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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

My lady was today brought in on a disciplinary for being on here and our lifestyle. Being the feisty cow she is she told them where to go. Has any others ever encountered this?

Cheers

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts

What kind of work did she do?

I find it very odd that you could face diciplinary action for what you, as consenting adults, do in your private life. x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

She works in retail

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ASk them why the boss was using a fabswingers to find you out .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How did they know?

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

Depending on exactly what was said I don't think it's grounds for dismissal.

Ruby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree with the post about the boss looking on fabs . None of their business telem to f right off lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If she sold pool tables I think we may have a clue on how the boss got to find out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like a slam dunk claim for unfair dismissal

Can I suggest you see a good lawyer & then get some holiday and new car brochures.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If she sold pool tables I think we may have a clue on how the boss got to find out "

That was at my work and it was gossip on the shop floor that sparked the interview

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By *orthyorkypairCouple
over a year ago

North Yorkshire

suggest seeking advice, and looking at wrongful dismissal, unless it specifically says in here contract she cannot swing then what people do in private lifes is nohing to do with employers unless its illegal!!!

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By *lit KingMan
over a year ago

south lakes

Sorry to read this.

Sounds like one for legal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been outed in a previous job and was worried about the consequences so I manned up and went to h.r. they hadn't had to deal with anything like it before so sent me away while they looked into it. Their conclutions were it didn't effect my job and wasn't ileagal so was nothing do with them.

I'm guessing if she has lost her job it may be due to her reaction rather than anything else.

Maybe she has a claim.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If that's the case then they are in the wrong as it is discrimination. It is classed as sensitive personal data.

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By *arnayguyMan
over a year ago

Durham Tees

If she was using the company computer to check her account it is probably grounds for dismissal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't have thought they could do that unless you advertised the company etc in pictures

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Good advice guys thank you

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Full details required but some contracts have a clause in them about bringing the profession into disrepute but solid proof would be required.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If she was using the company computer to check her account it is probably grounds for dismissal. "

I'd sack her myself if she was being that daft lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She told them where to go,they didn't sack her

Was she talking about about swinging on the shop floor?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If she was using the company computer to check her account it is probably grounds for dismissal.

I'd sack her myself if she was being that daft lol "
was she sacked or did she walk? Sorry if iv misread posts

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"She told them where to go,they didn't sack her

? "

You have a point there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suspect the employer will be citing reputational damage as the reason. Employment tribunals have upheld these in the past if the employer can prove that.

Seek legal advice is my opinion.

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By *stwoCouple
over a year ago

anywhere

How long have you been there and in effect did you hand in your own resignationtherefore there is no case unless you can try and prove constructive dissmissal

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By *arnayguyMan
over a year ago

Durham Tees


"If she was using the company computer to check her account it is probably grounds for dismissal.

I'd sack her myself if she was being that daft lol "

It is surprising what some people look at on their work computer. A lot of companies have security systems which allow them to see everything you have looked at and everything you have typed.

Just because you are in your own email account, doesn't make it private. If you are on a work computer your employer could be looking at all of your 'private' surfing and messages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If she was using the company computer to check her account it is probably grounds for dismissal. "
Yes, recon so to it was cos of that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If she was browsing on her own device in her own time ie a break then she is fine. If she walked or became stroppy then she can be sacked for gross misconduct.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She told them where to go,they didn't sack her

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You have a point there."

indeed she walked, she wasn't sacked. And being a 'feisty cow' who walked out of a disciplinary I suspect that that behaviour constitutes gross misconduct and she sealed her own fate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She told them where to go,they didn't sack her

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You have a point there.

indeed she walked, she wasn't sacked. And being a 'feisty cow' who walked out of a disciplinary I suspect that that behaviour constitutes gross misconduct and she sealed her own fate"

Or she felt backed into a corner and was forced to resign.that would be considered at an unfair dismissal tribunal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some companies have it in the contract that an employee must not bring the company into disrepute. That includes uploading pissed up photo's to Facebook if the company is mentioned.

No such thing as a 'private life' these days

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts


"suggest seeking advice, and looking at wrongful dismissal, unless it specifically says in here contract she cannot swing then what people do in private lifes is nohing to do with employers unless its illegal!!! "

This. If you'd said you worked with kids, I could see where it could get sticky but retail???

Your sex life is none of your employer's damn business!

I would seek legal advice.

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts

Oh, if you walked out as opposed to being sacked, you may have actually shot yourself in the foot... x

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By *oandjohnCouple
over a year ago

South Wales, will travel to Hereford, Worcestershire and Shropshire

Who says that they have brought the company into disrepute? Can they prove that? If they were going to hold a disaplinary she could claim that she felt the she had no option other than to walked to prevent being sacked. If they are going through a disaplinary process then they have already seemed that it is going to be a foregone conclusion.

It is a great shame she didn't take a lawyer in as a personal representive which you are allowed to do.

Could be a breach of her human right to not be allowed to expess herself sexually in a non illegal way in her personal free time. You could argue that it is no different to being on a singles dating website where she would be free to shag anyone she met on the website or in the pub on a Friday night and would be beyond reproach as a single person. It could be argued that she is being victimised due to her relationship status. Again that could be a breach of her human rights.

Just a few thoughts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been outed in a previous job and was worried about the consequences so I manned up and went to h.r. they hadn't had to deal with anything like it before so sent me away while they looked into it. Their conclutions were it didn't effect my job and wasn't ileagal so was nothing do with them.

I'm guessing if she has lost her job it may be due to her reaction rather than anything else.

Maybe she has a claim."

Not really if it was eord on shop floor an boss pulled her in try going for sexual harrasment as you thought it was leading that way he wants to know ins amnout of you Sex Life. Deffo seek legal advice

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey


"Full details required but some contracts have a clause in them about bringing the profession into disrepute but solid proof would be required."

This

I have this clause in my contract....

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Full details required but some contracts have a clause in them about bringing the profession into disrepute but solid proof would be required.

This

I have this clause in my contract...."

Yep and people are going off half cock here with only sketchy details.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"My lady was today brought in on a disciplinary for being on here and our lifestyle. Being the feisty cow she is she told them where to go. Has any others ever encountered this?

Cheers "

Did they actually lay out the type of disciplinary, was she informed that her union rep, colleague or friend could accompany her, was it formal or off the record, who called her in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think just about everyone at my work knows. From shop floor up to directors!

Two other (now ex) employees have since joined fab!

All ever happens is I get a few giggles n questions about my weekends.

It's not illegal and doesn't affect my job....so I was never worried about them finding out.

I even introduced a customer to the site...she never looked back either!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who says that they have brought the company into disrepute? Can they prove that? If they were going to hold a disaplinary she could claim that she felt the she had no option other than to walked to prevent being sacked. If they are going through a disaplinary process then they have already seemed that it is going to be a foregone conclusion.

It is a great shame she didn't take a lawyer in as a personal representive which you are allowed to do.

Could be a breach of her human right to not be allowed to expess herself sexually in a non illegal way in her personal free time. You could argue that it is no different to being on a singles dating website where she would be free to shag anyone she met on the website or in the pub on a Friday night and would be beyond reproach as a single person. It could be argued that she is being victimised due to her relationship status. Again that could be a breach of her human rights.

Just a few thoughts"

This they have to prove it brings the business into disrepute. Push it see what happens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She works in retail "

No changing rooms were involved were they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody hell can't believe this has happened. Defiantly grounds for unfair dismissal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best advice was earlier on, get legal assistance. So far info given leads to everything from they were right to sack her through to she has a case for constructive dismissal. Union rep or legal advice & full disclosure of what was said on both sides and contract of employment.

