FabSwingers.com forum: Don't douche your front ladies

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I have just been for a recent health check and was 'told off' for being too clean.. Apparently I had washed away some healthy bacteria and made my vagina too Alkaline

You can image my surprise being told that i shouldn't cleanse internally or douche as it could cause BV

I was totally unaware of this and thought i would share it with all you ladies that also douche just so you was aware that you may cause a chemical imbalance to your body.

Sorry if Im telling anyone how to 'suck eggs' but its not intended.. I honestly had no idea of this and i attend health checks regularly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are quite a few forum posts on this subject (tho they usually have fish/rotten/smelly in the title - you get the idea)

Many women maybe unaware that they have BV. It's not a cleanliness issue. It's an imbalance which many things can trigger- over washing, sex, periods etc. Can be treated with antibiotics (which may give you thrush jeez hard being a woman) or Balance Active pessaries from chemist. At my last check up the nurse advised good old salt baths to keep it at bay. Good luck and hopefully this thread won't decend into the usual immature crap that others have.

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By *qua vitaeWoman
over a year ago

Shropshire/Midlands

Yes, the vagina has natural bacteria to keep it healthy. Any change to this, can cause issues. So it's good that you have brought it up.

It amazes me how some products are marketed to consumers into thinking something that is totally normal into something into abnormal.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Im expecting it... But if people want to be sanctimonious over my post then let them... I was trying to inform other ladies about douching their vagina... If there's something to be funny about that then bring it on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had to give up my bubble baths

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

"I have just been for a recent health check and was 'told off' for being too clean.. Apparently I had washed away some healthy bacteria and made my vagina too Alkaline

You can image my surprise being told that i shouldn't cleanse internally or douche as it could cause BV

I was totally unaware of this and thought i would share it with all you ladies that also douche just so you was aware that you may cause a chemical imbalance to your body.

Sorry if Im telling anyone how to 'suck eggs' but its not intended.. I honestly had no idea of this and i attend health checks regularly

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really??

even i knew this and i don't have a pussy altho i have been around alot of them

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yes, the vagina has natural bacteria to keep it healthy. Any change to this, can cause issues. So it's good that you have brought it up.

It amazes me how some products are marketed to consumers into thinking something that is totally normal into something into abnormal.

had always been in my routine of getting ready for any meet... Cleaned out front and back... I guess only my rear will be getting the internal cleansing treatment from now on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, the vagina has natural bacteria to keep it healthy. Any change to this, can cause issues. So it's good that you have brought it up.

It amazes me how some products are marketed to consumers into thinking something that is totally normal into something into abnormal.

had always been in my routine of getting ready for any meet... Cleaned out front and back... I guess only my rear will be getting the internal cleansing treatment from now on

I used to as well until I was told not to after numerous infections due to the ph balance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was sitting next to a young girl in the clinic, she had picked up something.

She was a bit concerned as she had not had sex in a while, she came out later, and was told inserting the shower end in herself, had caused the bacteria.

She only wanted to keep clean, and give herself a frill.

Her

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have just been for a recent health check and was 'told off' for being too clean.. Apparently I had washed away some healthy bacteria and made my vagina too Alkaline

You can image my surprise being told that i shouldn't cleanse internally or douche as it could cause BV

I was totally unaware of this and thought i would share it with all you ladies that also douche just so you was aware that you may cause a chemical imbalance to your body.

Sorry if Im telling anyone how to 'suck eggs' but its not intended.. I honestly had no idea of this and i attend health checks regularly

really??

even i knew this and i don't have a pussy altho i have been around alot of them

nope... Not me.. Aware of thrust so i know not to use perfumed products but not just douching... Might make me thick or just naive but Im a quick learner!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suffered with an itchy bum for a very very long time. Went to the doc several times but it wasn't until I saw a locum doc and she asked if I was using soap on it that I found the solution to my problem.

Now I just use pure water and the itch has gone.

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

"I have just been for a recent health check and was 'told off' for being too clean.. Apparently I had washed away some healthy bacteria and made my vagina too Alkaline

You can image my surprise being told that i shouldn't cleanse internally or douche as it could cause BV

I was totally unaware of this and thought i would share it with all you ladies that also douche just so you was aware that you may cause a chemical imbalance to your body.

Sorry if Im telling anyone how to 'suck eggs' but its not intended.. I honestly had no idea of this and i attend health checks regularly

really??

even i knew this and i don't have a pussy altho i have been around alot of them

nope... Not me.. Aware of thrust so i know not to use perfumed products but not just douching... Might make me thick or just naive but Im a quick learner!!

