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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It's easy on this site to get a hang-up about timewasters, people just deleting messages, pics not painting the true picture, dishonesty, rudeness etc etc - that has all been and will continue to be discussed in other threads. This thread is not intended to be about those things, it is certainly NOT a rant, it's a LIGHTHEARTED look at some of the character traits of the women you DO ACTUALLY meet and in most cases have good sex with. It’s based on some of my personal experiences in and out of this scene and I for one would not change the variety. It is definitely not an attack or criticism on anyone, so please read it with your sense of humour hat on - besides no other guy had the guts to write it........

Miss Attention Seeker, can be a bit of a show off and usually competitive - an extrovert, she often has a big friends list and may have uploaded more than the average number of pictures on her profile, she always makes an effort but you often get the feeling it is as much to compete with other women (not for bi tendencies) as it is to impress her date. If you’re playing together in a club her orgasms are the loudest, longest, and most frequent in the room sometimes leading you to question their authenticity. Only happy with constant reassurance. She's the first to text her mates to tell them how amazing it was, and suggest you go online to write the verification before you leave! Likes exhibitionism, if there's an outfit out there; she's had it and moved on. If she's had one the boob job was sooo important to her, it’s wise for you to compliment them. She can sometimes be hard work! But she will want to leave a good impression, the sex, especially on her own, is good. Discretion is not always as important a factor to her as it may be to you.

Miss Prima Doña - has allowed the distorted 'reality' of cyberspace initiated sex/relationships to alter her personality. Thinks she's very special because the laws of supply and demand have made her sought after. In reality she often is not as attractive as many of her peers and the character trait sadly sometimes comes with a side order of rudeness, she hasn't fully realised that in life 'nice usually attracts nice' - in fact she'd possibly struggle in a few bars, but hey, Fab is her real world. (She can come across as being on a 'power trip'). The first to complain about the horrible participants on this site especially the single men (sometimes you wonder if she’s genuine, or part of a couple). When she needs a meet, she'll send a wink, a friend invite or a one liner and expect you to jump at the chance. Doesn't have as much 'success' as you may expect and continually complains about timewasters. Unfortunately you end up questioning her maturity. If you can be bothered, she is a challenge, once tasted you rarely go back, because sadly the mentality can carry itself into the bedroom.

Miss late bloomer - always been too insecure as a younger women to be happy in her skin or dress to impress or experiment with sex. That all changed usually due to a combination of - realising there must be more to life or being encouraged by a liberated friend, or a chance episode with a bloody good lover - released the inner her. She is rarely rude, often considerate, loves the attention and manages never to take it for granted. As long as things happen at her pace, the experience is usually a good one. She's very similar to Miss 'Missed Out in the Past' who married young, very few sexual partners (if any other than husband before the scene) and a long marriage, then found herself traded in or abandoned in mid life (or she'd just had enough of him). Her bitterness towards men is usually limited to just him (he convinced her she wasn't attractive or special), besides the last thing she wants is another husband! She and Miss late bloomer have much in common. Not usually looking for 'mechanical sex', that's a good thing. I have met some 'single' women who are still in their long term marriage, but have come to an agreement with their husband. They don't play together and she is single as far as the scene is concerned, definitely not cheating. In my experience she often falls into this category.

Miss 'Delusion of Grandeur' - believes without doubt that she is more desirable than other women (which she isn't), to the extent of regularly bad mouthing them usually behind their back. (Look what she's wearing, look at the size of her, what's he doing with her, he must be desperate, put them away, that's way too tight for her etc etc). This is such an ugly trait to most men but seems completely acceptable to some women. Every time she does it, it results in you judging her. She understands the scene but deep down believes you should only really want her. Try’s to make herself look good by pulling others down.

The last straw is when you’re at a group meet, want to play with someone else and she 'badmouths' them. Often complains about getting loads of messages - you can't help thinking that her ego would be lost without them.

Miss Facebooker - friends’ friends and more friends, msn is a fixture and she's great at keeping in touch, flirty, great cyber company but few if any verifications, popularity is important, often tells you she gets loads of messages. Never rude, you get on with her, but so does everyone else - never seem to get round to having sex though! You'll find her in the chatroooms and forums most days.

Miss 'Used to swing with my husband now separated/now single swinger' - used to swing with her husband or long term man who originally talked her into it (the break up was not nice in this case). She can't stop telling you how happy she is to be free of him she........(actually, I'm not going to go here, really don't want to alienate any couples - suffice to say, it's really surprises you her take on things, and I've met a few women like this).

Miss 'Green eyed monster' - i'm liberated, but not that liberated, if you’re with me I want a degree of exclusivity she wants the added fun variety brings but......do as I say, not as I do. The sex 'one on one' is usually great and she can be insatiable, may be keen on you bringing male friends. Simply doesn't like to see 'her man' enjoying another women (not in a truly sensuous way).

Miss Guilt - She's not cheating, she's not even in a relationship. She just feels guilty in herself for being on this type of site 'has always felt a little dirty after casual sex'. She really enjoys it wants the variety and excitement, but struggles with her belief that it's 'wrong' in some way or that she might be judged. 'Dutch courage' is often a factor. Doesn't show her friends list or the verifications, would hate you to think she's having loads of sex on here! Face pictures are out of the question. Feels much better in herself if you turn it into a boyfriend experience - but then you run the risk of........