Good luck though, shouldn't have to worry about decent legal behaviour effecting your employment!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Companies promote themselves as being this or that to the public. They, if pursuing the reputational damage line,will try to prove that public knowledge of her behaviour is at odds with the company ethos.Hence she is causing them reputational damage.

As I stated above there have been instances of tribunals ruling in favour of companies taking this line.

Only the op knows the full details of the company stance but they would need to seek legal advice.

There is nothing illegal about her behavour per say but that does not mean she has not breached company policy.

Those posting face pics or making their ids known on this site would do well to read their contracts of employment before doing so.

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By *ratty_DamselWoman
over a year ago

Greater London

Seek legal advice asap. Bloody ridiculous.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Best advice was earlier on, get legal assistance. So far info given leads to everything from they were right to sack her through to she has a case for constructive dismissal. Union rep or legal advice & full disclosure of what was said on both sides and contract of employment.

Good luck though, shouldn't have to worry about decent legal behaviour effecting your employment!"

Yes, very good points made. I agree considering the shocking cover ups that have gone on in institutions people like us shouldn't need to be worried.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

Not sure how so many of you can say her employer is in the wrong, when no details have been given.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My lady was today brought in on a disciplinary for being on here and our lifestyle. Being the feisty cow she is she told them where to go. Has any others ever encountered this?

Cheers "
I know there has been a few white night comments on here, I don't want to sound against her so.....

did she use fab in work time?

did she use company property?

was she sacked or did she walk?

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

When I worked for a well known pet retailer, I was called in to note take on a disciplinary for a girl who was seen on one of the online porn sites in her work uniform, she would have been fine, but The Sun got hold of the story and put it on the front page, obviously a slow news day.

Sales went through the roof, mainly from men wanting to see the 'totty from the porno', and she was promoted a month or so later.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

on a semi related note how many of you rent you home?

How many of you have checked your tenancy agreement for the "must not be used for immoral purposes" clause

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sales went through the roof, mainly from men wanting to see the 'totty from the porno', and she was promoted a month or so later.

Were all walking the dog? Probably doggers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How long has she been employed by the company... If it's less than two years she has no rights as such and so cannot go for unfair dismissal. I lost my previous job and was told simply that it wasn't working out and that was so they needed to say as I'd only been there 9 months. I suspect it was because the wife of a couple I met sent an email to my boss saying I was inviting customers to view my profile, which I of course wasn't, but it wasn't very long after that I was shown the door so I'm guessing they didn't approve of my sex life!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If she is part of a Union, she should be able to get free legal help and a better understanding of where she stands. Many jobs, such as my line, teaching, have morality clauses, hence why many (inc me) can't show pics - take note some who complain about a reluctance to show pics readily. I also used to teach in a prison where we were warned off even using Facebook. So please, people, tread carefully

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By *antonkid1955Man
over a year ago

cardiff

It's your private life and as long as you don't bring your company and employers into disrepute then its no ones business but yours.You may well have grounds for constructive dismissal.. You should consult legal advice forthwith,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If she walked and told them where to go as in the original post she has no leg to stand on end of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's ridiculous sue there ass it's none of their business

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"That's ridiculous sue there ass it's none of their business "

If they feel that it getting out to clients etc could have a detrimental effect on their business then of course it's their business.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My lady was today brought in on a disciplinary for being on here and our lifestyle. Being the feisty cow she is she told them where to go. Has any others ever encountered this?

Cheers "

I Jez use to be in electrical retail and believe your wife's partner had no right to discipline her whatsoever, would be different if she was viewing the site on company computers but think she may have a case against them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My lady was today brought in on a disciplinary for being on here and our lifestyle. Being the feisty cow she is she told them where to go. Has any others ever encountered this?

Cheers "

Take the b@$t@rd$ to a tribunal!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My lady was today brought in on a disciplinary for being on here and our lifestyle. Being the feisty cow she is she told them where to go. Has any others ever encountered this?

Cheers "

I reiterate, go to her union. They will have a legal department that can handle the matter for free and will know if there is any morality clause in the contract. Please try it

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By *v_heatherTV/TS
over a year ago

Leeds

Also check your house insurance if you have legal protection as that often covers employment related stuff.

Leaving because you were threatened with an unjustified disciplinary hearing could still leave you with grounds for action (it would be constructive dismissal)

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Also check your house insurance if you have legal protection as that often covers employment related stuff.

Leaving because you were threatened with an unjustified disciplinary hearing could still leave you with grounds for action (it would be constructive dismissal)"

A disciplinary hearing can't be deemed unjustified if it hasn't been heard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

you should seek legal advice. There are certain grounds for disciplinary proceedures and being sexually active with different partners is not grounds for one. Unless you have a job that ppl look up to you i.e. teacher, social worker, etc., see a solicitor straight away and sort it out xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like a breach of the discrimination act to me. But if they want to get funny. They could hold what your mrs said at the hearing against her. I would say they have been just looking for a reason to get rid of her for what ever reason. Still not good conduct which ever way you look at it. You can't sack anyone for being gay so why do they think they can because you are swingers. They can't. Simple.

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By *eandmrsjones1Couple
over a year ago

Dublin


"Oh, if you walked out as opposed to being sacked, you may have actually shot yourself in the foot... x"

Constructive dismissal, you don't have to be sacked, if you are left with no option but to leave, they have effectively sacked you.

An interview about your legal, private sex life, could indeed be viewed as constructive dismissal.

If pictures published on this site were taken in the workplace that's a different story.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shouldnt have blocked the floor manager !

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"My lady was today brought in on a disciplinary for being on here and our lifestyle. Being the feisty cow she is she told them where to go. Has any others ever encountered this?

Cheers "

define 'a disciplinary'..?

was it a 'fact finding' exercise by whomever?

also just how did she tell them where to go? What was actually said by her to I assume a manager..?

without any sort of clarification how can anyone give any response ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How long has she been employed by the company... If it's less than two years she has no rights as such and so cannot go for unfair dismissal. "

It's actually only 12 months . The 2 years is more relevant to redundancy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I am T the person in question and just felt I had to clear what appears to have got out of hand. gossip was overheard about me being in the site I was advised that this could cause problems with my work due to being underminded by my staff as I'm in a management role. I told him if that happens then he could look at disciplinary but until then it was none of his business but just okay ground gossip that will blow over when they get bored as there will be no reaction from me over it as I'm not bothered

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

John was a social worker and was sacked for similar, if you work as a carer, nurse, doctor, teacher, councillor or any other job like these your job will be at risk if caught swinging.

Employers think of swinging as seedy and derogatory, they think it could taint them if a problem occurs and it becomes public of what lifestyle their workers led.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"on a semi related note how many of you rent you home?

How many of you have checked your tenancy agreement for the "must not be used for immoral purposes" clause "

Since when, other than to certain religious zealots, has consensual sex been immoral?

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By *hris148Man
over a year ago

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"I am T the person in question and just felt I had to clear what appears to have got out of hand. gossip was overheard about me being in the site I was advised that this could cause problems with my work due to being underminded by my staff as I'm in a management role. I told him if that happens then he could look at disciplinary but until then it was none of his business but just okay ground gossip that will blow over when they get bored as there will be no reaction from me over it as I'm not bothered "

I actually think your boss should be supporting you by doing a staff briefing about bullying and harassment to get the message across to staff that they shouldn't be gossiping and it is inappropriate behaviour to discuss other peoples sexual activity. It doesn't matter it is about a co worker or a manager it is not acceptable and the person saying things should be disciplined, not the person being talked about.

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

Sounds like unfair dismissal.