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you're not thick you learn somthing new every day

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

Thanks for the great information xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I suffered with an itchy bum for a very very long time. Went to the doc several times but it wasn't until I saw a locum doc and she asked if I was using soap on it that I found the solution to my problem.

Now I just use pure water and the itch has gone.

My wife only ever uses water only for the same reasons

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nope... Not me.. Aware of thrust so i know not to use perfumed products but not just douching... Might make me thick or just naive but Im a quick learner!!

Not knowing something doesn't make you thick, we all have things we don't know and we don't know we don't know them until we do know them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also a change in sexual partners can cause bv xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really struggle with only using water as I don't feel clean and fresh with just water although I try not to douche often but again am so obsessed with keeping myself clean that I struggle not to. I always use fem fresh wipes after the loo and I use fem fresh wash in the shower.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I really struggle with only using water as I don't feel clean and fresh with just water although I try not to douche often but again am so obsessed with keeping myself clean that I struggle not to. I always use fem fresh wipes after the loo and I use fem fresh wash in the shower. "

Fem fresh gave me thrush

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are quite a few forum posts on this subject (tho they usually have fish/rotten/smelly in the title - you get the idea)

Been there and done that. Sometimes it seems like a vicious circle. Lots of things can cause BV. Condoms tend to set me off so not ideal! Tried the latex free ones, but they only seem to make them in one size which again, is not ideal.

Good post though.

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

I am relatively prone to BV and it's largely due to condoms!

Perfumed products can cause BV as well as thrush so ladies please stay away from the scented pantyliners, vaginal washes and deodorants! Au naturel is the best way to go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

some people are so obsessed these days with cocks and pussies smelling like a bar of soap.

If you just use fresh water in ans on you're pussy it is clean! same with you're bell end.

Cocks and pussies are supossed to be slightley musky it's the natural scent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The pussy is self cleaning so you should never use anything internally to clean. For outside warm water only.

It's a delicate Eco-system, unfortunately society likes to tell women that their sexual organs are 'dirty' and shouldn't smell of anything other than perfume (god forbid they smell how they should smell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was aware of this but as it happens I just shower every day and feel that is quite sufficient

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a FYI to the original thrush discussion Women should also urinate just after cumming.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Also a change in sexual partners can cause bv xx"

Indeed.....a previous partner of mine used to complain of smelling "fishy" the next morn if I had cum inside her...my sperm were causing an imbalance!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I'm going to ask the dumbest question of all now

What does BV stand for and then I can Google what it is!

I don't douche btw and use a basic shower gel that I like the smell of

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well I'm going to ask the dumbest question of all now

What does BV stand for and then I can Google what it is!

I don't douche btw and use a basic shower gel that I like the smell of

Bad Vagina lol!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wasn't unaware until I got b.v 5 times in 6 months

so no more bubble baths and no latex condoms ! Now all fine but also hate not using soap x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well I'm going to ask the dumbest question of all now

What does BV stand for and then I can Google what it is!

I don't douche btw and use a basic shower gel that I like the smell of

Bad Vagina lol!"

Lmfao and there is me thinking it was some technical medical term I'd never heard of

Shant bother with Google now

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By *eryBigGirlWoman
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

He's having a laugh. Just google bv and it comes up what it is. Every woman should know about it!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well I'm going to ask the dumbest question of all now

What does BV stand for and then I can Google what it is!

I don't douche btw and use a basic shower gel that I like the smell of

Bad Vagina lol!

Lmfao and there is me thinking it was some technical medical term I'd never heard of

Shant bother with Google now

Actually "bacterial Vaginosis"....what it says on the tin. Inflammation due to imbalance of bacteria in yer chuff!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well I'm going to ask the dumbest question of all now

What does BV stand for and then I can Google what it is!

I don't douche btw and use a basic shower gel that I like the smell of

Bad Vagina lol!

Lmfao and there is me thinking it was some technical medical term I'd never heard of

Shant bother with Google now

Actually "bacterial Vaginosis"....what it says on the tin. Inflammation due to imbalance of bacteria in yer chuff!"

Lol there you go no need for Google now but.....

May have to spank an arse if I ever get to meet it's owner

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

okay.... now i am going to ask a stupid "man question"... so forgive me...

