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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Im thinking about getting a large queen of spades tattoo on my right boob to show the world and my husband my love of black men... what does everybody think? would it suit me ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thinks its ridiculous but its your body

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Presumably your husband already knows you like black guys and the rest of the world would only see your tattoo if you walk around with your boob out, not sure that many would recognise the significance of the queen of spades.

Tattoos are very much a matter of personal taste and choice, if you want one go for it - its your body after all!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you should do what ever you like

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

thanks for the comments i love the queen of spades tattoo and i think it would look great on me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You go girl........make it a large one for those fabulous boobs...xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Presumably your husband already knows you like black guys and the rest of the world would only see your tattoo if you walk around with your boob out, not sure that many would recognise the significance of the queen of spades.

Tattoos are very much a matter of personal taste and choice, if you want one go for it - its your body after all!! "

this. I had no idea what the queen of spades tattoo meant but if that's what you want, go for it. Very difficult for anyone else to say if it'll suit you really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Presumably your husband already knows you like black guys and the rest of the world would only see your tattoo if you walk around with your boob out, not sure that many would recognise the significance of the queen of spades.

Tattoos are very much a matter of personal taste and choice, if you want one go for it - its your body after all!!

this. I had no idea what the queen of spades tattoo meant but if that's what you want, go for it. Very difficult for anyone else to say if it'll suit you really."

I only knew it's significance because I have a gay friend who is really into black guys and has one tattooed on his shoulder!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

thanks i know my husband will love it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go for it if you want to its your body I never knew what it meant either I do now lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go for it if that what you want to do,there is a profile that does partys they invented their own queen of spades tatoo tranfers,they sell them on ebay,i personally wouldnt rush to get a tatoo done as not my thing,i think your find queen of Spades tatoo is usually on the outer side of ankle,but boob would be fine

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

thanks yes ive seen the tat on the ankle before but as u can see bi my pix i love big tattoos,, i like being a bit different you see so thought a large 1 on my other tit would be great x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"thanks yes ive seen the tat on the ankle before but as u can see bi my pix i love big tattoos,, i like being a bit different you see so thought a large 1 on my other tit would be great x"

Yep i can understand that by seeing your boobs that profile has a pic of it on boobs aswell does look nice,i still wouldnt personally,but go for it,have a word with tatooist to design you one

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

i do like the normal 1 the blk spade with the q in the middle something abt it that just seems so sexy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i do like the normal 1 the blk spade with the q in the middle something abt it that just seems so sexy "

Yeah it does look good with a nice cleavage,but how big you gonna go,i like it small as looks nice x if you go to london alot people will know the meaning

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

prob abt the size of my other tit tattoo,, maybe a tad bigger,, i wish i had had my other tat bigger tbh, we used to play with a blk guy regular when we used to live in essex, he was a lovely guy ,, he even wanted to take me on holiday to jamaca with him

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

go ahead if that's what you want I regret mine but its your decision

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"prob abt the size of my other tit tattoo,, maybe a tad bigger,, i wish i had had my other tat bigger tbh, we used to play with a blk guy regular when we used to live in essex, he was a lovely guy ,, he even wanted to take me on holiday to jamaca with him "

Cant quite see what your other tit tatoo is,hope it dont clash with the style of queen of squades x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

no its a heart with my daughters name on it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"no its a heart with my daughters name on it "

That shouldnt clash then with a heart with a spade in it then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can think of nothing worse to be honest.

I would avoid anyone with such a tattoo but that is just my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

thats what i thought im defo gnna get it done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"thats what i thought im defo gnna get it done "

Be very sure you want to do it,as the true meaning can affend some blackmen as above,and thats something i wouldnt personally like to do

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

I find the juxtaposition of the notion of someone who likes black men, and their willingness to apply the term 'spade' to them whether explictly or implied very interesting to say the least.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't know why you asked, but I think it's a bad idea. Sorry

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

its like anything some ppl wont like it some do,, just like bareback,, we cant please them all

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

But the essential meaning behind 'queen of spades' is derogatory to black men. You are calling them spades and claiming you are better then them. How does this portray your love for them?

Each to their own, and I just hope you like the design, because if you ever grow out of lovong black men, you are screwed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But the essential meaning behind 'queen of spades' is derogatory to black men. You are calling them spades and claiming you are better then them. How does this portray your love for them?

Each to their own, and I just hope you like the design, because if you ever grow out of lovong black men, you are screwed!"

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't know what it meant until I read this thread....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But the essential meaning behind 'queen of spades' is derogatory to black men. You are calling them spades and claiming you are better then them. How does this portray your love for them?

Each to their own, and I just hope you like the design, because if you ever grow out of lovong black men, you are screwed!"

Or not screwed maybe if the black men take offence at the tattoo!!

I had absolutely no idea what it meant and having read the whole thread I really can't understand why anyone would want such a tattoo.