Also agree with others, why was the boss on fab?, looking for bit on the side themselves, non of his business what you do outwith work.

I believe you CAN get disciplined at work for "bad-mouthing" the company you work for etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If she was using the company computer to check her account it is probably grounds for dismissal.

I'd sack her myself if she was being that daft lol

It is surprising what some people look at on their work computer. A lot of companies have security systems which allow them to see everything you have looked at and everything you have typed.

Just because you are in your own email account, doesn't make it private. If you are on a work computer your employer could be looking at all of your 'private' surfing and messages."

yep can't be doing that in your lunch time fag time anytime

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood


"If she was using the company computer to check her account it is probably grounds for dismissal.

I'd sack her myself if she was being that daft lol

It is surprising what some people look at on their work computer. A lot of companies have security systems which allow them to see everything you have looked at and everything you have typed.

Just because you are in your own email account, doesn't make it private. If you

are on a work computer your employer could be looking at all of your 'private' surfing and messages.

yep can't be doing that in your lunch time fag time anytime

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Oh well IF your using the work computer then I can see how that could get you into Trouble, but you'd think the company would but a "block" on certain sites.

If your using your own computer/phone to use fab sites then it should be fine in your own time and defo outwith work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am T the person in question and just felt I had to clear what appears to have got out of hand. gossip was overheard about me being in the site I was advised that this could cause problems with my work due to being underminded by my staff as I'm in a management role. I told him if that happens then he could look at disciplinary but until then it was none of his business but just okay ground gossip that will blow over when they get bored as there will be no reaction from me over it as I'm not bothered "

Ok I'm confused. Because that sounds nothing like the opening post. Doesn't sound like a disciplinary meeting to me.. Or that you walked out And certainly doesn't sound like you were 'sacked'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If she sold pool tables I think we may have a clue on how the boss got to find out

That was at my work and it was gossip on the shop floor that sparked the interview"

Is it just me but reading that says to me the pool table that she has pics of in their profile was at her work ?

If so no wonder she got sacked

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By *oole2010Couple
over a year ago

southampto

There was a precedent set a few years ago

A woman paramedic for the south wales ambulance service featured heavily in the itv programme filmed at hedonism 2 in jamaica the bosses i think they theatened to sack her or did sack her the union got the judgement that as long as it didnt affect her work her pastimes out of work were of no concern to her employers

Check it out online if you can find it

To this date i think she still works there hope that helps

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley


"I am T the person in question and just felt I had to clear what appears to have got out of hand. gossip was overheard about me being in the site I was advised that this could cause problems with my work due to being underminded by my staff as I'm in a management role. I told him if that happens then he could look at disciplinary but until then it was none of his business but just okay ground gossip that will blow over when they get bored as there will be no reaction from me over it as I'm not bothered

Ok I'm confused. Because that sounds nothing like the opening post. Doesn't sound like a disciplinary meeting to me.. Or that you walked out And certainly doesn't sound like you were 'sacked'

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I am T the person in question and just felt I had to clear what appears to have got out of hand. gossip was overheard about me being in the site I was advised that this could cause problems with my work due to being underminded by my staff as I'm in a management role. I told him if that happens then he could look at disciplinary but until then it was none of his business but just okay ground gossip that will blow over when they get bored as there will be no reaction from me over it as I'm not bothered

Ok I'm confused. Because that sounds nothing like the opening post. Doesn't sound like a disciplinary meeting to me.. Or that you walked out And certainly doesn't sound like you were 'sacked'

"

I'm confused too: two different stories.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree with all the advice about lawyers. I wish I worked with such horny people; I'd probably promote her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody hell it's like chinese whispers! Where are people getting their 'facts' from?!

She was shagging on the work's pool table while using a work's computer to go on Fab and asking workmates to join them at a swinging club while wearing a banana outfit.

Errr no!!!!!!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Bloody hell it's like chinese whispers! Where are people getting their 'facts' from?!

She was shagging on the work's pool table while using a work's computer to go on Fab and asking workmates to join them at a swinging club while wearing a banana outfit.

Errr no!!!!!!"

I've watched the development of this one with some amusement, your version is about right I reckon

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Well from my original post it did seem to take a random tangent but got some good advice along the way. Any cyber pool table loving management about? ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bloody hell it's like chinese whispers! Where are people getting their 'facts' from?!

She was shagging on the work's pool table while using a work's computer to go on Fab and asking workmates to join them at a swinging club while wearing a banana outfit.

Errr no!!!!!!

I've watched the development of this one with some amusement, your version is about right I reckon "
iv got to agree here, it reads like she has now been pulled aside and spoken to of record (which could have been to show support and help?) There is no mention of a dis hearing and nothing mentioned about sacking, 70% of the posters on here jumped straight on the bandwagon without reading the facts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thats as maybe, but what the post has highlighted is that many people are oblivious to the impact their lifestyle choice may have on their careers.

There seems to be an argument that "its my life , its none of their busines" when infact contracts of employment may well enable companies to make it their business.

Not in every case of course, bur for warned is for armed

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I am T the person in question and just felt I had to clear what appears to have got out of hand. gossip was overheard about me being in the site I was advised that this could cause problems with my work due to being underminded by my staff as I'm in a management role. I told him if that happens then he could look at disciplinary but until then it was none of his business but just okay ground gossip that will blow over when they get bored as there will be no reaction from me over it as I'm not bothered

Ok I'm confused. Because that sounds nothing like the opening post. Doesn't sound like a disciplinary meeting to me.. Or that you walked out And certainly doesn't sound like you were 'sacked'

I'm confused too: two different stories. "

this..

hey ho..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If she has been on Fab on a works computer then there may be grounds for disciplinary actions (warning etc) if the usage policy covers adult sites, but most companies block adult sites anyway.

I would challenge as it's your private life and is in no way in conflict with work

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


" 70% of the posters on here jumped straight on the bandwagon without reading the facts "

True, but the title of the thread is 'Sacked for swinging'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She should go for constructive dismissal however be prepared for your swinging lifestyle to be made public and all the press you could get.

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By *eard-lincolnMan
over a year ago

near lincoln

Im a manager for one of the worlds largest companies and everyone knows my personal life. And no one cares as it doesn't effect work. There are no grounds for dismissal . Unless the company name has been used or mentioned to promote what has been going on.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

from what I can tell reading the whole thread the lady hasn't been sacked or subject to any form of disciplinary procedure. She has had a conversation with her managers...or am I going completely balmy?

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By *adja_lazloCouple
over a year ago

Solihull


"from what I can tell reading the whole thread the lady hasn't been sacked or subject to any form of disciplinary procedure. She has had a conversation with her managers...or am I going completely balmy?"

think the phrase was stick it up your arse lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

See a solicitor if you think you have grounds for a case. I doubt that the company you worked with would want the publicity, so you may be fortunate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am T the person in question and just felt I had to clear what appears to have got out of hand. gossip was overheard about me being in the site I was advised that this could cause problems with my work due to being underminded by my staff as I'm in a management role. I told him if that happens then he could look at disciplinary but until then it was none of his business but just okay ground gossip that will blow over when they get bored as there will be no reaction from me over it as I'm not bothered "

This. It depends on how gossip is treated by people and employers. Unfortunately, it's a fact of life and human nature that any juicy gossip in any walks of life spreads like wildfire and can affect people's lives.

I had a male colleague at work accidently open a unisex toilet whilst I was sitting on the loo without realising that I hadn't locked the door properly. He didn't see anything and we both laughed it off afterwards. However, the other person on the shift told the rest of the department and my colleague was questioned by the manager. I only found out about it from another staff member. I took the moral high ground and ignored it and like any gossip, it soon blows over. At least they were giving someone else a break.