Miss Cling - semi liberated - the same as Sausage Jockey's Mr Cling but in female form. The connection, chemistry and sex is great and you know you've enjoyed each others company but then the level of texts and emails become an issue and if the subject of your meets with others ever comes up it's met with frostiness......(If you haven't already make sure you read Sausage Jockey's post).

Miss 'Greek Goddess' - Physically attractive and knows it. Lies back during sex and lets you do all the work, if your really lucky very short bj (which is not usually the best quality). Walks slowly from bed to the bathroom on her tip toes (not because the floor is cold). She is used to getting lots of attention, outside of the site so on the site is no different, can't understand why in her eyes less attractive women especially bbw's get attention on here though, it eats at her a little and can effect her enjoyment. Constantly wants reassurance while your pleasuring her - surprisingly insecure, she's always checking her mirror. She's like seeing the nicest best wrapped present under the Xmas tree with your name on it, the day comes you open it up....but you’re a little disappointed, it wasn't what you were expecting. When you do have a meaningful discussion she confides that she's often struggled to hold down long term relationships.

Miss Self Conscious - just not happy in her skin, constantly criticizes herself. I'm too fat, I'm too thin, I’m too pale need a tan, my breasts are too small, too big, I wish I had a smaller arse, bigger arse arrrrghhh! It's relentless, you end up countering each criticism with a compliment, but you can only compliment so many times without it seeming insincere and then you get the dreaded 'your just saying that' or 'I bet you say that to all the girls'. You wonder when she's going to realise that if you didn't like her you wouldn't be there! If you can relax her enough during sex to make sure she is fully satisfied and you make sure she is in NO doubt of your complete satisfaction you may be lucky enough to see a less self conscious side of her, it's usually worth the effort.

Mrs Menopause - she's randy as hell and the sex is great, but doesn't know where her head is from one moment to the next, how are you supposed to know! Don't cross her because her moods can swing - or maybe I'm mixing up the menopause with something else!

Miss 'confident' at ease in her own skin and can be very liberated. Never overconfident, her confidence has developed and honed itself on the back of life experiences. She knows she's not perfect but is past being overly self conscious. She understands that life and all it's interactions are a mosaic of imperfections and just because she isn't some advertising man or film directors vision of beauty it's not going to stop her knowing she's all the women the next man is going to be able to handle. Having said that, she's not ignorant of her 'less desirable' features, she is certainly not Miss Delusion of Granjuer, she instead maximises her positives, always makes an effort, doesn't dwell or allow any perceived weaknesses to dominate her. It shapes her character, rarely rude or judgemental she finds insincerity or dishonesty intolerable. Kissed a few frogs in her day, the odd ones becoming Princes, but also kissed the odd Prince some of who turned out to be frogs in disguise! - So she try’s to keep an open mind. Sexually liberated, she knows what she wants, but often loves a surprise.

As a result she ends up beings very attractive to most men. (Marilyn Monroe was a size 16, alcoholic, drug addict - it is alleged - she was by no means perfect, but try telling half the men of her generation that!)

Phew! That was a read!

There's a few more character traits, I can think of at least 3or4, maybe some of you will add to these. I would like to STRESS that the huge majority of my meets and experiences within the swinging scene have been fantastic or I wouldn't be here. I have met some amazing women.

Generalisation can be disrespectful of individuality. I know this is full of generalisation and it is not my intention to disrespect anyone. Besides few fit fully into one category! It's just a bit of fun.......

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Outstanding xx

I can see some of myself in some of those

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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago

London

Did you really say..

Less attractive, especially bbws

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having read your post.

Bored as I was, waiting to get to the end!

You fit in where?

Paddy xxx


"It's easy on this site to get a hang-up about timewasters, people just deleting messages, pics not painting the true picture, dishonesty, rudeness etc etc - that has all been and will continue to be discussed in other threads. This thread is not intended to be about those things, it is certainly NOT a rant, it's a LIGHTHEARTED look at some of the character traits of the women you DO ACTUALLY meet and in most cases have good sex with. It’s based on some of my personal experiences in and out of this scene and I for one would not change the variety. It is definitely not an attack or criticism on anyone, so please read it with your sense of humour hat on - besides no other guy had the guts to write it........

Miss Attention Seeker, can be a bit of a show off and usually competitive - an extrovert, she often has a big friends list and may have uploaded more than the average number of pictures on her profile, she always makes an effort but you often get the feeling it is as much to compete with other women (not for bi tendencies) as it is to impress her date. If you’re playing together in a club her orgasms are the loudest, longest, and most frequent in the room sometimes leading you to question their authenticity. Only happy with constant reassurance. She's the first to text her mates to tell them how amazing it was, and suggest you go online to write the verification before you leave! Likes exhibitionism, if there's an outfit out there; she's had it and moved on. If she's had one the boob job was sooo important to her, it’s wise for you to compliment them. She can sometimes be hard work! But she will want to leave a good impression, the sex, especially on her own, is good. Discretion is not always as important a factor to her as it may be to you.

Miss Prima Doña - has allowed the distorted 'reality' of cyberspace initiated sex/relationships to alter her personality. Thinks she's very special because the laws of supply and demand have made her sought after. In reality she often is not as attractive as many of her peers and the character trait sadly sometimes comes with a side order of rudeness, she hasn't fully realised that in life 'nice usually attracts nice' - in fact she'd possibly struggle in a few bars, but hey, Fab is her real world. (She can come across as being on a 'power trip'). The first to complain about the horrible participants on this site especially the single men (sometimes you wonder if she’s genuine, or part of a couple). When she needs a meet, she'll send a wink, a friend invite or a one liner and expect you to jump at the chance. Doesn't have as much 'success' as you may expect and continually complains about timewasters. Unfortunately you end up questioning her maturity. If you can be bothered, she is a challenge, once tasted you rarely go back, because sadly the mentality can carry itself into the bedroom.