I'm so glad I chose a very boring but pretty Lily as my one and only tattoo!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im thinking about getting a large queen of spades tattoo on my right boob to show the world and my husband my love of black men... what does everybody think? would it suit me ? "

that's a little racist tbh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a well known symbol in certain areas of the interacial cuckold scene

Personally I think its like branding and thought that modern society had evolved beyond that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find the juxtaposition of the notion of someone who likes black men, and their willingness to apply the term 'spade' to them whether explictly or implied very interesting to say the least. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

actually find it quite funny in that, if i were t owalk up to a black guy in a pub and call him a spade, i have no doubt i would be wearing whatever was inside me as an overcoat, yet because someone fucks a black guy, its quite reasonable to call them by a derogatory term.

no, its not something im a fan of, but its your body, do what you want.

i, however, have a problem with using racist terms just to show a sexual preference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did wonder how this thread would end up,A party i went to last year which i enjoyed very much due to having so many blackmen,and still see and speak to some i met there,i didnt go back there for my own reasons

There future partys they brought in the queen of spades as a award,also they developed there own queen of spades tatoo transfers.i never knew what it ment till somebody wrote a thread about it,yes it shocked me

My point is i like blackmen,i know that this term affends some,whilst others still attend this party and the term does not affend them,some woman feel they want to wear the tatoo to show they like blackmen,they dont realize its history,some woman like me wouldnt like to be branded as someone put it or affend my friends

I have not seen this tatoo on anyone at any partys ive attended,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if it's a role play or cuckold thing then why not consider either a transfer or a henna tattoo that you can use when you play obviously with the agreement of the other parties involved that way it's not permanent and you don't run the risk of either upsetting people or alienating yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I did wonder how this thread would end up,A party i went to last year which i enjoyed very much due to having so many blackmen,and still see and speak to some i met there,i didnt go back there for my own reasons

There future partys they brought in the queen of spades as a award,also they developed there own queen of spades tatoo transfers.i never knew what it ment till somebody wrote a thread about it,yes it shocked me

My point is i like blackmen,i know that this term affends some,whilst others still attend this party and the term does not affend them,some woman feel they want to wear the tatoo to show they like blackmen,they dont realize its history,some woman like me wouldnt like to be branded as someone put it or affend my friends

I have not seen this tatoo on anyone at any partys ive attended,"

your defense (of others, not yourself) of not knowing how, or indeed why, the term 'spade' is derogatory, suggests ignorance in others.

do people in this day and age REALLY not know which terms should, and possibly shouldnt, be off limits?

where do we draw the line?

is it ok to have a tattoo declaring ones interest in indians (the asian variety rather than the american brand) and use the P word?

should spade be replaced by the N word, or is that a step too far?

i have no problem with how people want to brand themselves, but its far from ok for others to use the terms

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

I dont think boob tattoos look good on anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a black ace of spades jewel on my hotwife anklet and I wear it as often as possible but no one has ever commented on it being on the anklet, shame really as I was hoping it might attract wanted attention lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I did wonder how this thread would end up,A party i went to last year which i enjoyed very much due to having so many blackmen,and still see and speak to some i met there,i didnt go back there for my own reasons

There future partys they brought in the queen of spades as a award,also they developed there own queen of spades tatoo transfers.i never knew what it ment till somebody wrote a thread about it,yes it shocked me

My point is i like blackmen,i know that this term affends some,whilst others still attend this party and the term does not affend them,some woman feel they want to wear the tatoo to show they like blackmen,they dont realize its history,some woman like me wouldnt like to be branded as someone put it or affend my friends

I have not seen this tatoo on anyone at any partys ive attended,

your defense (of others, not yourself) of not knowing how, or indeed why, the term 'spade' is derogatory, suggests ignorance in others.

do people in this day and age REALLY not know which terms should, and possibly shouldnt, be off limits?

where do we draw the line?

is it ok to have a tattoo declaring ones interest in indians (the asian variety rather than the american brand) and use the P word?

should spade be replaced by the N word, or is that a step too far?

i have no problem with how people want to brand themselves, but its far from ok for others to use the terms"

I don't think anyone on this thread has used the word "spade" with the intent to be derogatory but simply in terms of its meaning in relation to the tattoo. Altho several people, myself included, have said that the OP's body is her's so any tattoos should be her choice it does not mean that any of us condone her choice of tattoo or support what it represents. As the white half of an interracial couple I find any racist word regarding any nationality offensive. However, the OP has the right to make her own decision regardless of how inappropriate any of us may think it is.

How many people, men in particular, have in the past had swastika tattoos, some in order to make a statement about what they believe but many I am sure without a full understanding of the horror the symbol actually represents.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it quite inconceivable that someone would have a swastika tattoo without a very real realisation of its significance. And comparing it to having queen of spades tattoo seems difficult to comprehend as they are two completely seperare things.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Im thinking about getting a large queen of spades tattoo on my right boob to show the world and my husband my love of black men... what does everybody think? would it suit me ? "

Queen of Spades?!!

