thanks, that's how I meant it | |||
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"It always surprises me how critical people can be of other people's opinions on here To the OP - I liked the post. It made me smile. Thanks, that's how I meant it "I think it's how most of us understood it aswell but as this poster already said,alot of those on here just love to tell folks how you're wrong and they're right.. Same with most forums everywhere | |||
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"If people bothered to read profiles this wouldn't be needed. " The one's that need to read this male and female don't read the forum's, if you could pin up in one of the wank rooms then maybe...connie x | |||
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"I have a real problem with a lot of what you said.... but i am going to let others hopefully have a say before i come back and have mine.... i am going to go away for 15 minutes.... " Was it the sock thing - you want her to wash your socks, don't you! | |||
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"It always surprises me how critical people can be of other people's opinions on here. I read the OP as as bit of a vent after being disappointed recently but as we all know it can be the little things that can turn a situation. Sometimes you can get on well by PM and arrange a meet but if you turn up somewhere and the couple haven't bothered to tidy up or haven't put any effort into looking half decent it can instantly sour how you feel about them. That in turn ends up spoiling the rest of the meet or put you off going any further. It's the links we make in our mind to what this stuff means. E.g. If the house is dirty, is the person you're meeting actually going to be clean themselves? They may well be but once that seed of doubt is sewn, the magic of the moment has gone. I took it as a light hearted reminder to people to just make a bit of an effort. After all, if I was a single bloke and a woman came to my house for a meet, I wouldn't want to invite them in to be met with "Oh..." If you were going out, you'd dress good, smell good. If you don't bother when the meet arrives, what does that say about how much you value their thoughts about you? It's a respect thing. To the OP - I liked the post. It made me smile."
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" My advice is simple:- - Live & let love - If at first you don't succeed, try again with an upgrade. - Life is once so she ain't worth it boys "I'm so with you on this one man... What happens, happens.... Just go with it and embrace the bad and the good, it all goes into forging a personality. | |||
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"I'm not sure why the clueless will either read your post or act on your advice if they do. It's quite a rarity for a man asking for advice to actually act on it. It's common sense and general social skills. Some people lack both and can't be told. No matter how often you weigh sheep, they are still sheep. thank you steve..... the reason why i have issues with this are varied... it could apply to single women and couples... as well as single guys... but you decided to pick on single guys and make them your pariah... a lot of the advice relates to how you want men to treat you.... I don't see how you turned "spokesperson" for all women... and say "this is how it how it had to be done!!! this is what we all want and by god darn i will get it or else!" i like really short guides... here is mine.... Time, Patience, Basic Common Sense..... if people can't work it out from there.... i don't think people should be swinging....... and inadvertantly... you gave people who do want to waste time a template on how to do it..... you also make it harder for people to work out who "gets it" from those who dont..... thus you made it harder for those who do "get it" to stand out.... i don't think guys will be having an "epithany" moment thinking... oh lord, all this time i have been doing it wrong!!!! " | |||
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
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"I'm not sure why the clueless will either read your post or act on your advice if they do. It's quite a rarity for a man asking for advice to actually act on it. It's common sense and general social skills. Some people lack both and can't be told. No matter how often you weigh sheep, they are still sheep. thank you steve..... the reason why i have issues with this are varied... it could apply to single women and couples... as well as single guys... but you decided to pick on single guys and make them your pariah... a lot of the advice relates to how you want men to treat you.... I don't see how you turned "spokesperson" for all women... and say "this is how it how it had to be done!!! this is what we all want and by god darn i will get it or else!" i like really short guides... here is mine.... Time, Patience, Basic Common Sense..... if people can't work it out from there.... i don't think people should be swinging....... and inadvertantly... you gave people who do want to waste time a template on how to do it..... you also make it harder for people to work out who "gets it" from those who dont..... thus you made it harder for those who do "get it" to stand out.... i don't think guys will be having an "epithany" moment thinking... oh lord, all this time i have been doing it wrong!!!! "Too right I won't be having an "epiphany". This is a guide for wanting a cardboard cut out. The grey man, of which most men are.... I personally couldn't compromise myself to obtain access to more women. | |||