P

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By *atasha_DavidCouple
over a year ago

Slough


"

It is a great shame she didn't take a lawyer in as a personal representive which you are allowed to do.

"

No your not. Family members, lawyers and members of a union you are not a member of are all prohibited under ACAS guidelines

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"See a solicitor if you think you have grounds for a case. I doubt that the company you worked with would want the publicity, so you may be fortunate.

"

see a solicitor about what?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

People! You need to read the entire thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You know when the football is on and everyone thinks they know what they are talking about?

Same seems to apply here!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"

You know when the football is on and everyone thinks they know what they are talking about?

Same seems to apply here!"

Lol! I have to admit that I have no idea when it comes to football but I do know a band wagon when I see one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Check out the Human Rights Act, particularly the stuff about personal privacy and the right to a private life. If she's left the company, she could try for constructive dismissal - go to your local CAB.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Specifically, the Act's Article 8 "Right to a private and family life."

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"People! You need to read the entire thread."

Like that would ever happen!

A

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"How long has she been employed by the company... If it's less than two years she has no rights as such and so cannot go for unfair dismissal. I lost my previous job and was told simply that it wasn't working out and that was so they needed to say as I'd only been there 9 months. I suspect it was because the wife of a couple I met sent an email to my boss saying I was inviting customers to view my profile, which I of course wasn't, but it wasn't very long after that I was shown the door so I'm guessing they didn't approve of my sex life!"

not quite true,

Its more about the contract, if you are on a temporary contract, whether this be month to month, or 3 monthly, 6 monthly or whatever they can basically end it at anytime, but if you have a full time contract, regardless of the time you have been there, you then have the basic employees rights, meaning they must stick by the contract aswell as you, but acas will tell you all about your employees rights.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People! You need to read the entire thread."

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"People! You need to read the entire thread.

Like that would ever happen!

A"

Yea, I don't know what I was thinking.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"People! You need to read the entire thread.

Like that would ever happen!

A

Yea, I don't know what I was thinking. "

Common sense on POETS day?

Shocking!!

A

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Even after reading the later posts by OP I'm still none the wiser as to whether they were sacked or quit.

Also, as a sidenote, whenever I see someone describe themselves as 'feisty' I put them in a similar bracket to those that claim they have 'a big personality' etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People! You need to read the entire thread."

This

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Even after reading the later posts by OP I'm still none the wiser as to whether they were sacked or quit.

Also, as a sidenote, whenever I see someone describe themselves as 'feisty' I put them in a similar bracket to those that claim they have 'a big personality' etc "

I don't think the lady has been sacked or quit.

A personality analysis wasn't required or necessary.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"People! You need to read the entire thread.

This "

Hello frill,, alright?

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"Even after reading the later posts by OP I'm still none the wiser as to whether they were sacked or quit.

Also, as a sidenote, whenever I see someone describe themselves as 'feisty' I put them in a similar bracket to those that claim they have 'a big personality' etc

I don't think the lady has been sacked or quit.

A personality analysis wasn't required or necessary."

Almost every post on the forums isn't required or necessary but if you're putting information out there then it's likely to attract comment.

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


"

Almost every post on the forums isn't required or necessary "

Almost ?

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"

Almost every post on the forums isn't required or necessary

Almost ? "

Good point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Almost every post on the forums isn't required or necessary

Almost ? "

Yes, but keep them coming, it helps us fill our block list. Easy way to ID the MoodHoovers on here!!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"People! You need to read the entire thread."

this..

for flips sake some of you may want to check your own contract of employment perhaps..

surprised no one mentioned Rumpole..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rumpole would be good, better than all these wannabee Judge Judy's!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am T the person in question and just felt I had to clear what appears to have got out of hand. gossip was overheard about me being in the site I was advised that this could cause problems with my work due to being underminded by my staff as I'm in a management role. I told him if that happens then he could look at disciplinary but until then it was none of his business but just okay ground gossip that will blow over when they get bored as there will be no reaction from me over it as I'm not bothered "

A great shame, we don't know you but can imagine you are very good at your job and that's all your employer should base any decisions on. We wish you the best of luck in resolving this.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Rumpole would be good, better than all these wannabee Judge Judy's!!"

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By *ptimusDMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Not knowing the full details & only hearing the OP's partner's side of the story, it's difficult to say where she stands.

But generally speaking, companies rarely fall foul of dismissal issues these days and they do tend to tread carefully around these things.

That being said, if she was using the company's computer to check her profile, or checking her profile in company time, or openly discussing her swinging activities with colleagues while at work or uploaded a picture of her in company uniform on fab, etc etc, they will have grounds to dismiss her.

If on the other hand she was made to face a disciplinary for swinging in her private time and didn't involve the company in anyway in her activities that has put the company in a less than reputable light, then they're on very shaky ground for even asking her to a disciplinary.

Whilst her walking out of the hearing and telling them where to go wasn't clever, she can still claim constructive dismissal, if they had no grounds in the first place to dismiss her.

Like I said it's difficult to say not knowing all the facts, but I'll be very surprised if the company actually asked her to a disciplinary if they didn't have solid grounds to do so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely this could also affect anyone in our armed forces who post pics of themselves in uniform. When Tracy and I were in the RAF such action was classed as bringing the service into disrupt.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Not knowing the full details & only hearing the OP's partner's side of the story, it's difficult to say where she stands.

But generally speaking, companies rarely fall foul of dismissal issues these days and they do tend to tread carefully around these things.

That being said, if she was using the company's computer to check her profile, or checking her profile in company time, or openly discussing her swinging activities with colleagues while at work or uploaded a picture of her in company uniform on fab, etc etc, they will have grounds to dismiss her.

If on the other hand she was made to face a disciplinary for swinging in her private time and didn't involve the company in anyway in her activities that has put the company in a less than reputable light, then they're on very shaky ground for even asking her to a disciplinary.

Whilst her walking out of the hearing and telling them where to go wasn't clever, she can still claim constructive dismissal, if they had no grounds in the first place to dismiss her.

Like I said it's difficult to say not knowing all the facts, but I'll be very surprised if the company actually asked her to a disciplinary if they didn't have solid grounds to do so."

but none of what you have just said has happened. She hasn't walked out of a hearing.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"

Almost every post on the forums isn't required or necessary

Almost ?

Yes, but keep them coming, it helps us fill our block list. Easy way to ID the MoodHoovers on here!!"

oh! I'm glad you appreciate irony

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People! You need to read the entire thread.

This

Hello frill,, alright?"

Been better xx

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"People! You need to read the entire thread.

This

Hello frill,, alright?

Been better xx"

Oh? S'up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bloody hell it's like chinese whispers! Where are people getting their 'facts' from?!

She was shagging on the work's pool table while using a work's computer to go on Fab and asking workmates to join them at a swinging club while wearing a banana outfit.

Errr no!!!!!!"

I'm sorry to be laughing at a messy situations but that post really made me chortle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Almost every post on the forums isn't required or necessary

Almost ?

Yes, but keep them coming, it helps us fill our block list. Easy way to ID the MoodHoovers on here!!"

What on earth are MoodHoovers?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bloody hell it's like chinese whispers! Where are people getting their 'facts' from?!"

Why confuse a good thread with facts? OP you have a couple of photo's on the public side of the profile that could be identified second one in would require someone who has seen the room it was taken is (presuming it's your home) but nothing that could be 100% certain, so I am guessing it wasn't random browsing that brought this profile to the companies attention.