I know that the perfumed stuff can cause issued.... would that be the same of the "ph neutral" stuff I see in chemists?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have just been for a recent health check and was 'told off' for being too clean.. Apparently I had washed away some healthy bacteria and made my vagina too Alkaline

You can image my surprise being told that i shouldn't cleanse internally or douche as it could cause BV

I was totally unaware of this and thought i would share it with all you ladies that also douche just so you was aware that you may cause a chemical imbalance to your body.

Sorry if Im telling anyone how to 'suck eggs' but its not intended.. I honestly had no idea of this and i attend health checks regularly

really??

even i knew this and i don't have a pussy altho i have been around alot of them

Ditto. Johnny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get smacked and refused oral if I've washed my bits with soap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"okay.... now i am going to ask a stupid "man question"... so forgive me...

I know that the perfumed stuff can cause issued.... would that be the same of the "ph neutral" stuff I see in chemists?"

The vagina is a naturally acidic environment. Off the top of my head, I believe it's 5.5...I'm not entirely sure what they actually mean by PH neutral on packaging...actually neutral ie. PH 7 or PH compatible with the vagina...

...there are some very good products based on lactic acid that help for day to day balance before it gets to the BV stages...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a FYI to the original thrush discussion Women should also urinate just after cumming.

That doesn't actually help with thrush but can flush any bowel bacteria out of the urethra that have been transferred there by sexual activity-hence possibly helping to prevent cystitis...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nope... Not me.. Aware of thrust so i know not to use perfumed products but not just douching... Might make me thick or just naive but Im a quick learner!!

Not knowing something doesn't make you thick, we all have things we don't know and we don't know we don't know them until we do know them

Good thread OP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have just been for a recent health check and was 'told off' for being too clean.. Apparently I had washed away some healthy bacteria and made my vagina too Alkaline

You can image my surprise being told that i shouldn't cleanse internally or douche as it could cause BV

I was totally unaware of this and thought i would share it with all you ladies that also douche just so you was aware that you may cause a chemical imbalance to your body.

Sorry if Im telling anyone how to 'suck eggs' but its not intended.. I honestly had no idea of this and i attend health checks regularly

So you are telling us you have a hostile vagina?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had BV when I met my ex-husband, we hadn't been together long and I was really embarrassed. I hadn't got a clue what it was until I went to the Drs who informed me it was because I was too clean. I've used femfresh ever since and that works fine for me (10 plus years)

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts

Was vaginal douching ever a "thing"?

Not being snotty or anything but I never even would've thought of doing it.

- Amy. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, the vagina has natural bacteria to keep it healthy. Any change to this, can cause issues. So it's good that you have brought it up.

It amazes me how some products are marketed to consumers into thinking something that is totally normal into something into abnormal.

had always been in my routine of getting ready for any meet... Cleaned out front and back... I guess only my rear will be getting the internal cleansing treatment from now on

I think washing with water is ok, it's just the soap the ruins the natural Ph and all....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Was vaginal douching ever a "thing"?

Not being snotty or anything but I never even would've thought of doing it.

- Amy. x"

It was, and i think still is, a huge thing in the states where they sell special mixtures with different aromas. It used to be common practice to tell ladies to use one after that time of month, or if they felt they needed you freshen up. They even sell medicated ones for thrush.

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts

"Was vaginal douching ever a "thing"?

Not being snotty or anything but I never even would've thought of doing it.

- Amy. x

Well, you learn something new every day!

I was taught from a very young age that the vagina is a self-cleaning mechanism so admittedly, even if I had known, I probably still wouldn't have done it, but I'd never even heard of all this up until now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've had bouts of thrush - always brought on by antibiotics but never that I'm aware suffered with bv, what are the common symptoms?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've had bouts of thrush - always brought on by antibiotics but never that I'm aware suffered with bv, what are the common symptoms? "

You can be asymptomatic (without symptoms).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lately I douche, with water only, during that special time of the month us girlies are lucky to experience

. I am extremely heavy so it helps (prevent blood splashes on the floor as I'm drying myself)... yeah yeah TMI

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By *ratty_DamselWoman
over a year ago

Greater London

If you do get BV treat it will live yogurt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fem fresh gave me thrush

was reading down this and thought femfresh is supposed to be a neutral product - then i read your comment

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have just been for a recent health check and was 'told off' for being too clean.. Apparently I had washed away some healthy bacteria and made my vagina too Alkaline

You can image my surprise being told that i shouldn't cleanse internally or douche as it could cause BV

I was totally unaware of this and thought i would share it with all you ladies that also douche just so you was aware that you may cause a chemical imbalance to your body.