Really?!! And your husband is happy being the spade?!!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I find the juxtaposition of the notion of someone who likes black men, and their willingness to apply the term 'spade' to them whether explictly or implied very interesting to say the least. "

Not just me then!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"But the essential meaning behind 'queen of spades' is derogatory to black men. You are calling them spades and claiming you are better then them. How does this portray your love for them?

Each to their own, and I just hope you like the design, because if you ever grow out of lovong black men, you are screwed!"

...not just black men!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought the term spades was from the deck of cards it relates too ... It's more about the colour and shape than about linking derogatory meanings to the word surely

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By *rish coupleCouple
over a year ago

waterford

we use the temporary queen of spades tattoo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"thats what i thought im defo gnna get it done "

I didn't know what it meant till I read this thread. I don't have tattoos but if was going to have this id have it on the ankle where they said but it's your decision

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I find the juxtaposition of the notion of someone who likes black men, and their willingness to apply the term 'spade' to them whether explictly or implied very interesting to say the least.

Not just me then!"

me three.. and I suppose I am the target market......

the tattoo in effect will only mean something if you understand it, and your target market understand it... and I didn't have a clue that it meant until about 2 weeks ago in a thread on here.....

nothing wrong with getting one if you think it looks goods, its your decision... but dont get people to get the meaning behind it...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I also have a nice large black love heart choker which I wear and no one seems to click on what it means either.. Even in swinging clubs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its your body and if you can live with seeing it everyday why not ...... your choice your body .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it quite inconceivable that someone would have a swastika tattoo without a very real realisation of its significance. And comparing it to having queen of spades tattoo seems difficult to comprehend as they are two completely seperare things. "

Then we will have to agree to disagree, I can recall lads at my grammar school scratching swastikas on their arms with compasses and then inking them so the scar would heal with the coloured ink in it and I am quite sure they did not realise the significance at the time, like many teenagers they just thought they were "being cool". How many skinheads became skinheads during their youth because they were crowd followers and wanted to fit in without any real understanding of what they represented.

Originally the swastika represented goodness but with the rise of the Nazi party it quickly became synonymous with hatred and violence.

I see no real difference, my point was that to those who are offended by racism either symbol could be equally offensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If my reference to the swastika and the comparison I used has offended anyone I apologise, it was not my intention.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it quite inconceivable that someone would have a swastika tattoo without a very real realisation of its significance. And comparing it to having queen of spades tattoo seems difficult to comprehend as they are two completely seperare things.

Then we will have to agree to disagree, I can recall lads at my grammar school scratching swastikas on their arms with compasses and then inking them so the scar would heal with the coloured ink in it and I am quite sure they did not realise the significance at the time, like many teenagers they just thought they were "being cool". How many skinheads became skinheads during their youth because they were crowd followers and wanted to fit in without any real understanding of what they represented.

Originally the swastika represented goodness but with the rise of the Nazi party it quickly became synonymous with hatred and violence.

I see no real difference, my point was that to those who are offended by racism either symbol could be equally offensive. "

I'm pretty sure that anyone that was in grammar school in the 70's knew full well want a swastika symbolised.

As for the OP, I'm very much in the camp but it's your body, your choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it quite inconceivable that someone would have a swastika tattoo without a very real realisation of its significance. And comparing it to having queen of spades tattoo seems difficult to comprehend as they are two completely seperare things.

Then we will have to agree to disagree, I can recall lads at my grammar school scratching swastikas on their arms with compasses and then inking them so the scar would heal with the coloured ink in it and I am quite sure they did not realise the significance at the time, like many teenagers they just thought they were "being cool". How many skinheads became skinheads during their youth because they were crowd followers and wanted to fit in without any real understanding of what they represented.

Originally the swastika represented goodness but with the rise of the Nazi party it quickly became synonymous with hatred and violence.

I see no real difference, my point was that to those who are offended by racism either symbol could be equally offensive.

I'm pretty sure that anyone that was in grammar school in the 70's knew full well want a swastika symbolised.

As for the OP, I'm very much in the camp but it's your body, your choice."

Im not disputing they knew what it symbolised, I just don't think they gave much thought to the significance of it or of marking their bodies for life with such a symbol and what that implied about them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not that anyone genuinely gives a flying fuck what anyone else on here thinks but for what it's worth.

No, I wouldn't like it on any woman I might meet, so it's difficult to say "yeah, go ahead". I don't think it's a particularly good idea.