Don't know if you have a case or not, you will need to sit down and reconstruct all the facts and look them over calmly even a "feisty walkout" could be got around with a simple apology and hint at constructive dismissal if they were interviewing her about private matters she has not been openly talking about at work.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"

Almost every post on the forums isn't required or necessary

Almost ?

Yes, but keep them coming, it helps us fill our block list. Easy way to ID the MoodHoovers on here!!

What on earth are MoodHoovers?! "

Who knows but I'm very interested in the answer

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Bloody hell it's like chinese whispers! Where are people getting their 'facts' from?!

Why confuse a good thread with facts? OP you have a couple of photo's on the public side of the profile that could be identified second one in would require someone who has seen the room it was taken is (presuming it's your home) but nothing that could be 100% certain, so I am guessing it wasn't random browsing that brought this profile to the companies attention.

Don't know if you have a case or not, you will need to sit down and reconstruct all the facts and look them over calmly even a "feisty walkout" could be got around with a simple apology and hint at constructive dismissal if they were interviewing her about private matters she has not been openly talking about at work."

But she hasn't been sac..........oh never

mind.

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

Need to know basis


"My lady was today brought in on a disciplinary for being on here and our lifestyle. Being the feisty cow she is she told them where to go. Has any others ever encountered this?

Cheers "

Unreal and impossible in this thin and unbelievable scenario!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Not knowing the full details & only hearing the OP's partner's side of the story, it's difficult to say where she stands.

But generally speaking, companies rarely fall foul of dismissal issues these days and they do tend to tread carefully around these things.

That being said, if she was using the company's computer to check her profile, or checking her profile in company time, or openly discussing her swinging activities with colleagues while at work or uploaded a picture of her in company uniform on fab, etc etc, they will have grounds to dismiss her.

If on the other hand she was made to face a disciplinary for swinging in her private time and didn't involve the company in anyway in her activities that has put the company in a less than reputable light, then they're on very shaky ground for even asking her to a disciplinary.

Whilst her walking out of the hearing and telling them where to go wasn't clever, she can still claim constructive dismissal, if they had no grounds in the first place to dismiss her.

Like I said it's difficult to say not knowing all the facts, but I'll be very surprised if the company actually asked her to a disciplinary if they didn't have solid grounds to do so.

but none of what you have just said has happened. She hasn't walked out of a hearing. "

dash it Watson do you mean its all maybe if, what if and could have with no foundation at all..

bugger..

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By *hefockkersMan
over a year ago

york

ACAS will do all the footwork, you just need to order the new car and pick up the holiday brochures, they don't do that for you. Perhaps an annomous word with a large newspaper would give them some welcome advertising for which you can claim the credit after the compensation. We're jealous!

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


"

What on earth are MoodHoovers?! "

People who suck the fun out of everything

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

Need to know basis

I smell a 'look at me' thread!! And the worst I've ever seen. Get the company handbook out, read the laws mate.

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"I smell a 'look at me' thread!! And the worst I've ever seen. Get the company handbook out, read the laws mate. "

Have to agree, in the absence of further and more detailed information what company or other organisation can tell you how to conduct your sex life or otherwise dictate your sexual preferences. This is NOT North Korea.

Would they stop you attending a gay pride march? Can they say you can't have affairs? Are you only allowed one girlfriend/boyfriend? Do you have to be polite and courteous to your spouse at all times? The list could go on and on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suppose the one thing we can be 100% sure of is that any thread will always degenerate into sarcasm and one upmanship.

If nothing else they are a study in human nature and all its foibles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I suppose the one thing we can be 100% sure of is that any thread will always degenerate into sarcasm and one upmanship.

If nothing else they are a study in human nature and all its foibles. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd stick the pool cue right up the bosses arse and I'd block him on the works competitor to stop him peeving at you but I guess it's not really wise to have sex in works time

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By *opping_candyWoman
over a year ago

West Yorkshire


"on a semi related note how many of you rent you home?

How many of you have checked your tenancy agreement for the "must not be used for immoral purposes" clause "

I rent my place from my aunt! We used a template tenancy agreement and I had a giggle at a clause called 'quiet enjoyment '!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"suggest seeking advice, and looking at wrongful dismissal, unless it specifically says in here contract she cannot swing then what people do in private lifes is nohing to do with employers unless its illegal!!!

This. If you'd said you worked with kids, I could see where it could get sticky but retail???

Your sex life is none of your employer's damn business!

I would seek legal advice."

Why would it get sticky if you worked with children, we are swingers not pedophiles!

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

Need to know basis


"I suppose the one thing we can be 100% sure of is that any thread will always degenerate into sarcasm and one upmanship.

If nothing else they are a study in human nature and all its foibles.

"

+

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I smell a 'look at me' thread!! And the worst I've ever seen. Get the company handbook out, read the laws mate.

Have to agree, in the absence of further and more detailed information what company or other organisation can tell you how to conduct your sex life or otherwise dictate your sexual preferences. This is NOT North Korea.

Would they stop you attending a gay pride march? Can they say you can't have affairs? Are you only allowed one girlfriend/boyfriend? Do you have to be polite and courteous to your spouse at all times? The list could go on and on."

You Really haven't read the thread have you lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"suggest seeking advice, and looking at wrongful dismissal, unless it specifically says in here contract she cannot swing then what people do in private lifes is nohing to do with employers unless its illegal!!!

This. If you'd said you worked with kids, I could see where it could get sticky but retail???

Your sex life is none of your employer's damn business!

I would seek legal advice.

Why would it get sticky if you worked with children, we are swingers not pedophiles! "

My thoughts exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can the OP confirm whether she has been sacked or not??

Was a disciplinary given or was it just words of advice???

People are putting two and two together here and getting twenty seven!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can the OP confirm whether she has been sacked or not??

Was a disciplinary given or was it just words of advice???

People are putting two and two together here and getting twenty seven!"
this x10 about a hundred posts since ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

What on earth are MoodHoovers?!

People who suck the fun out of everything"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How long has she been employed by the company... If it's less than two years she has no rights as such and so cannot go for unfair dismissal. I lost my previous job and was told simply that it wasn't working out and that was so they needed to say as I'd only been there 9 months. I suspect it was because the wife of a couple I met sent an email to my boss saying I was inviting customers to view my profile, which I of course wasn't, but it wasn't very long after that I was shown the door so I'm guessing they didn't approve of my sex life!

not quite true,

Its more about the contract, if you are on a temporary contract, whether this be month to month, or 3 monthly, 6 monthly or whatever they can basically end it at anytime, but if you have a full time contract, regardless of the time you have been there, you then have the basic employees rights, meaning they must stick by the contract aswell as you, but acas will tell you all about your employees rights."

Citizens advice and an employment lawyer confirmed that until working for the company for 2 years they could terminate my contract at any time without any warnings or disciplinary procedure...or indeed giving me a reason for it. And I wasn't the first person they had done it to as a lot of agencies in the sector I work in didn't even question it when I said where I'd been sacked from.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So many unknowns and questions.....to make a logical case for either..

However these days its not so easy to get rid of staff unless blatant case of gross misconduct..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

What on earth are MoodHoovers?!

People who suck the fun out of everything"

Aha, thank you!

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts


"Why would it get sticky if you worked with children, we are swingers not pedophiles! "

Because those sort of roles tend to have clauses in the contract. - There have been cases in the past where teenagers or parents of children have found out that their teacher/their child's teacher is into this, that or the other and it gets blown all out.

If parents start a move/petition to get a teacher/carer sacked, the schools are often under severe pressure to oblige. x

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By *omMLMan
over a year ago

The Centre of the Universe

Anyone not in a union who feels they have been treated unfairly at work can use the Citizens Advice Bureau for free.

And I just love feisty women. ??

