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"yes, £25 for bukkake, and another £20 to fuck" For me the male it would take away any enjoyment for that very reason I get off in knowing that who I am playing with is enjoying herself and if I were to pay for it you would never no, I would also worry that the girl in question was being exploited | |||
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"Sounds really horrible to me It's good fun. X " In the context the OP described it doesn't sound that good to me. | |||
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"Sounds really horrible to me It's good fun. X In the context the OP described it doesn't sound that good to me. " I have had plenty of ladies ask me to set up soemthing similar. Maybe he saw it as using her... But she could have been totally loving it... Without being thre girl in person we won't know. I love how guys get a conscience after unloading lol I had that at a club once. After he had Cum over me he said ... Are you okay with this ? Lol x | |||
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"But surely as soon as you start to charge it becomes something totally different " Yeah that's my line of thinking and not in a good way. | |||
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"But surely as soon as you start to charge it becomes something totally different " Don't know if it does. We pay to go to most places.. and the guy didn't have any issue with it before. The only people being exploited 9 times out of 10 are the guys paying fees to attend these events. | |||
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"And plenty of people charge for bukkake or gang bangs... Although I personally wouldn't be going to one. X" Why not? x It's not my thing at all but if some women enjoy it that's cool. If she enjoyed it and it was for money, cool. If she was made to do it then not good, obviously. The OP sounds like she didn't really enjoy it but only she would know if she did or not. If she didn't look happy I wouldn't have joined in. (If I was a man!) | |||
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"And plenty of people charge for bukkake or gang bangs... Although I personally wouldn't be going to one. X Why not? x It's not my thing at all but if some women enjoy it that's cool. If she enjoyed it and it was for money, cool. If she was made to do it then not good, obviously. The OP sounds like she didn't really enjoy it but only she would know if she did or not. If she didn't look happy I wouldn't have joined in. (If I was a man!)" I meant one organised for money lol I wouldn't have any issue with it apart from that lol x Even though I have no problem about money for sex.. just if I'm doing a gangbang I want guys that are enjoying it not tying to get their moneys worth But I am sure she wouldn't have done it If not happy.. z | |||
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"Any 'activity' that you're paying for with a guarantee that you can participate in goes by a name other than swinging in my mind! " Absolutely | |||
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"Sometimes women covered in cum have a look if disgust on their face." I suspect you would too. | |||
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"Any 'activity' that you're paying for with a guarantee that you can participate in goes by a name other than swinging in my mind! " Exactly this! | |||
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"Any 'activity' that you're paying for with a guarantee that you can participate in goes by a name other than swinging in my mind! Exactly this!" Don't get me wrong - if a woman wants to participate in a session like this with full consent given, knowing she is being paid for her 'performance' - that's her choice and all fine with me! What i disagree with is occasions like this being advertised on swingers sites (whether it be at a club or a private event) as its as far from swinging as you can get! And attracts the kind of attendees who then have a similar expectation of some form of 'guatanteed action' when attending normal swinging club events. | |||
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"Any 'activity' that you're paying for with a guarantee that you can participate in goes by a name other than swinging in my mind! Exactly this! Don't get me wrong - if a woman wants to participate in a session like this with full consent given, knowing she is being paid for her 'performance' - that's her choice and all fine with me! What i disagree with is occasions like this being advertised on swingers sites (whether it be at a club or a private event) as its as far from swinging as you can get! And attracts the kind of attendees who then have a similar expectation of some form of 'guatanteed action' when attending normal swinging club events." Okay I took your post another way but I agree if she is consenting then that's fine, get paid for your performance the guys enjoy it, everyone's a winner. I'm personally not liking the scenario the OP has described. You've made a valid point too of expectation level by some at 'normal' swinging club events. | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex." | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex." But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex " In that case why would you pay more than anyone else, if there were not benefits, ie sex? | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex In that case why would you pay more than anyone else, if there were not benefits, ie sex?" I think for positive discrimination to encourage under represented groups to the club ie single fems | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex " Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x." Well good luck with that | |||
