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"If we spoke to the female then maybe " We would always want to chat with the one giving permission, oddly enough though when that question gets asked you do get a standard reply "I have their permission but they don't want to know what I get up to". We won't play with people in that situation. | |||
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"We both swing apart but also meet married men x who am I to judge weather married or not x there life there choice xxx " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I have permission. My husband tends to go over the rules we have with a guy before I meet him. So all parties are happy and boundaries aren't crossed. I don't think it's about married or not. It's about respect for everyone's happiness." Same here, & my hubby always looks at any potential meets profile, pics . Veri's etc. he always knows where i'll be. I text a couple of times during the meet. Just to let him know I am safe & comfortable with the person. We don't see it as a taboo. After all this site is about sexual liberation & having fun. Why shouldn't married people be allowed to enjoy it? We are after all. 'Swingers' - single people who only meet single people technically aren't swingers but they seem to get up on their high horses about it ![]() | |||
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"I find this post interesting, I am married, & very much happy & in love, we swing together & also alone. I find from a female point that no guys are bothered wether the lady is married or not. In fact a lot of them find it a turn on. But my hubby sadly struggles to get meets because he is always upfront about being married with consent to play alone. (even though he is bloody fit & great in the sack!) I think a lot of people on here are disillusioned as to what 'swinging' actually is, & just assume that there will be 'baggage' & 'hassle' from meeting one half of a couple, As long as all parties involved have spoke & confirmed & happy then I don't see how it's any different from any other form of meet. Mfmf fmf mfm. - they can all easily come with baggage & hassle of their own. Partners getting jealous watching their partner having what they see as too much fun etc etc. I think a lot of it is definitely down to the other people's lack of understanding, some couples enjoy meeting solo. We do, & it doesn't mean that it's going to be any different from meeting a single person. & it definitely doesn't cause any problems, quite the opposite in fact. - the sex we have together after a solo meet is bloody mind blowing ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I find this post interesting, I am married, & very much happy & in love, we swing together & also alone. I find from a female point that no guys are bothered wether the lady is married or not. In fact a lot of them find it a turn on. But my hubby sadly struggles to get meets because he is always upfront about being married with consent to play alone. (even though he is bloody fit & great in the sack!) I think a lot of people on here are disillusioned as to what 'swinging' actually is, & just assume that there will be 'baggage' & 'hassle' from meeting one half of a couple, As long as all parties involved have spoke & confirmed & happy then I don't see how it's any different from any other form of meet. Mfmf fmf mfm. - they can all easily come with baggage & hassle of their own. Partners getting jealous watching their partner having what they see as too much fun etc etc. I think a lot of it is definitely down to the other people's lack of understanding, some couples enjoy meeting solo. We do, & it doesn't mean that it's going to be any different from meeting a single person. & it definitely doesn't cause any problems, quite the opposite in fact. - the sex we have together after a solo meet is bloody mind blowing ![]() I'd say that's a pretty good take on it. For me though, it's not about lack of understanding, it's about once bitten, twice shy. A bad experience is tough to put behind you and whilst one shouldn't compare or tar everyone with the same brush, it's not always that simple. There are so many singles out there, for me it's easier to do that than risk the drama. | |||
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"I find this post interesting, I am married, & very much happy & in love, we swing together & also alone. I find from a female point that no guys are bothered wether the lady is married or not. In fact a lot of them find it a turn on. But my hubby sadly struggles to get meets because he is always upfront about being married with consent to play alone. (even though he is bloody fit & great in the sack!) I think a lot of people on here are disillusioned as to what 'swinging' actually is, & just assume that there will be 'baggage' & 'hassle' from meeting one half of a couple, As long as all parties involved have spoke & confirmed & happy then I don't see how it's any different from any other form of meet. Mfmf fmf mfm. - they can all easily come with baggage & hassle of their own. Partners getting jealous watching their partner having what they see as too much fun etc etc. I think a lot of it is definitely down to the other people's lack of understanding, some couples enjoy meeting solo. We do, & it doesn't mean that it's going to be any different from meeting a single person. & it definitely doesn't cause any problems, quite the opposite in fact. - the sex we have together after a solo meet is bloody mind blowing ![]() But how many single guys have you met that turn out to be married or in a relationship? And decided to meet them anyway? Or decide it's not for you and back out of the meet. By this time over the weeks you've been talking and getting to know them you've over looked many married legit guys just because of one event or the stigma or the say so of a forum poster? | |||
