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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

I don't smoke and never have but hoping some of you smokers and those who have or tried to give it up can help me as I'm trying to learn from giving up smoking with something else.

As well as the physical craving and need to smoke, what else is part of the habit eg the hands being busy, the social side...trying to think of how it is when you're smoking and what you miss or struggle with/replace when giving it up...all answers appreciated lovely fabbers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chew gum, mouth needs to keep busy and I do it when I drive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I quit about seven weeks ago now, for me it's mostly the social aspect I miss, so heading out for a cig with the others in work, or going out to the smoking area at Townhouse.

I've been lucky enough that my cravings have been quite manageable but have found I'm chewing more gum than I used to, or I try to have a tic tac

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"Chew gum, mouth needs to keep busy and I do it when I drive "

Ok so not just hands that need to keep busy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a smoker for 35 years I no its not bloody easy even with the products available

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"I quit about seven weeks ago now, for me it's mostly the social aspect I miss, so heading out for a cig with the others in work, or going out to the smoking area at Townhouse.

I've been lucky enough that my cravings have been quite manageable but have found I'm chewing more gum than I used to, or I try to have a tic tac "

What do you do when your mates bread out to the smoking area - go with them and be tempted or do something else?

Well done on the 7 weeks

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"As a smoker for 35 years I no its not bloody easy even with the products available "

my mother tried 3 times and was a long term smoked so have seen how hard it is.

If there was a magic wand and someone took away the craving overnight, what other things would you struggle with?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a smoker for 35 years I no its not bloody easy even with the products available

my mother tried 3 times and was a long term smoked so have seen how hard it is.

If there was a magic wand and someone took away the craving overnight, what other things would you struggle with? "

Well I'd borrow the wand to stop smoking that's for sure we keep trying but don't seam to be winning but will keep trying .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having smoked for over 30 years. I stopped in January and went on to the ecig. It does everything you need from a real cig. Without all the chemicals. The only problem been is get addicted to the ecig

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I quit I found the hard part breaking routines, when I left work, after meals or a quick one before work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out of curiosity OP why are you wanting to know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's something to occupy you- so find something else that you can do absent mindedly; i.e. I used to roll a coin over my knuckles. I have quit a couple of times now but started again with stress. Not for long though!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

We gave up smoking about 28 years ago and I still occasionally crave a cigarette and dream that I'm smoking. For me it was the whole ritual of pausing, leaning back after a meal or a period of intense concentration for instance and inhaling, feeling that hit of tobacco then exhaling and relaxing.

Giving up oddly enough was easy, I listened to an Alan Carr (I think that was his name) tape and it seemed to put me in a mind set where I no longer wanted to smoke. I've smoked one cigarette since about 27 years ago

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By *atriandjoeCouple
over a year ago

Spain and Bristol

lollipops

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

Too expensive - £7.50+ per pack of 20 fags. Especially if you smoke a pack a day (yup I know/knew someone like that). Must cost them like £50 per WEEK on fags.

Or to really shock anyone that's like £2000+ per year.

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"Out of curiosity OP why are you wanting to know"

I'll answer this first as it'll put the next replies in context - I've posted before about having a sex addiction. My physical craving has gone but I'm not sure what that means for me - I've been swinging 10 years and it's my social circle, it's my main hobby hence me wondering how people dealt with the other aspects of a smoking habit. I'm trying to help myself by learning from a similar addiction x

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"Having smoked for over 30 years. I stopped in January and went on to the ecig. It does everything you need from a real cig. Without all the chemicals. The only problem been is get addicted to the ecig "

Thanks for replying tosh. Is that because you haven't dealt with the other aspects of the habit as I've said above, replacing only the physical craving of the nicotine?

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"When I quit I found the hard part breaking routines, when I left work, after meals or a quick one before work.

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Breaking the routines is what I'm struggling with - and when I left work, after meals or a quick one before work sounds right too!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes that Is exactly right x

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"It's something to occupy you- so find something else that you can do absent mindedly; i.e. I used to roll a coin over my knuckles. I have quit a couple of times now but started again with stress. Not for long though! "

For me it's not the absent minded things, it's the big things like my whole social life and hobby. What else do I do, if I do something else and it returns what happens - I'm confused!!

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"We gave up smoking about 28 years ago and I still occasionally crave a cigarette and dream that I'm smoking. For me it was the whole ritual of pausing, leaning back after a meal or a period of intense concentration for instance and inhaling, feeling that hit of tobacco then exhaling and relaxing.

Giving up oddly enough was easy, I listened to an Alan Carr (I think that was his name) tape and it seemed to put me in a mind set where I no longer wanted to smoke. I've smoked one cigarette since about 27 years ago "

Well done on giving up

I read Alan Carr for giving up alcohol. I was allergic to it but loved a little drink, it just didn't like me in return.

And what you miss are the things that smoking meant to you. Hmmm need to ponder this one x

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"lollipops "

Think sucking on lollipops might not help in this situation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For the most part its replacement therapy.

I swapped to ecig after failing straight quitting.

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

Thanks for all the responses guys, very helpful please keep them coming xx

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By *ikki ShooterTV/TS
over a year ago

Epsom


"I don't smoke and never have but hoping some of you smokers and those who have or tried to give it up can help me as I'm trying to learn from giving up smoking with something else.