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"How long has she been employed by the company... If it's less than two years she has no rights as such and so cannot go for unfair dismissal. I lost my previous job and was told simply that it wasn't working out and that was so they needed to say as I'd only been there 9 months. I suspect it was because the wife of a couple I met sent an email to my boss saying I was inviting customers to view my profile, which I of course wasn't, but it wasn't very long after that I was shown the door so I'm guessing they didn't approve of my sex life!

not quite true,

Its more about the contract, if you are on a temporary contract, whether this be month to month, or 3 monthly, 6 monthly or whatever they can basically end it at anytime, but if you have a full time contract, regardless of the time you have been there, you then have the basic employees rights, meaning they must stick by the contract aswell as you, but acas will tell you all about your employees rights.

Citizens advice and an employment lawyer confirmed that until working for the company for 2 years they could terminate my contract at any time without any warnings or disciplinary procedure...or indeed giving me a reason for it. And I wasn't the first person they had done it to as a lot of agencies in the sector I work in didn't even question it when I said where I'd been sacked from."

What contract were you on, acas will tell you the truth, unless its in the contract that they can dismiss for you without reason, and you have signed said contract, they cannot just terminate a full time contract without good reason, no matter how long you have had that full time contract, if they do then its unfair dismissal, to which you have a rightful claim, acas will tell you this and put you on the right track to pursuing it.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"How long has she been employed by the company... If it's less than two years she has no rights as such and so cannot go for unfair dismissal. I lost my previous job and was told simply that it wasn't working out and that was so they needed to say as I'd only been there 9 months. I suspect it was because the wife of a couple I met sent an email to my boss saying I was inviting customers to view my profile, which I of course wasn't, but it wasn't very long after that I was shown the door so I'm guessing they didn't approve of my sex life!

not quite true,

Its more about the contract, if you are on a temporary contract, whether this be month to month, or 3 monthly, 6 monthly or whatever they can basically end it at anytime, but if you have a full time contract, regardless of the time you have been there, you then have the basic employees rights, meaning they must stick by the contract aswell as you, but acas will tell you all about your employees rights.

Citizens advice and an employment lawyer confirmed that until working for the company for 2 years they could terminate my contract at any time without any warnings or disciplinary procedure...or indeed giving me a reason for it. And I wasn't the first person they had done it to as a lot of agencies in the sector I work in didn't even question it when I said where I'd been sacked from."

ah sorry were you employed through an agency, thats totally different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How long has she been employed by the company... If it's less than two years she has no rights as such and so cannot go for unfair dismissal. I lost my previous job and was told simply that it wasn't working out and that was so they needed to say as I'd only been there 9 months. I suspect it was because the wife of a couple I met sent an email to my boss saying I was inviting customers to view my profile, which I of course wasn't, but it wasn't very long after that I was shown the door so I'm guessing they didn't approve of my sex life!

not quite true,

Its more about the contract, if you are on a temporary contract, whether this be month to month, or 3 monthly, 6 monthly or whatever they can basically end it at anytime, but if you have a full time contract, regardless of the time you have been there, you then have the basic employees rights, meaning they must stick by the contract aswell as you, but acas will tell you all about your employees rights.

Citizens advice and an employment lawyer confirmed that until working for the company for 2 years they could terminate my contract at any time without any warnings or disciplinary procedure...or indeed giving me a reason for it. And I wasn't the first person they had done it to as a lot of agencies in the sector I work in didn't even question it when I said where I'd been sacked from.

What contract were you on, acas will tell you the truth, unless its in the contract that they can dismiss for you without reason, and you have signed said contract, they cannot just terminate a full time contract without good reason, no matter how long you have had that full time contract, if they do then its unfair dismissal, to which you have a rightful claim, acas will tell you this and put you on the right track to pursuing it."

They can in the first two years... Trust me it happened to me, it's not something I'm saying for effect! I sought advice and was told by a few different bodies and even spoke to a couple of hr managers. This company have done it to more than a few people I have since found out... Doubt they'd keep getting away with it if it was something they couldn't do!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How long has she been employed by the company... If it's less than two years she has no rights as such and so cannot go for unfair dismissal. I lost my previous job and was told simply that it wasn't working out and that was so they needed to say as I'd only been there 9 months. I suspect it was because the wife of a couple I met sent an email to my boss saying I was inviting customers to view my profile, which I of course wasn't, but it wasn't very long after that I was shown the door so I'm guessing they didn't approve of my sex life!

not quite true,

Its more about the contract, if you are on a temporary contract, whether this be month to month, or 3 monthly, 6 monthly or whatever they can basically end it at anytime, but if you have a full time contract, regardless of the time you have been there, you then have the basic employees rights, meaning they must stick by the contract aswell as you, but acas will tell you all about your employees rights.

Citizens advice and an employment lawyer confirmed that until working for the company for 2 years they could terminate my contract at any time without any warnings or disciplinary procedure...or indeed giving me a reason for it. And I wasn't the first person they had done it to as a lot of agencies in the sector I work in didn't even question it when I said where I'd been sacked from.

ah sorry were you employed through an agency, thats totally different."

No, I was on a full time contract and had passed my probationary period. I went to agencies afterwards to find work and had to explain to them why I was let go from my previous job and couldn't actually give them a reason as I wasn't given one, I only have my suspicions

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By *abcouple11Couple
over a year ago

Truro


"I suspect the employer will be citing reputational damage as the reason. ...."

Silliness - no sound group of people who stand on their own two feet and represent a good solid well-guided Company would follow such a pathetic course.

Serious point though. Companys need to protect themselves by having a privacy policy. It needs to say it is serious summarily dismissable offence to reveal someone else's private life kept reasonably private which they come across. It also needs to say the details of a private life kept reasonably private, even if its activities might be "looked on in askance", is unlikely to ever be a matter the company has any opinion upon. The privacy policy needs to say that the investigation into who revealed someone else's private life takes precedence and no action will be taken on the allegation unless and until the allegator is identified (spoiler - defeat the "office politics" you want to discourage).

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"How long has she been employed by the company... If it's less than two years she has no rights as such and so cannot go for unfair dismissal. I lost my previous job and was told simply that it wasn't working out and that was so they needed to say as I'd only been there 9 months. I suspect it was because the wife of a couple I met sent an email to my boss saying I was inviting customers to view my profile, which I of course wasn't, but it wasn't very long after that I was shown the door so I'm guessing they didn't approve of my sex life!

not quite true,

Its more about the contract, if you are on a temporary contract, whether this be month to month, or 3 monthly, 6 monthly or whatever they can basically end it at anytime, but if you have a full time contract, regardless of the time you have been there, you then have the basic employees rights, meaning they must stick by the contract aswell as you, but acas will tell you all about your employees rights.

Citizens advice and an employment lawyer confirmed that until working for the company for 2 years they could terminate my contract at any time without any warnings or disciplinary procedure...or indeed giving me a reason for it. And I wasn't the first person they had done it to as a lot of agencies in the sector I work in didn't even question it when I said where I'd been sacked from.

What contract were you on, acas will tell you the truth, unless its in the contract that they can dismiss for you without reason, and you have signed said contract, they cannot just terminate a full time contract without good reason, no matter how long you have had that full time contract, if they do then its unfair dismissal, to which you have a rightful claim, acas will tell you this and put you on the right track to pursuing it.