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"Well said! I have heard the horror stories from females and couples. My advice is to guys is LOOK GOOD. Dress to impress not jeans and a T shirt. SMELL GOOD, remember shower n shave, and a good after shave nothing from pound land either !!! GIFTS, remember take flowers and a bottle of wine/champagne. If shes asking for money up front run lol. Its just being considerate and respectful as you are going to be intimate make it special for the lady. Manners dont hurt either. But you should be doing the above anyway if not Have a think. To the OP just wondering have you had bad experiences as you can appreciate not all men are the same. But to me seems something traumatic has happened." As you mentioned couples I can say.... we are all different, if someone turned up with presents/ champagne or feel the need to make me feel special I would be turned off. I don't want "wooing" To most of the rest of your post....it should be normal behaviour to be clean , as in a normal daily ritual so if any man needs to be told to floss and wash before a meet we would steer clear. | |||
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"REAL guide for single males: Stop kissing womens arses Stop being a suck up Stop being shit Don't be a single male, just be a MAN. I like kissing womens arses "LITERAL arse kissing is fine, as it's a healthy sign of desire, trust and playfulness, the figurative arse kissing I was referring to, where so many guys scuttle and toady around women grovelling for their affection is pathetic and exceptionally un-manly. | |||
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" *Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies! "OP; thank you for your amazing advice which I am sure will be most helpful with many who aim to meet but simply do not follow your advice should you not also advise on "safe sex" oh, wait a minute, you yourself don't practice "safe sex" or do you consider oral sex and cock sucking okay on first meet when you are not aware of the persons history or previous partners | |||
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"ADVICE FOR WOMEN OF FAB. To get the most out of your meet with a single guy on fab. We like to be pampered to. Cufflinks or a good quality watch will do. If we're meeting at your place we expect to be picked up and taken home, ( we're probably d*unk and unfit to drive ). As far as conversation goes, chat away. Just bare in mind that we've heard absolutely nothing you've said. If tea has been served. DON'T FORGET THE BISCUITS! Try to remember that we want sex and that we've sent 1000's of cock pics to everyone to get to the "meet" stage. So. Just pop your bra off and get with the sucky sucky. It's not rocket science girls! " | |||
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" * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics!" We aren't dating, we are looking to potentially fuck, so just show that you actually have some respect for yourself and the person you are talking to. Plus not everyone is put off by you showing what you have to offer so maybe just have one decent cock pic on your profile, as well as many others showing what else you have to offer. "* Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you!" See above response, this isn't a dating site but a body is more than just a cock. "* We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker "Chat away, it makes a nice change to actually meet a guy who sees who they are meeting as more than just a sex toy and have some experience, and how you talk about them tells the person you're try to fuck more about you. As long as it isn't all you talk about, and you haven't arranged/wound each other up before hand and just want to fuck. We are all adults and aware that not everyone is a virgin. "* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac." But choose a topic to suit the moment, essays can more often than not just bore people to sleep. This isn't a dating site so you don't need to tell you're life story. "* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed." Mr Grey? Hahaha haha haha No. Be yourself, don't pretend to be someone else just to get a fuck. "* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!" Just leave yourself plenty of time, if there isn't plenty of time then say it can only be a quickie or don't arrange a meet for then. "*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies! "Um, this isn't a dating site, so don't scare people off by coming on heavy! And verifications may help but YOU can only help yourself appear genuine, you've got to start somewhere. Just be yourself, that's all you can be. If you put a woman off by being genuine then that woman obviously wasn't for you. If you're a dick then you're a dick, don't pretend not to be just to fool someone so you can get a fuck | |||
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
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" *Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
OP; thank you for your amazing advice which I am sure will be most helpful with many who aim to meet but simply do not follow your advice
should you not also advise on "safe sex"
oh, wait a minute, you yourself don't practice "safe sex"
or do you consider oral sex and cock sucking okay on first meet when you are not aware of the persons history or previous partners "As a straw pole I would love to know how many people include using condoms for oral sex as a criteria on their 'practising safe sex' rule? Whilst I am certainly not dismissive of the risks, I haven't met or seen in clubs etc anyone using condoms for oral! | |||
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" *Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
OP; thank you for your amazing advice which I am sure will be most helpful with many who aim to meet but simply do not follow your advice
should you not also advise on "safe sex"
oh, wait a minute, you yourself don't practice "safe sex"
or do you consider oral sex and cock sucking okay on first meet when you are not aware of the persons history or previous partners
As a straw pole I would love to know how many people include using condoms for oral sex as a criteria on their 'practising safe sex' rule?
Whilst I am certainly not dismissive of the risks, I haven't met or seen in clubs etc anyone using condoms for oral!"
Besides love to know why we even got onto the subject of safe sex anyway. The comment seems more like a personal attack than anything. Pretty sure the OP wasn't doing a Milliband and setting things in stone as shown by her responses suspect a bit of tongue in cheek was involved. Guessing people should start add disclaimers at the end of every post.