Racist connotations go without saying - just goes to show how far we HAVEN'T progressed in our attitudes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cannot understand at all why anyone would want to write on their body. Buy a screen printed tee shirt if you need to express yourself ther than verbally. I am starting to see women, elderly women , dependent women who have all sorts stamped on their bodies, some have phrases like "fuck this" across their lower abdomen etc. it's really not dignified and like puppies it's not just for Christmas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

doesn't exactly scream "classy lady" either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the op didnt know the true meaning and quite innocently thought it was a good thing, now she does then it her choice whether to have it or not,maybe she will realize it does affend some blackmen and not affend some,i would like to hear what she thinks now,she has read this thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely the wording in her original post implies she knew what it meant?

If I met a couple and the wife had that on show, that in itself would tell me all I needed to know. I didn't want to spend any time with them at all, the husband evidently had no pride in himself or his wife, and neither of them had any self-respect or class whatsoever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you would look a right tit. (get it) lol. But on a serious note I don't think it would look good. Your boobs look great as they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely the wording in her original post implies she knew what it meant?

If I met a couple and the wife had that on show, that in itself would tell me all I needed to know. I didn't want to spend any time with them at all, the husband evidently had no pride in himself or his wife, and neither of them had any self-respect or class whatsoever."

whilst I am a huge fan of tattooed women this would not be the type of tattoo to gain my admiration , that said I would in no way be proclaiming to know anything about them or there thinking based on it and I would definitely not be as arrogant as to suggest I knew anything about their self respect of respect for each other as a result of tattoo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely the wording in her original post implies she knew what it meant?

If I met a couple and the wife had that on show, that in itself would tell me all I needed to know. I didn't want to spend any time with them at all, the husband evidently had no pride in himself or his wife, and neither of them had any self-respect or class whatsoever.

whilst I am a huge fan of tattooed women this would not be the type of tattoo to gain my admiration , that said I would in no way be proclaiming to know anything about them or there thinking based on it and I would definitely not be as arrogant as to suggest I knew anything about their self respect of respect for each other as a result of tattoo. "

I would. Arrogance it may be but I think what a person wants to stamp on themselves for the rest of their life says a lot about their values, character and attitudes.

Self-respect you can gain insight into simply by putting yourself into the shoes of the husband for two minutes. A man who allows himself to be cuckolded is one thing (and begs serious questions about self-respect it itself) but to allow one's wife to advertise that is something totally different.

Any woman in my life who did that would not be a wife for long.

Ok, so I'm an arrogant sod. I also have pride in myself and self-respect. It's a win-win for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely the wording in her original post implies she knew what it meant?

If I met a couple and the wife had that on show, that in itself would tell me all I needed to know. I didn't want to spend any time with them at all, the husband evidently had no pride in himself or his wife, and neither of them had any self-respect or class whatsoever.

whilst I am a huge fan of tattooed women this would not be the type of tattoo to gain my admiration , that said I would in no way be proclaiming to know anything about them or there thinking based on it and I would definitely not be as arrogant as to suggest I knew anything about their self respect of respect for each other as a result of tattoo.

I would. Arrogance it may be but I think what a person wants to stamp on themselves for the rest of their life says a lot about their values, character and attitudes.

Self-respect you can gain insight into simply by putting yourself into the shoes of the husband for two minutes. A man who allows himself to be cuckolded is one thing (and begs serious questions about self-respect it itself) but to allow one's wife to advertise that is something totally different.

Any woman in my life who did that would not be a wife for long.

Ok, so I'm an arrogant sod. I also have pride in myself and self-respect. It's a win-win for me."

I don't see how allowing his wife to do something she wanted goes anyway to suggest what respect he has for her, if anything it shows that he in fact had enough respect for her to allow her to make her own decisions !! as for cuckolds lacking self respect I think there would be a lot of people who know this dynamic better that would take issue with that statement , does that also apply to sub men ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely the wording in her original post implies she knew what it meant?

If I met a couple and the wife had that on show, that in itself would tell me all I needed to know. I didn't want to spend any time with them at all, the husband evidently had no pride in himself or his wife, and neither of them had any self-respect or class whatsoever.

whilst I am a huge fan of tattooed women this would not be the type of tattoo to gain my admiration , that said I would in no way be proclaiming to know anything about them or there thinking based on it and I would definitely not be as arrogant as to suggest I knew anything about their self respect of respect for each other as a result of tattoo.

I would. Arrogance it may be but I think what a person wants to stamp on themselves for the rest of their life says a lot about their values, character and attitudes.

Self-respect you can gain insight into simply by putting yourself into the shoes of the husband for two minutes. A man who allows himself to be cuckolded is one thing (and begs serious questions about self-respect it itself) but to allow one's wife to advertise that is something totally different.

Any woman in my life who did that would not be a wife for long.

Ok, so I'm an arrogant sod. I also have pride in myself and self-respect. It's a win-win for me.