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"Hi all, hope your all well. I've read many posts regarding people's choice on playing with married people who's partners do not know (cheating). I'm interested to see if anyone's views differ to someone who's married but has full permission from their partner. I'm curious because in cuckolding / hotwife lifestyles, ladies are encouraged by their husbands to seek out men for both their enjoyment, whether the husband is present or not. This is viewed as ok by most I would say. However, being here before (about a year ago) and back again now, I've experienced couples looking for men but say no to married men. I accept that "some" married men may say their partner knows and is lying. But that can be said of a "single" man who is married but lying. So I'm asking, couples or ladies looking for a man. Is it acceptable or would you change your opinion if he has permission? " Absolutely never no room for cheating or dishonesty in swinging ! With regard to permission how the hell can that ever be confirmed | |||
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" But how many single guys have you met that turn out to be married or in a relationship? And decided to meet them anyway? Or decide it's not for you and back out of the meet. By this time over the weeks you've been talking and getting to know them you've over looked many married legit guys just because of one event or the stigma or the say so of a forum poster? " Personally I don't meet very many people so that's not really a concern for me. I've only once turned up to a spontaneous meet to find the guy was married. I finished my drink then left. I don't object to married men as such, I object to dishonesty. I'd rather people were up front so that I can make an informed choice. Couples can be complicated. I like a simple life without drama. I certainly don't take advice from fellow forum posters about who I should/shouldn't meet so I'm not sure what you meant by that. I don't read verifications either, I have a mind of my own and my instincts are usually pretty good so I rely on myself rather than others. I waste no-one's time here but my own. Hope that answers all your questions. ![]() | |||
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"The couples dynamic is what we're looking for so it wouldn't matter how much permission they had even if they ticked our other boxes...it's just not worth the added complications...and makes us wonder why their partner doesn't want to play with them...If they don't, why would we want to?" That's fine and when we first started the group sex was great the couple fun tended to be a bit harder to arrange and the meets weren't the best infact every bad experience we had was from a couples. So we started playing separately and haven't looked back and stil have the odd mmf or 4sum with people we already know. As for wondering why there oh wouldn't play with them is easily answered, because we have the choice. We wonder why other couples don't is it because there not as open as us? | |||
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"The couples dynamic is what we're looking for so it wouldn't matter how much permission they had even if they ticked our other boxes...it's just not worth the added complications...and makes us wonder why their partner doesn't want to play with them...If they don't, why would we want to? That's fine and when we first started the group sex was great the couple fun tended to be a bit harder to arrange and the meets weren't the best infact every bad experience we had was from a couples. So we started playing separately and haven't looked back and stil have the odd mmf or 4sum with people we already know. As for wondering why there oh wouldn't play with them is easily answered, because we have the choice. We wonder why other couples don't is it because there not as open as us? " I can't speak for them but we don't because we enjoy it together more. | |||
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"The couples dynamic is what we're looking for so it wouldn't matter how much permission they had even if they ticked our other boxes...it's just not worth the added complications...and makes us wonder why their partner doesn't want to play with them...If they don't, why would we want to? That's fine and when we first started the group sex was great the couple fun tended to be a bit harder to arrange and the meets weren't the best infact every bad experience we had was from a couples. So we started playing separately and haven't looked back and stil have the odd mmf or 4sum with people we already know. As for wondering why there oh wouldn't play with them is easily answered, because we have the choice. We wonder why other couples don't is it because there not as open as us? I can't speak for them but we don't because we enjoy it together more. " The perfect answer ![]() | |||
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"If we can meet socially with the other half to confirm that said permission/agreement is there then we have no problem, but we are not here to help people cheat and wont knowingly do it, that is not swinging, if people want to cheat thats upto them but they shouldnt unwittingly use swingers to do that, everyone involved should no what they are getting into, the whole idea of swinging is nsa, if 1 person is cheating then theres always strings there." Fair play to you for taking the time out to see if the guy is genuine sadly many dont bother. It is obvious that my point will never come across , some have posted with the same issues but already cheating has been mentioned along with strings and baggage subconscious negative thoughts have found there way into all that read this post. The world is not a fair place and fabbed is no different unlike others I have play mates and friends and a wife I trust that trusts me and would never break that trust. I wish everyone a happy trouble free swinging experience especially to all the couples out there who invite people into there relationships but spare a thought for the married man we are bloody good lol x | |||