Sorry if Im telling anyone how to 'suck eggs' but its not intended.. I honestly had no idea of this and i attend health checks regularly

So you are telling us you have a hostile vagina?

let me show you how hostile it can be ... I would fear for your safety

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yes, the vagina has natural bacteria to keep it healthy. Any change to this, can cause issues. So it's good that you have brought it up.

It amazes me how some products are marketed to consumers into thinking something that is totally normal into something into abnormal.

had always been in my routine of getting ready for any meet... Cleaned out front and back... I guess only my rear will be getting the internal cleansing treatment from now on

I think washing with water is ok, it's just the soap the ruins the natural Ph and all...."

i was told any kind of douching with or without soap products!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looking for a safe and efficient alternative to vaginal douching ? Try 'my willy' guaranteed to restore the ph balance of any attractive vagina the way nature intended....' I tried love's willy and have never looked back' said miss gullible of sexyville. For a free, satisfaction guaranteed trial of 'my willy' please respond by return (please note, a good clean out is required before trial)

All joking aside, thought in knew what this meant but googled to be sure I wasn't a muppet, water and vinegar? Surely not a good idea? I was surprised. Thank god my bits are external. Poor girls

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over a year ago

"Looking for a safe and efficient alternative to vaginal douching ? Try 'my willy' guaranteed to restore the ph balance of any attractive vagina the way nature intended....' I tried love's willy and have never looked back' said miss gullible of sexyville. For a free, satisfaction guaranteed trial of 'my willy' please respond by return (please note, a good clean out is required before trial)

All joking aside, thought in knew what this meant but googled to be sure I wasn't a muppet, water and vinegar? Surely not a good idea? I was surprised. Thank god my bits are external. Poor girls

vinegar is very slightly acidic so in mild solution can help restore ph balance but not the malt stuff you put on your chips...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Balance activ gels are a godsend. They work out at like £1 a tube. Cam buy them from pharmacy or even just local tesco. I find the chlorine in hot tubs/ swimming pools can set me off with it or if my partners cum is particularly strong. Just squeeze a tube into the vagina before bed (use a panty liner for leakage) and do that for 3 or 4 days and it'll sort it right away. I sometimes just use the one for preventing it when I know it might occur e.g after my period, when I've been having lots of unprotected sex with the Mr...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

vinegar is very slightly acidic so in mild solution can help restore ph balance but not the malt stuff you put on your chips..."

Why not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vinegar (ascetic acid) is acid. Not very slightly acid. It's either brewed (malt, apple juice etc) or it's a bi product of the petrol-chemical industry. Now, which one do you want to squirt up your quim?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All joking aside, thought in knew what this meant but googled to be sure I wasn't a muppet, water and vinegar? Surely not a good idea? I was surprised. Thank god my bits are external. Poor girls

vinegar is very slightly acidic so in mild solution can help restore ph balance but not the malt stuff you put on your chips..."

Slightly acidic??? Erm.....it is an acid??....I'll have chips with my fish and vinegar thanks!!.....but I think I'll leave my foof to sort itself out thanks. I've never felt the need to douche....it's clean enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All joking aside, thought in knew what this meant but googled to be sure I wasn't a muppet, water and vinegar? Surely not a good idea? I was surprised. Thank god my bits are external. Poor girls

vinegar is very slightly acidic so in mild solution can help restore ph balance but not the malt stuff you put on your chips...

If you read my earlier posts, I'm not advocating douching at all. The vagina is a self cleaning orifice and introducing so called "cleaning" products is madness exacerbated by the school of thought that women's parts are somehow "dirty" or "smelly"...but there are some schools of thought that once unbalanced by the over use of alkaline solutions such as soap and other cleaning products, a mild alkaline solution such as acetic acid can help to restore the balance if used carefully. I use cleaning products based on the lactic acid in milk after finding soap too harsh and it's great...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"a mild alkaline solution such as acetic acid can help to restore the balance"

Lmao!

chemistry not your strong point? Stick to water! Please!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""a mild alkaline solution such as acetic acid can help to restore the balance"

Lmao!

chemistry not your strong point? Stick to water! Please!"

typo...it was early...ooops!

Perhaps the years of working in and researching womens sexual health doesn't completely qualify me to comment...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From what you've written so far I'd say no it doesn't. In order to "restore balance" you'd need to first test the ph of the vagina. Not just guess, then carefully prepare a solution to neutralise. Or just use water and time.

You can't assume a ph is to high then wash an acid up there in the hope it even things up!