Miss late bloomer - always been too insecure as a younger women to be happy in her skin or dress to impress or experiment with sex. That all changed usually due to a combination of - realising there must be more to life or being encouraged by a liberated friend, or a chance episode with a bloody good lover - released the inner her. She is rarely rude, often considerate, loves the attention and manages never to take it for granted. As long as things happen at her pace, the experience is usually a good one. She's very similar to Miss 'Missed Out in the Past' who married young, very few sexual partners (if any other than husband before the scene) and a long marriage, then found herself traded in or abandoned in mid life (or she'd just had enough of him). Her bitterness towards men is usually limited to just him (he convinced her she wasn't attractive or special), besides the last thing she wants is another husband! She and Miss late bloomer have much in common. Not usually looking for 'mechanical sex', that's a good thing. I have met some 'single' women who are still in their long term marriage, but have come to an agreement with their husband. They don't play together and she is single as far as the scene is concerned, definitely not cheating. In my experience she often falls into this category.

Miss 'Delusion of Grandeur' - believes without doubt that she is more desirable than other women (which she isn't), to the extent of regularly bad mouthing them usually behind their back. (Look what she's wearing, look at the size of her, what's he doing with her, he must be desperate, put them away, that's way too tight for her etc etc). This is such an ugly trait to most men but seems completely acceptable to some women. Every time she does it, it results in you judging her. She understands the scene but deep down believes you should only really want her. Try’s to make herself look good by pulling others down.

The last straw is when you’re at a group meet, want to play with someone else and she 'badmouths' them. Often complains about getting loads of messages - you can't help thinking that her ego would be lost without them.

Miss Facebooker - friends’ friends and more friends, msn is a fixture and she's great at keeping in touch, flirty, great cyber company but few if any verifications, popularity is important, often tells you she gets loads of messages. Never rude, you get on with her, but so does everyone else - never seem to get round to having sex though! You'll find her in the chatroooms and forums most days.

Miss 'Used to swing with my husband now separated/now single swinger' - used to swing with her husband or long term man who originally talked her into it (the break up was not nice in this case). She can't stop telling you how happy she is to be free of him she........(actually, I'm not going to go here, really don't want to alienate any couples - suffice to say, it's really surprises you her take on things, and I've met a few women like this).

Miss 'Green eyed monster' - i'm liberated, but not that liberated, if you’re with me I want a degree of exclusivity she wants the added fun variety brings but......do as I say, not as I do. The sex 'one on one' is usually great and she can be insatiable, may be keen on you bringing male friends. Simply doesn't like to see 'her man' enjoying another women (not in a truly sensuous way).

Miss Guilt - She's not cheating, she's not even in a relationship. She just feels guilty in herself for being on this type of site 'has always felt a little dirty after casual sex'. She really enjoys it wants the variety and excitement, but struggles with her belief that it's 'wrong' in some way or that she might be judged. 'Dutch courage' is often a factor. Doesn't show her friends list or the verifications, would hate you to think she's having loads of sex on here! Face pictures are out of the question. Feels much better in herself if you turn it into a boyfriend experience - but then you run the risk of........

Miss Cling - semi liberated - the same as Sausage Jockey's Mr Cling but in female form. The connection, chemistry and sex is great and you know you've enjoyed each others company but then the level of texts and emails become an issue and if the subject of your meets with others ever comes up it's met with frostiness......(If you haven't already make sure you read Sausage Jockey's post).

Miss 'Greek Goddess' - Physically attractive and knows it. Lies back during sex and lets you do all the work, if your really lucky very short bj (which is not usually the best quality). Walks slowly from bed to the bathroom on her tip toes (not because the floor is cold). She is used to getting lots of attention, outside of the site so on the site is no different, can't understand why in her eyes less attractive women especially bbw's get attention on here though, it eats at her a little and can effect her enjoyment. Constantly wants reassurance while your pleasuring her - surprisingly insecure, she's always checking her mirror. She's like seeing the nicest best wrapped present under the Xmas tree with your name on it, the day comes you open it up....but you’re a little disappointed, it wasn't what you were expecting. When you do have a meaningful discussion she confides that she's often struggled to hold down long term relationships.

Miss Self Conscious - just not happy in her skin, constantly criticizes herself. I'm too fat, I'm too thin, I’m too pale need a tan, my breasts are too small, too big, I wish I had a smaller arse, bigger arse arrrrghhh! It's relentless, you end up countering each criticism with a compliment, but you can only compliment so many times without it seeming insincere and then you get the dreaded 'your just saying that' or 'I bet you say that to all the girls'. You wonder when she's going to realise that if you didn't like her you wouldn't be there! If you can relax her enough during sex to make sure she is fully satisfied and you make sure she is in NO doubt of your complete satisfaction you may be lucky enough to see a less self conscious side of her, it's usually worth the effort.

Mrs Menopause - she's randy as hell and the sex is great, but doesn't know where her head is from one moment to the next, how are you supposed to know! Don't cross her because her moods can swing - or maybe I'm mixing up the menopause with something else!