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"I wouldn't have a problem to see a hotwife or a single woman who is married and cheating from here, infact the thought turns me on even more ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Shock horror! Where are your morals lol | |||
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"As long I have spoken to the 3rd party and they are cool with it I have no problems playing with the other half... The key word is permission.... I'm not out to help someone cheat behind their partners back... So on more than one occasion if I don't speak to them it goes no further I'm here for fun, not to break an innocernt persons marriage " Permission implies that you own that person where as in a swinging relationship you should only need your blessing and usually a lift to the venue there meeting in lol . ![]() | |||
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"I wouldn't have a problem to see a hotwife or a single woman who is married and cheating from here, infact the thought turns me on even more ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() lol I know. I don't got any ![]() | |||
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" Permission implies that you own that person where as in a swinging relationship you should only need your blessing and usually a lift to the venue there meeting in lol . ![]() No... Permission in this case means that everyone that needs to know has given consent..if I don't have that consent it goes no further . Nothing about ownership perceived or otherwise ... That's word twisting | |||
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"I have permission. My husband tends to go over the rules we have with a guy before I meet him. So all parties are happy and boundaries aren't crossed. I don't think it's about married or not. It's about respect for everyone's happiness." ![]() | |||
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"I have permission. My husband tends to go over the rules we have with a guy before I meet him. So all parties are happy and boundaries aren't crossed. I don't think it's about married or not. It's about respect for everyone's happiness. Same here, & my hubby always looks at any potential meets profile, pics . Veri's etc. he always knows where i'll be. I text a couple of times during the meet. Just to let him know I am safe & comfortable with the person. We don't see it as a taboo. After all this site is about sexual liberation & having fun. Why shouldn't married people be allowed to enjoy it? We are after all. 'Swingers' - single people who only meet single people technically aren't swingers but they seem to get up on their high horses about it ![]() Pot kettle | |||
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"I find this post interesting, I am married, & very much happy & in love, we swing together & also alone. I find from a female point that no guys are bothered wether the lady is married or not. In fact a lot of them find it a turn on. But my hubby sadly struggles to get meets because he is always upfront about being married with consent to play alone. (even though he is bloody fit & great in the sack!) I think a lot of people on here are disillusioned as to what 'swinging' actually is, & just assume that there will be 'baggage' & 'hassle' from meeting one half of a couple, As long as all parties involved have spoke & confirmed & happy then I don't see how it's any different from any other form of meet. Mfmf fmf mfm. - they can all easily come with baggage & hassle of their own. Partners getting jealous watching their partner having what they see as too much fun etc etc. I think a lot of it is definitely down to the other people's lack of understanding, some couples enjoy meeting solo. We do, & it doesn't mean that it's going to be any different from meeting a single person. & it definitely doesn't cause any problems, quite the opposite in fact. - the sex we have together after a solo meet is bloody mind blowing ![]() I totally agree with you. Each meet & each person is different, but there are a lot of genuine swingers who do play separately & have no problems with it within their own relationship, so I don't see why other people should write them off. & the whole bad experiences thing. I had one too. With a single guy! Put me off meeting for nearly a year. | |||
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"I have permission. My husband tends to go over the rules we have with a guy before I meet him. So all parties are happy and boundaries aren't crossed. I don't think it's about married or not. It's about respect for everyone's happiness. Same here, & my hubby always looks at any potential meets profile, pics . Veri's etc. he always knows where i'll be. I text a couple of times during the meet. Just to let him know I am safe & comfortable with the person. We don't see it as a taboo. After all this site is about sexual liberation & having fun. Why shouldn't married people be allowed to enjoy it? We are after all. 'Swingers' - single people who only meet single people technically aren't swingers but they seem to get up on their high horses about it ![]() ?? | |||
