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"I'd go and use a professional Dom with proper equipment. Say you're dipping your toe and he'll hopefully have the experience to get the best out you. Just my opinion, good luck " Didn't even know they existed! Thanks guys | |||
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"i think "dominant" is one of those weird words in swinging that people think actually says a lot, but in reality says very little because in a swinging context it is a "blah/meh" word that is very general.... if you know what you are looking for... tell people, or describe to people what your vision actually is! don't leave it to the other person to decipher because people are normally really shitty mind readers!!!!" I know roughly what I'm aiming for (assuming its a good choice for me). Essentially I want a fuck buddy that can do the whole dominant submissive relationship thing in the bedroom or wherever but I want my own life back when I'm not there. Off to google for professionals | |||
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"Unfortunately there are too many on here who claim to be dominant, me and my master are switch, but I'm his sub until I want to take charge" Don't think I've got the attitude for switching tbh, seems a little out of my depth | |||
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"Unfortunately there are too many on here who claim to be dominant, me and my master are switch, but I'm his sub until I want to take charge Don't think I've got the attitude for switching tbh, seems a little out of my depth" I always thought I was submissive but I found out the more I spoke to my master that I was more switch | |||
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"This is by no means chapter and verse on the subject but hopefully some useful pointers! You do need to be clear and defined on where the D/s aspect will start and end, for some they live their life 24/7 I. The lifestyle for others it's merely on a play level. You then also need to know limits hard and soft and of course safe words as in some scenarios stop doesn't mean a thing. A good Dom will talk you through all this and get the lay of the land and find out how you wish to proceed. A poor Dom will just bark out some orders thinking a slap round the face or bum is what you need and a few names while you suck his cock! Good luck in your search and hope the random ramblings help " They do help! At the moment all I'm finding in my area are mistresses. Given the complete absence of bisexuality I have, they aren't going to cut it lol | |||
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"So I'm looking to explore my naturally submissive side and I put a status on here so that local guys could see I'm considering it (I think its still up) I've had a few people contact me. Unfortunately I've turned them down as I don't find them attractive and I feel this is an important part to the experience I'm looking for. This hasn't gone down well with a few, who think if they can be aggressive and threatening through the messages they send my knickers will come flying off Am I wrong to be looking for mutual attraction and trust before launching into the kind of experiences I want? Some of the dominant guys who have messaged me say it shouldn't matter if I'm attracted to them, if I'm their submissive I don't have that choice Already going to start putting my details onto a site for people who live a life of fetish, if you catch my drift. Does anyone have any advice or tips for finding and starting a "relationship" like this? Ps, please ignore my current profile text, I was in a very facetious mood yesterday, in fact I was a real cunt. That will change " Too many people state they are dom and don't have the first clue. They think it's all about abuse. Attraction is of course important and that varies from person to person. But trust, genuine trust, is vital. If guys think they can just turn up and abuse you to fulfil their OWN needs they are not dom and, most likely, don't especially like or value women. Avoid those who go into detailed scenarios without actually knowing you. Do your research. Find out what kind of things are out there. | |||
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"This is by no means chapter and verse on the subject but hopefully some useful pointers! You do need to be clear and defined on where the D/s aspect will start and end, for some they live their life 24/7 I. The lifestyle for others it's merely on a play level. You then also need to know limits hard and soft and of course safe words as in some scenarios stop doesn't mean a thing. A good Dom will talk you through all this and get the lay of the land and find out how you wish to proceed. A poor Dom will just bark out some orders thinking a slap round the face or bum is what you need and a few names while you suck his cock! Good luck in your search and hope the random ramblings help They do help! At the moment all I'm finding in my area are mistresses. Given the complete absence of bisexuality I have, they aren't going to cut it lol" Would be a stern test of your obedience | |||
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"So I'm looking to explore my naturally submissive side and I put a status on here so that local guys could see I'm considering it (I think its still up) I've had a few people contact me. Unfortunately I've turned them down as I don't find them attractive and I feel this is an important part to the experience I'm looking for. This hasn't gone down well with a few, who think if they can be aggressive and threatening through the messages they send my knickers will come flying off Am I wrong to be looking for mutual attraction and trust before launching into the kind of experiences I want? Some of the dominant guys who have messaged me say it shouldn't matter if I'm attracted to them, if I'm their submissive I don't have that choice Already going to start putting my details onto a site for people who live a life of fetish, if you catch my drift. Does anyone have any advice or tips for finding and starting a "relationship" like this? Ps, please ignore my current profile text, I was in a very facetious mood yesterday, in fact I was a real cunt. That will change Too many people state they are dom and don't have the first clue. They think it's all about abuse. Attraction is of course important and that varies from person to person. But trust, genuine trust, is vital. If guys think they can just turn up and abuse you to fulfil their OWN needs they are not dom and, most likely, don't especially like or value women. Avoid those who go into detailed scenarios without actually knowing you. Do your research. Find out what kind of things are out there. " spot on!! | |||