I don't see how allowing his wife to do something she wanted goes anyway to suggest what respect he has for her, if anything it shows that he in fact had enough respect for her to allow her to make her own decisions !! as for cuckolds lacking self respect I think there would be a lot of people who know this dynamic better that would take issue with that statement , does that also apply to sub men ? "

yup.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

without wanting to hijack the thread I would be intrigued to know your reasoning for suggesting that cucklold and especially sub men lack self respect. ? and given that it is the age equality do sub women also lack self respect ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"without wanting to hijack the thread I would be intrigued to know your reasoning for suggesting that cucklold and especially sub men lack self respect. ? and given that it is the age equality do sub women also lack self respect ? "

You can throw that to the floor if you like. Me, I'm pretty much done here. We could toss this back and forth all night, still hold our own opinions and have conceded nothing. Quite frankly I've got better things to do with my night but on a final note.... "Sub" anyone in my mind has self-respect issues. You could argue about equality until the cows came home but let's face reality - any male who subscribes to the cuckold or sub lifestyle, lets his wife and her prick-of-the-moment belittle him and enjoy his emasculating experience.... yeah, that guy's got some work to do on upping his self-esteem.

Done!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a full-time black person, I think I may be in a position to answer some of the concerns raised here. Firstly, Red, if you wish to have a tattoo, then have a tattoo. It's your body, and quite a lovely one too, you have your own mind and there appears to be no malice implied, so fill your boots. The Queen of Spades emblem refers to a particular lifestyle choice and, from what little I know of the scene, black guys get treated pretty well, so there should be nothing to complain about.

A symbol is just a symbol, it's what it stands for that is important. Just look at the origin of the swastika and what it stood for before it was defiled by the nazis in the 1930's.

The C18 logo employed by Combat 18 meant nothing to anyone, unless you were out on your own in Barking, and ethnic.

We are all very quick to judge and determine what someone else finds offensive. If one isn't a fan of tattoos, cuckolds, shaven people, squirters, suduko fans or stamp collectors, then we can simply choose to avoid interacting with that person and move on. Each one of you here is a very special person in your own right. Let's celebrate that.

Mike x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"then we can simply choose to avoid interacting with that person and move on. Each one of you here is a very special person in your own right. Let's celebrate that.

Mike x"

Hurrah!

Avoidance is the key. Like I said, "If I met a couple and the wife had that on show, that in itself would tell me all I needed to know. I didn't want to spend any time with them at all"

Well said Mike. Time for a drink now. Adios!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You could have the king and Ace tattooed on your ass cheeks and be the top trump

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I personally feel racist tattoos should be avoided. Oh well, whatever floats your goat!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a full-time black person, I think I may be in a position to answer some of the concerns raised here. Firstly, Red, if you wish to have a tattoo, then have a tattoo. It's your body, and quite a lovely one too, you have your own mind and there appears to be no malice implied, so fill your boots. The Queen of Spades emblem refers to a particular lifestyle choice and, from what little I know of the scene, black guys get treated pretty well, so there should be nothing to complain about.

A symbol is just a symbol, it's what it stands for that is important. Just look at the origin of the swastika and what it stood for before it was defiled by the nazis in the 1930's.

The C18 logo employed by Combat 18 meant nothing to anyone, unless you were out on your own in Barking, and ethnic.

We are all very quick to judge and determine what someone else finds offensive. If one isn't a fan of tattoos, cuckolds, shaven people, squirters, suduko fans or stamp collectors, then we can simply choose to avoid interacting with that person and move on. Each one of you here is a very special person in your own right. Let's celebrate that.

Mike x"

As a term time black person I don't agree with Mike one bit (Sorry could not resist that one) If someone does not mean to cause offence or means no harm it can still offend.

I do agree with avoidance though and it is a tactic I use. The main issue for me is when people come at me from this angle they do not see why I am offended because A.N Other seem to be ok with it.

So I am just putting it out there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely the wording in her original post implies she knew what it meant?

If I met a couple and the wife had that on show, that in itself would tell me all I needed to know. I didn't want to spend any time with them at all, the husband evidently had no pride in himself or his wife, and neither of them had any self-respect or class whatsoever."

The wording was to show her love of blackmen,it wasnt written to affend,thats why i asked how she feels about it now after reading the thread,im not hear to judge anyone, and yes some men will be put of by the tattoo and some wont.

I dont know if they are a cuckold couple but Do find that a harsh statement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a full-time black person, I think I may be in a position to answer some of the concerns raised here. Firstly, Red, if you wish to have a tattoo, then have a tattoo. It's your body, and quite a lovely one too, you have your own mind and there appears to be no malice implied, so fill your boots. The Queen of Spades emblem refers to a particular lifestyle choice and, from what little I know of the scene, black guys get treated pretty well, so there should be nothing to complain about.

A symbol is just a symbol, it's what it stands for that is important. Just look at the origin of the swastika and what it stood for before it was defiled by the nazis in the 1930's.

The C18 logo employed by Combat 18 meant nothing to anyone, unless you were out on your own in Barking, and ethnic.