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" Permission implies that you own that person where as in a swinging relationship you should only need your blessing and usually a lift to the venue there meeting in lol . ![]() I do find it interesting that of all the people that used the word permission. The op who used it as a title, the countless ppl who used it before me, I am the one who gets accused of using it as a byword for something else... But there you go | |||
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"I used to play with married men and women who had permission to play alone. Then I met a man, met his wife in McDonald's to have a chat. She confirmed she was happy for him to seek it elsewhere. A month or so down the line, we've met a few times, we text each other whilst we are going about our daily lives. Then I get a text from the wife asking to meet. Turns out she's happy for him to get sex elsewhere, but the texting and the chatting is a huge problem for her. She'd tried talking to him, he'd told her not to be so stupid. I walked away. Sometimes it isn't the sex elsewhere that is an issue. People forget that. " My OH had said to me that she wouldn't have a problem with me having a one night stand but would have a problem if I had a relationship with someone. Her logic is that I would then be giving my love to someone else, not her. | |||
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" Permission implies that you own that person where as in a swinging relationship you should only need your blessing and usually a lift to the venue there meeting in lol . ![]() It's Ok call it a school boy error regarding couples lol | |||
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"I don't meet male half's of couples even if their wife's knows I just find single guys less complicated " Snap ![]() | |||
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"The focus of this thread is interesting because of what people define as cheating and not cheating, which relies on 'permission' and a level of honesty. Yet the nature of this site doesn't always lend itself that much to being truly 'honest'. I think it's all a very grey area. " Sorry to appear a bit thick, but it has been said that the nature of this site doesn't always lend itself that much to being truly 'honest'. How does that fit in with cheating? There is a big difference between not being 'truly' honest, being dishonest and cheating in our opinion. Speaking as a couple, isn't the underpinning thing in swinging all about honesty and openness between partners? We define cheating as not being honest with your partner if you have one. Still interesting what other people think, but let's be honest, we know what opinion we are going to get from the hundreds of people who ARE cheating on here! | |||
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"Its,fine but if they have a partner and have full permission have the balls to put it on there profile . And dont just sling it in after a few messages . If its on your profile then people can choose to or not " Even more disappointing when they are great fun and drop in the 'married and lying' info on the second meet. Respect to the honest guys...we all have our reasons for being here and they are best out in the open. | |||
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"Couldn't care less from a moral stance. I am the guardian of my own morals - no-one else's! If you're looking for regular meets with the same person - married's seem to be more reliable for daytime meets - and singles for evening/weekend meets! I just prefer attached guys to be straight with me so I can make darned sure that I don't get emotionally attached to them in any way - as I have no intention of being party to a couple splitting up! Xx" Great posting and a superb profile. Totally agree. xx | |||
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"Its,fine but if they have a partner and have full permission have the balls to put it on there profile . And dont just sling it in after a few messages . If its on your profile then people can choose to or not Even more disappointing when they are great fun and drop in the 'married and lying' info on the second meet. Respect to the honest guys...we all have our reasons for being here and they are best out in the open." ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I would just meet a single guy less complicated for me that way, I do not want to have to talk to his wife to make sure it is all ok so it would not be for me." i agree when i meet a guy i don't want to speak to his wife to get her approval too, the whole point of meeting single men is so it's just me and him and noone else to worry about | |||
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"Hi all, hope your all well. I've read many posts regarding people's choice on playing with married people who's partners do not know (cheating). I'm interested to see if anyone's views differ to someone who's married but has full permission from their partner. I'm curious because in cuckolding / hotwife lifestyles, ladies are encouraged by their husbands to seek out men for both their enjoyment, whether the husband is present or not. This is viewed as ok by most I would say. However, being here before (about a year ago) and back again now, I've experienced couples looking for men but say no to married men. I accept that "some" married men may say their partner knows and is lying. But that can be said of a "single" man who is married but lying. So I'm asking, couples or ladies looking for a man. Is it acceptable or would you change your opinion if he has permission? " We would just assume you overpower her with what you want and she is powerless in your relationship,then again we dont meet single men anyway and we dont meet couples where the man has to get someone else in to satisfy his wife | |||