Miss 'confident' at ease in her own skin and can be very liberated. Never overconfident, her confidence has developed and honed itself on the back of life experiences. She knows she's not perfect but is past being overly self conscious. She understands that life and all it's interactions are a mosaic of imperfections and just because she isn't some advertising man or film directors vision of beauty it's not going to stop her knowing she's all the women the next man is going to be able to handle. Having said that, she's not ignorant of her 'less desirable' features, she is certainly not Miss Delusion of Granjuer, she instead maximises her positives, always makes an effort, doesn't dwell or allow any perceived weaknesses to dominate her. It shapes her character, rarely rude or judgemental she finds insincerity or dishonesty intolerable. Kissed a few frogs in her day, the odd ones becoming Princes, but also kissed the odd Prince some of who turned out to be frogs in disguise! - So she try’s to keep an open mind. Sexually liberated, she knows what she wants, but often loves a surprise.

As a result she ends up beings very attractive to most men. (Marilyn Monroe was a size 16, alcoholic, drug addict - it is alleged - she was by no means perfect, but try telling half the men of her generation that!)

Phew! That was a read!

There's a few more character traits, I can think of at least 3or4, maybe some of you will add to these. I would like to STRESS that the huge majority of my meets and experiences within the swinging scene have been fantastic or I wouldn't be here. I have met some amazing women.

Generalisation can be disrespectful of individuality. I know this is full of generalisation and it is not my intention to disrespect anyone. Besides few fit fully into one category! It's just a bit of fun.......

"

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Theres a few posters in here that bore the tits off of me

Im far too polite to say who they are though but im sure you have an idea Paddy

I would normally just ignore them though as being negative about a thread that people have in fact been waiting for in response to another one would be pointless and make me look spiteful xxx

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over a year ago


"It's easy on this site to get a hang-up about timewasters, people just deleting messages, pics not painting the true picture, dishonesty, rudeness etc etc - that has all been and will continue to be discussed in other threads. This thread is not intended to be about those things, it is certainly NOT a rant, it's a LIGHTHEARTED look at some of the character traits of the women you DO ACTUALLY meet and in most cases have good sex with. It’s based on some of my personal experiences in and out of this scene and I for one would not change the variety. It is definitely not an attack or criticism on anyone, so please read it with your sense of humour hat on - besides no other guy had the guts to write it........

Miss Attention Seeker, can be a bit of a show off and usually competitive - an extrovert, she often has a big friends list and may have uploaded more than the average number of pictures on her profile, she always makes an effort but you often get the feeling it is as much to compete with other women (not for bi tendencies) as it is to impress her date. If you’re playing together in a club her orgasms are the loudest, longest, and most frequent in the room sometimes leading you to question their authenticity. Only happy with constant reassurance. She's the first to text her mates to tell them how amazing it was, and suggest you go online to write the verification before you leave! Likes exhibitionism, if there's an outfit out there; she's had it and moved on. If she's had one the boob job was sooo important to her, it’s wise for you to compliment them. She can sometimes be hard work! But she will want to leave a good impression, the sex, especially on her own, is good. Discretion is not always as important a factor to her as it may be to you.

Miss Prima Doña - has allowed the distorted 'reality' of cyberspace initiated sex/relationships to alter her personality. Thinks she's very special because the laws of supply and demand have made her sought after. In reality she often is not as attractive as many of her peers and the character trait sadly sometimes comes with a side order of rudeness, she hasn't fully realised that in life 'nice usually attracts nice' - in fact she'd possibly struggle in a few bars, but hey, Fab is her real world. (She can come across as being on a 'power trip'). The first to complain about the horrible participants on this site especially the single men (sometimes you wonder if she’s genuine, or part of a couple). When she needs a meet, she'll send a wink, a friend invite or a one liner and expect you to jump at the chance. Doesn't have as much 'success' as you may expect and continually complains about timewasters. Unfortunately you end up questioning her maturity. If you can be bothered, she is a challenge, once tasted you rarely go back, because sadly the mentality can carry itself into the bedroom.

Miss late bloomer - always been too insecure as a younger women to be happy in her skin or dress to impress or experiment with sex. That all changed usually due to a combination of - realising there must be more to life or being encouraged by a liberated friend, or a chance episode with a bloody good lover - released the inner her. She is rarely rude, often considerate, loves the attention and manages never to take it for granted. As long as things happen at her pace, the experience is usually a good one. She's very similar to Miss 'Missed Out in the Past' who married young, very few sexual partners (if any other than husband before the scene) and a long marriage, then found herself traded in or abandoned in mid life (or she'd just had enough of him). Her bitterness towards men is usually limited to just him (he convinced her she wasn't attractive or special), besides the last thing she wants is another husband! She and Miss late bloomer have much in common. Not usually looking for 'mechanical sex', that's a good thing. I have met some 'single' women who are still in their long term marriage, but have come to an agreement with their husband. They don't play together and she is single as far as the scene is concerned, definitely not cheating. In my experience she often falls into this category.

Miss 'Delusion of Grandeur' - believes without doubt that she is more desirable than other women (which she isn't), to the extent of regularly bad mouthing them usually behind their back. (Look what she's wearing, look at the size of her, what's he doing with her, he must be desperate, put them away, that's way too tight for her etc etc). This is such an ugly trait to most men but seems completely acceptable to some women. Every time she does it, it results in you judging her. She understands the scene but deep down believes you should only really want her. Try’s to make herself look good by pulling others down.