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"i think "dominant" is one of those weird words in swinging that people think actually says a lot, but in reality says very little because in a swinging context it is a "blah/meh" word that is very general.... if you know what you are looking for... tell people, or describe to people what your vision actually is! don't leave it to the other person to decipher because people are normally really shitty mind readers!!!! I know roughly what I'm aiming for (assuming its a good choice for me). Essentially I want a fuck buddy that can do the whole dominant submissive relationship thing in the bedroom or wherever but I want my own life back when I'm not there. Off to google for professionals " That's the kind of thing I do with my fb. But we began in fairly vanilla terms. He had a lot more experience than me and together we have explored quite a bit. Nothing too heavy. I certainly wouldn't say I am any kind of expert by any means but I can tell when someone contacts me if they know what they're doing or not. Wannabe Mr Greys get nowhere. I value my safety more than that. | |||
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"So I'm looking to explore my naturally submissive side and I put a status on here so that local guys could see I'm considering it (I think its still up) I've had a few people contact me. Unfortunately I've turned them down as I don't find them attractive and I feel this is an important part to the experience I'm looking for. This hasn't gone down well with a few, who think if they can be aggressive and threatening through the messages they send my knickers will come flying off Am I wrong to be looking for mutual attraction and trust before launching into the kind of experiences I want? Some of the dominant guys who have messaged me say it shouldn't matter if I'm attracted to them, if I'm their submissive I don't have that choice Already going to start putting my details onto a site for people who live a life of fetish, if you catch my drift. Does anyone have any advice or tips for finding and starting a "relationship" like this? Ps, please ignore my current profile text, I was in a very facetious mood yesterday, in fact I was a real cunt. That will change Too many people state they are dom and don't have the first clue. They think it's all about abuse. Attraction is of course important and that varies from person to person. But trust, genuine trust, is vital. If guys think they can just turn up and abuse you to fulfil their OWN needs they are not dom and, most likely, don't especially like or value women. Avoid those who go into detailed scenarios without actually knowing you. Do your research. Find out what kind of things are out there. " This | |||
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"So I'm looking to explore my naturally submissive side and I put a status on here so that local guys could see I'm considering it (I think its still up) I've had a few people contact me. Unfortunately I've turned them down as I don't find them attractive and I feel this is an important part to the experience I'm looking for. This hasn't gone down well with a few, who think if they can be aggressive and threatening through the messages they send my knickers will come flying off Am I wrong to be looking for mutual attraction and trust before launching into the kind of experiences I want? Some of the dominant guys who have messaged me say it shouldn't matter if I'm attracted to them, if I'm their submissive I don't have that choice " A search for a Dominant is like searching for anything on the internet, there are a lot of tins that are labelled biscuits and until you take the lid off you don't know whether they are your flavour, out of date or a crumpet that always wanted to be a biscuit but didn't know how! Our advice, get involved with the local fetish scene, travel to clubs and munches, get to meet some dominants that practise what they preach and speak to their submissive as well, take up recommendations, references and only then put your trust in someone who knows how to use their power appropriately for YOU! | |||
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"I'd go and use a professional Dom with proper equipment. Say you're dipping your toe and he'll hopefully have the experience to get the best out you. Just my opinion, good luck " Great idea, Some people believe they want to be dominated However its not for everyone...... | |||
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" A search for a Dominant is like searching for anything on the internet, there are a lot of tins that are labelled biscuits and until you take the lid off you don't know whether they are your flavour, out of date or a crumpet that always wanted to be a biscuit but didn't know how! " Lol, yes, I want a biscuit that doesn't know it's a biscuit and acts like a crumpet!! | |||
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"To me, a genuine Dom, is someone who, Makes your safety number one priority at ALL times, Devotes to you as you will to him, Allows you to have your time away to mentally re adjust, someone you find both mentally and physically attractive yes BUT, please remember, it is only down to a fantastic Sub that the Dom can be allowed to take the role of a good Dom--without you, he is no longer x" Echo | |||
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"I know roughly what I'm aiming for (assuming its a good choice for me). Essentially I want a fuck buddy that can do the whole dominant submissive relationship thing in the bedroom or wherever but I want my own life back when I'm not there. " That's the arrangement I have with my sub FWB and we're having a blast. I know it's unlikely on this site but perhaps the guys who were saying attraction isn't important are talking about a non-sexual D/s relationship where they just dominate and discipline you? Physical attraction is not necessarily required in that case. That sort of thing is not that uncommon but obviously not what you're looking for so you have to be specific because, as mentioned, there are so many different dynamics in D/s, much like in any interpersonal interaction. Good luck with your search. I've recently signed up on the site you mentioned with the same user name so feel free to say hi if you want to talk about this stuff with another relative newb. | |||