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"But surely as soon as you start to charge it becomes something totally different " My thoughts entirely. And just from a personal point of view, it all sounds rather horrific and sordid. | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x." And that's exactly why single guys get s reputation in clubs! | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. And that's exactly why single guys get s reputation in clubs! " prices, single women FREE couples £5 single men £25 if it isn't for sex, what is it for? | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x." Well just because you expect something doesn't mean you're going to get it....!! | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. Well just because you expect something doesn't mean you're going to get it....!!" I know but you would want some guarantee so you dont waste your monies as its resesion x. | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. Well just because you expect something doesn't mean you're going to get it....!!" most obviously do , or they wouldn't be back | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. And that's exactly why single guys get s reputation in clubs! prices, single women FREE couples £5 single men £25 if it isn't for sex, what is it for?" Entry. And you know the reasons - they've been discussed to the nth degree in the forums. Even the single women getting in for free have no 'guarantee' of sex. | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. And that's exactly why single guys get s reputation in clubs! prices, single women FREE couples £5 single men £25 if it isn't for sex, what is it for?" To encourage the correct proportions of people | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. Well just because you expect something doesn't mean you're going to get it....!! I know but you would want some guarantee so you dont waste your monies as its resesion x." Can't believe you just said The forums really are a place for enlightenment. | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. And that's exactly why single guys get s reputation in clubs! prices, single women FREE couples £5 single men £25 if it isn't for sex, what is it for? To encourage the correct proportions of people " LOL its to make a profit, nothing about social engineering. without allowing women in for free or very cheap, there would be no single males. | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. And that's exactly why single guys get s reputation in clubs! prices, single women FREE couples £5 single men £25 if it isn't for sex, what is it for? To encourage the correct proportions of people LOL its to make a profit, nothing about social engineering. without allowing women in for free or very cheap, there would be no single males." We go to clubs when there are no single males and they always seem full | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. Well just because you expect something doesn't mean you're going to get it....!! I know but you would want some guarantee so you dont waste your monies as its resesion x." Whaaaat?! If you want to have guaranteed sex with someone I'm afraid you're looking in the wrong place....!! | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. And that's exactly why single guys get s reputation in clubs! prices, single women FREE couples £5 single men £25 if it isn't for sex, what is it for? To encourage the correct proportions of people LOL its to make a profit, nothing about social engineering. without allowing women in for free or very cheap, there would be no single males. We go to clubs when there are no single males and they always seem full " YAY at last men are using their brain, and meeting someone to become a couple, before coming in, saves a few bob | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. And that's exactly why single guys get s reputation in clubs! prices, single women FREE couples £5 single men £25 if it isn't for sex, what is it for? To encourage the correct proportions of people LOL its to make a profit, nothing about social engineering. without allowing women in for free or very cheap, there would be no single males." What's wrong with making a profit it is a business after all...?! | |||
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"And plenty of people charge for bukkake or gang bangs... Although I personally wouldn't be going to one. X Why not? x It's not my thing at all but if some women enjoy it that's cool. If she enjoyed it and it was for money, cool. If she was made to do it then not good, obviously. The OP sounds like she didn't really enjoy it but only she would know if she did or not. If she didn't look happy I wouldn't have joined in. (If I was a man!) I meant one organised for money lol I wouldn't have any issue with it apart from that lol x Even though I have no problem about money for sex.. just if I'm doing a gangbang I want guys that are enjoying it not tying to get their moneys worth But I am sure she wouldn't have done it If not happy.. z" That makes sense about you wanting them enjoying it not trying to get their money's worth. Was just wondering. | |||
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"Doubt you broke any laws and some enjoy it .. some do it for the money.. I can tell in porn which ones are just doing it for the money and which ones love it. " it will sound naive but how do you recognise that? | |||