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"With permission is fine to me. Tbh though there are plenty of definitely single guys in here so I would choose them over the hassle of trying to figure out if a guy is married or in a relationship and has permission or not. " ![]() | |||
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"I used to play with married men and women who had permission to play alone. Then I met a man, met his wife in McDonald's to have a chat. She confirmed she was happy for him to seek it elsewhere. A month or so down the line, we've met a few times, we text each other whilst we are going about our daily lives. Then I get a text from the wife asking to meet. Turns out she's happy for him to get sex elsewhere, but the texting and the chatting is a huge problem for her. She'd tried talking to him, he'd told her not to be so stupid. I walked away. Sometimes it isn't the sex elsewhere that is an issue. People forget that. " Very similar, my wife knows where I go, however she doesn't want to know who with or what happened. It works for us. | |||
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"The focus of this thread is interesting because of what people define as cheating and not cheating, which relies on 'permission' and a level of honesty. Yet the nature of this site doesn't always lend itself that much to being truly 'honest'. I think it's all a very grey area. " the nature of the site and the nature of swinging is all about openess and honesty. | |||
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"The focus of this thread is interesting because of what people define as cheating and not cheating, which relies on 'permission' and a level of honesty. Yet the nature of this site doesn't always lend itself that much to being truly 'honest'. I think it's all a very grey area. the nature of the site and the nature of swinging is all about openess and honesty." We agree totally and thanks for being another voice! Of course, most single guys will say anything because, well, most of them are desperate single guys! True swinging couples however, believe in being open and honest with their partners. Whilst we have read about the different reasons people may have to cheat, it is still that; cheating. People can always choose not to cheat, can't they? Would love to hear their theory on how cheating is being honest. | |||
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"The focus of this thread is interesting because of what people define as cheating and not cheating, which relies on 'permission' and a level of honesty. Yet the nature of this site doesn't always lend itself that much to being truly 'honest'. I think it's all a very grey area. the nature of the site and the nature of swinging is all about openess and honesty. We agree totally and thanks for being another voice! Of course, most single guys will say anything because, well, most of them are desperate single guys! True swinging couples however, believe in being open and honest with their partners. Whilst we have read about the different reasons people may have to cheat, it is still that; cheating. People can always choose not to cheat, can't they? Would love to hear their theory on how cheating is being honest." Totally true & cheating is still cheating however it is dressed up if the partner does not know about it. But it's fair to say that some "swinging couples" play seperately or in my case, she doesn't play at all. But she is happy for me to play alone. Surely that's not considered cheating? | |||
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"The focus of this thread is interesting because of what people define as cheating and not cheating, which relies on 'permission' and a level of honesty. Yet the nature of this site doesn't always lend itself that much to being truly 'honest'. I think it's all a very grey area. the nature of the site and the nature of swinging is all about openess and honesty. We agree totally and thanks for being another voice! Of course, most single guys will say anything because, well, most of them are desperate single guys! True swinging couples however, believe in being open and honest with their partners. Whilst we have read about the different reasons people may have to cheat, it is still that; cheating. People can always choose not to cheat, can't they? Would love to hear their theory on how cheating is being honest. Totally true & cheating is still cheating however it is dressed up if the partner does not know about it. But it's fair to say that some "swinging couples" play seperately or in my case, she doesn't play at all. But she is happy for me to play alone. Surely that's not considered cheating? " As she ever comfirmed shes happy for you to meet over the phone or in person with any meets? | |||
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"The focus of this thread is interesting because of what people define as cheating and not cheating, which relies on 'permission' and a level of honesty. Yet the nature of this site doesn't always lend itself that much to being truly 'honest'. I think it's all a very grey area. the nature of the site and the nature of swinging is all about openess and honesty. We agree totally and thanks for being another voice! Of course, most single guys will say anything because, well, most of them are desperate single guys! True swinging couples however, believe in being open and honest with their partners. Whilst we have read about the different reasons people may have to cheat, it is still that; cheating. People can always choose not to cheat, can't they? Would love to hear their theory on how cheating is being honest. Totally true & cheating is still cheating however it is dressed up if the partner does not know about it. But it's fair to say that some "swinging couples" play seperately or in my case, she doesn't play at all. But she is happy for me to play alone. Surely that's not considered cheating? " Of course its not cheating if you can prove that to be true, but many will say that hoping people will just take there word for it. | |||