We are all very quick to judge and determine what someone else finds offensive. If one isn't a fan of tattoos, cuckolds, shaven people, squirters, suduko fans or stamp collectors, then we can simply choose to avoid interacting with that person and move on. Each one of you here is a very special person in your own right. Let's celebrate that.

Mike x

As a term time black person I don't agree with Mike one bit (Sorry could not resist that one) If someone does not mean to cause offence or means no harm it can still offend.

I do agree with avoidance though and it is a tactic I use. The main issue for me is when people come at me from this angle they do not see why I am offended because A.N Other seem to be ok with it.

So I am just putting it out there."

I accept and welcome Mr Wayne's point of view as a polar opposite to mine, and a very good point has been raised. Despite both of us being black people, we actually have different views. This can make it very difficult to generalise and compartmentalise the sensitivity of a set group of people. One can spend a large amount of energy imposing your views on someone who is at odds with you, or you can leave them be and focus on what works for you.

There are many profiles on here that state a preference for black partners and there are also a large number of profiles that will only entertain white partners. I choose to ignore those that do not want to meet black people (even though I think they're wrong and missing out because I'm awesome) and focus my energy and attention on those that do. What good would it do to contact a couple that weren't interested in me and wail at them for their terrible ( in my eyes) choice of criteria.

People, we are swingers. We're outcasts, misfits and deviants in the eyes of mainstream society. It does no good for us to be fragmented and resentful of one another. If we can't conduct a civilised discourse without respecting the opposing views of others, then we're done for.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

OP , your body, your tattoo.. Good to be awear that not everyone will share your enthusiasm , that said , ultimatly its your choice .... I was gonna have a tattoo few years back . W on each cheek of me arse ( so when i bent over said WoW ) So pleased i didnt tho! Lol.. Point being, many i know who had tattoos have then wished they hadn't ... Worth saying also, many have said on this thread they didnt know untill recently just what this tattoo meant. So maybe the effect you could be hoping for with the tattoo may infact not be the case... Likewise some negative effects could be possible too? ... Make your own decisions and choices ... Best wishes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But the essential meaning behind 'queen of spades' is derogatory to black men. You are calling them spades and claiming you are better then them. How does this portray your love for them?

Each to their own, and I just hope you like the design, because if you ever grow out of lovong black men, you are screwed!"

I agree. I regret the one I have now.

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By *akedninjaMan
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Im thinking about getting a large queen of spades tattoo on my right boob to show the world and my husband my love of black men... what does everybody think? would it suit me ? "
I think you should go for it and I think that you should let me do it xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HinduSwastika.svg

The swastika has been used as a symbol of hate for years and it's true meaning is in the above link. A symbol or drawing or tattoo can be perceived in good and bad ways depending on who is looking at it and where from. The main thing you have to think about is how good/ bad the tattoo will look and then explaining the meaning to family/ kids when they get older.

Can you imagine your kids asking why you have a tattoo that means you sleep with other people!!!!'

Good luck explaining that one and them being ok with it. And then kids in school knowing the meaning and giving out he'll over it.

Yes it may be a personal choice. But it does have implications for others around you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HinduSwastika.svg

The swastika has been used as a symbol of hate for years and it's true meaning is in the above link. A symbol or drawing or tattoo can be perceived in good and bad ways depending on who is looking at it and where from. The main thing you have to think about is how good/ bad the tattoo will look and then explaining the meaning to family/ kids when they get older.

Can you imagine your kids asking why you have a tattoo that means you sleep with other people!!!!'

Good luck explaining that one and them being ok with it. And then kids in school knowing the meaning and giving out he'll over it.

Yes it may be a personal choice. But it does have implications for others around you. "

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend


"But the essential meaning behind 'queen of spades' is derogatory to black men. You are calling them spades and claiming you are better then them. How does this portray your love for them?

Each to their own, and I just hope you like the design, because if you ever grow out of lovong black men, you are screwed!

I agree. I regret the one I have now."

I don't regret any of my tattoos. I have quite a few and some big ones too. I just believe one should think seriously before committing to a tattoo especially one that has the potential to offend so many.

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By *estless in batterseaMan
over a year ago

Wandsworth


"I find the juxtaposition of the notion of someone who likes black men, and their willingness to apply the term 'spade' to them whether explictly or implied very interesting to say the least.

Not just me then!

me three.. and I suppose I am the target market......

the tattoo in effect will only mean something if you understand it, and your target market understand it... and I didn't have a clue that it meant until about 2 weeks ago in a thread on here.....

nothing wrong with getting one if you think it looks goods, its your decision... but dont get people to get the meaning behind it..."