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"Doubt you broke any laws and some enjoy it .. some do it for the money.. I can tell in porn which ones are just doing it for the money and which ones love it. it will sound naive but how do you recognise that? " the ones doing it for money, are usually texting, or being careful they don't mess their hair and makeup. | |||
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"yes, £25 for bukkake, and another £20 to fuck For me the male it would take away any enjoyment for that very reason I get off in knowing that who I am playing with is enjoying herself and if I were to pay for it you would never no, I would also worry that the girl in question was being exploited " | |||
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"Doubt you broke any laws and some enjoy it .. some do it for the money.. I can tell in porn which ones are just doing it for the money and which ones love it. it will sound naive but how do you recognise that? " It really should be quite obvious whether a woman is enjoying herself or not. | |||
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"if it was 3guys n a girl it was fun ,as soon as theres payment and large numbers it becomes unpleasant and a money earner,im sure she got a little out of it but never much no prob an escort or girl with pimp,shame ...now if she had been organising and took the money,yep I can see how that would work!!!" Have to agree it sounds quite sad and abit sordid | |||
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"Sounds really horrible to me It's good fun. X In the context the OP described it doesn't sound that good to me. " According to the OPs version of events it doesn't sound nice at all but then i personally don't get why someone would enjoy such a mass of men 'clamouring over to get in' Each to their own i guess but definitely not something i'd want to partake in regardless of who the lady was | |||
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"Last summer I went to a bukkake/gangbang in London. The girl was a small slim pretty young 19 year old student, who sat very quiet and shy until the organiser invited us to start. I was first in and as she sat with her back to the enveloping crowd, I reached round and slipped my middle finger in her. She was soon pulled down on her back as everyone clamoured to get in. In less tha half an hour, she ended up covered in cum and at least half the 15 or so guys who turned up fucked her as well. She was well-used. But she never complained, and seemed happy enough. But I have been thinking about this a lot. 1. Did she really enjoy it, or was she just doing it for the money? 2. Did we break any laws, in doing this with her? " Good god! This sounds like a nightmare | |||
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"Sounds really horrible to me It's good fun. X In the context the OP described it doesn't sound that good to me. According to the OPs version of events it doesn't sound nice at all but then i personally don't get why someone would enjoy such a mass of men 'clamouring over to get in' Each to their own i guess but definitely not something i'd want to partake in regardless of who the lady was " Strikes suKi off the next 2innotts party list | |||
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"Sounds really horrible to me It's good fun. X In the context the OP described it doesn't sound that good to me. According to the OPs version of events it doesn't sound nice at all but then i personally don't get why someone would enjoy such a mass of men 'clamouring over to get in' Each to their own i guess but definitely not something i'd want to partake in regardless of who the lady was Strikes suKi off the next 2innotts party list " Im being struck off for wanting to take my time rather than clamour over you | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. Well good luck with that " you clearly haven't been in many then... | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. Well good luck with that you clearly haven't been in any then..." I corrected your typo! | |||
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"Doubt you broke any laws and some enjoy it .. some do it for the money.. I can tell in porn which ones are just doing it for the money and which ones love it. it will sound naive but how do you recognise that? It really should be quite obvious whether a woman is enjoying herself or not." Zhen it's about porn, I never know... (well, sometimes you can see the difference, but a lot of cum on a face is not helping to show emotions ) | |||
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"Any 'activity' that you're paying for with a guarantee that you can participate in goes by a name other than swinging in my mind! " Agreed, it's not swinging. Is hard to get so many men together in a room for free, maybe I should start charging! | |||
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"I am planning on doing a gangbang on Saturday with another lady friend of ours, they obviously won't be charged to attend, and there will be 10 men, it's my first one but I am very excited about it and I find it horny! But unlike paid gangbangs where anyone that's got money can come mine will be selected males that I find attractive therefore will enjoy it I hope I can't say I wouldn't enjoy random men but I don't find the idea horny of old hairy sweaty men fuxking me instead of fit selected men x" I have to say that I am quite jealous of these few lucy ones | |||