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"I used to play with both couples and with men who had permission, but after being in the middle of some very strange dynamics I made the decision to only play with actual single men. Yes you may have permission but is your other half genuinely ok with you playing? Am I going to get grief or unwanted messages?" My other half is absolutely ok with me playing. She has been encouraging me to go out to tonight, however I have a bit if a cold (not man flu) & not sure if I'm quite up for it. So I've put up a meet for tomorrow. ![]() | |||
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"The focus of this thread is interesting because of what people define as cheating and not cheating, which relies on 'permission' and a level of honesty. Yet the nature of this site doesn't always lend itself that much to being truly 'honest'. I think it's all a very grey area. the nature of the site and the nature of swinging is all about openess and honesty. We agree totally and thanks for being another voice! Of course, most single guys will say anything because, well, most of them are desperate single guys! True swinging couples however, believe in being open and honest with their partners. Whilst we have read about the different reasons people may have to cheat, it is still that; cheating. People can always choose not to cheat, can't they? Would love to hear their theory on how cheating is being honest. Totally true & cheating is still cheating however it is dressed up if the partner does not know about it. But it's fair to say that some "swinging couples" play seperately or in my case, she doesn't play at all. But she is happy for me to play alone. Surely that's not considered cheating? Of course its not cheating if you can prove that to be true, but many will say that hoping people will just take there word for it." Yes, many will say that & I do understand why people would be wary. However, it's a case of guilty until proven innocent. There is no trust even when someone is being honest. It's like stating "I'm a professional" do people need to prove they're not claiming job seekers? As I've said previously, I could send a couple of text messages that she has sent me telling me to go out (one from earlier today), but that would still not be enough for some people. They would say anyone can make up a text! Everyone's circumstances are different, but some people are very untrusting. I would not lie to someone for sex, there's no point, I get plenty at home, just nice now & then to have something a bit naughty. | |||
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"The focus of this thread is interesting because of what people define as cheating and not cheating, which relies on 'permission' and a level of honesty. Yet the nature of this site doesn't always lend itself that much to being truly 'honest'. I think it's all a very grey area. Sorry to appear a bit thick, but it has been said that the nature of this site doesn't always lend itself that much to being truly 'honest'. How does that fit in with cheating? There is a big difference between not being 'truly' honest, being dishonest and cheating in our opinion. Speaking as a couple, isn't the underpinning thing in swinging all about honesty and openness between partners? We define cheating as not being honest with your partner if you have one. Still interesting what other people think, but let's be honest, we know what opinion we are going to get from the hundreds of people who ARE cheating on here!" ![]() | |||
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"The focus of this thread is interesting because of what people define as cheating and not cheating, which relies on 'permission' and a level of honesty. Yet the nature of this site doesn't always lend itself that much to being truly 'honest'. I think it's all a very grey area. the nature of the site and the nature of swinging is all about openess and honesty. We agree totally and thanks for being another voice! Of course, most single guys will say anything because, well, most of them are desperate single guys! True swinging couples however, believe in being open and honest with their partners. Whilst we have read about the different reasons people may have to cheat, it is still that; cheating. People can always choose not to cheat, can't they? Would love to hear their theory on how cheating is being honest. Totally true & cheating is still cheating however it is dressed up if the partner does not know about it. But it's fair to say that some "swinging couples" play seperately or in my case, she doesn't play at all. But she is happy for me to play alone. Surely that's not considered cheating? Of course its not cheating if you can prove that to be true, but many will say that hoping people will just take there word for it. Yes, many will say that & I do understand why people would be wary. However, it's a case of guilty until proven innocent. There is no trust even when someone is being honest. It's like stating "I'm a professional" do people need to prove they're not claiming job seekers? As I've said previously, I could send a couple of text messages that she has sent me telling me to go out (one from earlier today), but that would still not be enough for some people. They would say anyone can make up a text! Everyone's circumstances are different, but some people are very untrusting. I would not lie to someone for sex, there's no point, I get plenty at home, just nice now & then to have something a bit naughty. " That none trust and urge to check things out is down to the amount of people on here that do just lie straight out, many people here dont want to be caught up in a web of lies or named in a divorce case or have angry husbands/wives turning up to confront them, so they either wont go there or check things out 1st, however having said that, there are people that dont care and will turn a blind eye to it all, as they believe it doesnt concern them. | |||