The last straw is when you’re at a group meet, want to play with someone else and she 'badmouths' them. Often complains about getting loads of messages - you can't help thinking that her ego would be lost without them.

Miss Facebooker - friends’ friends and more friends, msn is a fixture and she's great at keeping in touch, flirty, great cyber company but few if any verifications, popularity is important, often tells you she gets loads of messages. Never rude, you get on with her, but so does everyone else - never seem to get round to having sex though! You'll find her in the chatroooms and forums most days.

Miss 'Used to swing with my husband now separated/now single swinger' - used to swing with her husband or long term man who originally talked her into it (the break up was not nice in this case). She can't stop telling you how happy she is to be free of him she........(actually, I'm not going to go here, really don't want to alienate any couples - suffice to say, it's really surprises you her take on things, and I've met a few women like this).

Miss 'Green eyed monster' - i'm liberated, but not that liberated, if you’re with me I want a degree of exclusivity she wants the added fun variety brings but......do as I say, not as I do. The sex 'one on one' is usually great and she can be insatiable, may be keen on you bringing male friends. Simply doesn't like to see 'her man' enjoying another women (not in a truly sensuous way).

Miss Guilt - She's not cheating, she's not even in a relationship. She just feels guilty in herself for being on this type of site 'has always felt a little dirty after casual sex'. She really enjoys it wants the variety and excitement, but struggles with her belief that it's 'wrong' in some way or that she might be judged. 'Dutch courage' is often a factor. Doesn't show her friends list or the verifications, would hate you to think she's having loads of sex on here! Face pictures are out of the question. Feels much better in herself if you turn it into a boyfriend experience - but then you run the risk of........

Miss Cling - semi liberated - the same as Sausage Jockey's Mr Cling but in female form. The connection, chemistry and sex is great and you know you've enjoyed each others company but then the level of texts and emails become an issue and if the subject of your meets with others ever comes up it's met with frostiness......(If you haven't already make sure you read Sausage Jockey's post).

Miss 'Greek Goddess' - Physically attractive and knows it. Lies back during sex and lets you do all the work, if your really lucky very short bj (which is not usually the best quality). Walks slowly from bed to the bathroom on her tip toes (not because the floor is cold). She is used to getting lots of attention, outside of the site so on the site is no different, can't understand why in her eyes less attractive women especially bbw's get attention on here though, it eats at her a little and can effect her enjoyment. Constantly wants reassurance while your pleasuring her - surprisingly insecure, she's always checking her mirror. She's like seeing the nicest best wrapped present under the Xmas tree with your name on it, the day comes you open it up....but you’re a little disappointed, it wasn't what you were expecting. When you do have a meaningful discussion she confides that she's often struggled to hold down long term relationships.

Miss Self Conscious - just not happy in her skin, constantly criticizes herself. I'm too fat, I'm too thin, I’m too pale need a tan, my breasts are too small, too big, I wish I had a smaller arse, bigger arse arrrrghhh! It's relentless, you end up countering each criticism with a compliment, but you can only compliment so many times without it seeming insincere and then you get the dreaded 'your just saying that' or 'I bet you say that to all the girls'. You wonder when she's going to realise that if you didn't like her you wouldn't be there! If you can relax her enough during sex to make sure she is fully satisfied and you make sure she is in NO doubt of your complete satisfaction you may be lucky enough to see a less self conscious side of her, it's usually worth the effort.

Mrs Menopause - she's randy as hell and the sex is great, but doesn't know where her head is from one moment to the next, how are you supposed to know! Don't cross her because her moods can swing - or maybe I'm mixing up the menopause with something else!

Miss 'confident' at ease in her own skin and can be very liberated. Never overconfident, her confidence has developed and honed itself on the back of life experiences. She knows she's not perfect but is past being overly self conscious. She understands that life and all it's interactions are a mosaic of imperfections and just because she isn't some advertising man or film directors vision of beauty it's not going to stop her knowing she's all the women the next man is going to be able to handle. Having said that, she's not ignorant of her 'less desirable' features, she is certainly not Miss Delusion of Granjuer, she instead maximises her positives, always makes an effort, doesn't dwell or allow any perceived weaknesses to dominate her. It shapes her character, rarely rude or judgemental she finds insincerity or dishonesty intolerable. Kissed a few frogs in her day, the odd ones becoming Princes, but also kissed the odd Prince some of who turned out to be frogs in disguise! - So she try’s to keep an open mind. Sexually liberated, she knows what she wants, but often loves a surprise.

As a result she ends up beings very attractive to most men. (Marilyn Monroe was a size 16, alcoholic, drug addict - it is alleged - she was by no means perfect, but try telling half the men of her generation that!)

Phew! That was a read!

There's a few more character traits, I can think of at least 3or4, maybe some of you will add to these. I would like to STRESS that the huge majority of my meets and experiences within the swinging scene have been fantastic or I wouldn't be here. I have met some amazing women.

Generalisation can be disrespectful of individuality. I know this is full of generalisation and it is not my intention to disrespect anyone. Besides few fit fully into one category! It's just a bit of fun.......

"

Hells Teeth! All that and you've only been on this site for seven weeks! You must have been a VERY busy man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A very interesting read and I too can see a bit of myself in a few of those descriptions!! well done sir xx

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By *reakchicCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

haha! brillant! not quite sure if im one of them :/

i hope not...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think every female who reads this will see themselves in their somewhere!! me included!! x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Theres a few posters in here that bore the tits off of me

Im far too polite to say who they are though but im sure you have an idea Paddy

I would normally just ignore them though as being negative about a thread that people have in fact been waiting for in response to another one would be pointless and make me look spiteful xxx"

Said it for me

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Brilliant lol, saw myself in two of them

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

Saw bits of me in different ones too lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you really say..