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"Personally i find meeting people for 'normal' swinging meets alot easier than to meet someone for d/s play, i need my dom to get to know me and understand these things take time." Yes, that's the most important thing. You really have to spend time getting to know your sub's anatomy, personality, desires, dislikes etc. It's really not something you can do on a one off meeting. | |||
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"Personally i find meeting people for 'normal' swinging meets alot easier than to meet someone for d/s play, i need my dom to get to know me and understand these things take time. Yes, that's the most important thing. You really have to spend time getting to know your sub's anatomy, personality, desires, dislikes etc. It's really not something you can do on a one off meeting." The problem being many men on here dont understand that, and i think it can be a minefield for subs that just want to experiment with their desires | |||
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"To me there are many levels you can play at and whilst you can play the role of sub, it should be your call on how far you take it. One thing to watch, in my experience, is the more you fractionate, the more the sub needs to balance later and a sub can be left vulnerable at a number of levels, both parties awareness around this is very important. Think if I was looking to play sub, I'd be asking other subs for thoughts, and not taking too much advise from a Dom in any form - so I'll shut up - lol " Care to explain "fractionate" for those who dont understand the term? | |||
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"To me there are many levels you can play at and whilst you can play the role of sub, it should be your call on how far you take it. One thing to watch, in my experience, is the more you fractionate, the more the sub needs to balance later and a sub can be left vulnerable at a number of levels, both parties awareness around this is very important. Think if I was looking to play sub, I'd be asking other subs for thoughts, and not taking too much advise from a Dom in any form - so I'll shut up - lol Care to explain "fractionate" for those who dont understand the term?" fractionate? Is that anything along the lines of distillation or separation? Only ever heard it used in the oil and hydrocarbon industry | |||
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"To me there are many levels you can play at and whilst you can play the role of sub, it should be your call on how far you take it. One thing to watch, in my experience, is the more you fractionate, the more the sub needs to balance later and a sub can be left vulnerable at a number of levels, both parties awareness around this is very important. Think if I was looking to play sub, I'd be asking other subs for thoughts, and not taking too much advise from a Dom in any form - so I'll shut up - lol Care to explain "fractionate" for those who dont understand the term?" Fractionation can be used on many levels, from a simple physical movement from say using ice then applying warmth. Then moving to something with a bigger difference to create an altered state. Now fractionation can be used in a number of areas. You can emotionally fractionate with a persons feelings, emotional state. You can fractionate at an intellectual level (the basis of hypnosis). Plus it's a whole lot more. However, whatever the altered state you induce for ecology there should be balance brought back. Downs can be quite disturbing for all parties. | |||
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"To me there are many levels you can play at and whilst you can play the role of sub, it should be your call on how far you take it. One thing to watch, in my experience, is the more you fractionate, the more the sub needs to balance later and a sub can be left vulnerable at a number of levels, both parties awareness around this is very important. Think if I was looking to play sub, I'd be asking other subs for thoughts, and not taking too much advise from a Dom in any form - so I'll shut up - lol Care to explain "fractionate" for those who dont understand the term? Fractionation can be used on many levels, from a simple physical movement from say using ice then applying warmth. Then moving to something with a bigger difference to create an altered state. Now fractionation can be used in a number of areas. You can emotionally fractionate with a persons feelings, emotional state. You can fractionate at an intellectual level (the basis of hypnosis). Plus it's a whole lot more. However, whatever the altered state you induce for ecology there should be balance brought back. Downs can be quite disturbing for all parties. " Just as I thought. | |||
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"I've been quite lucky and stumbled upon my kinky fb on here... messaged a guy I liked the sound of and we've had lots of fun esp exploring since. Our first meet was purely social with limits being discussed as openly as they could be in a bar! We've continually discussed limits throughout too and I completely trust him despite our fun being quite casual as we have regular contact when not playing. I've been contacted by many wannabe Dom's who seem to think that the more commands they can fit in a message the more likely my knickers will just disappear... They just make me wanna get a padlock! I'd advise searching yourself. It may seem like searching for a needle in a haystack but you might just find a profile that fits what you want rather than being messaged by a load of 50 shades dreamers who have no idea what they're doing or bullies who hide behind a title they do not deserve" Bang on girl, She who must be obeyed outside the bedroom gets it all the time and we read the messages together n laugh Him | |||
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"We've continually discussed limits throughout too and I completely trust him despite our fun being quite casual as we have regular contact when not playing." Same deal for me and my sub FWB. We've been seeing each other regularly for about six months and I'm only just now starting to push against a few boundaries. It's been a lot of fun finding them. | |||