They can in the first two years... Trust me it happened to me, it's not something I'm saying for effect! I sought advice and was told by a few different bodies and even spoke to a couple of hr managers. This company have done it to more than a few people I have since found out... Doubt they'd keep getting away with it if it was something they couldn't do!"

the only way they can get away with that is if its wrote into the contract that you sign, if it isnt wrote into it then in any industrial tribunal its unfair dismissal, every single worker is protected by certain basic rights, this been one of them, and if it wasnt covered in the contract you should have pursued it, I can only presume because you were advised the way you were, that there was something written in your contract.

aslong as you have a full time contract you are covered by basic workers rights.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How long has she been employed by the company... If it's less than two years she has no rights as such and so cannot go for unfair dismissal. I lost my previous job and was told simply that it wasn't working out and that was so they needed to say as I'd only been there 9 months. I suspect it was because the wife of a couple I met sent an email to my boss saying I was inviting customers to view my profile, which I of course wasn't, but it wasn't very long after that I was shown the door so I'm guessing they didn't approve of my sex life!

not quite true,

Its more about the contract, if you are on a temporary contract, whether this be month to month, or 3 monthly, 6 monthly or whatever they can basically end it at anytime, but if you have a full time contract, regardless of the time you have been there, you then have the basic employees rights, meaning they must stick by the contract aswell as you, but acas will tell you all about your employees rights.

Citizens advice and an employment lawyer confirmed that until working for the company for 2 years they could terminate my contract at any time without any warnings or disciplinary procedure...or indeed giving me a reason for it. And I wasn't the first person they had done it to as a lot of agencies in the sector I work in didn't even question it when I said where I'd been sacked from.

What contract were you on, acas will tell you the truth, unless its in the contract that they can dismiss for you without reason, and you have signed said contract, they cannot just terminate a full time contract without good reason, no matter how long you have had that full time contract, if they do then its unfair dismissal, to which you have a rightful claim, acas will tell you this and put you on the right track to pursuing it.

They can in the first two years... Trust me it happened to me, it's not something I'm saying for effect! I sought advice and was told by a few different bodies and even spoke to a couple of hr managers. This company have done it to more than a few people I have since found out... Doubt they'd keep getting away with it if it was something they couldn't do!

the only way they can get away with that is if its wrote into the contract that you sign, if it isnt wrote into it then in any industrial tribunal its unfair dismissal, every single worker is protected by certain basic rights, this been one of them, and if it wasnt covered in the contract you should have pursued it, I can only presume because you were advised the way you were, that there was something written in your contract.

aslong as you have a full time contract you are covered by basic workers rights."

Not sure if I can post links to the acas website on here so I haven't, but even that states that to claim for unfair dismissal you have to have been employed for 2 years (it was one year up until April 2012). Admittedly I was given a weeks 'notice', which is all I was entitled to after one months employment, but I was asked/told that I could gather my things and leave and I would be paid for the week. And like I have said, I did try to persue it but was told by people who are trained in employment law (which forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming you aren't) that there was no case to answer as I hadn't been there long enough to claim for unfair dismissal!

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"How long has she been employed by the company... If it's less than two years she has no rights as such and so cannot go for unfair dismissal. I lost my previous job and was told simply that it wasn't working out and that was so they needed to say as I'd only been there 9 months. I suspect it was because the wife of a couple I met sent an email to my boss saying I was inviting customers to view my profile, which I of course wasn't, but it wasn't very long after that I was shown the door so I'm guessing they didn't approve of my sex life!

not quite true,

Its more about the contract, if you are on a temporary contract, whether this be month to month, or 3 monthly, 6 monthly or whatever they can basically end it at anytime, but if you have a full time contract, regardless of the time you have been there, you then have the basic employees rights, meaning they must stick by the contract aswell as you, but acas will tell you all about your employees rights.

Citizens advice and an employment lawyer confirmed that until working for the company for 2 years they could terminate my contract at any time without any warnings or disciplinary procedure...or indeed giving me a reason for it. And I wasn't the first person they had done it to as a lot of agencies in the sector I work in didn't even question it when I said where I'd been sacked from.

What contract were you on, acas will tell you the truth, unless its in the contract that they can dismiss for you without reason, and you have signed said contract, they cannot just terminate a full time contract without good reason, no matter how long you have had that full time contract, if they do then its unfair dismissal, to which you have a rightful claim, acas will tell you this and put you on the right track to pursuing it.

They can in the first two years... Trust me it happened to me, it's not something I'm saying for effect! I sought advice and was told by a few different bodies and even spoke to a couple of hr managers. This company have done it to more than a few people I have since found out... Doubt they'd keep getting away with it if it was something they couldn't do!

the only way they can get away with that is if its wrote into the contract that you sign, if it isnt wrote into it then in any industrial tribunal its unfair dismissal, every single worker is protected by certain basic rights, this been one of them, and if it wasnt covered in the contract you should have pursued it, I can only presume because you were advised the way you were, that there was something written in your contract.

aslong as you have a full time contract you are covered by basic workers rights.

Not sure if I can post links to the acas website on here so I haven't, but even that states that to claim for unfair dismissal you have to have been employed for 2 years (it was one year up until April 2012). Admittedly I was given a weeks 'notice', which is all I was entitled to after one months employment, but I was asked/told that I could gather my things and leave and I would be paid for the week. And like I have said, I did try to persue it but was told by people who are trained in employment law (which forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming you aren't) that there was no case to answer as I hadn't been there long enough to claim for unfair dismissal!"

I (james) specialise in employement law, which is why this got my attention lol, even on a swingers site, we both work in law, acas wont put details on there site, or shouldnt, you need to contact them to discuss it, but there has never been a 2 year limit for unfair dismissal, unless like I said its written into the contract, or the contract isnt full time.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

I would say reputational damage would be difficult to prove as the sacking itself would draw more attention to the person than just letting them get on with their private lives.

Having said that, this is why we try not to post face pics too often as they do get around the internet porn world.

If I was the lady, if they call you in again, tape the meeting. Then you have something in your pocket for the next time they try something. In the end if they don't like it, then they may not try to sack because of swinging, but they may try to find any other excuse. Sick record, behavior at work etc,

Should not happen to anyone but some people just like to be nasty.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

I have won many unfair dismissal claims where people have been employed on a full time contract for various times under 2 years, as little as 6 weeks, it all depends whats in the contract.

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By *he. frayMan
over a year ago

fareham


"My lady was today brought in on a disciplinary for being on here and our lifestyle. Being the feisty cow she is she told them where to go. Has any others ever encountered this?

Cheers "

People your all getting carried away here!! read it again, the OP's wife was brought into a disciplinary hearing because she was found as being a member of Fabs, there is no mention she was dismissed, by the OP's own admission he said she is a "feisty cow and told them where to stick their job" which I would deem as she offered her resignation or more bluntly she told them she no longer wanted to work for them, where does unfair dismissal apply here?

The company may have wanted to caution her or to inform her that they did not approve and may have warned they wanted her to be discrete whilst at work as they did not want to be associated with her personal lifestyle.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

Im responding to someone elses posts, is that ok.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How long has she been employed by the company... If it's less than two years she has no rights as such and so cannot go for unfair dismissal. I lost my previous job and was told simply that it wasn't working out and that was so they needed to say as I'd only been there 9 months. I suspect it was because the wife of a couple I met sent an email to my boss saying I was inviting customers to view my profile, which I of course wasn't, but it wasn't very long after that I was shown the door so I'm guessing they didn't approve of my sex life!

not quite true,

Its more about the contract, if you are on a temporary contract, whether this be month to month, or 3 monthly, 6 monthly or whatever they can basically end it at anytime, but if you have a full time contract, regardless of the time you have been there, you then have the basic employees rights, meaning they must stick by the contract aswell as you, but acas will tell you all about your employees rights.