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"Last summer I went to a bukkake/gangbang in London. The girl was a small slim pretty young 19 year old student, who sat very quiet and shy until the organiser invited us to start. I was first in and as she sat with her back to the enveloping crowd, I reached round and slipped my middle finger in her. She was soon pulled down on her back as everyone clamoured to get in. In less tha half an hour, she ended up covered in cum and at least half the 15 or so guys who turned up fucked her as well. She was well-used. But she never complained, and seemed happy enough. But I have been thinking about this a lot. 1. Did she really enjoy it, or was she just doing it for the money? 2. Did we break any laws, in doing this with her? " sounds like that the girl was working for someone and probably got a roof over her head for the night. £20 to fuck the girl, is it me or do they not call that prostitution? | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. Well good luck with that " | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. And that's exactly why single guys get s reputation in clubs! " So true! But that sort of attitude gets them zero action, running from playroom to playroom hoping for a glimpse of the action and going home wanking into a kleenex at the end of the night. The situation described by the OP sounds very dodgy | |||
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"I am planning on doing a gangbang on Saturday with another lady friend of ours, they obviously won't be charged to attend, and there will be 10 men, it's my first one but I am very excited about it and I find it horny! But unlike paid gangbangs where anyone that's got money can come mine will be selected males that I find attractive therefore will enjoy it I hope I can't say I wouldn't enjoy random men but I don't find the idea horny of old hairy sweaty men fuxking me instead of fit selected men x" Personally whilst it doesn't appeal to me, this sounds definitely the right idea, if I had to put up with the random males, I would want paying! | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex." and if you pay you are guaranteed sex? I think not! | |||
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"yes, £25 for bukkake, and another £20 to fuck" That looks like paying for sexual services in a group situation and would appear to be prostitution and illegal. If she came from Fab I think you should tell admin. | |||
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"yes, £25 for bukkake, and another £20 to fuck That looks like paying for sexual services in a group situation and would appear to be prostitution and illegal. If she came from Fab I think you should tell admin." Except that you're completely wrong and prostitution isn't illegal in the uk | |||
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"yes, £25 for bukkake, and another £20 to fuck That looks like paying for sexual services in a group situation and would appear to be prostitution and illegal. If she came from Fab I think you should tell admin. Except that you're completely wrong and prostitution isn't illegal in the uk" Between a single make and female no. In a group, where finance is involved, it is a brothel and illegal. | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x. Well good luck with that " Such a shame that some have this attitude and exactly why many couples are put off nights with single guys. The scenario does sound like it reeks of sweat, fear and exploitation but we cannot think of a more depressing scenario! | |||
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"yes, £25 for bukkake, and another £20 to fuck That looks like paying for sexual services in a group situation and would appear to be prostitution and illegal. If she came from Fab I think you should tell admin. Except that you're completely wrong and prostitution isn't illegal in the uk Between a single make and female no. In a group, where finance is involved, it is a brothel and illegal." Only if more than one girl is working, also if its a film shoot its legal to cover costs for the model,venue, refreshments etc. We always advice girls to take a video camera even if they don't use it because its then a film shoot & perfectly legal. | |||
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"yes, £25 for bukkake, and another £20 to fuck That looks like paying for sexual services in a group situation and would appear to be prostitution and illegal. If she came from Fab I think you should tell admin. Except that you're completely wrong and prostitution isn't illegal in the uk" Prostitution is legal in the UK & most girls pay tax, stamp etc. 2 or more girls working together as prostitutes is then classed as a brothel & is illegal, quite a few councils now allow 2 girls as long as the girls are independent & not pawns for criminal gangs. | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex." I pay to go to some clubs and I see it as paying to use their facilities, not a guarantee for sex. Just totally wrong. You should NEVER expect sex from a club just because you've paid to get in. Urgh. | |||
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"Any 'activity' that you're paying for with a guarantee that you can participate in goes by a name other than swinging in my mind! Exactly this! Don't get me wrong - if a woman wants to participate in a session like this with full consent given, knowing she is being paid for her 'performance' - that's her choice and all fine with me! What i disagree with is occasions like this being advertised on swingers sites (whether it be at a club or a private event) as its as far from swinging as you can get! And attracts the kind of attendees who then have a similar expectation of some form of 'guatanteed action' when attending normal swinging club events." We agree with this, we hold many bukkake/gang bangs events but wouldn't dream of advertising them on a swinging site...thats what Twitters for lol! | |||