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

i didnt meen to offend anybody ,,,, as i love blk guys ,, we are not a cuckold cpl either,, god i dont think ill have iut done now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i didnt meen to offend anybody ,,,, as i love blk guys ,, we are not a cuckold cpl either,, god i dont think ill have iut done now "

If you plan to meet those who like this symbol just buy temporary tattoos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i didnt meen to offend anybody ,,,, as i love blk guys ,, we are not a cuckold cpl either,, god i dont think ill have iut done now "

If you would go for a temporary one that might be a good alternative. And if you go on a very popular auction site (don't think I can say the name or I would get told off, but guess you know which one I meen) and type in queen of spades tattoos a few come up straight away. You could put one on when you are playing and remove when done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i didnt meen to offend anybody ,,,, as i love blk guys ,, we are not a cuckold cpl either,, god i dont think ill have iut done now "

Its as i thought,as a blackmen lover myself i knew where you were coming from,and thinking it a symbol of adoration,thanku for coming back ,i will look up where you can get the tempory tattoo's and pm you details later,i think i got them on a old email

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"i didnt meen to offend anybody ,,,, as i love blk guys ,, we are not a cuckold cpl either,, god i dont think ill have iut done now

Its as i thought,as a blackmen lover myself i knew where you were coming from,and thinking it a symbol of adoration,thanku for coming back ,i will look up where you can get the tempory tattoo's and pm you details later,i think i got them on a old email"

its a bit 1970's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dear me ...dont let people put you off !!

You love black men and you should do to your own body as you wish.

All black men know what it means and love it !!

I am having one done ..with some lillys above my pussy. Only there because of job and family...but thats my choice and mine alone. Hubby has offered to pay and has wanted me to have one for ages.

I wear the ankle chain too and that means

the same thing !!

Go to a bmfc event...they will love your boobs and tattoo

You can buy temp ones from taboo noir on here..I have a temp one on boob at moment !!

They also (taboo noir ) sell them on ebay

Remember its your body and everyone has different views on many topics !!

Kimberley xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

All black men know what it means and love it !!"

well, if you read the thread, there are a couple of black guys that have commented that have opposing views, so no, not all black men like it.

further more, the wider black community probably wont find it too flattering either, but as you say, yours, and OPs own bodies, to do with as you please.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"

All black men know what it means and love it !!

well, if you read the thread, there are a couple of black guys that have commented that have opposing views, so no, not all black men like it.

further more, the wider black community probably wont find it too flattering either, but as you say, yours, and OPs own bodies, to do with as you please."

I might have mentioned something about potential racist connotations not being that good too (now or in later life)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Dear me ...dont let people put you off !!

You love black men and you should do to your own body as you wish.

All black men know what it means and love it !!

I am having one done ..with some lillys above my pussy. Only there because of job and family...but thats my choice and mine alone. Hubby has offered to pay and has wanted me to have one for ages.

I wear the ankle chain too and that means

the same thing !!

Go to a bmfc event...they will love your boobs and tattoo

You can buy temp ones from taboo noir on here..I have a temp one on boob at moment !!

They also (taboo noir ) sell them on ebay

Remember its your body and everyone has different views on many topics !!

Kimberley xxxx"

There you go i dont have to pm now,the above poster has mentioned where to get the tempory tattoo's ,the link i had from november is no longer listed on ebay,but they will let you know where to find it,

Try the tempory and see what reaction you get,if a positive and your comfortable with it then as people say its your body

Not all blackmen Do like it,some do i know personally as spoke to some months ago about it,as i.say i wouldnt personally but entirely up to you

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia


"Dear me ...dont let people put you off !!

You love black men and you should do to your own body as you wish.

All black men know what it means and love it !!

I am having one done ..with some lillys above my pussy. Only there because of job and family...but thats my choice and mine alone. Hubby has offered to pay and has wanted me to have one for ages.

I wear the ankle chain too and that means

the same thing !!

Go to a bmfc event...they will love your boobs and tattoo

You can buy temp ones from taboo noir on here..I have a temp one on boob at moment !!

They also (taboo noir ) sell them on ebay

Remember its your body and everyone has different views on many topics !!

Kimberley xxxx

There you go i dont have to pm now,the above poster has mentioned where to get the tempory tattoo's ,the link i had from november is no longer listed on ebay,but they will let you know where to find it,

Try the tempory and see what reaction you get,if a positive and your comfortable with it then as people say its your body

Not all blackmen Do like it,some do i know personally as spoke to some months ago about it,as i.say i wouldnt personally but entirely up to you"
agree... Not all black men do like it, will also add that not every couple ( or mixed couple) into cuckhold.. We deff aint!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

even tho this is classed as racist i luv the idea...

people love to get themselves in a twist about a few words and letters these days any way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Take the Tarot spin on it....