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"Ive not read all the posts, but one word that hasnt jumped out is respect. Any true dom will have the utmost respect for his sub and safety is a first Look on the other site for local munches. Chat to the doms and subs there, get a feel for the scene and go from there" | |||
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"50 shades of grey has a lot to answer for... There are so many men out there that think they only have to spamk your arse, shove your heD further onto their cock and call you a few names! It is so much more, I love the trust side of things. As if I didn't trust him there would be no sub and without a sub you don't have a dom. Of course there has to be an attraction too. Good luck and have fun x" ha ha love it! Her | |||
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"Subs have the power. Being a dom isnt about making a sub do something, its about talking and building trust and making them want to do it. Pushing boundaries is one thing,pushing your luck is another.x" well said mister. Her | |||
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"Thank you miss.x" your welcome too many plastics that think the sub is not in control | |||
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"Op, I would also recommend reading 'The loving Dominant'..it is an invaluable source of information for anyone interested in D/s. It doesn't get to heavy and looks at the subject from every angle. There is lots of good advice in this thread which is a credit to the forum ! I would echo the thoughts of many here in saying that being 'Dom' or 'sub' has become fashionable lately and the internet has fueled that....the problem for people genuinely interested in exploring is men and women want to be overnight Masters/Mistresses...truth is, thats just not possible.There is so much to know and learn. There are so many wannabees that genuine practioners are difficult to find but dont give up just ask lots of questions before you meet anyone on a D/s basis - bullshitters can rarely hold an in-depth conversation on the subject. Xxxx" I'll put it on my kindle list! This is something I've been interested in for a while, a good few years in fact, but I either haven't been in the right place in my real life relationship to follow it up or I just simply haven't had the resources to look into it properly. Its amazing what fab can open up to you! | |||
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"There are lots of different angles to this. It isn't one way only. Try and allow yourself time to experiment a little and research. There was a really good site which had a great community which has since closed down, but all the materials/discussions are still on line and searchable. Drop me a PM if you'd like the name of the site. Most of all I'd say be patient. Ds is no different to any other kind of relationship - and you may have to kiss a few frogs before you find what you're looking for. Did you mean IC ? x" | |||
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"The sub is totally in control. A dom has to respect his sub fully, if she is a good sub why would you risk losing her by not following her pre-arraged limits. As has been said, no sub, no dom! Pushing boundaries only comes when trust is established and respect gained on both sides." To me neither party holds all the cards...yes I give him the control and have to trust him not to hurt me beyond kinky fuckery, but he also has to trust that if I wasn't happy with something I'd open my mouth and tell him. If he wasn't willing to take control then I'd have no-one to submit too. The respect has to go both ways, just like the communication. We are a team and we have to both put the effort in to make the time we do spend together as pleasurable as possible for us both | |||
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"There are lots of different angles to this. It isn't one way only. Try and allow yourself time to experiment a little and research. There was a really good site which had a great community which has since closed down, but all the materials/discussions are still on line and searchable. Drop me a PM if you'd like the name of the site. Most of all I'd say be patient. Ds is no different to any other kind of relationship - and you may have to kiss a few frogs before you find what you're looking for. Did you mean IC ? x " Yes! | |||
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"I have been reading this thread with interest. I have a FB on here and we get on well. It was only recently I noticed whip marks on her butt... She has a dom. ... I don't pretend to know much about it but she enjoys that part of her life and I respect she needs to meet her Dom whilst also enjoy the tame but intense times we have too. She will do anything I ask her to do .. But no way am.i a true Dom and she likes our relationship as it stands.. And yes I admit to being the guy who says suck my cock bitch lol .. But I cannot be a true Dom but respect she has a relationship on a different level that also suits her.... Hope this post is showing a different viewpoint " Nicely put | |||
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"So I'm looking to explore my naturally submissive side and I put a status on here so that local guys could see I'm considering it (I think its still up) I've had a few people contact me. Unfortunately I've turned them down as I don't find them attractive and I feel this is an important part to the experience I'm looking for. This hasn't gone down well with a few, who think if they can be aggressive and threatening through the messages they send my knickers will come flying off Am I wrong to be looking for mutual attraction and trust before launching into the kind of experiences I want? Some of the dominant guys who have messaged me say it shouldn't matter if I'm attracted to them, if I'm their submissive I don't have that choice Already going to start putting my details onto a site for people who live a life of fetish, if you catch my drift. Does anyone have any advice or tips for finding and starting a "relationship" like this? Ps, please ignore my current profile text, I was in a very facetious mood yesterday, in fact I was a real cunt. That will change " A dom who gets angry simply via a message could not be trusted for play in my book. And any dom who says a sub doesn't have a choice about anything isn't a real dom, potential sex offender yes dom no. | |||
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