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"The focus of this thread is interesting because of what people define as cheating and not cheating, which relies on 'permission' and a level of honesty. Yet the nature of this site doesn't always lend itself that much to being truly 'honest'. I think it's all a very grey area. the nature of the site and the nature of swinging is all about openess and honesty. We agree totally and thanks for being another voice! Of course, most single guys will say anything because, well, most of them are desperate single guys! True swinging couples however, believe in being open and honest with their partners. Whilst we have read about the different reasons people may have to cheat, it is still that; cheating. People can always choose not to cheat, can't they? Would love to hear their theory on how cheating is being honest. Totally true & cheating is still cheating however it is dressed up if the partner does not know about it. But it's fair to say that some "swinging couples" play seperately or in my case, she doesn't play at all. But she is happy for me to play alone. Surely that's not considered cheating? Of course its not cheating if you can prove that to be true, but many will say that hoping people will just take there word for it. Yes, many will say that & I do understand why people would be wary. However, it's a case of guilty until proven innocent. There is no trust even when someone is being honest. It's like stating "I'm a professional" do people need to prove they're not claiming job seekers? As I've said previously, I could send a couple of text messages that she has sent me telling me to go out (one from earlier today), but that would still not be enough for some people. They would say anyone can make up a text! Everyone's circumstances are different, but some people are very untrusting. I would not lie to someone for sex, there's no point, I get plenty at home, just nice now & then to have something a bit naughty. That none trust and urge to check things out is down to the amount of people on here that do just lie straight out, many people here dont want to be caught up in a web of lies or named in a divorce case or have angry husbands/wives turning up to confront them, so they either wont go there or check things out 1st, however having said that, there are people that dont care and will turn a blind eye to it all, as they believe it doesnt concern them." Yeah your right, like everything else in life, minority ruin things for the majority. ![]() | |||
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"The focus of this thread is interesting because of what people define as cheating and not cheating, which relies on 'permission' and a level of honesty. Yet the nature of this site doesn't always lend itself that much to being truly 'honest'. I think it's all a very grey area. the nature of the site and the nature of swinging is all about openess and honesty. We agree totally and thanks for being another voice! Of course, most single guys will say anything because, well, most of them are desperate single guys! True swinging couples however, believe in being open and honest with their partners. Whilst we have read about the different reasons people may have to cheat, it is still that; cheating. People can always choose not to cheat, can't they? Would love to hear their theory on how cheating is being honest. Totally true & cheating is still cheating however it is dressed up if the partner does not know about it. But it's fair to say that some "swinging couples" play seperately or in my case, she doesn't play at all. But she is happy for me to play alone. Surely that's not considered cheating? Of course its not cheating if you can prove that to be true, but many will say that hoping people will just take there word for it. Yes, many will say that & I do understand why people would be wary. However, it's a case of guilty until proven innocent. There is no trust even when someone is being honest. It's like stating "I'm a professional" do people need to prove they're not claiming job seekers? As I've said previously, I could send a couple of text messages that she has sent me telling me to go out (one from earlier today), but that would still not be enough for some people. They would say anyone can make up a text! Everyone's circumstances are different, but some people are very untrusting. I would not lie to someone for sex, there's no point, I get plenty at home, just nice now & then to have something a bit naughty. That none trust and urge to check things out is down to the amount of people on here that do just lie straight out, many people here dont want to be caught up in a web of lies or named in a divorce case or have angry husbands/wives turning up to confront them, so they either wont go there or check things out 1st, however having said that, there are people that dont care and will turn a blind eye to it all, as they believe it doesnt concern them. Yeah your right, like everything else in life, minority ruin things for the majority. ![]() ![]() | |||
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