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By *oulou45Woman
over a year ago

Bucks

I dont like the word spade used. When I was growing up that was classed as racist. Things may of changed since then but I still don't like it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a black ace of spades jewel on my hotwife anklet and I wear it as often as possible but no one has ever commented on it being on the anklet, shame really as I was hoping it might attract wanted attention lol"

Hang on what does the ace stand for? My next tattoo is or was going to be ace and jack of spades in a poker chip on quite a visible onset of me I would hate anybody to get the wrong idea :-/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a black ace of spades jewel on my hotwife anklet and I wear it as often as possible but no one has ever commented on it being on the anklet, shame really as I was hoping it might attract wanted attention lol

Hang on what does the ace stand for? My next tattoo is or was going to be ace and jack of spades in a poker chip on quite a visible onset of me I would hate anybody to get the wrong idea :-/"

2 11? who said ace

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a black ace of spades jewel on my hotwife anklet and I wear it as often as possible but no one has ever commented on it being on the anklet, shame really as I was hoping it might attract wanted attention lol

Hang on what does the ace stand for? My next tattoo is or was going to be ace and jack of spades in a poker chip on quite a visible onset of me I would hate anybody to get the wrong idea :-/

2 11? who said ace"

Seriously? You didn't even manage to read 5 words into the quoted part?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a black ace of spades jewel on my hotwife anklet and I wear it as often as possible but no one has ever commented on it being on the anklet, shame really as I was hoping it might attract wanted attention lol

Hang on what does the ace stand for? My next tattoo is or was going to be ace and jack of spades in a poker chip on quite a visible onset of me I would hate anybody to get the wrong idea :-/

2 11? who said ace

Seriously? You didn't even manage to read 5 words into the quoted part? "

YES....

...just missed the first paragraph thats all.

sry, ....but i could be right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How is the tattoo derogatory to black men - where's that coming from? I've never heard such a load of crap before. Pls OP, go get your tattoo and enjoy it. Sure, u've got a beautiful cleavage to flaunt it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How is the tattoo derogatory to black men - where's that coming from? I've never heard such a load of crap before. Pls OP, go get your tattoo and enjoy it. Sure, u've got a beautiful cleavage to flaunt it."

because black men used to be called spades..

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By *he Original TTMan
over a year ago

Brackley, Northants

The problem here is NOT that black men will necessarily see it as derogatory, but that many white people will decry the underlying sentiment as racist. It is down to personal choice whether to have the tattoo done or not, and as such can only be the decision of the OP, informed or not. (Hopefully now a little more informed of the opinions voiced above, and they are only opinions of the individuals posting them.)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How is the tattoo derogatory to black men - where's that coming from? I've never heard such a load of crap before. Pls OP, go get your tattoo and enjoy it. Sure, u've got a beautiful cleavage to flaunt it.

because black men used to be called spades.."

That's still nonsense - Ofcourse, we (black men) know that we aren't spades, so why get offended....This is 21st century mate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How is the tattoo derogatory to black men - where's that coming from? I've never heard such a load of crap before. Pls OP, go get your tattoo and enjoy it. Sure, u've got a beautiful cleavage to flaunt it.

because black men used to be called spades..

That's still nonsense - Ofcourse, we (black men) know that we aren't spades, so why get offended....This is 21st century mate."

so you also know you arent c**ns, or w**s os N******s and so on, but is it socially acceptable to use these terms?

of course not.

once you find once derogatory terms acceptable, you are accepting where they came from, and saying its ok to be branded as such once more.

you are doing your own kind a disservice, sir.

so tell me, how long before our profile get removed if we state 'no asian men and no spades wanted'?

yeah, not too bloody long i can assure you.

positive discrimination can be as bad as negative discrimination.

you cannot accept a term in a positive way, and yet decry it when ts used abusively.

you either accept it all, or none of it.

and, to an op above, i have an ace of spades tattood on my wrist, because its my favourite song.

unless it means i have an interest in black women, then i see no harm in it.

its a playing card, nothing more derogatory than that

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"How is the tattoo derogatory to black men - where's that coming from? I've never heard such a load of crap before. Pls OP, go get your tattoo and enjoy it. Sure, u've got a beautiful cleavage to flaunt it.

because black men used to be called spades..

That's still nonsense - Ofcourse, we (black men) know that we aren't spades, so why get offended....This is 21st century mate.

so you also know you arent c**ns, or w**s os N******s and so on, but is it socially acceptable to use these terms?

of course not.

once you find once derogatory terms acceptable, you are accepting where they came from, and saying its ok to be branded as such once more.

you are doing your own kind a disservice, sir.

so tell me, how long before our profile get removed if we state 'no asian men and no spades wanted'?

yeah, not too bloody long i can assure you.

positive discrimination can be as bad as negative discrimination.

you cannot accept a term in a positive way, and yet decry it when ts used abusively.

you either accept it all, or none of it.

and, to an op above, i have an ace of spades tattood on my wrist, because its my favourite song.

unless it means i have an interest in black women, then i see no harm in it.

its a playing card, nothing more derogatory than that"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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2 11? who said ace

Seriously? You didn't even manage to read 5 words into the quoted part?

YES....

...just missed the first paragraph thats all.

sry, ....but i could be right"

You couldn't be right ace is never 2 or 11 its 1 or 11

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