Citizens advice and an employment lawyer confirmed that until working for the company for 2 years they could terminate my contract at any time without any warnings or disciplinary procedure...or indeed giving me a reason for it. And I wasn't the first person they had done it to as a lot of agencies in the sector I work in didn't even question it when I said where I'd been sacked from.

What contract were you on, acas will tell you the truth, unless its in the contract that they can dismiss for you without reason, and you have signed said contract, they cannot just terminate a full time contract without good reason, no matter how long you have had that full time contract, if they do then its unfair dismissal, to which you have a rightful claim, acas will tell you this and put you on the right track to pursuing it.

They can in the first two years... Trust me it happened to me, it's not something I'm saying for effect! I sought advice and was told by a few different bodies and even spoke to a couple of hr managers. This company have done it to more than a few people I have since found out... Doubt they'd keep getting away with it if it was something they couldn't do!

the only way they can get away with that is if its wrote into the contract that you sign, if it isnt wrote into it then in any industrial tribunal its unfair dismissal, every single worker is protected by certain basic rights, this been one of them, and if it wasnt covered in the contract you should have pursued it, I can only presume because you were advised the way you were, that there was something written in your contract.

aslong as you have a full time contract you are covered by basic workers rights.

Not sure if I can post links to the acas website on here so I haven't, but even that states that to claim for unfair dismissal you have to have been employed for 2 years (it was one year up until April 2012). Admittedly I was given a weeks 'notice', which is all I was entitled to after one months employment, but I was asked/told that I could gather my things and leave and I would be paid for the week. And like I have said, I did try to persue it but was told by people who are trained in employment law (which forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming you aren't) that there was no case to answer as I hadn't been there long enough to claim for unfair dismissal!

I (james) specialise in employement law, which is why this got my attention lol, even on a swingers site, we both work in law, acas wont put details on there site, or shouldnt, you need to contact them to discuss it, but there has never been a 2 year limit for unfair dismissal, unless like I said its written into the contract, or the contract isnt full time."

Well it sounds like Citizens Advice and a number of employment lawyers in the Greater Manchester area need some training then as they all agree with what is stated on the Acas website:

'Employees have the right not to be unfairly dismissed. In most circumstances employees will need to qualify before they can make a complaint to an employment tribunal:

- at least one year's continuous service for employees in employment before 6th April 2012

- two years for employees starting employment on or after 6th April 2012.'

I'm not gonna keep going round this same circle with you though. When I was dismissed I took legal advice and went to Citizen's Advice...all agreed that what had happened was perfectly legal, as shitty as it was. Even the job centre had no issues with it when I had to go and sign on. So far you are the only person/people with legal/hr backgrounds who have said otherwise and I spoke to several...as did my Mum, Dad, Sister and a few friends.

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


" ...there is no mention she was dismissed... "

....apart from the title of the thread which proclaims she was sacked.

But I get the impression that was just attention seeking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the quicker this one hits 175 the better, iv never seen as many white knights and post skippers in any other post

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"the quicker this one hits 175 the better, iv never seen as many white knights and post skippers in any other post "

You could be right. Can understand the post skipping though. Does anyone REALLY want to, or have the time to, read all that nonsense?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the quicker this one hits 175 the better, iv never seen as many white knights and post skippers in any other post

You could be right. Can understand the post skipping though. Does anyone REALLY want to, or have the time to, read all that nonsense? "
probably not, but was it a dis hearing or just a few words she didn't like?? and she has not been sacked so how has there been any unfair dismissal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and sorry to the op and the lady in question, im certainly not judging youim just pointing out that the bandwagon will tip over its getting that full with folk that ignore the facts

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland


"How long has she been employed by the company... If it's less than two years she has no rights as such and so cannot go for unfair dismissal. I lost my previous job and was told simply that it wasn't working out and that was so they needed to say as I'd only been there 9 months. I suspect it was because the wife of a couple I met sent an email to my boss saying I was inviting customers to view my profile, which I of course wasn't, but it wasn't very long after that I was shown the door so I'm guessing they didn't approve of my sex life!

not quite true,

Its more about the contract, if you are on a temporary contract, whether this be month to month, or 3 monthly, 6 monthly or whatever they can basically end it at anytime, but if you have a full time contract, regardless of the time you have been there, you then have the basic employees rights, meaning they must stick by the contract aswell as you, but acas will tell you all about your employees rights.

Citizens advice and an employment lawyer confirmed that until working for the company for 2 years they could terminate my contract at any time without any warnings or disciplinary procedure...or indeed giving me a reason for it. And I wasn't the first person they had done it to as a lot of agencies in the sector I work in didn't even question it when I said where I'd been sacked from.

What contract were you on, acas will tell you the truth, unless its in the contract that they can dismiss for you without reason, and you have signed said contract, they cannot just terminate a full time contract without good reason, no matter how long you have had that full time contract, if they do then its unfair dismissal, to which you have a rightful claim, acas will tell you this and put you on the right track to pursuing it.

They can in the first two years... Trust me it happened to me, it's not something I'm saying for effect! I sought advice and was told by a few different bodies and even spoke to a couple of hr managers. This company have done it to more than a few people I have since found out... Doubt they'd keep getting away with it if it was something they couldn't do!

the only way they can get away with that is if its wrote into the contract that you sign, if it isnt wrote into it then in any industrial tribunal its unfair dismissal, every single worker is protected by certain basic rights, this been one of them, and if it wasnt covered in the contract you should have pursued it, I can only presume because you were advised the way you were, that there was something written in your contract.

aslong as you have a full time contract you are covered by basic workers rights.

Not sure if I can post links to the acas website on here so I haven't, but even that states that to claim for unfair dismissal you have to have been employed for 2 years (it was one year up until April 2012). Admittedly I was given a weeks 'notice', which is all I was entitled to after one months employment, but I was asked/told that I could gather my things and leave and I would be paid for the week. And like I have said, I did try to persue it but was told by people who are trained in employment law (which forgive me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming you aren't) that there was no case to answer as I hadn't been there long enough to claim for unfair dismissal!

I (james) specialise in employement law, which is why this got my attention lol, even on a swingers site, we both work in law, acas wont put details on there site, or shouldnt, you need to contact them to discuss it, but there has never been a 2 year limit for unfair dismissal, unless like I said its written into the contract, or the contract isnt full time.

Well it sounds like Citizens Advice and a number of employment lawyers in the Greater Manchester area need some training then as they all agree with what is stated on the Acas website:

'Employees have the right not to be unfairly dismissed. In most circumstances employees will need to qualify before they can make a complaint to an employment tribunal:

- at least one year's continuous service for employees in employment before 6th April 2012

- two years for employees starting employment on or after 6th April 2012.'

I'm not gonna keep going round this same circle with you though. When I was dismissed I took legal advice and went to Citizen's Advice...all agreed that what had happened was perfectly legal, as shitty as it was. Even the job centre had no issues with it when I had to go and sign on. So far you are the only person/people with legal/hr backgrounds who have said otherwise and I spoke to several...as did my Mum, Dad, Sister and a few friends."

like I said it depends on individual circumstances, I did not work on your case, I do not no all the details, it goes down to reading contracts and of course the companys own written legislation, without all the details for a certain case one cannot pass sincere judgement, im not saying the advice you were given was wrong, they had the details 1st hand in order to give that advice, what I am saying is that there is no rule set in stone that states any employer can terminate a full time contract within any given timescale without been considered unfair dismissal, I have won many of these cases, its down to individual circumstances and contracts.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

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"the quicker this one hits 175 the better, iv never seen as many white knights and post skippers in any other post "

I have been replying to another poster, it does happen on a forum.

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By *dventuroususCouple
over a year ago

sunderland

People get far to arsey with others replying.

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