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" *Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
OP; thank you for your amazing advice which I am sure will be most helpful with many who aim to meet but simply do not follow your advice
should you not also advise on "safe sex"
oh, wait a minute, you yourself don't practice "safe sex"
or do you consider oral sex and cock sucking okay on first meet when you are not aware of the persons history or previous partners
As a straw pole I would love to know how many people include using condoms for oral sex as a criteria on their 'practising safe sex' rule?
Whilst I am certainly not dismissive of the risks, I haven't met or seen in clubs etc anyone using condoms for oral!
Besides love to know why we even got onto the subject of safe sex anyway. The comment seems more like a personal attack than anything. Pretty sure the OP wasn't doing a Milliband and setting things in stone as shown by her responses suspect a bit of tongue in cheek was involved. Guessing people should start add disclaimers at the end of every post.
*This reply may contain a hint of saracasm, please look away if easily offended by humour*"Lol, thank you. It was tongue in cheek. And i was venting after being disappointed and upset. X | |||
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"Mental stimulation exceeds physical attraction for me everytime. Cock pics are dull. Give me a straight Stephen Fry over Vin diesel any day kat x" Agree!! | |||
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"OP - reading your post it felt like you needed to get a lot of things of your chest. It can be disappointing when you expect one thing and a completely different thing happens isn't it? Some people will tell you anything they think you want to hear to get what they want. Yes your post will tell potential meets what they need to say to you. But how many fab members actually use the forum? Most of the men I met didn't at all. There are a lot of people out there that will think the same as you. Just keep on looking. This is a varied site, which I love, and has something for most. As you said you have had some great meets. Those that were not so great just learn from them. In time you will be able to spot the tell tale signs before the meet. I preferred hotel meets in the end as I found we both made more of an effort. Getting myself ready is enough rather than having to worry what my house looked like as well. Especially as I am last minute . Com. I assume it can be the same for others. Anyhow OP my advice is not to give up on one to one meets if that is what you like. Just learn from past mistakes. Oh and keep on smiling. " thanks | |||
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" Lol, thank you. It was tongue in cheek. And i was venting after being disappointed and upset. X " So none of it was what you expect? | |||
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"Whilst I understand not all women drink alcohol, a nice bottle of wine is always welcomed, even if I opt for soft drinks....it's definitely noted that the thought was there. And a 'snuggle' and a post orgasm natter under the duvet after, in between, before round 2, 3, 4 (you get my drift) is something I love. "Rounds 3 & 4!!! You having a laugh.   | |||
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
Follow all this in the hope getting my dick wet???.... Id rather buy a fleshlight "Great idea,you can't disappoint a Flashlight | |||
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Rounds 3 & 4!!! You having a laugh. "Have you never made it to round 3? | |||
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"ADVICE FOR WOMEN OF FAB. To get the most out of your meet with a single guy on fab. We like to be pampered to. Cufflinks or a good quality watch will do. If we're meeting at your place we expect to be picked up and taken home, ( we're probably d*unk and unfit to drive ). As far as conversation goes, chat away. Just bare in mind that we've heard absolutely nothing you've said. If tea has been served. DON'T FORGET THE BISCUITS! Try to remember that we want sex and that we've sent 1000's of cock pics to everyone to get to the "meet" stage. So. Just pop your bra off and get with the sucky sucky. It's not rocket science girls! " | |||
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"I like guys to wear grey joggers (no pants on) and a white t shirt for meeting me! Love seeing a penis lump in tracksuit bottoms!" Noted. Off to sports direct now for a wardrobe update. | |||
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"Whilst I understand not all women drink alcohol, a nice bottle of wine is always welcomed, even if I opt for soft drinks....it's definitely noted that the thought was there. And a 'snuggle' and a post orgasm natter under the duvet after, in between, before round 2, 3, 4 (you get my drift) is something I love.
Rounds 3 & 4!!! You having a laugh.