Less attractive, especially bbws

"

Think the guy was referring to the way the particular type of woman thinks about others and in particular bbw's, and has obviously had experience of meeting that kind of individual. I don't think he was expressing his own opinion.

I really enjoyed reading that, I can certainly identify with certain types from that that I've met in the last year or so...nice work fella!

Just waiting for a woman to reply about single guys now!

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By *ummy mummyWoman
over a year ago

southampton-ish


"Did you really say..

Less attractive, especially bbws

Think the guy was referring to the way the particular type of woman thinks about others and in particular bbw's, and has obviously had experience of meeting that kind of individual. I don't think he was expressing his own opinion.

I really enjoyed reading that, I can certainly identify with certain types from that that I've met in the last year or so...nice work fella!

Just waiting for a woman to reply about single guys now!

"

that is what spurred this thread as a woman already did one about men...

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By *iamondladyWoman
over a year ago

titsville

Brilliant really enjoyed Reading this thread and have been waiting for it! Thinking when I meet the OP for full diagnosis! Lol... Can see myself in Miss Confident and in abit in another. Well done it's a good laugh!

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By *ishful.thinkingWoman
over a year ago

east london

This has just made me smile so "thanks" i realy needed it about now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely brilliant!!! I can see myself in about 2-3 of these characteristics - been laughing my head off at this!!! Fan-bloody-tastic. Thank you blackspice - you're spot on yet again x

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By *andy muncherMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

my i say lets see if a fem on here can put up a post about us guys that would be fun i wonder box i would fit in go for it girls very good post here
"It's easy on this site to get a hang-up about timewasters, people just deleting messages, pics not painting the true picture, dishonesty, rudeness etc etc - that has all been and will continue to be discussed in other threads. This thread is not intended to be about those things, it is certainly NOT a rant, it's a LIGHTHEARTED look at some of the character traits of the women you DO ACTUALLY meet and in most cases have good sex with. It’s based on some of my personal experiences in and out of this scene and I for one would not change the variety. It is definitely not an attack or criticism on anyone, so please read it with your sense of humour hat on - besides no other guy had the guts to write it........

Miss Attention Seeker, can be a bit of a show off and usually competitive - an extrovert, she often has a big friends list and may have uploaded more than the average number of pictures on her profile, she always makes an effort but you often get the feeling it is as much to compete with other women (not for bi tendencies) as it is to impress her date. If you’re playing together in a club her orgasms are the loudest, longest, and most frequent in the room sometimes leading you to question their authenticity. Only happy with constant reassurance. She's the first to text her mates to tell them how amazing it was, and suggest you go online to write the verification before you leave! Likes exhibitionism, if there's an outfit out there; she's had it and moved on. If she's had one the boob job was sooo important to her, it’s wise for you to compliment them. She can sometimes be hard work! But she will want to leave a good impression, the sex, especially on her own, is good. Discretion is not always as important a factor to her as it may be to you.

Miss Prima Doña - has allowed the distorted 'reality' of cyberspace initiated sex/relationships to alter her personality. Thinks she's very special because the laws of supply and demand have made her sought after. In reality she often is not as attractive as many of her peers and the character trait sadly sometimes comes with a side order of rudeness, she hasn't fully realised that in life 'nice usually attracts nice' - in fact she'd possibly struggle in a few bars, but hey, Fab is her real world. (She can come across as being on a 'power trip'). The first to complain about the horrible participants on this site especially the single men (sometimes you wonder if she’s genuine, or part of a couple). When she needs a meet, she'll send a wink, a friend invite or a one liner and expect you to jump at the chance. Doesn't have as much 'success' as you may expect and continually complains about timewasters. Unfortunately you end up questioning her maturity. If you can be bothered, she is a challenge, once tasted you rarely go back, because sadly the mentality can carry itself into the bedroom.

Miss late bloomer - always been too insecure as a younger women to be happy in her skin or dress to impress or experiment with sex. That all changed usually due to a combination of - realising there must be more to life or being encouraged by a liberated friend, or a chance episode with a bloody good lover - released the inner her. She is rarely rude, often considerate, loves the attention and manages never to take it for granted. As long as things happen at her pace, the experience is usually a good one. She's very similar to Miss 'Missed Out in the Past' who married young, very few sexual partners (if any other than husband before the scene) and a long marriage, then found herself traded in or abandoned in mid life (or she'd just had enough of him). Her bitterness towards men is usually limited to just him (he convinced her she wasn't attractive or special), besides the last thing she wants is another husband! She and Miss late bloomer have much in common. Not usually looking for 'mechanical sex', that's a good thing. I have met some 'single' women who are still in their long term marriage, but have come to an agreement with their husband. They don't play together and she is single as far as the scene is concerned, definitely not cheating. In my experience she often falls into this category.

Miss 'Delusion of Grandeur' - believes without doubt that she is more desirable than other women (which she isn't), to the extent of regularly bad mouthing them usually behind their back. (Look what she's wearing, look at the size of her, what's he doing with her, he must be desperate, put them away, that's way too tight for her etc etc). This is such an ugly trait to most men but seems completely acceptable to some women. Every time she does it, it results in you judging her. She understands the scene but deep down believes you should only really want her. Try’s to make herself look good by pulling others down.