Your advice is dangerous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Balance activ gels are a godsend. They work out at like £1 a tube. Cam buy them from pharmacy or even just local tesco. I find the chlorine in hot tubs/ swimming pools can set me off with it or if my partners cum is particularly strong. Just squeeze a tube into the vagina before bed (use a panty liner for leakage) and do that for 3 or 4 days and it'll sort it right away. I sometimes just use the one for preventing it when I know it might occur e.g after my period, when I've been having lots of unprotected sex with the Mr..."

Yep...I swear by these too, practically anything will set me off but these keep it at bay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"From what you've written so far I'd say no it doesn't. In order to "restore balance" you'd need to first test the ph of the vagina. Not just guess, then carefully prepare a solution to neutralise. Or just use water and time.

You can't assume a ph is to high then wash an acid up there in the hope it even things up!

Your advice is dangerous."

read my previous posts...I am not recommending douching at all...the imbalances are generally already caused by doing that. The vagina is generally a self cleaning orifice and doesn't need anything introducing to it. Someone asked about vinegar and I answered the query...

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By *izzjulezWoman
over a year ago

Essex

The only cure for BV Is to replace the good bacteria so forget antibiotics as everytime your given them you killing good and bad bacteria, I researched this after suffering with this and now take Rephresh Pro B and it works, the only down side is that you can't buy it in this country so I order it on eBay from America.

Check it out ladies as it's a God send and should be sold in this counrty as BV is a common problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The good bacteria needed to maintain a healthy vagina is lactobacillis. (however you spell it) once i found that out i started trying the products available to boost that in your body. Yakult, believe it or not, is what works wonders for me.

Haven't had bv from soap, bubble baths, or condoms since i found that out.

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By *hortieWoman
over a year ago

Northampton

last time I went to the clinic the nurse retested me to check out some 'excess fluid' (turned out I was just getting turned on while she was prodding me)

they got me to use aqueous cream to wash with and it can also be used as a moisturiser

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

nope... Not me.. Aware of thrust so i know not to use perfumed products but not just douching... Might make me thick or just naive but Im a quick learner!!

Not knowing something doesn't make you thick, we all have things we don't know and we don't know we don't know them until we do know them

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how much of the not knowing is to do with the brainwashing from the cleansing product industry that using thier product is good for you and you MUST use it or you will be ostrasised by your peers because you have a smelly fanny /cheesy cock ? its in their interest to persuade yu to buy their products and saddly we have all fallen for it

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By *izzjulezWoman
over a year ago

Essex

The bacteria you need to replace is L.rhamnosus GR1 and L.reuteri RC14 which you won't find in Food or live yogurt and our body doesn't replace its storage so over time it's lost, it also lives in our mouth to keep it healthy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" read my previous posts...I am not recommending douching at all...the imbalances are generally already caused by doing that. The vagina is generally a self cleaning orifice and doesn't need anything introducing to it. Someone asked about vinegar and I answered the query..."

If as you say, you work in this field then your advice should have been "don't use vinegar unless you like playing chemistry inside your foo foo."

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I've known for many years that vaginal douching was bad for the pH balance.

Never something I have really done. My ex sister in law was obsessed with it. She always had problems but that just made her douche more.

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By *izzjulezWoman
over a year ago

Essex

People who work in this field know nothing about this problem and I've asked quite a few but all they do is dish out antibiotics, hence why it comes back with a vengeance each time plus most are men who don't have to put up with it so doesn't get researched enough. It's common sense that we replace good bacteria in the gut when we take antibiotics and should be the same with the vagina, the problem is that you can't buy anything in this country yet you can go to America and buy it in any supermarket.

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By *opping_candyWoman
over a year ago

West Yorkshire

I've had BV once and didn't know I had it, I knew about its existence but was asymptomatic. Despite knowing I shouldn't wash my bits with anything other than water I just can't stop washing with shower gel otherwise I feel paranoid. Outside bits only might I add. I haven't stuck a bottle of imperial leather up there yet.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I have a spray attachment next to my loo. I wash with that (a hang up of gaving been married to a Muslim).

I just used shower gel when having a shower but never internally.

The thought of using chemicals inside me (for chemicals are what they are) is enough to put me off.

Never had any 'cleanliness' issues.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

*having

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By *izzjulezWoman
over a year ago

Essex

I use sanex 0% and have no problem as it doesn't contain any perfume or parabens and never bath, only shower. Women spend so much money on perfumed toiletries to smell nice but don't realise it's doing more harm than good.

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