Have you never made it to round 3? "Round 3 is my favourite! | |||
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"ADVICE FOR WOMEN OF FAB. To get the most out of your meet with a single guy on fab. We like to be pampered to. Cufflinks or a good quality watch will do. If we're meeting at your place we expect to be picked up and taken home, ( we're probably d*unk and unfit to drive ). As far as conversation goes, chat away. Just bare in mind that we've heard absolutely nothing you've said. If tea has been served. DON'T FORGET THE BISCUITS! Try to remember that we want sex and that we've sent 1000's of cock pics to everyone to get to the "meet" stage. So. Just pop your bra off and get with the sucky sucky. It's not rocket science girls! " Lol | |||
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" Lol, thank you. It was tongue in cheek. And i was venting after being disappointed and upset. X So none of it was what you expect ?" I did mean it, but I also realise I sound like a diva. My fantasy is a sexy man who wants to impress me with more than his cock. But i get that lots of people look for different things from fab. | |||
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" Lol, thank you. It was tongue in cheek. And i was venting after being disappointed and upset. X So none of it was what you expect ? I did mean it, but I also realise I sound like a diva. My fantasy is a sexy man who wants to impress me with more than his cock. But i get that lots of people look for different things from fab. " I have wit,charm and a cheesy foreskin..also a great collection of skiddy knickers,dating from years back | |||
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" Lol, thank you. It was tongue in cheek. And i was venting after being disappointed and upset. X So none of it was what you expect ? I did mean it, but I also realise I sound like a diva. My fantasy is a sexy man who wants to impress me with more than his cock. But i get that lots of people look for different things from fab. I have wit,charm and a cheesy foreskin..also a great collection of skiddy knickers,dating from years back "Always knew you were the guy for me | |||
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" Lol, thank you. It was tongue in cheek. And i was venting after being disappointed and upset. X So none of it was what you expect ? I did mean it, but I also realise I sound like a diva. My fantasy is a sexy man who wants to impress me with more than his cock. But i get that lots of people look for different things from fab. I have wit,charm and a cheesy foreskin..also a great collection of skiddy knickers,dating from years back
Always knew you were the guy for me "I'm a one woman guy...get in line! | |||
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" Lol, thank you. It was tongue in cheek. And i was venting after being disappointed and upset. X So none of it was what you expect ? I did mean it, but I also realise I sound like a diva. My fantasy is a sexy man who wants to impress me with more than his cock. But i get that lots of people look for different things from fab. I have wit,charm and a cheesy foreskin..also a great collection of skiddy knickers,dating from years back
Always knew you were the guy for me
I'm a one woman guy...get in line!"You can fuck off then....i don't queue | |||
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" Dont be a dick." I'll narrow it down to this- even that is subjective to different people too. If you can manage that, then.... You might get a message or response to yours- doesn't mean your lucks in You might get a social meet- doesn't mean your lucks in You might discuss arranging a 'proper' meet- doesn't mean your lucks in Basically- until you're naked and bumping uglies, despite what anyone tells you, it doesn't mean your lucks in- people change their mind quicker than the wind changes direction and with less predictability and you'll quite possibly have no idea why- just as you'll have no idea why you've suddenly got interest from someone when you don't fit what they're looking for- or something will happen to bugger up even the best plans and intention such as work, kids, illness, ex's, sudden new loves etc, etc .......welcome to the unpredictable world of swinging, some days I'm surprised anyone here gets any sex | |||
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"Ok, this is a post to help some clueless guys on here,which sadly I am making after several disappointing meets. * make conversation in your messages to get to know the woman you are chatting to.. Do not bring up sex instantly! Most women warming up first! No cock pics! * Just because women on fab love sex and don't want to marry you and wash your socks, doesn't mean they only want your cock!! We want a man who is desirable exactly the same as we would of we were going to date you! * We still want to feel appreciated, and desired and SPECIAL.. So dont spend our meet talking about your other meets! Unless we ask. Noone wants to feel like a piece of flesh. Or worse, an unpaid hooker
* Women really do love mental stimulation.. Good conversation and a sense of humour is a huge aphrodisiac.
* If a women is coming to you, make sure your place is tidy and clean, and dress as if you are going out even if you are not!!We want Mr Grey not Mr can't be arsed.
* Try and make sure you both have an idea how long you are meeting for. So you don't have to awkwardly hint that she needs to go at 10pm !! Nothing worse!!
*Basically make as much effort if not more than you would if you were trying to impress a girl you want to marry. The more effort you put in, the more she will give to you in return. AND as a single guy VERIFICATIONS ARE EVERYTHING! If she raves about you, you are much much more likely to see her again AND/OR other lovely ladies!
"This works for you: a lot of assumption on your part. I don't agree with most of this and I don't need a spokesman!