The last straw is when you’re at a group meet, want to play with someone else and she 'badmouths' them. Often complains about getting loads of messages - you can't help thinking that her ego would be lost without them.

Miss Facebooker - friends’ friends and more friends, msn is a fixture and she's great at keeping in touch, flirty, great cyber company but few if any verifications, popularity is important, often tells you she gets loads of messages. Never rude, you get on with her, but so does everyone else - never seem to get round to having sex though! You'll find her in the chatroooms and forums most days.

Miss 'Used to swing with my husband now separated/now single swinger' - used to swing with her husband or long term man who originally talked her into it (the break up was not nice in this case). She can't stop telling you how happy she is to be free of him she........(actually, I'm not going to go here, really don't want to alienate any couples - suffice to say, it's really surprises you her take on things, and I've met a few women like this).

Miss 'Green eyed monster' - i'm liberated, but not that liberated, if you’re with me I want a degree of exclusivity she wants the added fun variety brings but......do as I say, not as I do. The sex 'one on one' is usually great and she can be insatiable, may be keen on you bringing male friends. Simply doesn't like to see 'her man' enjoying another women (not in a truly sensuous way).

Miss Guilt - She's not cheating, she's not even in a relationship. She just feels guilty in herself for being on this type of site 'has always felt a little dirty after casual sex'. She really enjoys it wants the variety and excitement, but struggles with her belief that it's 'wrong' in some way or that she might be judged. 'Dutch courage' is often a factor. Doesn't show her friends list or the verifications, would hate you to think she's having loads of sex on here! Face pictures are out of the question. Feels much better in herself if you turn it into a boyfriend experience - but then you run the risk of........

Miss Cling - semi liberated - the same as Sausage Jockey's Mr Cling but in female form. The connection, chemistry and sex is great and you know you've enjoyed each others company but then the level of texts and emails become an issue and if the subject of your meets with others ever comes up it's met with frostiness......(If you haven't already make sure you read Sausage Jockey's post).

Miss 'Greek Goddess' - Physically attractive and knows it. Lies back during sex and lets you do all the work, if your really lucky very short bj (which is not usually the best quality). Walks slowly from bed to the bathroom on her tip toes (not because the floor is cold). She is used to getting lots of attention, outside of the site so on the site is no different, can't understand why in her eyes less attractive women especially bbw's get attention on here though, it eats at her a little and can effect her enjoyment. Constantly wants reassurance while your pleasuring her - surprisingly insecure, she's always checking her mirror. She's like seeing the nicest best wrapped present under the Xmas tree with your name on it, the day comes you open it up....but you’re a little disappointed, it wasn't what you were expecting. When you do have a meaningful discussion she confides that she's often struggled to hold down long term relationships.

Miss Self Conscious - just not happy in her skin, constantly criticizes herself. I'm too fat, I'm too thin, I’m too pale need a tan, my breasts are too small, too big, I wish I had a smaller arse, bigger arse arrrrghhh! It's relentless, you end up countering each criticism with a compliment, but you can only compliment so many times without it seeming insincere and then you get the dreaded 'your just saying that' or 'I bet you say that to all the girls'. You wonder when she's going to realise that if you didn't like her you wouldn't be there! If you can relax her enough during sex to make sure she is fully satisfied and you make sure she is in NO doubt of your complete satisfaction you may be lucky enough to see a less self conscious side of her, it's usually worth the effort.

Mrs Menopause - she's randy as hell and the sex is great, but doesn't know where her head is from one moment to the next, how are you supposed to know! Don't cross her because her moods can swing - or maybe I'm mixing up the menopause with something else!

Miss 'confident' at ease in her own skin and can be very liberated. Never overconfident, her confidence has developed and honed itself on the back of life experiences. She knows she's not perfect but is past being overly self conscious. She understands that life and all it's interactions are a mosaic of imperfections and just because she isn't some advertising man or film directors vision of beauty it's not going to stop her knowing she's all the women the next man is going to be able to handle. Having said that, she's not ignorant of her 'less desirable' features, she is certainly not Miss Delusion of Granjuer, she instead maximises her positives, always makes an effort, doesn't dwell or allow any perceived weaknesses to dominate her. It shapes her character, rarely rude or judgemental she finds insincerity or dishonesty intolerable. Kissed a few frogs in her day, the odd ones becoming Princes, but also kissed the odd Prince some of who turned out to be frogs in disguise! - So she try’s to keep an open mind. Sexually liberated, she knows what she wants, but often loves a surprise.

As a result she ends up beings very attractive to most men. (Marilyn Monroe was a size 16, alcoholic, drug addict - it is alleged - she was by no means perfect, but try telling half the men of her generation that!)

Phew! That was a read!

There's a few more character traits, I can think of at least 3or4, maybe some of you will add to these. I would like to STRESS that the huge majority of my meets and experiences within the swinging scene have been fantastic or I wouldn't be here. I have met some amazing women.

Generalisation can be disrespectful of individuality. I know this is full of generalisation and it is not my intention to disrespect anyone. Besides few fit fully into one category! It's just a bit of fun.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely brilliant, ive chatted to a lady who definitely fits into the first two and Miss Delusions of Grandeur.