As well as the physical craving and need to smoke, what else is part of the habit eg the hands being busy, the social side...trying to think of how it is when you're smoking and what you miss or struggle with/replace when giving it up...all answers appreciated lovely fabbers "

I gave up years ago, but then I had only been smoking for few years when I quit. Colleagues of mine have switched to vapeing and find they can control the amount of nicotine they receive. One thing I did which they have adopted is a money jar. Each time I would buy fags I'd stick the money in the jar and hit the gum. Back then it still soon mounted up. But with the price of 20 now days you'd soon pay for a holiday, new tattoo ect.

Just a thought

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly

As a single girl swinging is very cheap and as a career girl even costing more is not leverage to give up. Now if I'd had to pay for each person I fucked...

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By *lwaysup4it69Couple
over a year ago

Kirkby in Ashfield


"As a single girl swinging is very cheap and as a career girl even costing more is not leverage to give up. Now if I'd had to pay for each person I fucked... "

Would u have spent a fair bit of money then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i stopped 3 times but the cravings drove me mad, mood swings drove me to smoke again? madness with it madness without!

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"As a single girl swinging is very cheap and as a career girl even costing more is not leverage to give up. Now if I'd had to pay for each person I fucked...

Would u have spent a fair bit of money then "

I'd be homeless and bankrupt - but a stupid smile on my face

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"i stopped 3 times but the cravings drove me mad, mood swings drove me to smoke again? madness with it madness without! "

Yep madness just about covers it!! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a single girl swinging is very cheap and as a career girl even costing more is not leverage to give up. Now if I'd had to pay for each person I fucked... "

Haha, with cigs if you are forced not to have them (due to not having any money) you tend to beg off mates or even look for dockers (other peoples finished with cig ends to make roll ups out of and yes they taste like shit, as do cigs really, but you have a need that wants fulfilling so you seek to fulfil that). All addictions mean people will tend to do things they wouldn't normally do and that are disgusting because they have a need and their aim is to fulfil that in whatever way they can.

Psychologically, all addictions are fulfilling you in some way and/or comforting you.

For me i enjoy putting something to my lips and sucking it, not lighting a cig and pretending to smoke will fulfil my need. I do enjoy using my mouth a lot, for talking, kissing, and other things. I'm guessing i get a lot of pleasure from using my mouth and so do many others because they tend to eat more once they stop smoking, so are using their mouth again for something to do just in a different way.

Your brain and body is also wired to enjoy doing things that are vital for your survival. When you need something your brain lets you know about it, it says 'hey do this or else you'll not be able to function', so if hungry your stomach rumbles to alert you and you can't concentrate on what you're doing because your body is telling you go eat or you won't have the energy to keep this body alive at some point. You won't get any pleasure yet, but as soon as you go do what your body is telling you to do that is when you get a reward, your brain releases dopamine, your brain likes dopamine and you will feel good. Dopamine is thought to be the reason why people become addicted to things because it is released every time you do something you enjoy to encourage you to do it again for the pleasurable feeling it gives you. Dopamine is released every time you eat, you fuck, you exercise, or anything else you have to do to survive.

In the case with drugs dopamine release will happen because of the chemical make up of something you're using. Drugs either make your brain release more dopamine or block it from draining out of your brain, this is why you get a 'buzz' from taking drugs. Basically drugs make your brain function differently than it's supposed to, and people get something from that.

It is thought people who become addicted to things are craving dopamine, possibly because their brain has got used to having higher amounts of dopamine for longer amounts of time than usual (because of the block/drain mentioned above), or because they don't get dopamine from other things. There are all kinds of reasons why they don't get dopamine from daily life so it's complicated when it comes to the 2nd point as people are individuals and life does force people to do things unfulfilling to themselves, or their past (or present) might have caused them to be left unhappy and needing something to produce more dopamine to counter that, but you can control what you can do so might take up smoking or become addicted to sex or drugs or anything really.

So basically your body is designed to seek out things for your survival, you have instincts that tell you what those survival things are but if you can't fulfil those then you can seek out other things to get the same rewards your body would give you for maintaining your survival. Philosophically there is so much more to this but i've gone on enough i think?

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By *lwaysup4it69Couple
over a year ago

Kirkby in Ashfield


"As a single girl swinging is very cheap and as a career girl even costing more is not leverage to give up. Now if I'd had to pay for each person I fucked...

Would u have spent a fair bit of money then

I'd be homeless and bankrupt - but a stupid smile on my face "

Wevu have an amazing looking body so only right to use it to its full potential lol

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By *rank EinsteinMan
over a year ago

Burton upon stather

Anyone tried the tablet?

An online friend of mine did and essentially gave up overnight.

It basically makes smoking unbearable, you feel physically sick if you try to smoke.

Think it's only available from Gp though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i stopped 3 times but the cravings drove me mad, mood swings drove me to smoke again? madness with it madness without!

Yep madness just about covers it!! X"

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By *ecretlyASoftie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Hull but travel regularly


"Philosophically there is so much more to this but i've gone on enough i think?"

Not at all, I found it fascinating and very helpful thank you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think comparing sex addiction to a substance abuse addiction like smoking is possibly a mistake. You might be better looking at compulsive eating as this is similarly an addiction to pleasure.

Given the length of time your addiction has been in place I also think more complicated neurological mechanism than just a dopamine reinforcement cycle may be in play by now.

I think a big issue for you might be what are called secondary gains, the hidden rewards of your behavior, that block a "logical" decision to stop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i gave up smoking years ago when my daughter was born, went cold turkey, it was ok lol been chewing wrigleys extra ever since,,, thats why they still in business lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Philosophically there is so much more to this but i've gone on enough i think?

Not at all, I found it fascinating and very helpful thank you! "

You're welcome. Once i fully understand molecular biology i'll be able to explain in better detail.

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