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"I'm sorry, I was under the delusion that this was a sex site - If I wanted to meet all those demands, I'd have opted for a dating site. Actually, I wouldn't, as I'm more than capable of chatting up a women the usual way - in person. However, I'm not here to meet the love of my life. Hell, I don't even want to talk to you. I don't want to get to know you - that's when things start to get fucked up. If I like you then I'd end up getting jealous - which would be stupid to say the least. And if I did like you and you liked me, it would never go anywhere because, well, I'd know that you'd of shagged a mirriad of complete strangers. This is not a dating site. It's sex site. You don't have to get to know anyone or meet a set criteria to have great sex with someone. In fact, the least said the better. Stranger sex is sooo hot! Relationship sex is also hot, but lets face it, it's just different. Oh, and verifications are meaningless. Who's going to give a bad veri? Really? We all lie. And what's good for one person, is pretty shitty for another. And can you even give a bad veri on this site anyway? You're not actually allowed to bad mouth anyone. Am I going to make as much effort for a quick shag as I would for the love of my life? Not a chance! Wouldn't exactly be the love of my life if I did now - would she? I'm sorry, but this is a dumb-ass Cosmo type guide. Basically full of crap. Maybe okay if you're a 16 year old girl looking for the fairytale love of your life, but pretty much redundant for adults who know exactly what they want and what their getting. You don't have to feel like an unpaid hooker either, because lets face it, as a women, you'll be calling all the shots and using the guy for what you want just as much as he's using you for what he wants. Sex! If it's hot, then great, maybe you'll do it again. If not, I doubt either of you will be losing any sleep over it. Okay, so there's no reason not to be clean, presentable and respectful - but that's a given - isn't it? Just don't expect too much - because well, you might be missing out on some of the hottest sex you're ever likely to have. But then again, maybe not. But I know one thing, you might get a guy who meets every single one of those guidelines, but just doesn't do it for you where it really matters. That's the downside to having preconceptions. still if it works for you - it works for you. Goodluck! " And that's exactly the reason I don't meet 1: for 'quick shags'. | |||
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"Guys, just lower your standards. You'll be fine! "If only they would.......i might get more sex!! | |||
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"I'm sorry, I was under the delusion that this was a sex site - If I wanted to meet all those demands, I'd have opted for a dating site. Actually, I wouldn't, as I'm more than capable of chatting up a women the usual way - in person. However, I'm not here to meet the love of my life. Hell, I don't even want to talk to you. I don't want to get to know you - that's when things start to get fucked up. If I like you then I'd end up getting jealous - which would be stupid to say the least. And if I did like you and you liked me, it would never go anywhere because, well, I'd know that you'd of shagged a mirriad of complete strangers. This is not a dating site. It's sex site. You don't have to get to know anyone or meet a set criteria to have great sex with someone. In fact, the least said the better. Stranger sex is sooo hot! Relationship sex is also hot, but lets face it, it's just different. Oh, and verifications are meaningless. Who's going to give a bad veri? Really? We all lie. And what's good for one person, is pretty shitty for another. And can you even give a bad veri on this site anyway? You're not actually allowed to bad mouth anyone. Am I going to make as much effort for a quick shag as I would for the love of my life? Not a chance! Wouldn't exactly be the love of my life if I did now - would she? I'm sorry, but this is a dumb-ass Cosmo type guide. Basically full of crap. Maybe okay if you're a 16 year old girl looking for the fairytale love of your life, but pretty much redundant for adults who know exactly what they want and what their getting. You don't have to feel like an unpaid hooker either, because lets face it, as a women, you'll be calling all the shots and using the guy for what you want just as much as he's using you for what he wants. Sex! If it's hot, then great, maybe you'll do it again. If not, I doubt either of you will be losing any sleep over it. Okay, so there's no reason not to be clean, presentable and respectful - but that's a given - isn't it? Just don't expect too much - because well, you might be missing out on some of the hottest sex you're ever likely to have. But then again, maybe not. But I know one thing, you might get a guy who meets every single one of those guidelines, but just doesn't do it for you where it really matters. That's the downside to having preconceptions. still if it works for you - it works for you. Goodluck! " I agree with this more than the op. | |||
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"Guys, just lower your standards. You'll be fine!
If only they would.......i might get more sex!!"I'm not sure, but I'd suggest you're not looking in the right places. Hint hint. Whistles..... Waves hands...... you hoooooo..... over here..... Makes puppy dog eyes. | |||
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"Regardless if you are male female or a couple, I really feel there is no need for a guide. Be yourself, put what you want to put that way both parties understand what the other person is like. Rather than hiding behind so called fab etiquette. " I agree. Let people be themselves then come and moan on the forum cos of lack of success. Nothing worse than a site full of decent profiles and people who actually get the life style! Easier to sort the wheat from the chaf then. | |||
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