For me though, definitely Miss late bloomer, really enjoying myselfam also Miss Self Conscious, but so much better about myself especially after visiting Chams for the beach party, gave me so much confidence, a real boost to my self esteem, a little Miss Menopause (though period time too) but in name only as i didnt suffer much, have always been a bossy "say it how it is without thought" person so there's no change there

Absolutely superb post, well written

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Thank you all for your comments, im happy it brought a smile to some of you and a laugh to others. I hope someone has the confidence to write a couples one, that would be interesting....

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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago

London

Couples one.. Not a chance..most couples we have met there is always one who is the calming influence although,

Damn it i can't we still want to get laid but there is one fact that runs through a lot of couples meets.. And we have checked with others and they agree...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Top man. Spot on. Loved the prima doña one. So funny to see the most average of single fems givin it the large one when in real word ie, in town, they don't get a second look but think cause they get 100 emails a day they can be rude. Loved the thread

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Couples one.. Not a chance..most couples we have met there is always one who is the calming influence although,

Damn it i can't we still want to get laid but there is one fact that runs through a lot of couples meets.. And we have checked with others and they agree..."

That's why a couples one would be interesting because you have two sometimes very different characters making the whole so to speak, sometimes to harmonious effect, other times errrm......tricky!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Found it! This is the post I was referring to.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Thanks mr and mrs south

Its brilliant, and i actually fit into one box and somedays 2 lol

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn

another brill read xx

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall

Interesting bit of fun. Of course always difficult to pigeon hole people, as some women have said they see bits of themselves in different boxes. Have certainly met some women with some of the traits and heard second hand of them. Yes, of course can also identify with one or aspects myself sometimes too... mostly was left thinking what an interesting young man.... and we thought you werent paying attention! lol

I have discussed similar with single guys on here but really felt insulted on behalf of all women at their sceptical views stating that generally speaking goodlooking women dont try hard enough in bed, unattractive women try harder to make up for their looks etc. My main thought at the time was always that I didnt want to meet someone with such ignorant and sceptical views of people he doesnt know.

Good post though.

Mistress x

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By *ornyHorwichCpl aka HHCCouple
over a year ago

horwich

enjoyed this posts in all parts.

We all know there are gorgeous woman who do think they are gods gift as with the larger lady who does try harder. But then again have met the gorgeous woman who really doesn't know how sexy she is and very insecure and the larger lady who thinks she is all that and is a complete bith.

The couples one would be intresting for the read. Might be something to think about when we have a few spare hours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hahaha loved it...think i deffo fit into miss late boomer xx as well as one or two others hehe x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hahaha loved it...think i deffo fit into miss late boomer xx as well as one or two others hehe x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh my god, Miss Late Bloomer is so me. I cant believe it, totally true. I only started to have my cleavage on show 18 months ago, previous to that I was definitely a covered up girl. And previous to meeting Chris, and then when I started swinging, I was definitely the lights out under the covers type

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Glad you've all enjoyed these threads either again or for the first time. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol all 3 parts are brilliant, the OP's both got it spot on.

Have thought for a while now that quite a lot of women ive come across in the chat rooms are really , and get on like others should be grateful they are giving them any attention. i can see myself in one or maybe two of those but i aint sayin which haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fabulous! I think I may have come across several of each category whilst perusing the forums and I certainly fit in one of them very snugly indeed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

LOL I think I love this guy, spot on from my limited experience.

I suppose I'll meet some nice people soon but god its nice to know I aint the only one to meet these kinds of people.

For a long time I thought my polite approach was what the problem was haha!

I guess its swings and roundabout.....I wonder what people say about me? (not alot no buger know me haha)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Blackspice my admiration of you grows with each passing day: you've got some kahoonas!

I'm definately a couple of those...scary that there's a man out there that DOES understand the female psyche...let's get him girls!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I loved the post as well actually. there were parts in it that i could see my profile self in and my real life self

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall


"Blackspice my admiration of you grows with each passing day: you've got some kahoonas!

I'm definately a couple of those...scary that there's a man out there that DOES understand the female psyche...let's get him girls!!! "

I agree but I dont want to be understood and if they are gonna start now my plan is to change.... always keep em confused!

Mistress x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Women's Rules for Men

1. The female always makes The Rules.

2.The Rules are subject to change without prior notification.

3. No male can possibly know all The Rules.

4. If the female suspects the male knows all The Rules, she must immediately change some or all of The Rules.

5. The female is never wrong.

6. If the female is wrong, it is due to a misunderstanding which was the direct result of something the male did or said wrong.

7. If Rule 6 applies, the male must apologize immediately for causing the misunderstanding.

8. The female may change her mind at any time.

9. The male must never change his mind without the expressed written consent of the female.

10. The female has every right to be angry and upset at any time.

11. The male must remain calm at all times, unless the female wants him to be angry or upset.

12. The female must under no circumstances let the male know whether or not she wants him to be angry or upset.

13. The male is expected to mind read at all times.

14. The male who does not abide by The Rules cannot take the heat, lacks backbone, and is a wimp.

Any attempt to document The Rules could result in bodily harm.

15. If the female has PMS, all The Rules are null and void.

16. The female is ready when she is ready.

17. The male must be ready at all times.

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

Great blog!

Could see bits of myself in a couple of the descriptions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Blackspice my admiration of you grows with each passing day: you've got some kahoonas!

I'm definately a couple of those...scary that there's a man out there that DOES understand the female psyche...let's get him girls!!!

I agree but I dont want to be understood and if they are gonna start now my plan is to change.... always keep em confused!

Mistress x"

That's why we need to stop Blackspice before he spreads his knowledge!

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