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"SAme as going into a swingers club, as if you dont pay you dont get any sex. But when you pay to go to a swingers club your paying to get in not for sex Yes but I wouldnt pay just to get in, I would expect to get some sex x." Go and pay a few hundred quid and get a prostitute, that's the only way you're gonna get it if you expect women clamouring all over you with that sort of attitude | |||
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"Last summer I went to a bukkake/gangbang in London. The girl was a small slim pretty young 19 year old student, who sat very quiet and shy until the organiser invited us to start. I was first in and as she sat with her back to the enveloping crowd, I reached round and slipped my middle finger in her. She was soon pulled down on her back as everyone clamoured to get in. In less tha half an hour, she ended up covered in cum and at least half the 15 or so guys who turned up fucked her as well. She was well-used. But she never complained, and seemed happy enough. But I have been thinking about this a lot. 1. Did she really enjoy it, or was she just doing it for the money? 2. Did we break any laws, in doing this with her? sounds like that the girl was working for someone and probably got a roof over her head for the night. £20 to fuck the girl, is it me or do they not call that prostitution? " much cheaper than getting married, per shag | |||
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"I texted for information about a gangbang today and got a text back saying it would be £30 and guaranteed action with the lady. I immediately had a horrible vision of a roomful of guys fighting to get their guaranteed money's worth like the problem single guys at clubs x 10. Nightmare. " no clamouring, usually very civilised | |||
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"yes, £25 for bukkake, and another £20 to fuck That looks like paying for sexual services in a group situation and would appear to be prostitution and illegal. If she came from Fab I think you should tell admin. Except that you're completely wrong and prostitution isn't illegal in the uk Prostitution is legal in the UK & most girls pay tax, stamp etc. 2 or more girls working together as prostitutes is then classed as a brothel & is illegal, quite a few councils now allow 2 girls as long as the girls are independent & not pawns for criminal gangs. " depends how you quantify most! | |||
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"Last summer I went to a bukkake/gangbang in London. The girl was a small slim pretty young 19 year old student, who sat very quiet and shy until the organiser invited us to start. I was first in and as she sat with her back to the enveloping crowd, I reached round and slipped my middle finger in her. She was soon pulled down on her back as everyone clamoured to get in. In less tha half an hour, she ended up covered in cum and at least half the 15 or so guys who turned up fucked her as well. She was well-used. But she never complained, and seemed happy enough. But I have been thinking about this a lot. 1. Did she really enjoy it, or was she just doing it for the money? 2. Did we break any laws, in doing this with her? " A couple of things bother me here.. 1. You asked was she enjoying it yet as you were 'first in' ad you put it didn't even look at her.. you just reached round. Obviously not that bothered if she was or wasn't. 2. You say she was pulled down onto her back.. so she never willingly laid down? 3. Everyone clamoured to get in? No respect was shown to her. 4. The total disrespect you have displayed by the message when speaking about the girl. 5. Did she enjoy it or for the money? Doesn't seem as if you were to bothered to care. 6. Was it illegal? If you were that bothered you wouldn't have participated. But that's my opinion. Molly x | |||
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"Any 'activity' that you're paying for with a guarantee that you can participate in goes by a name other than swinging in my mind! " I agree. | |||
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"I was just thinking the very same thing ~ was she being exploited?! I know 18 is an adult but in my eyes she's pretty young to be doing what you have just described." What age would you say is the 'right' age? | |||
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"I was just thinking the very same thing ~ was she being exploited?! I know 18 is an adult but in my eyes she's pretty young to be doing what you have just described. What age would you say is the 'right' age?" age is just a number, some 18 yr olds are very mature, some are not. it would be too much for me and in late 50's | |||
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"I was just thinking the very same thing ~ was she being exploited?! I know 18 is an adult but in my eyes she's pretty young to be doing what you have just described. What age would you say is the 'right' age?" I think that was my original quote re age. If so I was referring to the fact that even though she is considered an adult it is still a very young age I think to be in that kind of situation. and no age is the 'right' age if you are either ~ A. being exploited or B. made to do something you're not comfortable with and/or against your free will. | |||
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"Any 'activity' that you're paying for with a guarantee that you can participate in goes by a name other than swinging in my mind! Absolutely " Totally agree, feel very uncomfortable about this post. | |||
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